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#129734 - 11/25/05 12:09 PM
A truly corrupt industry
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Hello, I am a political activist and I want to warn you about the destructive effect your "industry" is having on people.
The fact that you call it an "industry" is implying that you see it as perfectly acceptable to exploit young women in order to make money. Often the girls that enter the porn industry are vulnerable, been abused as kids, or have been forced into it due to lack of money.
There is also the issue of objectifying women. The girls that engage in your exploitive activities are human beings just like you, and have feelings that are being degraded by the unnatural acts you get them to partake in. In the end, they turn to drugs due to severe emotional problems, and as they get older they become less attractive, so they are booted out the industry (no longer any economical use). What are their options then? Probably homelessness.
There you go, this industry messes up lives, and as well you know it, but will not admit it!
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#129735 - 11/25/05 12:15 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/20/05
Posts: 9195
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Dear SocialistFarce: Believe me, if I were alive today, comrade, I'd be pounding my pud to Gia Jordan just like everyone else. Everyone has to make sacrifices for the good of the state. Sincerely, Lenin's Ghost 
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#129736 - 11/25/05 12:48 PM
Re: A truly corrupt industry
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 04/01/05
Posts: 142
Loc: N. California
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Hello, I am a political activist and I want to warn you about the destructive effect your "industry" is having on people.
The fact that you call it an "industry" is implying that you see it as perfectly acceptable to exploit young women in order to make money. Often the girls that enter the porn industry are vulnerable, been abused as kids, or have been forced into it due to lack of money.
There is also the issue of objectifying women. The girls that engage in your exploitive activities are human beings just like you, and have feelings that are being degraded by the unnatural acts you get them to partake in. In the end, they turn to drugs due to severe emotional problems, and as they get older they become less attractive, so they are booted out the industry (no longer any economical use). What are their options then? Probably homelessness.
There you go, this industry messes up lives, and as well you know it, but will not admit it!
And your point is....?
I am fascinated by the "industry" for these very same reasons and like a driver on the 405, looking away from the wreck is just not possible.
Also, the acts we "get them to do" is a misstatement; these girls do what they want, acts that are explained well beforehand for a prearranged amount of money, with known people. We don't "get them to do" anything more than any employer "gets" his/her employees to do things that economically benefit the employer.
Also, saying that these girls "end up" turning to drugs is just bullshit; they often come in as dope fiends and just leave with bigger habits. In fact, many girls come to the industry to support their habits. But what is different than the same girl working for coke money at Gelson's or a bank? Maybe the only difference is your fucked up judgmental attitude about sex.
You claim to work for people's rights, free speach and individual empowerment, but your innability to see sex as an act of free speech just reveals what a narrow minded thinker you really are. Remember, just because you don't like porn doesn't mean that it is not someone else's right to produce, participate or view porn.
I don't like most television, I think it does all the same things you just said porn does, but I don't go around saying it should not be made or that those who make it are some how evil.
Do some real thinking and maybe you could put your energies towards a cause that might better serve the world.
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#129737 - 11/25/05 01:14 PM
Re: A truly corrupt industry
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Registered: 11/25/05
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they often come in as dope fiends and just leave with bigger habits.
and why do you think that is?
a) the fact they already have drug problems means they are vulnerable and encouraging them into an emotionally abusive industry is unethical.
b) The fact that they leave with BIGGER problems than when they arrived indicates that working in this field IS affecting their emotional state in a negative way.
That asside, I don't see any Trade Unions! Where are the Trade Unions? The very least employees expect is a trade union to which they can go to if they have disputes with their employers.
What about retirement pensions and health insurance?
No, porn is an unregulated, abusive industry that the government is too afraid to investigate. There are no safeguards for the people involved and the corporations controlling it are making massive profits.
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#129738 - 11/25/05 01:40 PM
Re: A truly corrupt industry
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No, porn is an unregulated, abusive industry that the government is too afraid to investigate. There are no safeguards for the people involved and the corporations controlling it are making massive profits.
Ohhh yeah...."the government" should regulate porn.....maybe the porn industry can get some lobbyists on Capitol Hill and instantly make porn more of a mainstream "square" product....like liquor...cigarettes....etc. The right wing Christian puritanical belief system in America would never let it happen.
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#129742 - 11/25/05 02:35 PM
Re: A truly corrupt industry
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 04/01/05
Posts: 142
Loc: N. California
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they often come in as dope fiends and just leave with bigger habits.
and why do you think that is?
a) the fact they already have drug problems means they are vulnerable and encouraging them into an emotionally abusive industry is unethical.
b) The fact that they leave with BIGGER problems than when they arrived indicates that working in this field IS affecting their emotional state in a negative way.
That asside, I don't see any Trade Unions! Where are the Trade Unions? The very least employees expect is a trade union to which they can go to if they have disputes with their employers.
What about retirement pensions and health insurance?
No, porn is an unregulated, abusive industry that the government is too afraid to investigate. There are no safeguards for the people involved and the corporations controlling it are making massive profits.
