Does anyone see this thing turning from a feel good America,fuck yeah to a bloody shitstorm big enough to cover everyone's hands?

As a father with a son...and I think I can speak for all of those here...I'd do whatever the fuck to get my kid home. If that meant posting some of the shit the dad has posted...yeah...I'd be OK with it. I can excuse everything the dad has done.

The dude deserted. And probably intended to switch sides. Maybe, maybe not. I don't think it played out the way it should have for him. In my mind, he payed. Maybe bust him in rank, dishonorable him, take half his pay. Or not. I'm good either way.

If I had a magic wand, the kid would go home and life his life. I hate to steal from The Dark Knight, but here goes. The "truth" isn't what we need, but it's what we deserve. The story, the legend, the clean version...is the "truth' we need. Let Obama spike the ball in the end zone, let it draw attention from the VA thing and the Benghazi hearings. Whatever. Let the kid and his family have peace. Let Americans have a nice moment. I don't think it'll happen.

Of course, the target on Americans abroad just got much bigger. But we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

If I had the wand I'd also like to see the 5 motherfuckers we traded for this kid have accidents in Qatari tranny bars. It would be poetic.

Please tell me you're really not this stupid, Cartman.

Try repeating this verbatim to a parent of one of the soldiers who died trying to find him.

I couldn't. Which was kind of my point. The truth is what we deserve, but I'm just not sure it's what we need. It's probably moot, tho. I think the box is already open.

He's not getting demoted. He's getting promoted to staff sergeant. He's already been promoted twice since he deserted. Welcome to a liberal democracy. They always promote people for being bad at their job. Btw, 5 soldiers died searching for this guy after he deserted.

The worm is turning in my head. The more I read, the less sympathy I'm having. I honestly never followed the story too much, other than just being aware this guy existed. It's getting pretty far from being a feel good tale.

Not sure what made this deserter worth 5 Taliban, except it got the focus off Obama on VA Care. However, the VA issue is not going away, and the White House failure/idiot is going to have to answer for this as well.

They've been keeping this in their back pocket for a day when they need a break from all the mounting scandals. The media can't cover for everything forever. Like telling us that a 1% decline in GDP is no big deal because we had a bad winter. Like it isn't always cold in winter. The latest version of "the sky isn't blue" is Hagel telling us that the US still doesn't negotiate with terrorists. Still, 25% or more of the country will believe anything and actually think Obama is the best President in history. Go figure.

I wanted this to be a good story. Quasi- local small town boy, grieving parents...all that shit. Sure, I'd heard the maybe deserted thing, but figured it was probably closer to he accidentally wandered into bad news.

I wanted to give the President and his people kudos for a good thing....if for no other reason than to not rag on him just this once. To believe that he couldn't be that incompetent. He just can't be.

But the more I read, the more I hear...I can't fucking get there. The story we need, the story we deserve...fuck that. It's past time to look our society in the mirror. We're fucked up. Not right, not left. Just fucked up.

I got no answers. I got nothing. How the fuck did it come to this?

Ariel Sharon's Head In An Industrial Press NOTHING GETS MY DICK HARDER THAN THE SCREAMS OF A DYING AMERICAN.

You bore me. To the Gimpbox.

I agree He's annoying. He's an elaborator come lately with the you tube shit.

He's not wrong in this case. There's a lot convoluted about this one.

Let him out. He'll go back in for some other, better deserved reason.

Edited to add: When they do spring you, fer fuck's sake have an intelligent argument, OK? You're not stupid so don't play into it.

Look, this Bergdahl shit ain't so cut & dried. For starters, this guy is a wanderer. he wandered away from base all the fucking time. He has an extensive history of this. Both in the states and in-country.

This supposed "disillusionment letter"? No one can find it.

There is a rush to judgement here. I think the guy's a fuckup who was only in-country because we were running out of people.

You KNOW I have family KIA in Iraq (as the Pipsqueak likes to remind folks). Do you really think I would defend an actual deserter?

I'm going to point out two more things:

1) Does the DOD promote deserters? In absentia or otherwise?

2) McCain, Ayotte, and a shitload of other Republicans were pressuring Obama to release him, knowing FULL WELL that there were 5 taliban attached to the deal. They only flopped because "the nigra" did it.

That's fucked up. Especially for McCain.

And, even if he is guilty, Better to try him ourselves.


Cartman, Shut The Fuck Up. Let Cheesypoofs out so he can be re-boxed on a more annoying charge.

