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#435278 - 01/14/10 02:00 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
LouCypher Offline
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Am I the only person who absolutely HATES pot?




No.



Aaand another NO.
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#435279 - 01/14/10 02:31 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
Richard Hungwell Offline
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In all seriousness What are your reasons why you don't like weed...


I remember once a Cop told me it made him stupid,,,what the cop didn't realize that he allways was,, and was still stupid..

And you are correct FI in the old days,,you would definitely see more exotic...We used to occasionally get Thai Bud and that shit was chronic..

Many months in Negril will do that to you...


Edited by Richard Hungwell (01/14/10 02:37 PM)
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#435280 - 01/14/10 02:31 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
Fiend Offline
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Loc: Pit of Despair
Quote:

Quote:

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Am I the only person who absolutely HATES pot?




No.



Aaand another NO.




I won't believe you hate it Lou....as far as I'm concerned you are just neutral about it and we won't discuss it any further.

LA LA LA LA LA LA LA I can't hear you.
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#435281 - 01/14/10 02:47 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
LouCypher Offline
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Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

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Am I the only person who absolutely HATES pot?




No.



Aaand another NO.




I won't believe you hate it Lou....as far as I'm concerned you are just neutral about it and we won't discuss it any further.

LA LA LA LA LA LA LA I can't hear you.




lol... anything that slows down my drinking just really pisses me off. Then there's the fact I hate smoking.

I dunno... that shit just always took me off my game. I'm a control freak and if I'm in a social situation and not able to see what's going to happen next I get all freaked out.

I guess the best thing I can say is that I grew up in a situation like Fiend works in now. I just couldn't afford
to get caught and it carried forward. I always did and still do have friends that smoke so it's not like I give a fuck what you do.
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#435282 - 01/14/10 02:50 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
99% Fiction Offline
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What I wish I could find is some nice "sleepy" weed. The kind where an hour after you smoke you are ready to pass out. The stuff I get keeps me up for about 3-4 hours after i smoke, then I munch out and pass out. I'd like a bag around to cut 2 hours and a lot of calories out of my high.
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#435283 - 01/14/10 03:22 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
electrostatic Offline
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Quote:

Am I the only person who absolutely HATES pot?



NO! I fucking hate it too. I hate the way stoners act, smell, look and eat. I'll smoke pot if I'm looking to self loathe but I'm usually OK on my own. (and don't even get me started on the legalization of marijuana. x infinity)
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#435284 - 01/14/10 03:35 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
E.Y.Davis Offline
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Registered: 04/02/09
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I would love, love, LOVE it if pot were legalized. It is better than alcohol and just about every other "drug" in every single way.

I do love pot, but I haven't done it since my college days. I won't do it unless I'm doing it legally.

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#435285 - 01/14/10 03:43 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
electrostatic Offline
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I think if one drug is illegal all drugs should be illegal. Alcohol too. I think these fucktartds are just wasting time and money fighting to legalize it when people are going to do it anyway.
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#435286 - 01/14/10 03:55 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
E.Y.Davis Offline
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Registered: 04/02/09
Posts: 1541
Loc: Mississippi
Quote:

I think if one drug is illegal all drugs should be illegal. Alcohol too. I think these fucktartds are just wasting time and money fighting to legalize it when people are going to do it anyway.




Personally, I don't believe we should make rules based on the lowest common denominator in society.

Yes, there are people who can't handle alcohol, or pot, but there are people who can't handle working a normal job and paying taxes either, that doesn't mean we're going to make those illegal either. Hundreds of people blow themselves up trying to BBQ a hamburger on the grill, but BBQ or hamburgers cooked on a grill don't need to be made illegal.

We should make intelligent, common sense laws for the average, normal, law abiding citizen, and punish or institutionalize the submorons and losers who can't follow laws or function in society.

People can't drive safely, but cars shouldn't be outlawed. Of course, some people can't handle alcohol or marijuana either. I don't see this as a slippery slope. I feel strongly about this issue. I would vote for a candidate based on his or her opinion of legalizing pot.

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#435288 - 01/14/10 04:31 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
Uomo Grassissimo!! Offline
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Registered: 04/14/06
Posts: 14755
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Quote:

Red-Goat should be relieved of his position ...





