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#434685 - 07/06/09 05:16 PM 16 Performers Come Off of Quarantine TODAY!!
Desi Foxx Offline
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Registered: 07/31/08
Posts: 122
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
Yes, it's true. Today is the magical date that the 16 quarantined porn performers can go back to work as if nothing had happened to them. The CDC says there is a 5% false negative rate for the tests these performers have received to date. The CDC says it takes 6 months to drop that 5% false negative rate down to 1%. Do you really want to work with those odds?? People play the lottery everyday with less odds than that hoping to win big and get rich. Does the entire industry really want to play that game of russian roulette and take those odds to make a few thousand dollars??

I think as you have watched all this play out with the HIV outbreak in porn, you can see our safety was not taken into consideration when hiring us to work in Porn Valley. You can see Ms. Sharon Mitchell has very close ties to the industry. You have to ask yourself how a woman who got busted for prostitution just a few years ago could end up owning AIM Testing Centers and the laboratory that processed those tests. You have to ask yourself who really owns these companies. Sharon obviously has close ties to the porn industry in other ways besides these testing centers and laboratories.

Sharon Mitchell is the girlfriend of Nina Hartley, who I've often called the queen of porn. Nina's husband is the chairman of the board for AIM. This is just one example of how the elders of porn control what goes on in Porn Valley. They all control the testing process through their insistence that all performers test through the AIM system in order to work in Porn Valley. I've decided to list some of the issues that need to be dealt with before anymore new girls should be brought into Porn Valley. It's what should be done before these exposed performers can work again. It's really what should be done before anymore shooting is done in Porn Valley. I've said this many times. It ain't brain surgery going on in Porn Valley. It's just common sense to protect the workers in this industry.

o Stop production now and test every single worker in Porn Valley so we can start with a clean slate going forward.

o Effective immediately, there should be mandatory testing for all workers in porn, not just performers! This testing should be allowed at any accredited medical testing center and laboratory. The only way to assure compliance of proper reporting is to spread the testing to different facilities so no one person can decide who knows what when as the current situation with Sharon Mitchell being the Pope of Porn Testing and Reporting has proven how easy coverup and deception can occur.

o Testing should include HIV, Hep C, Syphilis, Gonnereah, Chlamydia and HPV on a monthly basis with weekly testing when there is an outbreak of any of these to knock it out quickly.

o Positive results of HIV, Hep C and Syphilis should result in a 6 month quarantine for all performers involved plus all other exposed performers regardless of level of exposure (2nd and 3rd generation is not enough). All industry workers should be notified immediately through approved media venues and by email of all outbreaks and given the number of people in quarantine. AIM had all our emails, they notify us of test results this way. They could've let us know there was an outbreak immediately through email blasting. All industry workers should also receive weekly updates on the progress of containment.

o Condoms should be mandatory for all scenes involving oral sex and all vaginal and anal intercourse. This cannot be voluntary because production companies will "blacklist" those performers who chose condoms! The industry has the software to remove the condom digitally, they can use that if so desired for their finished product.

o There should be an educational seminar or class that is mandatory to attend before getting into porn outlining the risks, going over what is acceptable at a set and what is not and what agents responsibilities are to their performers. A license should then be issued for the performer just as any other occupational license is given after this course has been taken. That would allow for better tracking of those performing in Porn Valley and they can use this for ID in their shoots. A photo should be included on this ID and all IDs and test results should be shown to each performer before any work begins on the set.

o All performers should be 21 years of age or older. I find it disgusting that due to the current age of 18 for consent to work in porn, these kids cannot drink alcohol but they can chose to work in porn which alters their life options forever!

o No females should be allowed to shoot while on their periods. This is a very hazardous common practice in the industry exposing everyone that works with these girls to a very high risk of contracting HIV, Hep C and/or Syphilis if these girls are diseased..

o All new performers, when entering the Biz and then on an annual basis, should have a background check done and no one with felony convictions of assault, theft, rape or any other sexually related charges should be able to work in the industry. That includes charges of illegal prostitution! If a performer is caught escorting illegally, they are out of porn!

o Agents cannot be talents. This is the biggest form of abuse an agent can exercise against their performers. A few months ago, I saw a photo in AVN Magazine of Derek Heys and Lisa Ann doing a young girl in a scene. The girl was on her back while Derek fucked her and Lisa Ann sat on her face. This is not acceptable for agents to be doing with the performers contracted through their agencies!