You should take the advice of Gen and do some thinking and research into your bullshit, liberal, reactionary views. And bringing in new arguments (unions) instead of responding to the original thread just shows how weak your argument is.
As for drug problems getting worse, well that's the path of drug abuse; it either stops or gets worse. So, that's a bullshit response.
If these girls are so "vulnerable", do you think it would be better for them to engage in some other form of legal exploitation? Why is stripping, waiting tables, cleaning hotel rooms or any other "unskilled" job inherently better? If your argument is that these jobs don't on their own cause more emotional harm, you're right. But, as I said before, a huge part of my fascination with this industry is the "train wreck" or "rubber-necker" factor. When it comes down to it, I really like to watch young, sweet faced girls take loads in their mouths, huge dicks up their tiny ass pipes and basically be degraded (but degraded willingly!) for my stroking pleasure. And my enjoyment of this spans even to this forum and a fairly in-depth knowledge of the porn industry.
You should find someone who needs your help instead of pushing your stereotyped, small-minded and holier-than-thou efforts onto a portion of the population that has not asked for or need your help.
Go find someone who gives a shit, you pious asshole!!!! 
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#129743 - 11/25/05 03:04 PM
Re: A truly corrupt industry
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Registered: 11/25/05
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This is the same guy who used the DST1975 alias isn't it?
The comrade does not post under false names.
So you actually admit that you gain pleasure from watching other people suffer in some way or other!! That, in a civilised society, is called sadism, and is not acceptable.
From what I've seen of pornographic images, it is not just a simple case of nudity, which is not particularly offensive, since nudity is the body's natural state. It is a whole different sphere of graphical images involving some sort of degrading treatment being done to women. I am fully aware of the fact that these women entered the business voluntarily, but that does not excuse the fact that work can cause severe emotional damage. It is a bit like a worker who is employed in a chemicals factory, and by the age of 40, they are so messed up by these toxic chemicals that they cannot work. The welfare system in your country is so crap that they would probably end up on the street. The same goes for the women and girls in your industry.
Lets talk about the welfare system a little more shall we? A decent Welfare State in your country could put you out of business, since destitute women would no longer have to sell their bodies to survive. Ah, the joys of a Socialist society....
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#129744 - 11/25/05 03:10 PM
Re: A truly corrupt industry
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 09/22/05
Posts: 932
Loc: tricking blind lesbians in a f...
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youve obviously never met anyone in porn, or been on a set, perhaps Jeff will book you for American Bukkake, that way you can get a true insiders look, you may have a different opinion afterward.
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#129746 - 11/25/05 05:25 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 09/22/05
Posts: 932
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The welfare system in your country is so crap that they would probably end up on the street. The same goes for the women and girls in your industry.
Lets talk about the welfare system a little more shall we? A decent Welfare State in your country could put you out of business, since destitute women would no longer have to sell their bodies to survive. Ah, the joys of a Socialist society....
omg its Brandon Irons
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#129747 - 11/25/05 09:26 PM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 11/15/05
Posts: 40
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Gotta laugh 
"I am a political activist" ... roughly translated that means you are a bit of an idiot and any advice you give should probably be ignored.
"Often the girls that enter the porn industry are vulnerable, been abused as kids, or have been forced into it due to lack of money" ..... er, just like in any other walk of life
"unnatural acts" .... that's why people like it
"In the end, they turn to drugs due to severe emotional problems, and as they get older they become less attractive, so they are booted out the industry (no longer any economical use)" ... maybe some truth there, but we all get fucked over in life, one way or another - it's no better or worse just because you're a good looking young girl. I was kicked out of an IT job because some spotty little git will do it for half my salary, where's the difference?
The real thing that fucks up a country, is that PC assholes, with views like yours get into power in the first place. Can you not go and tackle global poverty or something worthwhile? .... I suppose a lot of you wacko moralists just love to watch porn so you can be outraged by the content/morality, so in a way the 'industry' does you a favour.
I don't like the word industry either ... because by my definition you need to produce actual goods for that to be true, You can call it a business, but not an industry. Ship building is an industry ... making movies isn't. And anyone who refers to a workshop, when they're not involved in light industry ... well they're just twats 
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#129748 - 11/25/05 09:35 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 09/13/05
Posts: 1594
Loc: The "Phlogbox", apparently.
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Here we go! A guy with "socialism" in his name is lecturing us perverts about "exploitation". Here's a fun thought: When "evil" corporations want a massive pool of exploitable labor, where do they go? Answer: To countries that heavily subscribe to Marx's economic philosophies - either socialism or communism - such as China, North Korea, Cuba, etc. The few countries that are socialist but not total economic basketcases, such as Sweden, are also being swamped with third world invaders looking to leech of the "free" money and healthcare provided by the ever decreasing body of workers. (Why don't you people whine about the exploitation of taxpayers having to subsidize freeloaders?) Sweden may be a livable place for now, but let's see how they do in twenty years, when they become an Islamic cesspool, like Malmo. As a proud capitalist, let me give your worthless socialist ass a hearty "Fuck you": 
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#129749 - 11/25/05 10:27 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 5869
Loc: Instead of looking at the girl...