Why, Dick?

'cause you no-likey???



What "violation" did he commit to be relieved?

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#435289 - 01/14/10 04:35 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
Darrah Ford's ghost Offline
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Registered: 06/06/09
Posts: 1321
Redgoat:

Quote:

I would love to meet you just once and smack you in the head with a 2x4, and leave you with the rest of the trash in the dumpster.
I'll be in NY this weekend.




Wow, just wow. And people here say I have problems.


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#435292 - 01/14/10 04:44 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
Darrah Ford's ghost Offline
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Registered: 06/06/09
Posts: 1321
I just logged in a few minutes ago and work from the top to the bottom forum. I'm not following anyone because I don't care. I'm just replying on a forum and saw you threatening someone else.


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#435294 - 01/14/10 05:38 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
electrostatic Offline
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Registered: 08/16/08
Posts: 4257
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Quote:

Quote:

I think if one drug is illegal all drugs should be illegal. Alcohol too. I think these fucktartds are just wasting time and money fighting to legalize it when people are going to do it anyway.




Personally, I don't believe we should make rules based on the lowest common denominator in society.

Yes, there are people who can't handle alcohol, or pot, but there are people who can't handle working a normal job and paying taxes either, that doesn't mean we're going to make those illegal either. Hundreds of people blow themselves up trying to BBQ a hamburger on the grill, but BBQ or hamburgers cooked on a grill don't need to be made illegal.

We should make intelligent, common sense laws for the average, normal, law abiding citizen, and punish or institutionalize the submorons and losers who can't follow laws or function in society.

People can't drive safely, but cars shouldn't be outlawed. Of course, some people can't handle alcohol or marijuana either. I don't see this as a slippery slope. I feel strongly about this issue. I would vote for a candidate based on his or her opinion of legalizing pot.





e.y., sir? I wish I could be more like you. You inspire me. I didn't mean to sound so ignorant.


Sometimes, I like to take the time to get my head out of my big fat ass and then maayyybe look at the big picture. Not often, but there are times I do ponder these things, horrible things. Really lame awful stuff.


Long storee showrt, I don't have an issue with pot or its legalization. More so the fact that there are so many hungry homeless chinchillas and yet here we are...


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#435295 - 01/14/10 05:50 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
Bishop Offline
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Registered: 12/13/03
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Loc: Rockin' the Z5U
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Am I the only person who absolutely HATES pot?



No... I have lost my taste for it. I can't remember the last time I got high
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#435296 - 01/14/10 05:50 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
Charlie Malloy Offline
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Registered: 01/10/06
Posts: 1487
Loc: NYC
Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Am I the only person who absolutely HATES pot?




No.



Aaand another NO.




And another NO.

I can't work with pot smokers, in real publishing or at a jack rag. Even an old drunk remembers where he stashed that Wesson oil bottle filled with hooch.

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#435297 - 01/14/10 05:58 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
Richard Hungwell Offline
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You haven't smoked untill you've smoked bubble hash..

Shit fucking bakes you...!
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#435298 - 01/14/10 06:20 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
Richard Hungwell Offline
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Why, Dick?

'cause you no-likey???



What "violation" did he commit to be relieved?







I think his last post sums it up pork-chop..!


The guy is fucking nuts..
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#435299 - 01/14/10 06:29 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
Fiend Offline
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Registered: 11/04/05
Posts: 3509
Loc: Pit of Despair
Quote:

Quote:

Am I the only person who absolutely HATES pot?



No... I have lost my taste for it. I can't remember the last time I got high




Everybody knows blacks graduate from pot to crack when they turn 10.
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#435300 - 01/14/10 06:38 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
Uomo Grassissimo!! Offline
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Registered: 04/14/06
Posts: 14755
Loc: Busy downloading [LEGALLY!]
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I think his last post sums it up pork-chop..!


The guy is fucking nuts..






