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#113932 - 06/21/06 09:44 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 06/07/06
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Just out interest. Have most of the AIDS outbreaks been linked to Brazil?
Also, what's the ratio on other STD's? In the non porn world you gotta watch Hep C, and Chlamydia, Herpes etc...just too name a few.
Scary industry...so what's the deal? Just AIDS testing?
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#113934 - 06/22/06 07:12 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 03/12/06
Posts: 164
Loc: At the Second Circle...
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Just out interest. Have most of the AIDS outbreaks been linked to Brazil?
No fellow, no. We had 2 outbreaks and the first one was typically american 
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#113935 - 06/22/06 07:22 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 03/12/06
Posts: 164
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Its sad that something that happens in Brazil with male, ts and female performers is stereotyped to one gender in America,,fucking unreal.
I dont live in Brazil and I dont shoot in Brazil so dont stereotype me as a "tranny" with H.I.V its wrong and outright stupid.
Sure in a perfect world only Brazilians or people who fuck Brazilians would get AIDS but sorry it just aint so. 
Bingo Jeff,
Wendy falls into a trap. Trying´ not to stereotype but doing exactly the same... 
I think that everyone must take a look at these links below...AIDS is a worldwide scare...and the first outbreak took place in San Francisco,CA...
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2156rank.html
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2155rank.html
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2157rank.html
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#113936 - 06/22/06 08:35 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 03/30/05
Posts: 52
Loc: L.A
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No Im not falling in any trap,,the information you provided is WORLDWIDE we are talking about the porn industry and Im telling you that only 1 ts ,jennifer, has EVER been reported by A.I.M as testing positive here in the U.S,,,,,,,so I didnt fall in any trap Im talking about the adult industry NOT as a "whole" BIG DIFFERENCE.
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#113937 - 06/22/06 09:37 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 06/07/06
Posts: 93
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Just out interest. Have most of the AIDS outbreaks been linked to Brazil?
No fellow, no. We had 2 outbreaks and the first one was typically american
Are we talking about recent porn outbreaks?
Brazil always turns up in the media as the culprit. Just wondering how much proof there is?
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#113938 - 06/22/06 10:47 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 03/30/05
Posts: 52
Loc: L.A
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Just out interest. Have most of the AIDS outbreaks been linked to Brazil?
Also, what's the ratio on other STD's? In the non porn world you gotta watch Hep C, and Chlamydia, Herpes etc...just too name a few.
Scary industry...so what's the deal? Just AIDS testing?
Morbs when we are tested the 120 test is for three things; HIV, Chylymadia and ghonherria (sp on both sorry). Hope that helps.
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#113939 - 06/22/06 11:08 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 06/07/06
Posts: 93
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Just out interest. Have most of the AIDS outbreaks been linked to Brazil?
Also, what's the ratio on other STD's? In the non porn world you gotta watch Hep C, and Chlamydia, Herpes etc...just too name a few.
Scary industry...so what's the deal? Just AIDS testing?
Morbs when we are tested the 120 test is for three things; HIV, Chylymadia and ghonherria (sp on both sorry). Hope that helps.
Thanks for the info. In the nonporn world, it's pretty much just condoms. Testing is pretty much left to long term relationships, or trusted partners.
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#113940 - 06/23/06 01:06 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 03/12/06
Posts: 164
Loc: At the Second Circle...
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Are we talking about recent porn outbreaks?
Brazil always turns up in the media as the culprit. Just wondering how much proof there is?
Morbs...of course we´re talking about recent porn outbreaks. I´m talking to you that we had 2 of them. The first one between 1997/98 (100% North American) and the 2nd in 2004 (with a brazilian origin).
Now talking about Brazil. I think that if U have unprotected sex with a woman or a tranny wherever U are (US, France, Russia, Thailand, Brazil, South Africa...) U will be putting yourself is serious danger. It´s not a problem related to 'the place' and more about 'the behaviour'. Take a look at Stagliano and James...
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#113942 - 06/23/06 02:12 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 03/30/05
Posts: 52
Loc: L.A
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NO anyone whether of race or gender is at high risk if they have unprotected sex.
SIMPLE
Ivor Ivor the "group" I belong too? Sweetie let me educate you a bit whether you want to believe it or not BUT men that sleep with trannys 95% DONT sleep with "gay" men. They are ususaly bi-curious/Straight men who are intrigued or curious about the transsexual side of things. Most would rather eat glass than sleep with some hairy man. They are attracted by what they see: feminine body, breast, long hair, smooth skin etcc and the special surprise below. We as transsexuals usually dont associate within the gay community and live a pretty "noraml" life.
I totally agree that the gay community has a MUCH higher risk with H.I.V however the ts community as a whole isnt classified within that community. If you look at any website we are classified as "straight", "speciality", or "niche" NOT GAY!!
Yes it does depend on the person HOWEVER we are speaking about the overall generalization that TS within the adult industry are high risk and I argue that is a bunch of BULL,,,,,,,,,,,I as well as my fellow ts performers go by the same regulations that mainstream performers do. Simple those of us who work full-time or are well known in our industry get tested at A.I.M and abide by the same rules.
