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#67040 - 11/02/04 08:48 PM "Too Close To Call"
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Shades of the 2000 election 4 years ago, if I hear somebody say "too close to call" one more time I'm gonna flip out.
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#67041 - 11/03/04 01:03 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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I hear ya.....

It also screws up my lessons plans for today...Great teachable moment but it also throws off my semester given today is the last day before finals.....I just like a clear cut winner undisputed winner.
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#67042 - 11/03/04 02:51 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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Registered: 04/21/04
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It's not too close to call anymore.

The Dems ran a loser candidate, against someone that should have been easy to cast away. Maybe next time they'll run a centrist candidate that isn't such a joke.
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#67043 - 11/03/04 03:33 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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It's not too close to call anymore.

The Dems ran a loser candidate, against someone that should have been easy to cast away. Maybe next time they'll run a centrist candidate that isn't such a joke.




Hey, who gives a shit.

In four more years I predict;

This board and all the other sites I enjoy will be gone because Ashcroft and his storm troopers will have turned the internet into the Holy Ground.

America will have invaded either Syria or Iran in another bid for more oil and restructing contracts.

The draft will be brought back and all healthy young Americans will be drafted to fight in Bush's stupid wars. Hey, maybe you or your kid will have the right to go over and get blown to pieces for his rich oil friends.

The poor will continue to get poor, jobs will be lost and jobs will be outsourced. At least the rich won't have to worry.

Osama will still be making tapes.

Bush will still be a stuttering dufus for a President that the world despises. Yup, who cares what the world thinks, I know. When America is going it alone in Iran or Syria, trust me, you'll wish the world was on your side.

YOU GUYS ARE SO FUCKED!!!
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#67044 - 11/03/04 04:05 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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Don't whine to me. I didn't vote for Bush.

Geez. You need an apple, bad.

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#67045 - 11/03/04 04:12 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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Don't whine to me. I didn't vote for Bush.

Geez. You need an apple, bad.






Hey, I'm Canadian! Always have been, always will be!

I just can't believe that Americans would willingly elect a guy who's pimpslapped them for the last four years.

As for the apple comment -- what the fuck does that mean?
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#67046 - 11/03/04 04:38 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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Registered: 08/09/06
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Hey, who gives a shit.

In four more years I predict;

This board and all the other sites I enjoy will be gone because Ashcroft and his storm troopers will have turned the internet into the Holy Ground.






Not gonna happen. I think Rob Black is the only one in any real trouble. I also think he will win in the end anyway.

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America will have invaded either Syria or Iran in another bid for more oil and restructing contracts.






Again, not gonna happen. They don't have any oil. Plus now we can open up the Alaskan Wilderness and get our own.

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The draft will be brought back and all healthy young Americans will be drafted to fight in Bush's stupid wars. Hey, maybe you or your kid will have the right to go over and get blown to pieces for his rich oil friends.






They won't draft me cause I am afflicted with a terrible disease, Chronic Masturbation Syndrome or CMS.

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The poor will continue to get poor, jobs will be lost and jobs will be outsourced. At least the rich won't have to worry.






There is always a silver lining. At least there will be a lot more of those fat military jobs to go around.

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Osama will still be making tapes.






Yes, and crawling out of the hole in the ground where he lives and making empty threats from the middle of nowhere.

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Bush will still be a stuttering dufus for a President that the world despises. Yup, who cares what the world thinks, I know. When America is going it alone in Iran or Syria, trust me, you'll wish the world was on your side.






Yes, and he is so easy to make fun of for it. Kerry would have provided some good laugh material as well. Personally I don't give a fuck what the world thinks. I wanted to vote for Bush just to say "Fuck You" to France and the rest.

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YOU GUYS ARE SO FUCKED!!!






I don't think so. It's the rest of the world that's screwed.

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#67047 - 11/03/04 07:55 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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YOU GUYS ARE SO FUCKED!!!






I don't think so. It's the rest of the world that's screwed.








1,000 dead American soldiers in one year. Hmmm, four more years that's another four thousand I think.

Five thousand dead soldiers. Very good!

