Calm down, man

CASE CLOSED!!

You aren't much of a debater so let's just end this right now
Robert and I don't get along but one thing we will back each other on is that we are not the same person and that he is male and i am female

all you can come back with is that i'm a liar and that I'm male and that you can prove I'm lying about living in Vegas cause you lived here for 10 years. How does you living here for any time prove i am male or female?good point moron

and so I'm a guy that's your one argument ok lets explore that for a minute. Let's just say for argument's sake that you are right...then go back about 2 or 3 posts of yours and re read how turned on i was making you and how much you'd love to fuck me, well if I'm a guy and you wanna fuck me .......FAG!!!!!!!

and i guess if it came down to i had to be a man and the choice was be a liar or a FAG, i guess i'll lie my ass off anyday

now if you are looking for that gay male porno contract shit those are easy to get, you should be hooked up in a week, now its all making sense, all the strippers in vegas he fucked at mount charleston were all the gay underground douncers or the guys upstairs at olympic gardens!! and the director making the movie about his life, is it Bobby Trendy for that cow the Anna nicole show? I figured it all out im so smart!!


as far as who asked me what i think about full panel testing, i could care less, i dont do porn so its not part of my thoughts, i think porn is a risk but when we all go to our "normal" jobs theres as much of a chance we could get hit by a bus as much as there is that gen could contract an std at work so i dont think about it, if you live your life worrying youll be dead before you have any fun so I really dont have any thoughts on full panel testing sorry, I just hate people singing the praises of bi britni because its her husband writing everything


ok whtzahor i am done sorry for the grief from now on ill drop all my bombs on the outsider on the shitlist!!

CASE CLOSED

To answer your Vegas question Outsider. I love Vegas except for the city's stance against porn and anything adult. This is supposed to be Sin City. But its more like Chastity Belt city.

Yeah, limitlessgirl has a crush on me, it's obvious.

For your information though, I'm completely straight.

Gay guys are usually better looking than straight guys, though, so thanks for the compliment. I'm flattered when gay guys hit on me, though. It's nice.

As for Vegas being anti-adult...yeah, I guess it seems that way. But, the real shtick ain't what it seems.

It's all about payoffs and kickbacks, my man.

The Red Rooster, Sinful, Hide and Seek, etc...all do 'favors' to keep the police at bay, as do the strip clubs.

It's 'do as I say, not as I do'.

I'm still looking forward to seeing an attachment with a pic of limitlessgir.

When are we gonna get that, honey?

Or are you like most of these porn girls...

...butt fuckin' ugly in high school...

...fat

...gangly...

...and then at age 18...

...cute, as long as the makeup gets caked on...

...lose weight from speed and coke...

...get down to a size 5 and do 300 movies...

...then start going to rehab, stop speed and coke...

...and go back to being fat and gangly like they were in high school.

Most porn 'stars' are only 'pretty' as long as they're on weight reducing addictive drugs. They're really fat pigs in hiding. Eventually, the drugs make them nuts, and they can't do them anymore.

...then they have to go back to being fat AND crazy.

Thank God I was always attractive and thin. I worked hard to stay that way. Shit, I look just about the same now as I did when I was fucking Homecoming King.

But about the pic issue...

Is that you, limitlessgirl?

Did you balloon up after stripping?

Come on, loudmouth, put a picture up.

If you're cute, I promise I will be more than complimentary.

The Outsider

It's interesting as The Outsider says he has every female partner have a full panel test taken by the county. For as many girls that he claimed to fuck with his wife and seeing how Limitlessgrl broke it down for the year. I don't see how he followed through espcially when it takes the county anywhere between 7-10days for results.

Also, speaking of me being able to help those who are new to the industry. I've said before and will say again that I've had my share of telling new talent the positive and negative side to the industry and how they have the free will to take a direction they choose. In which we live as legal adults to do something and not have mommy or daddy tell us "no" because it's wrong.

As far as making a world difference for the industry with full panel testing, i dont have the financial capability as most people to make that change. Someone like The Outsider who claims to have so much money, enough to talk about it, then perhaps if he cares so much like he says he does, maybe he should be the one taking care of the problem in result of loving the adult industry so much. It's notgonna hurt his wallet is it? Of course not. Unless he lied.