Hope that helps
Wendy 
That may be the case in your idealized politically-correct utopia, but here in the real world it's obvious that if I went out and had unprotected sex with 100 random gay men versus 100 random women, I'd be much more likely to contract HIV. This is not a racist, sexist, or homophobic statement; it's simply a fact about the demographics of HIV transmission.
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I am no more high risk than you are.
Your personal risk level depends on your personal behavior, but the group you belong to certainly does present a higher risk.
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#113943 - 06/23/06 02:19 PM
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Registered: 05/27/06
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Actually, the risk of infection depends more on whether or not you receive anal. If you are the 'top', or rather if you fuck somebody in the ass rather than take it in the ass, your risks are significantly reduced, regardless of the sex of the person on the bottom.
It is much easier to tear the tissue of the vagina, and certainly the anus, letting the virus penetrate into the blood stream, over tearing the skin of the cock.
Therefore you would not be 'much more lightly' to catch HIV from having sex with women than with gay men, you would be much more lightly to catch HIV from recieving semen in the ass.
PEOPLE WHO ENGAGE IN ANAL SEX, REGARDLESS OF GENDER, ARE THE MOST AT RISK OF CONTRACTING THE DISEASE.
Then people who engage in reckless behavior, are even more in danger...
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#113944 - 06/23/06 04:24 PM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 10/09/04
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Sweetie let me educate you a bit whether you want to believe it or not BUT men that sleep with trannys 95% DONT sleep with "gay" men. They are ususaly bi-curious/Straight men who are intrigued or curious about the transsexual side of things. Most would rather eat glass than sleep with some hairy man. They are attracted by what they see: feminine body, breast, long hair, smooth skin etcc and the special surprise below. We as transsexuals usually dont associate within the gay community and live a pretty "noraml" life.
I totally agree that the gay community has a MUCH higher risk with H.I.V however the ts community as a whole isnt classified within that community. If you look at any website we are classified as "straight", "speciality", or "niche" NOT GAY!!
Please learn to format your posts.
Firstly, I didn't classify transsexuals as gay, I merely used the extreme example to disprove your point that unprotected sex is "HIGH RISK. SIMPLE", by pointing out the vastly different relative risks in different scenarios. However, there is one key reason why transexuals are in a similar risk bracket as gay men. It comes down to Isabel's point that receiving anal sex is the riskiest activity. One of the big reasons HIV spread so quickly through the gay community is that a "taker" can also be a "giver", greatly increasing the likelihood of retransmission. This also applies to transsexuals.
Secondly, your notions about "straight" men liking transsexuals is laughable. Risk levels depend on a person's behavior, not their self-chosen label. There's a whole gay subculture of men who insist they are 100% "Str8", despite regularly having sex with other men. If you think that men who fuck transsexuals are representative of the general risk level of straight guys, you're kidding yourself.
What's hypocritical is how you so readily acknowledge the higher risk within the gay community, but yourself try to lay claim to the lower risk of heterosexuals. Perhaps if you were one of those who were born male, wanted to be female, went the whole way surgically and tried to integrate into society as a woman, you could rightfully make that claim. Far be it from me to deny your right to celebrate your "third gender", but by choosing to be a chick with a dick you are most definately setting yourself apart from the regular heterosexual community. You're higher risk in terms of both the acts that you perform and people that would perform them with you.
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those of us who work full-time or are well known in our industry get tested at A.I.M and abide by the same rules.
AIM is irrelevant when discussing these risks; it's all about the Darren James scenario.
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#113945 - 06/24/06 03:19 AM
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Registered: 05/27/06
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I don't know Wendy, but I DO know Joanna Jet, she is the UK's leading trans. performer, and I know that the point she would like to come across is that she wants to be treated the same way and equal to any other person who works in adult and abides by the rules, for eg:
-Joanna (and othe trans. performers here on the board) care about their own health.
-Joanna and Wendy both report to the appropriate medical associations in which ever country they are working in, for their STD/STI tests.
-Joanna and co. do not conduct themselves inapropriatly/different to any other girl outside of work.
-Joanna and co. fuck only with tested individuals.
Point being, individualy, they are equally responsible, as the rest of the industry people, and I am sure that they are sick of being accused, or scape-goated by the actions of other people.
Yes, it is true that in Brasil there are many cases of HIV+ individuals of all genders.(esp. in the trans-gender community BUT...) This is because of inadiquate information/education for the general population of what is a 3rd world country. We have established that transmision, although not imposible vaginaly, or through the penis, mostly occurs through recieving anal sex. Straight females, gay/bi men, and trans. all are in a higher risk catogory.
True, transgender people can be the reciever and the giver, like bi-sexual men, but that still does not change the fact that if you are a responsible human being, you do NOT deserve to be bracketed because of certain 'facts', or the actions of others.
I believe that companies, and individuals who shoot in 3rd World area's with high HIV % should take responsibility to quarentine themselves before entering the regular market again in the Western World, or anywhere else.
