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#76768 - 12/30/04 01:38 PM
Will Computer 3D render porn stars obsolete?
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 10/09/04
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Erotic comic artists have for a long time been crossing boundaries that real porn could never do. Rape, incest, pedophilia, bestiality and even necrophila abounds. It's amazing what you can get away with depicting under the auspices of art.
3D rendering technology has been coming on in leaps and bounds over the past few years. I recently had my eyes opened to the fact that artists are starting to use this medium for erotic depictions, and they're going just as far with the storylines as comic artists do. Here's an example:
Ok, so it's not quite there yet, but it's surely only a matter of time before the technology develops to the stage where images can be produced that are impossible to distinguish from real life. At the rate things are going, this could be within five years. The biggest problem in depicting human subjects in 3D has been skin looking wooden. This problem has already been solved with translucent skin modelling (not used in this pic).
This raises some interesting questions. Could 3D animations threaten the livelihood of pornstars? For the psychological satisfaction, I'd always choose to watch a real girl getting fucked over a fake one, but what if they didn't tell you?
And if pedos start producing lifelike 3D animated child porn, how the fuck are law enforcement going to tell the real abused children from the imaginary ones?
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#76769 - 12/31/04 07:04 PM
Re: Will Computer 3D render porn stars obsolete?
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Registered: 09/10/04
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I doubt that 3D anbimation will ever completely eradicate real people in porn or mainstream media.
I read a piece awhile ago about why "The Polar Express" hadn't been more successful, and it relates to the fact that the animation may be the most "realistic" to date, it stil isn't "real," and our brains distance us from such images. I haven't seen "The Polar Express," but I saw enough commercials, and I have to say, the characters may LOOK realistic, but there is something about them that just isn't right, and bothers me. Seeing those empty eyes, and vacant expressions... it's just disturbing.
Why Gollum was so readily loved and accepted isn't explained, but I think it's b/c Gollum is a character that really cannot exist outside of a computer. Watching a digital representation of Tom Hanks just isn't the same as watching him actually perform a role in person.
I doubt CG porn will overtake real-people porn. Part of the thrill is knowing that what you're watching HAPPENED. That girl took two dicks in her ass. She sucked them clean, and them the guys plastered her eyes shut when they came on her face. That's part of the thrill. I think people would distrust digital porn.
Just my thoughts...
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#76770 - 12/31/04 09:25 PM
Re: Will Computer 3D render porn stars obsolete?
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
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I doubt that 3D anbimation will ever completely eradicate real people in porn or mainstream media.
I read a piece awhile ago about why "The Polar Express" hadn't been more successful, and it relates to the fact that the animation may be the most "realistic" to date, it stil isn't "real," and our brains distance us from such images. I haven't seen "The Polar Express," but I saw enough commercials, and I have to say, the characters may LOOK realistic, but there is something about them that just isn't right, and bothers me. Seeing those empty eyes, and vacant expressions... it's just disturbing.
Why Gollum was so readily loved and accepted isn't explained, but I think it's b/c Gollum is a character that really cannot exist outside of a computer. Watching a digital representation of Tom Hanks just isn't the same as watching him actually perform a role in person.
You're absolutely right with regard to the current state of the art, but you lack imagination if you think it will always remain that way. Compare "Polar Express" with "Toy Story". The technology is inevitably progressing towards genuine photo-realism and it's not going to be that long. It's really just a factor of processing power, and that's been increasing exponentially for the past 30 years.
It would of course require not just the technology, but also skillful artistry to make a realistic portrayal of human behaviour characteristics and avoid things like the vacant looking eyes you talk of. As the rendering technology itself become ubiquitous, this will probably become the mainstay of the animator's art - observing how people move, facial expressions, all the little quirks real people display and accurately reproducing them in digital characters. I don't see any reason why this will not be achieved.
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I doubt CG porn will overtake real-people porn. Part of the thrill is knowing that what you're watching HAPPENED. That girl took two dicks in her ass. She sucked them clean, and them the guys plastered her eyes shut when they came on her face. That's part of the thrill. I think people would distrust digital porn.
Absolutely, as I said, the psychological satisfaction of knowing that girl really did that would not be there. Assuming that we know it's a digital creation.
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#76771 - 01/01/05 09:33 AM
Re: Will Computer 3D render porn stars obsolete?
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/03/03
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Why spend $10 million on CG animation when you can make the same profit on Blown Out Butts #137 for the cost of $1000 to a whore, a bottle of 'bird to each crewmember, and a Handicam from the pawn shop?
The only advantage CG animation would have is that a supremely clever director could say "Hey, what if we add another hole to her that we can stick more cocks into?" thus continuing the current trends in porn past the physical limitations imposed by nature.
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#76773 - 01/01/05 11:22 PM
Re: Will Computer 3D render porn stars obsolete?
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 08/28/04
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Loc: Seattle
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Equivalent processing power to that which was used to render "Toy Story" in 1995 can be bought for a few grand now.
Sure, but the biggest cost isn't the computers, it's the artists that create the wireframes, texture them, light the scene and then animate it to look realistic. Those people are in high demand and get paid amazing money by the big companies that do feature films. I doubt that any adult company would be willing to invest in those people and pay the high salary.
And just because you can buy the software and the computers off the shelf, doesn't mean you'll make something that looks photorealistic. It takes skill and a lot of experience. And once you have the skill and experience to do something like that, you'll probably want to get paid well and work on high-profile jobs like feature films.
Just my 2-cents...
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#76774 - 01/07/05 11:57 AM
Re: Will Computer 3D render porn stars obsolete?
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
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sometime mid-2004 scaling ended-you're not going to see a jump from 333-3ghz again. intel had to cancel a bunch of stuff and they're tapped out at 3.8, shit's moving to parallelism in general and dual cores i think should be out this year. not a bad idea when you consider a couple of opteron 250s don't have a high clockspeed but fly. but i don't think raw ghz will go up that much anytime soon, seeing the ibm chip apple uses needs watercooling, intel's a mess and amd isn't going to go over 3ghz for a while.
if someone solves this, they'll be really rich and some companies won't exist.
but there's always some new former soviet republic to exploit--i hear latvian girls will work for toilet paper.
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