Also, I know LimitlessGrl (Danielle) she's female. If youre questioning as to whether I'm female then fucking as Jeff over at JM Productions office or even Tony Malice. Everytime I'm at their office we end up talking about the message board. So there's no excuse in denying me.

Also the comments of The Outsider on how he took girls on a day long hiking trip in no mans land to fuck them. I bet you anything if that happened more than once, he probably paid those girls. Just too ashamed to mention so. I mean fuck, not like anyone would know the difference if you twisted the truth a little, right? As much as I love hiking myself, I'd never spend a day with a stranger, no matter how hot he was, in the middleof nowhere to have a quick fuck.

Also, I don't understand how you people allow all the negative stories to be the priority in your minds. I mean, pointing out the facts that in general women in porn do drugs to keep their weight stable, then going to rehab they only return to over weight girls still doing porno. How the hell do you people come up with this bullshit? Just because a few people in the industry are like that, suddenly everyone is? Talk about ignorance of a five year old.

It seems to me that you people only focus on that negative side of the industry because it stands out more. Why don't you look for things that are more appealing. Such as girls who enjoy they're job, make it look good, dont waste their lives on drugs, aren't out there to make others look bad, things of that sort and just shut the fuck up? Is that so hard? And god damn forbid that you feel much happier because of it.

All you angry people out there are like that because you bring it upon yourself. You allow yourself to mold that way. And your only excuse is to blame it on the world.

lastly... I don't see how even the dumb girl that wants to get laid finds any attraction to fuck THe Outsider with his awful attitude. He's so errogant.

I'm done and I'm sure you guys are glad.

Gen thinks me a liar.

Well, I'll tell you what, I'm able to PROVE every word I write, and yeah, I can back up all my bragging.

My wife and I have had RELATIONSHIPS with women, not fly by night fucks. In the past six months, however, we have had little time for girls, and only had three girlfriends.

At the moment, we aren't seeing anyone.

I am currently working on my business, which requires me to spend hours and hours on the computer. I've had to learn a gazzilion programs to make this business work properly, and to get it online.

Our standing rule is that we do not pay for sex. We aren't interested in having someone fake it for money. Since you're in this sordid world of porn, your brain has changed, Gen.

Once a girl gets paid for having sex, which can start as early as when Daddy, Uncle, Grandfather, or Family Friend begins paying a girl...her entire view of the world changes.

Some girls can't have sex, after traumatizing early experiences such as those, which are MORE common than not, without getting paid.

This is probably why you think I'd have to pay for sex.

Girls who are raised with proper parenting are taught that sex is something you do with people you care about. For girls like these, such as my wife, getting paid for having sex simply does not compute.

Since you raised this topic, Gen, it's only fair that I give my side of it, even if it hurts you.

The only girls I have ever had accuse me of paying for sex...

...are girls that get paid for having sex.

Due to your upbringing, and your chosen path, you simply can't understand why people might not do as you do. I'd love to help you get past this line of thinking, but my therapy doesn't come cheap. It requires TRUST.

Asking a girl in porn for their TRUST is the toughest thing you can ask for.

The breaking of TRUST, after all, is the reason they went into porn in the first place.

You may find this hard to believe, but I have never, not even once, broken TRUST with my wife. I don't break the TRUST of my friends, either.

Your anger at me, Gen, tells me you'd like to know me better.

I'm not 'typical', and therefore, you feel the need to conquer me. You'd like to make me into all the other men you've known, who are and were mainly composed of shit...

...but I just won't fit the mold.

I won't buy your movies, look at your pics, pay you for sex, or take you shopping.

I also don't cheat on my wife.

What I will do for you, Gen, is something no one has ever done for you...something you wouldn't be able to understand, or handle.

I will be your friend.

And, in the process of being your friend, I will kick your ass and point you to a better way of life...a life that doesn't end at age 28, where you don't have to start over, where you hang out with people who say things like, 'you'll just have to accept you're gonna get herpes'.

On our first meeting, I'd listen to you speak, intently, and remember every word. I'd ask you questions as you talk about your day, and let you figure out your problems simply by having someone listen to you. We'd go for a walk along the oceanfront, talk some more, and get a bite to eat.

Eventually, you'll see that this heart of mine, which you think so black and angry, really isn't that way at all.

You soon see that my heart is full of unconditional love. Shit, the girl I care about, you may work with soon. For all I know, you may have already worked with her. She's already got 10 movies out, in three months, and I'm quite sure there's probably 100 more to come. But even after all this...