I don't recall any member of the transsexual porn community EVER being responsible for an outbreak once within the US. (i may be wrong, but I don't think so) True, in Brasil, people may have caught the virus, and it may have been from a transgender person, but they brought it back with them. I would assumbe, that when you work, (or in private) in Brasil, you may have a clue that it may be a good idea to quarentine yourself for a while, nipping as much heart-ache as possible in the bud.
Don't blame the transsexual performers who play by all of the rules, blame the production companies that don't.
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#113946 - 06/26/06 09:24 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 06/07/06
Posts: 93
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Are we talking about recent porn outbreaks?
Brazil always turns up in the media as the culprit. Just wondering how much proof there is?
Morbs...of course we´re talking about recent porn outbreaks. I´m talking to you that we had 2 of them. The first one between 1997/98 (100% North American) and the 2nd in 2004 (with a brazilian origin).
Now talking about Brazil. I think that if U have unprotected sex with a woman or a tranny wherever U are (US, France, Russia, Thailand, Brazil, South Africa...) U will be putting yourself is serious danger. It´s not a problem related to 'the place' and more about 'the behaviour'. Take a look at Stagliano and James...
Sure, I agree. But how hard is to get AIDS from women, via vaginal sex?
Compared to being on the receiving of anal sex?
Interesting discussion.
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#113948 - 06/27/06 01:03 AM
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Registered: 05/27/06
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Be as careful as posible, and read as much as possible.
Here is a quick link to a very basic description of transmission. If u want further details, search the web yourself!
<src img="http://www.metrokc.gov/health/apu/infograms/hiv_transmission_0302.htm">
Edited by isabel (06/27/06 01:04 AM)
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#113953 - 06/27/06 10:27 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 06/07/06
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Are we talking about recent porn outbreaks?
Brazil always turns up in the media as the culprit. Just wondering how much proof there is?
Morbs...of course we´re talking about recent porn outbreaks. I´m talking to you that we had 2 of them. The first one between 1997/98 (100% North American) and the 2nd in 2004 (with a brazilian origin).
Now talking about Brazil. I think that if U have unprotected sex with a woman or a tranny wherever U are (US, France, Russia, Thailand, Brazil, South Africa...) U will be putting yourself is serious danger. It´s not a problem related to 'the place' and more about 'the behaviour'. Take a look at Stagliano and James...
Sure, I agree. But how hard is to get AIDS from women, via vaginal sex?
Compared to being on the receiving of anal sex?
Interesting discussion.
Tommy Morrison (The Duke's Grandson) got it from women.
yeah I remember hearing about that. there was a few 'noted' celebs that got AIDS in the 90's. Remember Easy-E, NWA?
So MANY straight people have sex without condoms these days, yet AIDS have kinda left the media.
Now it's HPV and Hep C, they are creeping up on the kill ratio, may even overtake AIDS.
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#113954 - 06/28/06 07:20 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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No-one catches a disease because of sexual orientation or sexual identity. However, people will catch diseases from someone who is infected. This may be a straight person, a gay person, a bisexual man, a bisexual woman, a tranny or a hermaphrodite. My basic point is that disease doesn't discriminate according to one's sexual orientation or sexual identity. My advice to the straight porn industry is to get over it and stop blaming trannies and the gay community for your own inadequacies.
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#113955 - 06/30/06 08:45 AM
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Porn Jesus
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#530414 - 09/22/11 09:07 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 08/23/11
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Then tell me, genius: if anyone in the US knows that our trannies are HIV+, THEN WHY THE FUCK GUYS LIKE FAGLIANO, ROCCO, TT BOY, NACHO AND SILVERA KEEP GETTING BUTT-SLAMMED BY THEM - BAREBACK???? Because they're the Chuck Norrises of porno-world. Even HIV cannot infect them. The sheer awesomeness in their DNA, kills any invading virus be it HIV, Herpes, Syphilis or anything, same is true for Brandon Iron and ChristianXXX. If paperchase and superloads had not bunked the biology classes during highschool years, they'd have known this fact and wouldn't keep repeating their herpes test argument against Brandon's magnificent Iron.
Edited by Ekarth22 (09/22/11 09:10 PM)
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#530440 - 09/23/11 09:17 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 12/09/08
Posts: 8433
Loc: Great Pacific Northwest
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Then tell me, genius: if anyone in the US knows that our trannies are HIV+, THEN WHY THE FUCK GUYS LIKE FAGLIANO, ROCCO, TT BOY, NACHO AND SILVERA KEEP GETTING BUTT-SLAMMED BY THEM - BAREBACK???? Because they're the Chuck Norrises of porno-world. Even HIV cannot infect them. The sheer awesomeness in their DNA, kills any invading virus be it HIV, Herpes, Syphilis or anything, same is true for Brandon Iron and ChristianXXX. If paperchase and superloads had not bunked the biology classes during highschool years, they'd have known this fact and wouldn't keep repeating their herpes test argument against Brandon's magnificent Iron. Coke, is that you?
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#530454 - 09/23/11 01:15 PM
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Porn Jesus
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lol sheer awesomeness.we have a master troll on our hands.
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#530456 - 09/23/11 01:39 PM
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the fact that he bumped a smartt thread should tell you something...
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