If they were to exclude the insane, what mods/posters would be left?
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#435301 - 01/14/10 07:19 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
tattypatty Offline
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Loc: a site known for its tolerance...
The herb gives me panic attacks forever. The last two times i smoked it, i could not stop the adrenaline from pouring into my system. As a matter of fact the first time I ever had panic attackts (constantly) and depression was from a direct result of smoking pot.It literally took months to get right again,
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#435302 - 01/14/10 07:40 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
Bornyo Offline
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I don't take the pot either. Last time I smoked it was about 15 yrs ago, and it was as bad an experience as it was for me the time before that- probably 25 yrs ago.
It's like having a fat lady sitting on my chest. I can't breath deeply enough and that leads to discomfort. I don't need that.

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#435303 - 01/14/10 09:03 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
Northrop Offline
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Registered: 01/13/07
Posts: 1011
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The herb gives me panic attacks forever. The last two times i smoked it, i could not stop the adrenaline from pouring into my system. As a matter of fact the first time I ever had panic attackts (constantly) and depression was from a direct result of smoking pot.It literally took months to get right again,




Funniest thing I've read on this board in awhile...

When I smoke marijuana, it seems completely harmless. Thinking about it doing that to someone...

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#435304 - 01/14/10 09:05 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
Kiss of Death Offline
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Registered: 04/22/09
Posts: 58
Quote:

Quote:

Better than being a Dumb-Fuck...Who all he can do is copy/paste...And be a stalker..

Stay the Fuck out of my face,,,and there will be no problems...





A twerp is the one who says to "stay out of my face and there will be no problems" from miles away.

Explain the problems that I will have.

Please make them nerve-wracking enough to shut me up in fear of you.
BTW, I PMed you once because I was curious as to what it meant, but you are too much of a nigger to actually respond, but then exaggerate by claiming it was numerous PMs.

I am really curious as to what my problems will be. Man-up and please make me shake in fear of possible harm in my future.
I can do a lot more,test me out.






Ricardo i would not fuck with this guy,he is a bad-ass..!!


Richard if i were you i would leave right now,when Goat says he's gonna get ya ..Do not fuck with this guy..He's fucking serious do you not know about the Desi thing..!

He's a dangerous mother fucker,nice knowing you..!
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#435305 - 01/14/10 09:08 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
electrostatic Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 08/16/08
Posts: 4257
Loc: Counting Kisses
who's Desi?
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#435306 - 01/14/10 09:21 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
gia jordan Offline
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Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 14160
Loc: NYC
Desi was so last season.
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#435307 - 01/14/10 10:21 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
Bishop Offline
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Registered: 12/13/03
Posts: 2375
Loc: Rockin' the Z5U
Quote:

Desi was so last season.


Congrats on 10000 posts Gia...
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#435308 - 01/14/10 10:37 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
gia jordan Offline
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Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 14160
Loc: NYC
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#435309 - 01/14/10 11:18 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
Darrah Ford's ghost Offline
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Registered: 06/06/09
Posts: 1321
Quote:

PMs.Ricardo i would not fuck with this guy,he is a bad-ass..!!

Richard if i were you i would leave right now,when Goat says he's gonna get ya ..Do not fuck with this guy..He's fucking serious do you not know about the Desi thing..!

He's a dangerous mother fucker,nice knowing you..!




What did he do to her? You mean people actually take their arguments from this forum out in the real world after they log out for the night?





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#435310 - 01/14/10 11:25 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
Smelly Monkey Offline
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Registered: 01/25/04
Posts: 8662
Loc: In a k1ng like state of medioc...
Quote:

Quote:

PMs.Ricardo i would not fuck with this guy,he is a bad-ass..!!

Richard if i were you i would leave right now,when Goat says he's gonna get ya ..Do not fuck with this guy..He's fucking serious do you not know about the Desi thing..!

He's a dangerous mother fucker,nice knowing you..!




What did he do to her? You mean people actually take their arguments from this forum out in the real world after they log out for the night?










Darrah I like you so dont take this the wrong way but you are painfully stupid.
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#435311 - 01/14/10 11:27 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
Dick Dastardly Offline
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Registered: 01/25/06
Posts: 4470
Quote:

I just logged in a few minutes ago and work from the top to the bottom forum. I'm not following anyone because I don't care. I'm just replying on a forum and saw you threatening someone else.




Negative, you’re just replying because you wanted to hear yourself talk.
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#435312 - 01/15/10 09:04 AM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
the unknown pervert Offline
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Registered: 03/22/07
Posts: 5186
Loc: Joshua Tree National Park
Quote:

Am I the only person who absolutely HATES pot?