...I'd still welcome her back.

Sometimes the most honest, caring, genuine people come off as being tough. My mom comes off that way. But I can tell you from experience- my mom runs a tight, tight ship, and her kids have ALL been wildly successful at most everything they've done. However, if you were to speak to her personally, you'd get the idea that she's tough. Tough as nails. But, it simply isn't true.

You might find it hard to believe that girls might actually be attracted to me, and my wife, and want to have relationships with us.

Your porn-riddled brain just can't accept this.

There must be some sort of compensation paid to these ladies, right?

Why yes, there is.

What do they get out of it?

KNOWLEDGE, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE, AND FRIENDSHIP.

Can you imagine that?

I know you can't.

However, if you hung out with my wife and I, even for a little while...you'd understand.

In fact, you'd probably dump your boy toy, and take a break from doing porn for a while.

However, since you're too chickenshit to actually meet me, you'll simply never know.

You'll just go on, making the same idiotic mistakes you are making now, like some dog chasing it's tail, until they tell you they can't use you anymore.

I could show you a better way, a better life, and a happier approach to relationships...but you won't let me in.

Too bad for you, Gen. Too bad for you.

When the gun is cocked, and at your head, and you're about to pull the trigger...I'd like you to call me. I'll turn your head around, and show you how truly wonderful life can be.

It's a shame it will probably have to come to that, but that's where it will go.

I hear your pain, through your angry, distrustful words...

...and I'm here for you, Gen.

But like I said, my therapy don't come cheap.

My therapy requires TRUST.

For you, and the girl I care about, TRUST is the toughest thing to give.

You give me your TRUST, and I give you my KNOWLEDGE.

That's the deal.

It's the same deal I've offered all the girls we've been with.

The only one who went astray is the one I'm here on this board for. And one day, I hope she'll come to her senses...and come back.

Do you understand why I don't have to pay for sex yet, Gen?

It's because HEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS don't require FINANCIAL COMPENSATION.

I could do wonders for you, Gen, if you'd only open your heart.

Don't even attempt to give me some crap about how you aren't attracted to me. I know you are. In fact, on some level, you're probably falling in love with me.

All that matters now is that you do what you know you want to do...and take a chance.

All I require...is your TRUST.

The Outsider

The main idea of how idiotic it would be for a girl to fuck you and your wife is to go hours at a time of hiking just to get to that point. That's rediculous. I'd say, lets hang at home, relax in the hot tub and fuck for hours. I wouldn't trust anyone to hike that long in the heat just to get fucked. I'm not talking about the money as a point. That's why I was making the assumption that you probably had to pay a girl to hike that much to get what you wanted.

You mentioned how bringing children up right is to teach to know that having sex is right when you care about them... how can you say you care about all these 300 women you and your wife had sex with in a year? You can't really know a whole a lot about one female and trust them in less than a year, let alone 300. And your words are going against what a real marriage is about. It's all about you two... not anyone else you bring into your sacred relationship.

You make it sound like you fuck all your good friends because that's what you do when you build trust. But I'm happy and capable of living my life with a few friends that make me happy and glad to be around and dont have to have sex with.

On another note, I have not changed once since I've been known to existence. I've always been the way I am... only difference is in the last few years i've acted upon my ideas, fantasies and desires. If I'm not hurting anyone else then why the fuck not.

Finally... why would I or should I build trust with you? Why would I ever want to consider meeting you besides the fact of fucking you and your wife. That has no appeal to me. I'm not into that crap. I like being watched by a crowd of people,knowing millions are going to see me on video. Also known as exhibitionist. I dont care about that crap off camera. I like my loving relationship like anyone elses on the side of pornography. That way I get to live my life in different aspects, get a better taste of life. And life happy. That's all.

I wonder why after many times of bringing it up, you haven't responded to my idea of helping out the adult industry with your well talked about earned money in helping the industries medical for STD full panel? After all you seem to care about all of our well-being in the acts of some holy god.

We never said we had sex with 300 girls in one year.

That's spread out over 10 years, not one.

Someone has a reading problem, I think.

And we don't go hiking with people to fuck them. Things just end up happening, because, like I said, we have RELATIONSHIPS with them.

Do I care about these girls, and women?

You fucking bet I do.