Take pride in your victory Have2cit. By the way, France is laughing its ass off right now, knowing that Americans have dug themselves into an even bigger hole.

Outsourcing, WMDs, draft, Osama, deficit... These words are all fake, created by a liberal media. Yes, go back to sleep. Go back to sleep.
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#67048 - 11/03/04 07:57 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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nd western europe loves crowing about this war and whipping those dumb enough to be talking big-birds that say mikey moore's ideas when you pull the string. it's been a rough 50 years for those great empires, so rough that countries that essentially still hate each other are agreeing to pool resources because they resent us taking their relevance and their best and brightest. western europe should never talk about politics take the legacy of anywhere france had troops or colonies--they're all moderately above bronze-age civilizations. and you can't yell about things being hundreds of years ago-france fucked up vietnam and the UK randomly bombs stuff like the falklands and has yet to realize what they're doing in northern ireland is one of the most unenlightened and criminal things going on anywhere. europe doesn't know shit-what % of the vote did LePen get? what about the increasing xenophobia and the always-present anti-semitism?(thanks for those eastern european jews that are usually the best at any method of determining intelligence. btw). why don't you pay more attention to the fact that in the next 20 years, you're going to have to deal with tons of north africans who hate you AND when russia finally bleeds out the kgb-turned smartest and most ruthless criminals anywhere are going to move in to keep feeding on poor russians. i'm so sick of this shit, bush sucks, but he did oust one of the top despots of the last 25 years. save for those amazing scandanavian countries that eat pickled seafood for breakfast, we've got a decent system for an open country that DOES welcome and assimilate extremely poor immigrants and has historically never shown half the leanings towards militant nationalism that europe has--there wasn't a gbod choice for president but i'm not going to get self-loathing about anything. go eliminate a deadly disease from your livestock, your intact caste-sytems, or do whatever the vatican or socialist philosopher tells you to.
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#67049 - 11/03/04 09:08 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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1,000 dead American soldiers in one year. Hmmm, four more years that's another four thousand I think.

Five thousand dead soldiers. Very good!






The're our soldiers not yours. You don't get to belittle their lives.

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Take pride in your victory Have2cit. By the way, France is laughing its ass off right now, knowing that Americans have dug themselves into an even bigger hole.






It's not my victory I didn't vote for him. France isn't laughing. Their business leaders are crying because that means poor sales for French products in the U.S. for 4 more years.

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Outsourcing, WMDs, draft, Osama, deficit... These words are all fake, created by a liberal media. Yes, go back to sleep. Go back to sleep.






LOL, That sounds just like a campaign commercial. What's really gonna fuck with you is in 4 years when they elect Tricky Dick Cheney.

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#67050 - 11/03/04 09:33 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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i'm sure france is laughing,sarkozy's going to make your muslim pop, the largest in europe, flip out and kill you with scimitars. and the whole pan-eurotrashism thing is just a joke-barroso's already fucked up with that italian bigot and you've got corruption and latvians throughout that organization.
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#67051 - 11/03/04 10:00 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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Registered: 09/21/04
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1,000 dead American soldiers in one year. Hmmm, four more years that's another four thousand I think.

Five thousand dead soldiers. Very good!





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The're our soldiers not yours. You don't get to belittle their lives.









Sadly, I'm the only one that isn't...

I'm terrified that 5,000 more soldiers have to die for such an evil regime.

Despite what your regime tells you, I'll give you the skinny on Canada. Most Canadians love America. We're sorta the little sister and America is the older brother. We bicker and shit about who took each others CDs or timber, but deep down, we're down with each other in a way that other countries don't get.

The rally in Ottawa after 9/11 was much larger than in any other country and the fact that thousands of Canadians travelled into New York to help the victims speaks volumes.

But we see, as does the most of the world, that what is going on in the US is totally and completely wrong. Good boys and girls are dying for oil and anyone who doubts this reality has their fucking head so far up their ass its scary. I despise what Bush has made of the greatest country on Earth. Your economy sucks, your wars are for false reasons and in the end lots of people are dying for something that is just plain wrong.