Yes. Desertion is a crime of intent where the servicemember absents himself from duty with intent to remain away permanently. Until intent is confirmed the servicemember is in a status of "whereabouts unknown" which may include prisoners of war. During this time when the servicemember may be a POW, the services' regulations require promotion at the earliest opportunity based on time in service.

And during this time, the servicemember's pay and benefits continue uninterrupted. He is also paid a half per diem at the average worldwide rate, a basic allowance for housing and basic allowance for subsistence (BAH/BAS), overseas duty allowance, hardship pay, etc. This money also bears interest. Bergdahl has therefore earned $300,000-350,000 while in "captivity". Because this money was earned in a combat zone, it is tax free. So he's on the verge of receiving a huge check without having to pay any taxes. That's sure to be popular when it becomes widely known.

Okay. I stand corrected on this aspect of the above. Thanks, Admiral.

However, this goes to my larger point. No one has proven Sgt. Snafu "intended to remain away permanently", and, in fact, there's emerging evidence that he didn't, and that he had a history of wandering off, both at home and in country.

And, more significantly, no one has found or produced this alleged "disillusionment letter" that the O'Reilly types insist exist. That would be highly indicative, if not dispositive, of intent. Produce that, and, well, Panzer might well be presiding over his nuptials to "Chelsea" Manning and they should have a long and unhealthy life together in Leavenworth.

But No One has produced any of this. And Sgt. Snafu is entitled to a fair hearing under the UCMJ, where they can (and absolutely should) bring any such evidence to bear against him.

Meanwhile, independent of all that, the fact remains that McCain, Ayotte, and many other GOP Yahoos were castigating the President about not bringing him home, knowing full well the 5 Taliban were part of the deal. I'm a li'l too hungover to be certain if Graham was one of them, but if he was, that's just as reprehensible as McCain, because he's a reserve JAG officer. The fact that he's a Jackoff and an alleged closet case are besides the point.

Cartman, you never even heard of this guy until last week and you only brought it up because you thought you could make Tritone hay out of it by blaming the colored fella in the White House. So again, until more facts come in, Shut The Fuck Up.

Same thing as never having heard of the guy before last week.

By the way, it has turned into a shitstorm. But it's all Whitey's fault.

i think this entire story is beyond us...

full disclosure. this is a copy paste from an email i sent another xpt'r regarding the matter a few days ago. my words..mancode intact.



i'm guessing there was a broken pawn on the chess board.

Project much, Barry? Let me guess. You're the one calling his parents with death threats, aren't you?

I can't blame you, being so swamped with orders for Tritone pipes, and all. You poor, oppressed victim.

Sarcasm, actually. Steezo and I can joker that way. Sorry your whatever you've got going for me right now wouldn't let you see that.

Yup. You got me. I'm haunting Bob Bergdahl...who looks amazingly like Bongo Boi...with death threats. Even though I hadn't heard of him before last week. Great investigative work there, Woodward. Hey, look into if I'm death threating Bongo Boi, too. You're barely through the looking glass.

Talking pipes in a weed thread. The horror. Never said I was swamped. That's you, scrumptious. A bit of a puss move on your part. I've never pimped my shit on here other than posting pictures. We talk about the goofy shit in our lives on here. It may be mundane or whatever to you, but this place is what it is.

Gotta congratulate you, though. You've been trying so hard to start shit with me for about a year now and I'm finally giving you some attention. Bully for you. Problem is beyond "shut up", you really don't have much. I'm afraid this will be a quick fling. I'm just not that into you. But keep trying.

LOL. More projection. Have it your way. It's actually fun watching you rail against your own interests.

I've been accused of being dimwitted before, and I have no argument for that, but did Barry and J.B. flip/flop sides of the argument here?

Did FOX News & MSNBC do the same thing or have they both gone rogue?

i'm just happy i can put a face to bongo boi. the bongos have intrigued me from day one. #lovethisplace

LOL!

No clue what he's up to, but "projection" is the word of the week. #GoldStarAquaintence

Jerky, the real flip-floping going on here is by McCain, who was all for the swap (February 18th)... until he was against it (June 3rd).




Right. The only in-law I liked was an "acquaintance". Another fail. But keep trying, angry boy. Eventually, one of them talking points has gotta stick.

On it, chief. Your show.

WP printed excerpts from his journals, pre- and post-enlistment. Kid was ticking from the word go.