I don't care if other people use it or not but I've seen straight A students not be able to find car keys that are in plain sight on a coffee table two feet in front of them when they were stoned. I value my brain cells too much for that crap.
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#435313 - 01/15/10 09:30 AM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
delanoojos Offline
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Registered: 05/18/09
Posts: 890
Loc: Midwest / Florida
Quote:

Quote:

You have to remember that the 70s were drugs sex and Rock and roll. There were no airplane issues, they would just bring the shit in from South America or Hawaii, no problem. There were not any TSA issues.

Todays KUSH is nothing compared to the 70s version. The probem back then was that they would often lace the stuff with LSD or some other form of acid which gave it a whole new effect.They used a lot of blotter both green and purple( purple haze) back then

I have not had the chance to sample all of the great California strains that the sell in the stores.But you have to remember back then a Oz was like $50 for the very best stuff. Jamacaian Blue was expensive though. That shit was sticky as hell.

You guys would know better, maybe it's cause IM old, but it just seems that the stuff back then was better. There was so much of it that it was every where.

Question, how many members of this board have a perscription for medical stuff in California?




Better is a relative term....back in the 70s most of the weed was sativa and the high is different. Today commercial growers use indica or indica/sativa hybrids. Indica varieties are more cost effective since you get larger yields with shorter maturation times. Sativa varieties give an upbeat trippy high, usually more giggly, while indica is more mellow, laid back high.




Wow, I think that you do have it correct. Seems that you may be the SME on this subject here.
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#435314 - 01/15/10 10:52 AM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
Uomo Grassissimo!! Offline
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Registered: 04/14/06
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Loc: Busy downloading [LEGALLY!]
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Welcome to Fatman's Hell.
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#435315 - 01/15/10 02:36 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
XPT RIP Offline
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Registered: 03/05/07
Posts: 529
Quote:

I hate the way stoners act, smell, look and eat.




there really is no one way that they "act, smell, look and eat". some the wealthiest, most succesfull people i've ever met were pot smokers. they just don't talk about it. you would be surprised who enjoys the devil weed.

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#435316 - 01/15/10 03:22 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
Fiend Offline
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Registered: 11/04/05
Posts: 3509
Loc: Pit of Despair
Quote:

Quote:

I hate the way stoners act, smell, look and eat.




there really is no one way that they "act, smell, look and eat". some the wealthiest, most succesfull people i've ever met were pot smokers. they just don't talk about it. you would be surprised who enjoys the devil weed.




Apples and oranges.....stay sober and socialize with any group of friends that indulge in some form of intoxicant and that group will annoy the fuck out of you, at least pot heads are harmless and you don't have to hold their hair up out of the toilet or have to worry you might need to do a dump and dash at the ER.
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#435317 - 01/15/10 04:19 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
have2cit Offline
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Anyone who hates weed is racist towards Mexicans and their culture.

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#435318 - 01/15/10 07:11 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
electrostatic Offline
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Registered: 08/16/08
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^Then what would you call a Mexican weed hater?. That is if they exist...






H.R. said:
Quote:

Quote:

I hate the way stoners act, smell, look and eat.




there really is no one way that they "act, smell, look and eat". some the wealthiest, most succesfull people i've ever met were pot smokers. they just don't talk about it. you would be surprised who enjoys the devil weed.



I'm hardly ever surprised by humans and/or drugs. Maybe I'm just jaded.(Doubt it.) I think being wealthy can mean a lot of things, but if you're talking money, it never matters.
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#435319 - 01/15/10 10:27 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
99% Fiction Offline
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Registered: 12/16/08
Posts: 2401
Quote:

Quote:

Am I the only person who absolutely HATES pot?




I don't care if other people use it or not but I've seen straight A students not be able to find car keys that are in plain sight on a coffee table two feet in front of them when they were stoned. I value my brain cells too much for that crap.




That leads me to believe they were on something harder than weed or they were pretending to be high. I saw 2 dudes giggle like school girls and act all dippy for about a half hour, until by buddy told them it was apple flavored tobacco that he rolled up. Only things stoned after that were their faces, as everyone else at the party was laughing hysterically.
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#435320 - 01/15/10 11:01 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
D_Arango Offline
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Registered: 12/30/05
Posts: 138
Loc: mx
Quote:

Then what would you call a Mexican weed hater?. That is if they exist...