o Agents cannot charge performers kill fees unless a performer simply doesn't show up to a shoot scheduled for them. This charge essentially forces a performer to do a scene even if not comfortable with the type of scene, the company shooting it or the performers they have to work with. If you turn down a scene at LA Direct, they will charge you a $300 kill fee (Elli was charged twice) even if the scene is not theoretically scheduled yet. Their rule is "if I can schedule a scene for you, you must do the scene or pay this fee". That is a form of white slavery and must be stopped!

o All production companies should have a mandatory annual meeting with all employees to discuss sexual discrimination and harassment. This meeting should be mandatory and given by a third party to assure attendance and compliance with the material presented. This course should also be part of the mandatory class for new performers. This is no different than continuing educational requirements for any other industry where there are risks involved in your work!

o A hotline for abuse issues should be set up so that whisleblowers can safely and anonymously report such abuses. All reports should be investigated by a third party company and a formal report made on each incident. Performers currently have no means to report abuse or to seek damages for such abuses. A system for discipline progressing from warnings, fines and then loss of license to do business for all confirmed cases of abuse should be set up and adhered to no matter who the offender is.

o A commission should be set up to include members from each area of the industry and from the general public to meet weekly to go over industry issues, disease outbreaks and containment, deal with abuse reports and handing down penalties for abuse. The alternative to this commission is to bring in a union for the performers. TAKE YOUR PICK!

o A program for all industry workers that need rehabilitation, education, legal advise and contract negotiations or to leave the industry should be set up and funded by the agencies and production companies who bring them in and shoot them, their contributions to be determined by their profits. All fines for abuses would also go into this fund to help the victims of abuse in porn. The agencies who bring these workers into the industry and the production companies who shoot them should have a responsibility to these workers to be sure they are physically and mentally healthy, getting fair and eqitable contracts and they should be responsible for helping performers move back into the real world when they no longer want to use these workers.

I think that's a good start and would clean the industry up in a huge way. The main point here is these young people who get pulled into Porn Valley should be educated as to what they're getting into and what the ramifications are to doing porn. Knowledge is power!! For now, you all know who has the knowledge thus who has the power. Porn is an extreme industry. No one discounts that fact. It's why there's so much that needs to be done to be sure these performers are not victims but instead willing performers who made an educated decision to make this their career!

I'M TIRED OF HEARING HOW THE INDUSTRY CAN'T AFFORD TO PROVIDE SAFE AND EQUITABLE CONDITIONS FOR THE WORKERS. THIS IS A BILLIION DOLLAR A YEAR INDUSTRY. THEY CAN AFFORD ANYTHING THEY WANT!! THE PROBLEM IS THE WANT. THEY DON'T CARE. SOMEONE HAS TO MAKE THEM RESPONSIBLE! HIT THEIR BOTTOM LINES, I CAN GUARANTEE, THEY WILL CARE!!!!
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#434686 - 07/06/09 05:30 PM Re: 16 Performers Come Off of Quarantine TODAY!!
cqd Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 11/27/07
Posts: 4795
Someone should do something about everything, eh?

Can you tell me the names of any movies that have had condoms digitally removed from them? How much does that sort of post production add to costs?
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#434687 - 07/06/09 05:31 PM Re: 16 Performers Come Off of Quarantine TODAY!!
charin Offline
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Porn Jesus

Registered: 07/15/05
Posts: 5290
Loc: Dayton
I took one for the team here, and read all this. Ain't worth it.

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Condoms should be mandatory for all scenes involving oral sex and all vaginal and anal intercourse.




And I am no longer a customer.

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If a performer is caught escorting illegally, they are out of porn!




Yeah, no whores in porn.