We're still in contact with most of them, too.

One runs one of the biggest ad agencies in New York City, and is now married. Another does runway modelling in Paris, and has a few Cosmo covers under her belt. None, except for the 'one that got away', are in porn. And I'm still working on that stray one, as you can see.

It's funny how women who sell their bodies love to talk about the 'sacred marriage.'

The girl we knew used to bring that up, too.

Talk about contradiction.

My wife and I have the most honest, wonderful marriage in the whole world. We tell each other EVERYTHING, we are fun to hang out with, and we don't understand how you people have this really strange view of the 'sacred marriage.'

What it comes down to, is your 'exhibitionism'.

Your 'exhibitionism' is nothing more than a stupid, cliche attempt to get CONTROL over men, for some trespass that was committed against you in the past.

Thus, you have this distorted view of 'sacred marriage'.

You can't share someone you love because you need to control everything. The last time someone controlled you, it made you nuts. That's why you're doing what you're doing right now.

In a loving relationship, darling, both people are equal.

You wouldn't be able to handle that, Gen.

You aren't past what got you so angry, so damn mad, that you wanted to control everyone and everything by doing porn.

My wife knows everything, is my equal, and I cherish her. She doesn't need to control everyone by becoming a stripper, or doing porn. She has her emotions under control.

Unlike you.

You are here on this board because you need approval.

You want my approval the most.

You want to make me into every other dork you've ever known, and I just ain't that guy. Sorry.

I'm the guy you always wanted, but couldn't keep.

You couldn't keep a guy like me because your anger makes you TAKE ADVANTAGE all the time. You have never worked your problems out, explored them fully, and whenever the guys you like has his back turned...you take advantage so you can have the illusion of control.

But I'm a tough motherfuckingsonofabitch, and you can't pull the wool over my eyes.

I don't need your sex.

I want your trust.

I don't care if we ever have sex.

Tell you what though, if we ever do...I won't be like anyone you've ever fucking met.

95% of an orgasm originates in the brain.

I have a really, really big brain.

You haven't even scratched the surface.

As to your annoying question:

Here's my answer.

I am only in this room, on this board, for one reason, and one reason only.

I am here to attempt to pull the girl who went astray out of this self-destructive world of porn, to let her know that she can come back with open arms, and that we still care.

From what I have heard, she has come here, and read what I wrote. That's a good thing, and encouraging.

Attempting to put my wealth behind a testing format that should already have been in place is ridiculous. It's up to the porn studios to protect themselves, and their performers. It's as simple as that.

From what I've heard, my discussion of this topis IS MAKING WAVES, and yes, even though people may say they hate me, most of them- when Red Light, JM, and Sineplex dudes aren't around and lurking- most of these girls say I'm right.

Sky Lopez may even have come here, and been inspired by my opinions. I would say I'm making progress, if that happens to be true.

As for you not ever wanting to meet...that's your choice.

It's a really, really silly one, but it's yours.

You spend hours on here, going back and forth with me in some sort of pre-coitus drama, but you're too afraid to go get a cup of coffee, and take a walk by the ocean. Amazing.

I think you fear me.

You fear the fact that I can look inside your soul, and see that little girl in there. The little girl who has no idea what she's doing, and wishes someone would tell her to stop.

I can't be what you need me to be if you won't even get a damn cup of coffee.

Or do you have to be paid to get a cup of coffee?

Is there one normal relationship thing you can do without being paid, or having a camera on you?

If not, I'd say that's pretty sad, and needs to change.

You fear me, Gen.

You fear me because I KNOW, and I SEE.

Good luck trying to get that from all the losers you hang out with.

It don't exist, babe.

The Outsider

I never said I was mad or angry at anyone. Get your facts straight. I don't control anybody. I don't even want to know where you get your wild ideas from. But it's sure sad that you're stuck in this bubble putting yourself on a pedestal. How much more errogant can you be. Run along and grow up. I'm done with you. Trying getting fucked in the ass and you wouldn't be so uptight trying to act like god to everyone. You are not right or wrong so get over everything I've said that's my opinion and quit saying I'm wrong about everything. Not everyone in this world is meant to be like you OH HOLY ONE.

Ciao!

Public challenge to the outsider:

just need answers to a few questions if you are willing to get it all out in the open
#1. is your first name Michael?
#2. You said you lived in vegas for 10 years, did you graduate from high school out here?

