Originally Posted By: GR8Y8S
Originally Posted By: CxGxPx
Chicago has high crime for reasons completely unrelated to the mere fact that guns exist.This is essentially an argument you make that is not related to the original topic that appears to be connected to it but is not. This is a tactic most right wingers use. Subtly change the subject. I would say that if the gun laws there were more lax gun violence would be even worse. Your argument is about the same as saying because there are so many murders why bother making murder illegal.

You say none of the 500 murders in Chicago involved bump stocks. Something I am
Supposed to accept on face value. I will tell you the people who died at that country music show sure as fuck wished that dude had not been using one.


So once again you didn't answer the question or address the topic. You continue to think a law will solve something, yet when presented with facts that a city like Chicago has lots of gun laws, and lots of gun violence, you attempt to move the goal posts.

If you don't want to address why it is Chicago has a high gun murder rate, then forget about it and lets move on. If you were given control of the US, and could implement any law you wanted to stop gun violence, what would it be

Honestly, I don't think the causality rate in Vegas changes without a bumpstock. It throws accuracy out the window (no pun intended) and I think someone with a decent amount of skill can have inflicted the same amount of carnage without it.


okay. You actually think the vegas gun man would have been likely to kill 60 people if he was not firing full auto? or pseudo full auto because ammosexuals like yourself latch on to pointless details that no one gives a shit about besides yourselves. bump firing can be very inaccurate but it can also be pretty much as accurate as a regular full auto weapon. We are talking about shoulder aiming here not from the hip bump firing. After all the entire point of rapid fire is that you lose accuracy in the first place from the jarring of the repeated recoil but you gain kill probability from the the wall of lead being sent towards your victims. Other wise why the fuck would the military use full auto and not just have everyone take popshots with semi auto?

Chicago and detroit are very dangerous places because they are poor neighborhoods and have been declining for the last 50 years are over run with black market drugs. I think one of the biggest ways to end rampant violence in poor neighborhoods would be to end drug prohibition so if you are a libertarian I guess that is one thing we could agree on. Although in certain instances drugs can become so rampant they can rot a society from the inside out like opium did to china but in general illegality makes things much much worse

but by using your argument you want to take an area with violent thugs and make it even EASIER for them to get a hold of weapons and you think EVEN MORE POWERFUL weapons should be available. What honest reason do you think you need a full automatic machine gun with a hundred round drum? Do you plan to fight off 20 home invaders at once? Do you really think that is going to happen anytime soon? Do you really think you are going to be invaded by jack booted thugs any second?

Why not have a Vulcan mini gun mounted on your roof?
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