I think there are a lot more mexicans inclined to drink more...that comes in handy when trying to justify why they beat their women. We are years behind in pot culture IMO.

There`s good weed here, but there is far better liquor and its cheaper.
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#435321 - 01/15/10 11:20 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
John Floofin Offline
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I don't know this Redgoat guy, but I'd be happy to moderate.

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#435322 - 01/16/10 02:06 AM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
Claude Goddard Offline
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Registered: 06/16/07
Posts: 2512
Loc: Slumberland
Quote:

Anyone who hates weed is racist towards Mexicans and their culture.




I don't know what this means but I find it very funny anyway.

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#435323 - 01/16/10 05:19 AM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
have2cit Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
It's probably because you're a faggot. Did your father cry when you came out, like he did when you told him what you wanted to do for a living?

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#435324 - 01/16/10 07:18 AM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
99% Fiction Offline
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Registered: 12/16/08
Posts: 2401
Quote:

Quote:

Anyone who hates weed is racist towards Mexicans and their culture.




I don't know what this means but I find it very funny anyway.




Comes from the fact that weed was made illegal in the early part of the 20th century to stem the flow of immigrants from Mexico. Another colossal failure in judgement. Technically weed isn't illegal though, you can possess it if you have the proper stamp. But to get the proper stamp, you have to bring the weed in person to a government office, where you will be arrested for not having a stamp.
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#435325 - 01/16/10 11:13 AM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
Northrop Offline
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Registered: 01/13/07
Posts: 1011
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Comes from the fact that weed was made illegal in the early part of the 20th century to stem the flow of immigrants from Mexico. Another colossal failure in judgement. Technically weed isn't illegal though, you can possess it if you have the proper stamp. But to get the proper stamp, you have to bring the weed in person to a government office, where you will be arrested for not having a stamp.




Long time ago, when I thought it was funny to show up at NORML rallies, I remember reading about the Marijuana Stamp Tax Act or called something like that. Remember reading something about the Dupont company being a big driver behind the law. Something about Dupont had some material for making stuff like rope and canvases they were selling that hemp was a competitor with. Outlawing hemp made their product much more valuable in the market... Not swearing toward that knowledge, but I do remember raising my hand in a Sociology course in college and saying something like that and the professor agreeing with me...

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#435326 - 01/16/10 01:38 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
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It was primarily the lumber industry that is responsible for marijuana being illegal. They put pressure on politicians who needed money and newspaper owners (can't print a newspaper without paper). Politicians also needed the support of the newspapers to get elected which they wouldn't get with the lumber industry pulling the strings. Marijunana was also used by a significant number of migrant farm workers who were mostly black and latino that couldn't afford to buy bootleg whiskey so it provided another excuse to the largely racist public and gave white law enforcement an excuse to hassle minorities during prohibition redirecting the focus from bootleggers(who were white).
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#435327 - 01/16/10 05:56 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
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You can make regular paper out of hemp? That's why lumber industry was against marijuana?

Don't know why the lumber companies wouldn't just grow their own plants. Easier to grow than trees.

The story I remember about Dupont, it was a patented synthetic material that they were competing with against hemp. Somebody found

Anyway, no I'm not stoned right now. Don't even know why I'm talking about this.

I just looked it up on Wikipedia... Apparently we're thinking of the same story:

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The Emperor Wears No Clothes, Herer concluded DuPont played a large role in the criminalization of cannabis. In 1938, DuPont patented the processes for creating plastics from coal and oil and a new process for creating paper from wood pulp. If hemp had been largely exploited, Herer believes it would have likely been used to make paper and plastic (nylon), and may have hurt DuPont's profits.




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#435328 - 01/16/10 09:53 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
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Comes from the fact that weed was made illegal in the early part of the 20th century to stem the flow of immigrants from Mexico. Another colossal failure in judgement.




I always thought blacks were the main users, and thus the target of the ban. Maybe they were the main users here when it was banned. Or I was just wrong. Again.




