Her comments about D-Cypher/Devan/HardcoreGossip Guy are particularily noteworthy.
Porn Valley- Justine Joli was interviewed this week by Sports Swami. Asked what she had been up to, Joli replied that she was keeping busy working for Michael Ninn and Nectar, along with Vivid, Jenna Jameson and her company. "And getting my sight launched which is over a year and a half in the process," she said. According to Joli, her site was to have launched last week but that hasn't happened yet.
Joli said her site would have a store. "It will have everything in it. I have options sites. I'm going to be traveling around the country going to different conventions so I'll get to meet my fans on a regular basis." Joli said her fans will also be able to write into her and tell her what they'd like to see on a video. "They'll get about a 25 minute clip. The first 15 minutes are put up on line. Everyone gets to see the first 15 minutes. However the last ten minutes are just for the fans who wrote in."
Joli will be doing other promotional features as well. "Like auctioning off a video with the clothing I was wearing that day. Auctioning off my stockings. There's a lot of fetish on my site. Foot fetish is also one of my things and just doing hot, beautiful women that want to do whatever they want. Joli said she has plans of doing a trade shoot with Jenna Jameson. "Hopefully I'll get to do another girl-girl with her. The first girl-girl with her was just fucking insane."
Joli said when she begins her site, she'll only be shooting for companies that she really likes. "Like Andrew Blake, Michael Ninn and Wicked and Vivid and Jenna. Those are the only people I'll be shooting for because I want my site to remain exclusive content and anything and everything that my fans could want or need."
It was noted that Joli made some early-on decisions not to do boy-girl work and there were speculations that either she was a lesbian or that she was being pressured by her boyfriend D Cypher of
www.hardcoregossip.com. Another surmise was that she didn't find men appealing. Joli had to laugh at the multiple choices. "No, I'm actually bisexual," Joli replied. "I'm 60-40." Joli said she told her mother when she was 16 that she was bi and claims her mother told her all she needs is a good man.
"I had already been with women at that point- I made out with women and my friends and stuff like that. But we never talked about it because it was the midwest. It's not that I don't like men. And it's not that I'm a diehard lesbian. I'm actually 60-40. I live with D Cypher. Why would I be against men if I lived with D Cypher."
Joli said she didn't hate men. "I love men actually- dirty little cocksucker that I am." However doing guys on film, says Joli is a boundary she can't cross. "It makes me a little uncomfortable- I think I would end up losing my total sex life to film. There's got to be something for me that's private. I am a Cancer. We're very private individuals, anyway. And I'm a private individual in that sense. I don't mind going to sex parties and swing parties and stuff like that. I don't mind sharing my sexuality with other people- just not on film."
The other rumor was that D Cypher had a leash on Joli. "He's a little over protective but that's very sweet," she commented. "He doesn't do it in a way- he might sound all tough, but he isn't. He's a teddy bear. He just wants to protect my best interests. I don't think he's trying to be overly aggressive. And everybody thinks that it's him- the reason I don't do guys on film. No, I'm comfortable with doing him on film. I'm totally comfortable with doing the person I'm with on film- not random people. If it were going to be me doing it on film, I would do it with Devan only. because he's wonderful and a great performer, and the fact that I'm totally in love with him, and I would love to share that with the world. However I don't think we'd have our own private sex life at that point."
Joli said while it has nothing to do with Cypher, it's her own boundaries. "That I can have something a little bit private from work." With those boundaries, Joli was asked if it was tough getting work.
Joli said that's not the case at all. "I have people calling me all the time wanting to hire me just because I do girl-girl, and I have a following; and because I'm easy to work with- I always have a smile on my face, I'm always happy and I love doing my job. I love sharing my love for women on film. That's something I'm totally comfortable with and want to express."
Joli said she's never had a director comment, "What do you mean you won't do guys?" But Joli also admits receiving comments that her stance puts directors in tight positions as to what they can do with her. "But they've always said since you don't do guys we'll keep you mind for other things. They've never been that's just too bad. They've always been really cool about it to me."
Joli was asked if the tables had ever been turned and women left their men for her. "I've never had a fatal attraction," Joli said. However Joli related an experience where she and a female co-star were "shagging" one another the whole time they were on a project.