I would never belittle your soldiers (dead or alive) -- I have far too much respect for them to ever do that.

The Bush regime, not so much.
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#67052 - 11/03/04 10:21 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
have2cit Offline
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Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
Now, now you're just mad because you lost. And beccause with a republican in the White House you know it will cut into the amount of work for your second job. Muleing pot across the US border in the dead of night.

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#67053 - 11/03/04 10:31 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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Now, now you're just mad because you lost. And beccause with a republican in the White House you know it will cut into the amount of work for your second job. Muleing pot across the US border in the dead of night.






Funny, never tried pot or any other drug -- it's not my thing. Interesting though, you used to be the one with the crackhead avatar.

Actually, George Bush is good for the Canadian economy. Nobody outsources jobs like Mr. Bush. Check out the film industry in Toronto and British Columbia -- those jobs used to belong to Americans. LOL! George Bush is great for the Canadian economy and don't let anyone tell you different.

By the way, do Canadians run drugs across the border? I know senior Americans are really big into getting drugs across our border, but I can't figure out why. Oh yeah, your President is owned by the big drug companies and oh yeah, he doesn't give a shit about senior Americans or most other Americans for that matter.
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#67054 - 11/03/04 10:51 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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researching, patenting and getting the fda greenlight for a drug costs a shitload, the rest of the world can thank our senior citizens for the existance of many of them. on the other hand, i don't give a fuck about the greatest generation--they've done more damage to the planet in their lifetimes than any other and left us with a fucking mess. so they stopped hitler-after the entire world knew he was going to do something relatively hostile or evil 5 years before he'd rebuilt the military to anything useful for the aggressive river-crossings those germans do every few centuries since ceasar divided gaul up. worst modern political decision ever, plus they fucked up the creation of pakistan and israel so they can eat cat food if they think they deserve shit. then the self-congratulatory geezers have to tie up traffic every other week with some parade celebrating defeating the evil they allowed to become so powerful.
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#67055 - 11/03/04 11:00 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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Registered: 09/21/04
Posts: 295
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researching, patenting and getting the fda greenlight for a drug costs a shitload, the rest of the world can thank our senior citizens for the existance of many of them. on the other hand, i don't give a fuck about the greatest generation--they've done more damage to the planet in their lifetimes than any other and left us with a fucking mess. so they stopped hitler-after the entire world knew he was going to do something relatively hostile or evil 5 years before he'd rebuilt the military to anything useful for the aggressive river-crossings those germans do every few centuries since ceasar divided gaul up. worst modern political decision ever, plus they fucked up the creation of pakistan and israel so they can eat cat food if they think they deserve shit. then the self-congratulatory geezers have to tie up traffic every other week with some parade celebrating defeating the evil they allowed to become so powerful.





Ya, damn them senior Americans! Yee haw!

How's your sauerkraut? Oh shit, you don't have to eat sauerkraut because senior Americans bitchslapped Hitler, and wiped their ass with Japan. Who cares how long they waited, when they were called -- they got the fucking job done!

Senior Americans deserve nothing but yours and my respect because mother fucker, they earned it!
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#67056 - 11/03/04 11:17 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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Funny, never tried pot or any other drug -- it's not my thing. Interesting though, you used to be the one with the crackhead avatar.





Actually, it is a comedians avatar Dave Chapelle. You should have known that. Hmmmm I thought all of you canadians were stealing US Satellite TV?

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Actually, George Bush is good for the Canadian economy. Nobody outsources jobs like Mr. Bush. Check out the film industry in Toronto and British Columbia -- those jobs used to belong to Americans. LOL! George Bush is great for the Canadian economy and don't let anyone tell you different.

By the way, do Canadians run drugs across the border? I know senior Americans are really big into getting drugs across our border, but I can't figure out why. Oh yeah........





Nice commercial but elections are over you lost. Looooooooossssserrrrr!

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.....your President is owned by the big drug companies and oh yeah, he doesn't give a shit about senior Americans or most other Americans for that matter.





So is Kerry. And if you think Kerry actually cares about anything but himself then your a fool.



