Originally Posted By: Hiprogloho
You obviously live by the guilt credo that sex is taboo, therefore adult art can't possibly evolve beyond perceived obscenity. I could care less about which hot mess pro cum eater got a walk on bit part and no respect. Cameos in throwaway B list pop culture are worthless and beside the point anyhow. You're misconstruing the meaning of the word crossover to define it only as selling porn personalities to a mainstream America afraid of its own sexual shadow.

On the contrary. In porn there are non sex male talent who can be sold as entertainers to porn fans. Tom Byron has music chops. Ron Jeremy is a comic. Rob Black is a modern Lenny Bruce stuck in porn-is-dead-mode running out of fresh material. You can reinvent porn in literature, song and dance or a vaudeville of sorts. There is more to sexual talent than sex organs and the threat of disease. We simply must be the change you deny as valuable or worthy.

And it need not only be starlet oriented. Yet if you can't see beyond the stigma attached to us by the bluenoses, then you're playing into the slave master game of the prude police who label and marginalize us to oblivion. Porn doesn't need establishment approval or a G-rated audience to reinvent itself. We must see beyond what naysayers doom and gloom us to be to go out on our own and put on a show and be what we want to be for self esteem.

But you don't want to see porn grow beyond STD ins and outs because then that would threaten the corrupt status quo that you were sent here to defend. Your negativity screams agenda. You don't want change. What you want is a continuation of what has destroyed the biz so that the few can live off the many. Critics who can't see beyond lowlife image simply perpetuate a deadbeat lack of creative vision. But self perception can be successful reality.

Rob Black is a lonely one man show. Gene Ross was right when he said he needs a supporting cast. Porn needs a supporting makeover. Big time. But it won't happen with the endless court drama debate of what did us in and why we can't change. There is major talent in this industry that's wasted. Do nothings are stuck in the web matrix of communication conflict sold as digital showbiz. Meanwhile, porn is still dead and no one is changing X to save it or stop it.

Originally Posted By: PhaseD
You obviously don't think things through that often and like to put stuff you take in into your pre-established view of how it all works.
Conspiracy guys do that, too. Do you think they're being taken seriously?
Sex being taboo and me living by that "guilt credo?" Believe that, if you want.
"Adult art" is hard to find in porn, mostly due to technical inadequacies clearly pointing out how far it's away from respectability and thus undermining anything else than being wankware, made by talentless people out of the reach of actual criticism.
Very few exceptions aside, that's what porn is as a product.
"Mainstream America afraid of its own shadow" consumes porn with a healthy appetite.

Therefore, trying to sell some other, non-pornish entertainment by porners to a porn audience used to other players who don't have anything to do with porn and allowed to enter spheres of the casual entertainment industry where background matters is naive, especially with the established competition in that area.
Doing things all on your own in a move of reinvention caused by a lack of financial motivation in the usual porn world would be very tough in this context, tough to a degree where I think it won't ever happen.
If you want change, then ask yourself where this change is going to take place, how it will look like and who in a position of authority might have things to say about it, how they look at porn and entertainment.
Porn is pretty diseased, no matter what the FSC lets someone scribble up in a press release. Sex isn't really safe, in porn, out of it and everywhere else.

Whether it's pornlets hooking or the acting part of the talent pool working in a non-porn environment, their past or present association with porn will put people off who like G-rated audiences because they're a massive potential market - people with reach, established business relationships and power.
Keeping it adults only will let the family entertainment opportunity completely vanish while stigmatising the players at the same time.
Me pointing it out isn't equal to me making it so.

I have no problem with porners doing other things than porn at all, just don't see an actual opportunity for respected, legitimate occupation which would provide an income high enough to not be necessitated to work in and around porn, which would be an actual crossing over.
Me holding up the corrupt status quo and being sent here to defend it, me not wanting change, me wanting a continuation of exploitative business practices dominated by an elite? Are you high?
My agenda here is critical realism, not a think-it-and-it'll-happen approach you label "creative vision."

Yes, porn could use some change.
Setting aside the way it generally is perceived in society, declaring that perception unimportant and then demanding it'll all be good in time if only the "naysayers" don't cut in is just irrational.

Where's this wasted talent in porn waiting to be set free, flourish and enrich the lives of potential consumers of entertainment?

Who sells "the web matrix of communication conflict" "as digital showbiz?"

Who sent me here to keep porn in its place so that it won't change and rise up?