I had an argument on another internet forum about a week ago who thought that Tim Raines should be a lock. I pointed out to him that it pretty much took him over 20 years to accomplish what Ichiro did in ten (minus the MVP, Rookie of the Year, and 10 Gold Gloves that Raines never did accomplish). Guy's only counter argument is career OBP. That's the drawback of all these Sabermetric geeks these days. All they look at are the numbers. They never actually watch the players play.

Raines was a very good but not great player who seemed to spend half his career on the disabled list. Ichiro should be a first ballot HoFer who put up ridiculous numbers for a decade considering he was 27 when he first played in the majors. Raines was basically a more often injured Willie Wilson with more power.