We want to thank you foreign fucks anyway for telling what government we should choose. I know that without your help we just wouldn't have known what to do.

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#67057 - 11/03/04 11:27 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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The Chappelle character in your avatar is a fucking crackead! You should know this mother fucker, it's your avatar. As for stealing US satellite, it's nearly impossible nowadays, they keep zapping 'em so often it's not worth it.

By the way, I'm not the loser. Bush ain't my fucking President, biatch!

As for us foreigners (yee haw) helping you guys pick your President, hey, no problem.
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#67058 - 11/03/04 12:17 PM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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sure, they earned it at the greatest human cost possible thanks to the greatest failure of strategy and intelligence in modern history. they fucked up like nobody has ever fucked up-the guy basically stated his intentions and even after the 36 olympics when he had his coming-out party for world-domination he still didn't have enough gats to have required a full year to stop. instead, after the olympics, we let him ramp up and in this stretch develop an effective u-boat, bf-109 and fw-190 which were the most dangerous shit in the german arsenal when they had intitial success and both fighters with mild revision were the main fighter/escorts for the luft. throughout the war. they were partially unalarmed because he was just being a bastard to jews, which was a collegiate sport until 1958 here but mostly because they just shit the bed. then ate it.
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#67059 - 11/03/04 01:17 PM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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Anybody notice the complete change in character for the 2 defeated democratic clowns? The Dems lost because they picked the wrong guys to win! It looks like Kerry was putting on an act the whole time after all and John Edwards seems like Dan Quayle now. In Kerry's concession speech we saw a more presidential looking guy than the one spewing angry mindless rhetoric for the past year. You can't run as a war hero if you tossed your medals away. Ahh, hindsight is always blinding.
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#67060 - 11/03/04 11:21 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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Registered: 09/21/04
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Anybody notice the complete change in character for the 2 defeated democratic clowns? The Dems lost because they picked the wrong guys to win! It looks like Kerry was putting on an act the whole time after all and John Edwards seems like Dan Quayle now. In Kerry's concession speech we saw a more presidential looking guy than the one spewing angry mindless rhetoric for the past year. You can't run as a war hero if you tossed your medals away. Ahh, hindsight is always blinding.






Point being, he was a war hero. Not a flunky who skipped out of the National Guard duty that his daddy helped him get into because he was to scared to actually serve.

Anyways, it's all in the past now so who gives a flying fuck.
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#67061 - 11/03/04 11:34 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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The Chappelle character in your avatar is a fucking crackead! You should know this mother fucker, it's your avatar.





I just thought you didn't know who he was. You are from canada. I give smartt the same leeway.

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As for stealing US satellite, it's nearly impossible nowadays, they keep zapping 'em so often it's not worth it.





You must be getting your U.S. TV from somewhere you know all about Dave Chapelle.

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By the way, I'm not the loser. Bush ain't my fucking President, biatch!





You’re the one bitching like he is. You don't hear anyone else on here:

WMD's wahhhhh

America is gonna invade everyone wahhhhh

Tax cuts for the rich wahhhhh

Outsourcing jobs wahhhhh

You bitch like an old woman. You lost get over it. Loooooosssseeeeerrrr!

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As for us foreigners (yee haw) helping you guys pick your President, hey, no problem.





Thank you, your help has been as valuable as the canadian dollar.

One last thing just so you know it's not bacon, it's ham motherfucker.

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#67062 - 11/03/04 11:48 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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Thank you, your help has been as valuable as the canadian dollar.







Well, your film industry loves our Canadian dollar.

Ham bacon, what the fuck are you talking about?


As for not knowing who Chappelle is, WTF, Canadians seem to know more about what's going in the US than most of the people in the US. Our cultures are virtually the same except we tend to watch hockey a lot more. We also hate to see a great country getting gag-factored by someone like Bush and his crooked regime. Anyways, who gives a shit, it's in the past.