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Hello, I am a political activist and I want to warn you about the destructive effect your "industry" is having on people.
The fact that you call it an "industry" is implying that you see it as perfectly acceptable to exploit young women in order to make money. Often the girls that enter the porn industry are vulnerable, been abused as kids, or have been forced into it due to lack of money.
There is also the issue of objectifying women. The girls that engage in your exploitive activities are human beings just like you, and have feelings that are being degraded by the unnatural acts you get them to partake in. In the end, they turn to drugs due to severe emotional problems, and as they get older they become less attractive, so they are booted out the industry (no longer any economical use). What are their options then? Probably homelessness.
There you go, this industry messes up lives, and as well you know it, but will not admit it!
Socialism is corrupt as well. So fucking what? If you´re so disgusted about that, go drive an arabombmobile into the next porn set.
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#129750 - 11/25/05 10:48 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/26/03
Posts: 8160
Loc: Roma, Repubblica Italiana
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Hello, I am a political activist and I want to warn you about the destructive effect your "industry" is having on people.
The fact that you call it an "industry" is implying that you see it as perfectly acceptable to exploit young women in order to make money. Often the girls that enter the porn industry are vulnerable, been abused as kids, or have been forced into it due to lack of money.
There is also the issue of objectifying women. The girls that engage in your exploitive activities are human beings just like you, and have feelings that are being degraded by the unnatural acts you get them to partake in. In the end, they turn to drugs due to severe emotional problems, and as they get older they become less attractive, so they are booted out the industry (no longer any economical use). What are their options then? Probably homelessness.
There you go, this industry messes up lives, and as well you know it, but will not admit it!
Hey socialistforce how's it goin' man? 
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#129753 - 11/26/05 07:11 AM
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Registered: 11/25/05
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My dear Socialist,
I was never abused as a child or any other time and I have never taken drugs save for what a Doctor would give me after surgery. I have insurance and retirement investments.
What to do after I'm too old to perform. That time hasn't come yet for me but I didn't wait around to find out. I am the CEO for a media company, the Prsident of my own video company as well as my own Internet company.
Then you are one of the masters of the industry rather than one of the slaves.
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#129754 - 11/26/05 07:15 AM
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Socialism is corrupt as well. So fucking what? If you´re so disgusted about that, go drive an arabombmobile into the next porn set.
That pretty much sums up what you guys are about. Most of the people who watch porn are just low lifes who spend all their time thinking about being violent towards women and making racist comments about more intelligent members of the community.
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#129755 - 11/26/05 07:27 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
Posts: 6005
Loc: travieso capital management an...
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i call fake account, this thread is just crawling with fake accounts.
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#129757 - 11/26/05 08:33 AM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 11/15/05
Posts: 40
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My dear Socialist,
I was never abused as a child or any other time and I have never taken drugs save for what a Doctor would give me after surgery. I have insurance and retirement investments.
What to do after I'm too old to perform. That time hasn't come yet for me but I didn't wait around to find out. I am the CEO for a media company, the Prsident of my own video company as well as my own Internet company.
Then you are one of the masters of the industry rather than one of the slaves.
Well if Victoria is what a master looks like, I think I'd be ready to fall in line ... behind a whole load (no pun) of others 
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#129760 - 11/26/05 12:26 PM
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Porn Icon
Registered: 02/04/05
Posts: 3499
Loc: The Dirty: 480
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i call fake account, this thread is just crawling with fake accounts.
I agree, and I really don't have the energy to try and figure out who is who.
Fakers,
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#129761 - 11/26/05 09:48 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 5869
Loc: Instead of looking at the girl...
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Socialism is corrupt as well. So fucking what? If you´re so disgusted about that, go drive an arabombmobile into the next porn set.
That pretty much sums up what you guys are about. Most of the people who watch porn are just low lifes who spend all their time thinking about being violent towards women and making racist comments about more intelligent members of the community.
Ah, shut the fuck up, Monkey. This joke already got old.
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#129762 - 11/29/05 09:01 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/14/03
Posts: 7408
Loc: JM Productions
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Hello, I am a political activist and I want to warn you about the destructive effect your "industry" is having on people.
The fact that you call it an "industry" is implying that you see it as perfectly acceptable to exploit young women in order to make money. Often the girls that enter the porn industry are vulnerable, been abused as kids, or have been forced into it due to lack of money.
There is also the issue of objectifying women. The girls that engage in your exploitive activities are human beings just like you, and have feelings that are being degraded by the unnatural acts you get them to partake in. In the end, they turn to drugs due to severe emotional problems, and as they get older they become less attractive, so they are booted out the industry (no longer any economical use). What are their options then? Probably homelessness.
There you go, this industry messes up lives, and as well you know it, but will not admit it!
Fake acct or not,this post has stroke value. 
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