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Anonymity is no reason not to publish things like anonymous surveys.

You notice AA doesn't bother trying to prove the program works. If it's such a great program why aren't they trumpeting how successful it is?

I realize you have bought into the dogma but AA doesn't stand up to any skepticism.

"This program works"

"show me please how well it works?"

"Nevermind that. It just works."

There are a ton of things in the world that operate with that mindset. They are called scams/snake oil/religion.

"Buy my moose diarrhea, it is an amazing hair tonic!"

"Looks like diarrhea to me."

"No, really, trust me, it works"

"How does it work? Why does it work?"

"It just works. End of story."

Blind faith isn't proof that anything works.



The only people who believe AA "works" are, coincidentally enough, the same people who say things like "success rates are hard to define or measure".

I think I posted once before that there are many studies that have shown that AA is neither the only structured program to help alcoholics nor is it anywhere close to being one of the more successful ones. It usually ranks right up there with doing nothing at all, and outside of the U.S. it is almost universally derided as an ineffectual cult rather than a treatment strategy.

I know I am just repeating what Conq has already alluded to, but the point I'm trying to make is that it is more than just about "dubious" claims or first hand reports from people or television shows debunking the myth, it is a well studied, investigated and documented fact.
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