By the way, who would you have to jerk off to if there wasn't Canada? Most of the best studs working in the business currently are from Canada, and we all know it's the boys you jerk off to Have2cit, not the girls. Peace out!
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#67063 - 11/03/04 12:27 PM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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this is about as challenging as getting into mcgill, let's stop pulling talking 2nd-tier nation big-bird's string have2. i think it's broken, just like hockey and claims their implementation of public healthcare is feasible longterm. and eric everhard stole his penis from a cadaver and makes weird noises. i take that back, most canadians have the same speech impediment.
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#67064 - 11/03/04 01:07 PM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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and eric everhard stole his penis from a cadaver and makes weird noises. i take that back, most canadians have the same speech impediment.





I know what this aboot, it's aboot that I say eh a lot.

Ain it?
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#67065 - 11/03/04 01:12 PM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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Anybody notice the complete change in character for the 2 defeated democratic clowns? The Dems lost because they picked the wrong guys to win! It looks like Kerry was putting on an act the whole time after all and John Edwards seems like Dan Quayle now. In Kerry's concession speech we saw a more presidential looking guy than the one spewing angry mindless rhetoric for the past year. You can't run as a war hero if you tossed your medals away. Ahh, hindsight is always blinding.





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#67066 - 11/03/04 02:23 PM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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AS a soldier, your post made more sense than any other post on this board. The sad part is that i can't see why the other half of the country can't see this shit coming. And they really believe this guy is a strong leader and he's pulling strings when all he did was give the order to go to war.

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#67067 - 11/03/04 02:37 PM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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I would love to know the breakdown of Military votes for full time enlisted men in the Military- it would be very interesting if the majority of them voted for Bush- after all these are the men fighting for the usa in "his" war and yet they support him- it should tell people something.
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#67068 - 11/03/04 02:44 PM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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the military tends to vote Republican anyway...mainly because they are ones who favor military spending.
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#67069 - 11/03/04 03:47 PM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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We also hate to see a great country getting gag-factored by someone like Bush and his crooked regime.





Don’t you get it yet? You don’t get a say.

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Most of the best studs working in the business currently are from Canada.





I’ll take your word for it. You and Brandon can hold hands, cuddle, make out, and tell yourselves that it's alright because all the guys in canada do it and you're not really gay just experimenting.

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#67070 - 11/03/04 04:13 PM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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We also hate to see a great country getting gag-factored by someone like Bush and his crooked regime.





Don’t you get it yet? You don’t get a say.

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Most of the best studs working in the business currently are from Canada.





I’ll take your word for it. You and Brandon can hold hands, cuddle, make out, and tell yourselves that it's alright because all the guys in canada do it and you're not really gay just experimenting.





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#67071 - 11/03/04 04:55 PM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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The Dems lost because they picked the wrong guys to win!



Exactly.

The fundamental problem the Democrats have to solve in the next three years is the disconnect between the kind of candidate who has a chance to win the nomination and the kind of candidate who can win the election.

To win the primaries and the nomination you have to win amongst fundraisers and party activists, not the general electorate. The Republican activists are close enough to the general electorate that candidates that can win the election can also win nominations, and Republicans raise funds from amongst their activists, not a small group of big donors.

But this is not so for the Democrats. They rely heavily on large donors for startup campaign funding, and their party activists tend to be much too liberal - they don't resemble the electorate - and far too single-issue oriented, unable to make any sacrifice on gay marriages, guns, etc, to actually win an election.

Paradoxically what I think would help Democrats the most are real and strict campaign finance laws, shutting out big donors even at the start of the primary process. This would hurt the Democrats at first because they are so depend on a few large donors. But by forcing them to appeal to a broad group of potential voters right from the start in order to raise money I think they'll get moderate and electable candidates. They'd still have the problem of leftist activists, but they'd be at least competitive (and I suspect Democratic activists would tolerate a lot more moderate a candidate than most believe, in order to win an election in their lifetimes).

(most people think of Republicans as having fat-cat donors but has not been true for a long time - in 2000 DNC didn't even bother soliciting individual contributes, operating solely off fat-cats! RNC has operated off of grass-roots fundraising for years)

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In Kerry's concession speech we saw a more presidential looking guy than the one spewing angry mindless rhetoric for the past year.



