i ask this to the people who tend to enjoy the more extreme pornography. the ones who, like myself, enjoy the degradation, humiliation and abuse aspects of certain pornography. do you need the sex at all? or is it these other things that really get you off? if there actually were none of the old in/out, would you still buy max hardcore? meatholes? would you still classify it as pornography? would it, in fact, be better, without all of that stupid intercourse that the girl might concievably be enjoying? isn't it just a break from the good stuff, maybe? slap the bitch and pee on her. she don't like it. whoop that trick. what do you think?