"Between us working at 6 in the morning- our call time- and having to get up at five. We'd go to work, have fun, we'd come home, we'd shag. She'd go out to do some more filming. She'd come back, we'd shag, we'd cuddle, fall asleep, get up at five. This went on for an entire week." Joli said she didn't realize it at first.
"I'm not a very aggressive woman towards other women because I was aggressive on a trip one time and I found out that- not only was she not into women- but she thought of me as her friend. I crossed the boundary and since then I've never been aggressive."
But in this case, relates Joli, while the girl was sitting next to her in bed she said to Joli, "It hurts my neck to sit over here- can I cuddle up with you. From that moment on we were girlfriends. It was really fuckin' cool because I never had that happen.
"It wasn't a fatal attraction," Joli continued. "Because we had always remained friends after that. Like there was no weirdness because we both had boyfriends. We both loved each other and loved having fun with one another. But it was never a psycho fatal attraction like I've heard Jenna stories."
Joli said she still looks upon those memories with fondness. "In fact she's no longer in the industry and it's kind of sad for me. It saddens my heart that I won't be able to play with her and have a relationship with her because she's not interested in having any part to do with the business any more."
Providing a little more detail, Joli said it occurred after she had just flown in from living in Prague. "I really missed America- I missed American girls and being able to have a full-on conversation. Because when you're living in a foreign country and don't speak enough of the language to have conversations with people, you miss that."
Joli said it was a breath of fresh air when she came back. "She was sitting next to me and playing with my top- being just forward enough. Then she ran her fingers down my arm. We started holding hands and the next thing I know we're making out. From making out I slowly undress her." Joli said she started going down on the woman.
"Just exploring her to fullest and bringing her to orgasm," recounts Joli. "She falls asleep. I was just being in a very giving mood that night. I just wanted to cuddle up with her and snuggle with her all night long. She gave me some of the best orgasms I've ever had the next day."
Lending another hint, Joli mentioned that it had been an Andrew Blake shoot. "There's like five people [including two makeup girls]. So when you're filming, no one's really paying attention to you. When everyone was filming we'd sneak off to the bathroom and make out. Or we'd go out at night to dinner together. We'd just be making out the whole time in New York. It was crazy and it was fun. I never had something so fun happen to me before and it was quite an experience. She remains one of the most wonderful girls in my heart forever. She came on to me. It was something I hadn't expected. I hadn't expected that a woman would be so into me: you're hot, you're funny, you're smart. I want to be with you. Great. No psycho attraction. No I'm going to kill your boyfriend for being with you. None of that stuff. She was a really cool girl."
But Joli still wasn't providing a name. "She's no longer in this business." However Joli gave up the name of the movie. "It was shot in New York. The name of the movie is Justine and it's Andrew Blake's Justine. You'll be able to tell in the flick which girl I was totally into."
Joli said she's met a lot of women in the adult industry who've had one failed relationship after another. "I look at those women- if you put a naked man and a naked woman in front of her- she would always go 100% of the time to the naked woman. It's a Freudian thing. You go after what you really want."
Citing an example of another woman who was "lesbian," Joli said she knew the woman was not okay with that fact. "Because her mom's not okay with it-she grew up with the fact that lesbians are sick and it's disgusting. And she never wanted to admit to herself that she's a lesbian. Still to this day she's dating guys and having a horrible time at it. But she won't allow herself to be lesbian because that's what she truly is."
Joli's of the opinion that every girl has to try it out at least once. "After so many failed relationships, you just go, fuck it. I might as well be a lesbian. There are worse problems with women than there are with men. There really are. Women can become vicious, evil, cruel, stalkers- stalkers to the point of like scary fucking shit like the psychos you really worry about like coming to your house and cutting you up because they can't have you."
Joli said she's found that trait more in women than in men. Joli kept stressing that she was not a lesbian, that she was 60% hetero. "I tried dating a woman after I had gone through so many failed relationships and she was just awful, controlling, weird. She was worse than one of my boyfriends. She was controlling and abusive. That's disgusting- you're a woman- you should be more understanding of me. No, I don't think that if you all of a sudden just say I'm a fuckin' lesbian after dating guys for the last ten years, you were always a lesbian. You're now just being comfortable enough with yourself to let that out."