Interesting discussion guys. Carry on.
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#435329 - 01/16/10 10:21 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
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No, I'm sure there was more than one thing. Dupont was part of it, and probably provided the campaign money that was incentive for politicians to actually do something. Social norms, reinforced by whacky wetbacks in the street acting all stoned, I'm sure it was all that. Dupont probably just contributed money.

I've never heard that blacks did a lot of marijuana. Crack, yes. Jail, yes. Fatherless children, yes. But, marijuana? That's the one stereotype I've never heard about black people, till now. Thanks Fatman.

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#435330 - 01/16/10 10:41 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
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I love the fact that a thread started to boot a mod has evolved into a marijuana discussion.

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Industrial Hemp

1. One acre of hemp can produce as much usable fiber as 4 acres of trees or two acres of cotton.

2. Hemp paper is longer lasting than wood pulp, stronger, acid-free, and chlorine free. (Chlorine is estimated to cause up to 10% of all Cancers.) Hemp paper can be recycled 7 times, wood pulp 4 times. Hemp fabric requires fewer chemicals than cotton and is stronger and longer lasting.

3. 5-10,000 Cancer related deaths are caused yearly from pesticide use. Cotton uses as much as 40% of all agricultural pesticides. Hemp uses no pesticides and crowds out weeds without herbicides.

4. Cotton has a drinking problem...extensive water subsidies. Hemp requires less water than cotton and grows in cooler climates.

5. Hemp should be worth $500 per acre if used for low end products such as particle board. If higher use products can be developed such as specialty paper and fabrics, the value could be even greater.

6. Hemp is an excellent rotation crop: it crowds out weeds and its deeptap roots break up hard pan soils.

7. Hemp particle board may be up to 2 times stronger than wood particleboard and holds nails better.

8. Low-THC fiber hemp varieties developed by the French and others have been available for over 20 years. It is impossible to get high from fiber hemp. Over 600,000 acres of hemp is grown worldwide with no drug misuse problem.

9. In 1941 Henry Ford built a plastic car made of fiber from hemp and wheat straw. Anything made from a hydrocarbon can be made from a carbohydrate. The 21st century should be the era of the carbohydrate (sustainable agricultural products.) Hemp plastic is biodegradable, synthetic plastic is not.

10. Hemp is the world's most versatile fiber. Almost any product that can be made from wood, cotton, or petroleum (including plastics) can be made from hemp. There are more than 25,000 known uses for hemp!


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#435331 - 01/16/10 10:59 PM Re: Petition to get redgoat removed as moderator.
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I've never heard that blacks did a lot of marijuana. Crack, yes. Jail, yes. Fatherless children, yes. But, marijuana? That's the one stereotype I've never heard about black people, till now. Thanks Fatman.




What I heard could be apocryphal.

It was the jazz era, the 20s & 30s. Allegedly it was big with black jazz musicians who allegedly began to popularize it with white youth who were into jazz culture in perhaps similar ways to "wiggers" and hip-hop/rap in our time.

Oddly, the theory was that pot made people violent. Maybe the residue of the "hashish/assassin" thing from the Crusades [our word assassin is derived from the Arabic for "eater of hashish"].

There were fears of black jazz thugs with razors run amok. [for some reason the "razor" was the stereotype weapon of choice for the "colored", if you will].

I recall seeing a quote from a politician or maybe a newspaper editorial about pot given blacks the courage to look white women in the eye, or something to that effect.

So, it's hopped-up black men, violent & sexually aroused in the presence of young waiting-to-be-deflowered-when-drugged white women ... all to the soundtrack of that pernicious jazz.



You get all those elements in "Reefer Madness," where pot leads to violence when one guy tries to drug the "virgin" girl, they've got the piano going with jazz [which was a bit of code for blacks, like rock & roll was in the 50's].



The Mexican thing makes alot of sense, but there weren't many of them here. So, maybe what I heard was about why NY made it illegal.





Maybe every area has their own anti-pot Genesis.


When I worked in the internet world, this Mormon guy I knew said that the main reason it was banned was that run-of-the-mill Mormons were getting high and it pissed off the elders. [You know, his theory fits well with the Mexican theory ... maybe its a side reason, too. No idea.]
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