I'd like to make a song dedication, to the girl I miss, and wish would hear my heart.

The new Vertical Horizon album is tremendous.

The song I would like to dedicate is called, 'Forever', and it is track 3 on the new album, 'Go'.

Listen to those words ladies, and tell me what an asshole I am.

Go hear that song, and tell me.

Limitlessgirl, I'm only going to give you enough info. I'm not going to allow some nut who is reading this to come find me, and be a moron. I'm well aware of what you know about me, and what you don't. If you want to know me better, PM me, and we can talk on the phone. It would be nice to hear your voice.

Quote from the almighty mistress of denial, Ms. Gen Padova:

"Trying getting fucked in the ass and you wouldn't be so uptight trying to act like god to everyone."

Heck, that's too telling to even bother talking about.

What's odd is the girl I used to know said the same thing to me last time we hung out, and she yelled those exact words at me. Odd, it is. Sure don't plan on getting my bowels penetrated though.

My plumbing only flows out, thank you very much.

Go buy Vertical Horizon's new album, and listen to track 3.

It will make your soul happy.

Trust me on that.

Track 10 is pretty fucking great too.

Y'all need a Soul Makeover.

The Outsider

Guess that fell on deaf ears, I assume that means he is not accepting the challenge?? giving out a first name, and letting me know what city you went to high school in gives me too much personal info on you....ok pussyboy


Why don't you call Kasey Kasem with your long distance dedication bullshit, moron nobody knows what girl you are talking about, probably because you dont know any pornstar to save your life, but even if you did you wont say who it is, she doesnr post here and since you wont give out the name nobody would be able to pass the message along, are you just talking to yourself??

total jackass, you want revenge on her and you hate her for doing porn now you hear a song and want to change your tune and be a sweetie to her, you hate gen she angers you and you want to kick her ass and now you want her trust and to be friends , your out to try to challenge me out i respond back and all you want to do is try to fuck me , get your goddamned story straight

I didn't go to school in Vegas.

Yes, my first name happens to be Michael.

Happy?

Would you like to know what my favorite cereal is?

Cocoa Pebbles.

To answer your litany...

Yes, I have been going through terminal mood swings since this girl went into porn. I care, I'm angry, and I care, and I'm angry. Going back and forth is just the way I'm dealing with it.

I don't need to name the girl I'm talking about. I'm sure she comes here, and I'm sure she's read what I wrote. She was an internet addict before, and I'm sure that hasn't changed. She probably lurks around to see if anyone mentions her fucking videos. In fact, I think I've spotted her on AdultDVDTalk.

Even though I haven't bought any of her videos, naming her would only increase her popularity, and help her get more boxcovers. I sure don't need to help her get any further into this, that's for sure.

When you figure that my posts on here are getting an average of 1,000 views in a matter of days, naming her would just about amount to putting a commercial on a local radio station.

It ain't brain surgery to figure out who it is anyways. You all have enough clues already.

I may as well be screaming at Gen though, because the two of them are like siamese twins. It's really odd how Gen will say the exact same phrases, the exact same way. Freaks me out a bit, to be sure. I guess it all goes with the 'I got fucked in the ass, so now I don't care about anything at all' mindset. Oh well.

The love/hate thing is not hard to understand.

These are emotions you go through when you care about someone, and don't like seeing them hurt themselves. People who don't give a shit don't have mood swings. And that's because- they simply don't care. I care.

So now that I've answered your two questions, do we get to see a pic of you?

Or are you just another buffet munching super huge Vegas circus animal female? There's a lot of those there. Fucking fat women's heaven, Vegas is. That's one of the reasons we left, by the way. You don't find too many fat women on the coast of California. Rich guys don't like fat women, and fat women don't go to the beach. That is, except when the hispanics drag their fat women out. Or roll them, as it were. God, what an awful display of flesh that is. Too many damn bean burritos for those women.

Put your money where your mouth is.

Put up a pic.

The Outsider

There's a lot of fat people everywhere... and that's anywhere from 10lbs over weight to more. Take a better look at California and the rest of the U.S. we're swarming in lard. Other than health reasons, it's because America picked up a diet at it's convenience. You'd be surprised with all the fat people on the beach let alone everywhere else. But it's okay. Don't continuous look if you don't like it, gauk at a skinny one or something.