Remember Bob Dole? Exactly the same situation - a tight-ass during the campaign, and a genuinely likeable, and electable, guy afterwards.

What this election means for 2008 is unclear. At first it would seem the Democrats should just all commit suicide - if you can't defeat Bush who CAN you defeat? - but it may also be that they'll finally fire MacAuliffe and trash the entire DNC and start over. If they dynamite the entire process and start over they should make a better showing in the future.
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#67072 - 11/03/04 05:25 PM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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Registered: 06/03/04
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Loc: blue state.....red county...
another problem with Democrats is they don't seem to be able to get their message out effectively enough..They beat around the bush...case in point...as I was preparing for my government class I need to update my overheads on Democrats and Republicans as the platform changes every four years after the convention...I went to the respective websites and downloaded both platforms...
The Democratic platform reads like a college thesis paper...they gripe and complain about what Bush is doing or did for 2 pages before they spend 1-2 paragraphs explaining what they will do, believe, or support..

Republican's on the other hand....only talks about what they believe, will support, and do...no time is spent criticizing anyone or idea...
Not that many people read the platform..but if Democrats can't even explain clearly what they stand for to a high school government teacher who actively sought out the information...how are they communicating it to the general population who rely on their news from the local station in 30 minutes segments? There is going to come a point when the Democratic leadership will need to articulate what they stand for without critizing others...

Do we learn as kids...you don't have to put someone down to elevate yourself....it always backfires...
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#67073 - 11/04/04 02:48 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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Registered: 11/04/04
Posts: 32
In the Name of Allah, the merciful and compassionate

You Conservatives only help our cause. On the day after the election, The Al-Qaeda Main Office received 75,000 faxes asking about openings for Junior and Senior Level Terrorist. Not a bad position, actually. We offer 401k Plan too.
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#67074 - 11/04/04 04:03 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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We offer 401k Plan too.



I figured you were all on the 666k plan.
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#67075 - 11/04/04 04:12 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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Registered: 04/21/04
Posts: 3899
Loc: CO Springs


GROAN . . . . . . . .
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#67076 - 11/04/04 04:43 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
Osama Bin Ladin Offline
Ed Hardy Wearing Loser

Registered: 11/04/04
Posts: 32
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We offer 401k Plan too.



I figured you were all on the 666k plan.



Praise B2 Allah\

DO NOT ADDRESS ME IN THAT TONE YOU HEATHEN PIG FUCKER!

jrv (aka heathen)Osama
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#67077 - 11/04/04 08:54 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 7888
Loc: Carpathian Mountains
Hello- dirt worshipping heathen- I have but one question for you- Which Gag Factor is your favorite?
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#67078 - 11/04/04 11:29 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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Registered: 11/04/04
Posts: 32
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Hello- dirt worshipping heathen- I have but one question for you- Which Gag Factor is your favorite?



The one with the Aurora Snow, or course. Do you even have to ask?
(quack quack)
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#67079 - 11/04/04 01:45 PM Re: "Too Close To Call"
Cleetus VanDamme Offline
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Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 7888
Loc: Carpathian Mountains
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Hello- dirt worshipping heathen- I have but one question for you- Which Gag Factor is your favorite?



The one with the Aurora Snow, or course. Do you even have to ask?
(quack quack)




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#67080 - 11/05/04 06:48 AM Re: "Too Close To Call"
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Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 1176
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In the Name of Allah, the merciful and compassionate

You Conservatives only help our cause. On the day after the election, The Al-Qaeda Main Office received 75,000 faxes asking about openings for Junior and Senior Level Terrorist. Not a bad position, actually. We offer 401k Plan too.




Actually Osama, I have been considering applying for one of your Holy Martyr positions and would appreciate some more information. The benefits, especially the "seventy virgins in paradise" termination package, piqued my interest. I have a few questions:

1.) Does accidentally blowing yourself up still count as martyrdom?
2.) Do I get to select the virgins myself?
3.) Am I free to use them however I want? (I hope virgin ATOGM isn't frowned upon by Allah.)
4.) Do I get a new supply of virgins once the original seventy are used up?
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