Joli said she's now just being comfortable enough to admit she's bisexual. "I've been bisexual since I was 16 but almost a decade later- I'm now just becoming comfortable with the fact that it's alright to be bi. It's okay. I'm not going to leave my boyfriend, that's it, I'm a lesbian. Because I can't do that. I need my cock too." Joli claims there's nothing that would make her declare her lesbianism. " I need pussy. I can't just have one or the other."
Joli went on to point out that she doesn't do anal on film. "And everybody keeps telling me that features are dead- I laugh at that. Even though Andrew Blakes' sales are down, they're actually on their way back up because people want eroticism. They want a storyline. Couples porn is coming back in because more and more companies are becoming comfortable with the fact that they're [couples] into porn. I don't think that the feature business is dead."
Joli doesn't work for gonzo companies. "I did in the beginning but I don't anymore because I don't agree with the things that they do. I don't agree with double-vag and double-anal and things like that. That stuff's painful. It depends. Some girls really, really enjoy it. If you can do it and really enjoy it, it's a great thing. But I think the gonzo world has gone a little too overboard in the way they present sexuality."
That being said, Joli said she prefers to work with people like Michael Ninn. "I have done a lot of mainstream stuff in the recent year." But Joli said that's not because she sought it out. She stresses that she enjoys the comraderie of the adult business. "There's a sense of being nice and being wonderful to everybody else. It's not like the mainstream world. The mainstream world is very cold and callous. If you're not acting a princess on set, you get no attention. They don't notice you. They don't care. If they can't get into your pants they REALLY don't care. They're just kind of cold. They'd rather try and shag you."
The mainstream jobs just come along, says Joli. "Nobody knows I do porn. I go, why not. Take the job. If it comes through, great. But it's nothing that important. It's not that I was seeking it out." Joli mentioned that she auditioned for the film Anger Management. "I totally botched the whole thing," she states. "Then again I was terrified. I never had a real speaking part. But now that I do auditions I practice the scripts and really focus in on it."
During the Anger Management audition, Joli said she met a guy who did a soap opera years ago that she was totally in love with. "I think he played Bo in The Days of Our Lives. He was sitting next to me as well. He went upstairs and he was auditioning for the supporting actor. It was, like, oh my God, I'm meeting this person in person. He doesn't really want to talk to me- I can't go, oh my God, I'm a huge fan. And Christina Applegate is sitting on my left. And she's going through a magazine. She's sitting there. She looks really cute. She's got her makeup done. Her hair is done. She's in jeans and a T-shirt. She just looks really nice. And I'm a huge fan of Christina Applegate. I've always wanted to do her." Joli said it was really intimidating to be sitting next to them. "And know that she was auditioning for the very same part I was auditioning for."
Because she conceded the job to Applegate, Joli said she had a defeatist attitude about the job. "I was really scared, actually." Joli said she desperately wanted to say something about being a fan but, instead, got into a conversation with Applegate about giving dogs Prozac. "It was nice to be able to talk to her but then it threw me off of focusing in on my script. I ended up fucking up the whole thing. But that was probably why- I was so nervous to be sitting next to Christina Applegate."
If given the chance, Joli said she would have loved the opportunity to go out for drinks with Applegate. "If she'd take me up on the offer, fuckin' A. I'd take her out in a heartbeat."
Asked if she'd consider a contract with Sin City, particularly that her boyfriend works for them, Joli said she has a strict rule against mixing sex and business. "I don't allow my boyfriend to have anything to do with my site- it's totally me. They don't have anything to do with my work. They're not allowed to talk about it.
"There's a strict separation of church and state," she laughed. "Emotional things can get tied into it and you'd lose sight of where you want to go with your business. As far as taking a contract from Sin City they'd have to offer it to me first. And then we could see. I'd rather work with a company that would sign me as a girl-girl contract with the things I have in mind.
"A lot of people don't want to sign girl-girl because they don't think it makes enough money. But yet Andrew Blake makes four million off of every movie that I'm in. It's kind of strange. Girl-girl doesn't make much but Andrew Blake has made his living off of girl-girl movies for years with only one hardcore scene in it."
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