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Thus, too many interracial fans succeed in scaring off both the talent and the producers, yet they still can't grasp why said talent and producers aren't falling over themselves to comply with the IR fan's every whim. You couldn't make it up, but there it is...




I dunno Dan. You seem to be really tied up in this supposed link between IR porn and piracy. But the truth is, I don't think the incidence of IR piracy is any higher than other types of porn.



Firstly, thanks for proving my point and just choosing to bury your head in the sand and ignore the issue.

Might I suggest you go to the Mr. Marcus forum an check out the B5fan movie thread? It's got 3.3 million views thus far, and well on the way to 3.4. If we equate each page view to just $1 (when in reality, a pirated scene can actually negate a $30 website membership or a DVD purchase if the viewer just wants the one scene/girl), then it has bilked the IR genre out of $3.3 million. Hell, let's be charitable and equate it to just 50 cents...that's still over $1.6 million...and that's just one thread on one forum. Now, let's say that the real figure is actually more like somewhere in the region of $10...that would be a cool $33 million in lost Web and DVD revenue.

Add that to all the other piracy threads on that forum and the other one, and I wouldn't even like to begin to guess at the amount they have cost the IR segment of the industry. But, like you say, these people aren't to blame...it's everybody's fault but their own.

What you fail to grasp is that these are niche-dedicated forums with niche-dedicated audiences. If you go to a piracy forum that embraces the full gamut of pornography, then chances are an interracial movie will pop up 1/50 posts, or 1/100, because there are so many other genres of material. On a niche-dedicated forum, the ratio is 1/1, therefore the piracy is a lot more focused because there's so much more opportunity for the pirate to get exactly (or pretty damn close to) what they're looking for. It's the 'Perfect Storm' of piracy, if you will.

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And I honestly don't beleive its what is keeping certain producers from pushing IR-product. No, in my mind I think that is a case of them feeling that offering such products would erode a certain "image" they were trying to protect. Safe, clean, lily-white, etc. In those cases they may spin off other subsidiaries to handle their IR (or just plain black-on-black) "dirty work".



Well, you could honestly not believe in the laws of gravity, but if you take a jump off a skyscraper, you're going to fall and go splat on the sidewalk. What you believe and what you think don't necessarily tally up to what is.

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...and finally lets be honest: there are plenty of white customers who buy IR videos by the truckload. This is the main demographic they are going after.




Where did I state otherwise or imply that it was a black-only problem? Please re-read my post for what it is and stop trying to turn everything into an issue of race (yet again).

I know for a fact that plenty of the IR fanbase is white, but it makes me chuckle to hear black IR fans bitching about cuckold movies, 'My Daughter's Fucking A Nigga' or Spring Thomas because 'It's what whitey wants to see/hear'...again, it comes down to ignoring the Golden Rule: He who makes the gold, makes the rules. Perhaps IR porn is geared towards what whitey wants because whitey is prepared to pay for it? Why is whitey the 'main demographic they are going after'? See above.

The sad fact is that when it comes time for the next IR-holdout girl to do her first IR scene on camera (like, Amy Ried, for example), it will probably be for a white producer like Jules Jordan, not a black one like WCP or Mercenary. Why is this? See above.

I think it's high time for a lot of the IR fanbois to take a good long hard look in the mirror and realise that 'The Man' isn't keeping you down, but you are.

But seeing as that doesn't involve blaming everybody else, I can't see that happening. Tritone, why not go over to the Mr. Marcus forum and make an impassioned plea for them to stop the piracy, and explain to them the way of the world wherein if they stop pirating product and start paying for it, black producers will have more money, more clout, and you'll start seeing the kind of IR porn they want to see with the holdout performers they want to see in it, and less of the kind of IR that whitey wants to see.

Be sure to come back and let us know how you got on.