I've been reading the 2012 Rolling Stone article on him. It's like reading about Oswald.

They will probably promote him under some schedule and the assumption that he would have been promoted at the same pace had he not disappeared and been taken captive. Then they will try him in military court and find him guilty of being a jack ass, bust him down to corporal or private, give him five years at Leavenworth for going off wandering. They'll suspend the sentence for time served as a Taliban captive, give him an other than honorable discharge. He'll lose whatever pension he had but will receive back pay, and everyone will go back to business. Then he'll wander off into Canada.

I keep hearing he doesn't want to talk to his family yet and that's a pretty typical thing for POW/ hostages. I remember when the POWs came home after Viet Nam and they pretty much came off the plane directly to their families. Kind of curious if this a new (the last 20 years or so) thing.

i have to check this out. the tards at work are struggling to sort through this and i have an office day tomorrow.

to explain the tards at work...one bring ups a subject(like this). another expounds whatever headline he/she has read..maybe they werk in whatever point their spouse has told them to have. maybe. then original tard(topic starter)tries to counter simply to make noise.
** pause in conversation**
then both agree we should kill/or nuke whatever offending party. this covers local news to the space program.

these are the people that vote btw.

Yep. Think of how dumb the average person is, then think about 1/2 the population being dumber than that.

With a brand new headline-grabbing world event happening on almost a daily basis, I'm starting to wonder if Obama won't just start World War III before November just so he can call off the elections. I'm only halfway serious, but between Benghazi, Ukraine, the VA scandals, the Bergdahl bungle, the crisis with the underage immigrants at the border and the fall of Iraq, this is one colossal shitstorm occurring all at once.

^ exactly.


Barry. That's the Hastings story. ohhh fuck, didn't realize that. I'll break brains with that one. Rogan has been straight up that conspiracy theory for years. I know more than I thought I did about it.

yup, we should counter putins move and invade brasil.

sorry....I'm in office day mode.

Enough with your Rogan bromance.

I know, right?. sometimes. naw most times. I'm hating myself before I hit submit.

There can never be too much Brogamance. Blame the boutique weed.

Broganmance. Roganmance.

joemance

Well, fellas, Lou is out of the closet. Now we have a token homo again.

We need another Mexican, since Figgs got hit by a train chasing butterflies. I can't run a Mexican schtick, since Beanerules don't flow. Wetbackules? Still not feelin it.

Yeah, what did ever happen to Figgs? If he's back in jail, I would assume it had something to do with his therapist.

heh.. you've had your full access run of the bathhouse wrestling thread for how long/many clicks?. queerbaiting unknown numbers of unsuspecting users and readers?. how dare you sir?.
how-fucken-dare you.




figgs either grew a backbone and took a dirt nap after confronting his neighbors or the state decided to take charge and ship him back to where he came from.

Come on man. Is Joemance a commonly used term on the Rogan boards?

If I went there and first post was, "I've liked his commentating on UFC for years, but after listening to a couple podcasts, I think I have a full on Joemance going." would they ridicule me until I left or would they be like, "Yeah dude, he's fucking dreamy. Welcome Aboard!"

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With Figgs, I would guess he wigged on the neighbors, they dialed 911 and he got locked up. Poor bastard.

He is sort of dreamy.

you lookin for a sign on?. i don't pimp dudes.
and shame on you for missing the . how ph.inshed. of you.
i listen and learn. you yell at dudes in tights and probably wear shirts that indicate your interest.

you've hijacked the hijack and
maybe even slipped the wire fence of reasonable boundaries and tippy-toed into foreign territory.
now we're back on topic.

thinking outside the box courtesy of jerkules...

you guys think i should start a rogan board ripoff thread here?.
ceramic dog shit plays the same game with his alt retard board fantasy socially awkward experiment attempts. Yes he gets gimped for it but that's because he doesn't even train.

we're hurting for hits and i promise to have bornyo move the thread as soon as it endangers the jerky olympics count.

it'll be a mix of violence, porn, and social awareness with a bit of daily topical reference. kinda like what a message board should be minus the weak bitches being weak bitches.

toss it around...get back to me.

I am wearing the t-sirt version of this right now. Wore it to the grocery store with my kid earlier today also.




As far as a Roganesque thread, have at it man. Think of this place as a community blog. Cut out your territory and dominate.

nice. Not a shot but the grocery store reference immediately brings up The Wrestler meat cutter scene.