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#434688 - 07/06/09 05:38 PM Re: 16 Performers Come Off of Quarantine TODAY!!
Vizzle Offline
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Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 3812
Loc: Neither here, nor there.
STFU Desi

What say do you have in any of this...and why all of the 'we' talk? Aren't you out of the industry (again) anyway?
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#434689 - 07/06/09 05:56 PM Re: 16 Performers Come Off of Quarantine TODAY!!
Jigaloo Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/17/06
Posts: 7863
Old rancid hag, can you post this a few more times? The first four times wasn't enough.
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#434691 - 07/06/09 06:14 PM Re: 16 Performers Come Off of Quarantine TODAY!!
Uomo Grassissimo!! Offline
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Registered: 04/14/06
Posts: 14755
Loc: Busy downloading [LEGALLY!]
Funny. I think I've seen THIS EXACT post elsewhere.




Maybe a longwinded homage to ThatWhatSheSaid.
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#434692 - 07/06/09 06:31 PM Re: 16 Performers Come Off of Quarantine TODAY!!
Brandon Lee Harrington Offline
AC Cream Wannabe

Registered: 08/16/06
Posts: 453
Loc: Las Vegas
What is your beef with AIM? You obviously dont understand how or why they operate. First of all AIM is a non profit, so if you dont like sharon mitchell, etc.take it up with them personally, but the fact that they are affiliated with AIM is not a relavant threat to the industry.

When AIM was founded they were the only outlet of their kind. It was designed especially for adult performers, because the tests they offer are more accurate than, tests traditionally offered elsewhere. Your suggestion, to accept any and all test is ludicrous, and would actually make the situation worse! It would become easier to fake tests, because no one wold recognize them, etc.

Even though I think everyone should go to the same place, performers already have the option, and do use it, to go to other places such as tts for testing.

Please post a link to your cdc report, so we can view it for ourselves, its probably referring to the hiv antibody test, and not the pcr-dna test that AIM uses.

Ive said it before and I'll say it again sex in the porn industry vs sex in the real world is 1000 times safer. Since there has only been 1 case of HIV, its extremely obvious, that the performer, got it from someone OUTSIDE of the industry. All of the performers that this person worked with were tested and ALL of them tested negative. If she got it from a performer, at least 1(the one she got it from) would have came back positive.

This industry does not need any more regulation, it does fine on its own.
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#434693 - 07/06/09 06:32 PM Re: 16 Performers Come Off of Quarantine TODAY!!
D.W. Offline
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Registered: 05/29/07
Posts: 136
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Performers currently have no means to report abuse or to seek damages for such abuses.




Because whores won't abuse that? I'm betting you're the type of person that "falls" down a store and then threatens a law suit.

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#434694 - 07/06/09 06:53 PM Re: 16 Performers Come Off of Quarantine TODAY!!
XPT RIP Offline
AC Cream Wannabe

Registered: 03/05/07
Posts: 529
you're nuts lady, but you're daughter's a piece of poon so i'll let it slide.

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#434695 - 07/06/09 07:14 PM Re: 16 Performers Come Off of Quarantine TODAY!!
Colonel Klink Offline
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Registered: 04/30/09
Posts: 178
Loc: Luft Stalag 13
All jobs have risks, some more than others, people are injured or killed on the job everday. After reading this post it reminded me of the rants of my beloved Fuehrer and it is good to know the Nazis are back...Sex Nazis that is... Heil Desi.


Edited by Colonel Klink (07/06/09 07:16 PM)

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#434696 - 07/06/09 07:39 PM Re: 16 Performers Come Off of Quarantine TODAY!!
Cum Stains Offline
Gay For Pay

Registered: 01/26/06
Posts: 1058
Loc: Keen for Peen
All this energy Desi has on trying to fix all the problems in Porn Valley, if only she would have put it towards the pta and raising Elli.
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#434697 - 07/06/09 07:45 PM Re: 16 Performers Come Off of Quarantine TODAY!!
Mark_J Offline
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Registered: 10/02/08
Posts: 2058
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#434699 - 07/07/09 08:16 AM Re: 16 Performers Come Off of Quarantine TODAY!!
christianxxx Offline
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Registered: 07/05/05
Posts: 2134
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
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You can see Ms. Sharon Mitchell has very close ties to the industry. You have to ask yourself how a woman who got busted for prostitution just a few years ago could end up owning AIM Testing Centers and the laboratory that processed those tests.




Um, you are a prostitute as well as you have so readily stated. How is that some sort of negative in your eyes? I don't get it.

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Sharon Mitchell is the girlfriend of Nina Hartley, who I've often called the queen of porn. Nina's husband is the chairman of the board for AIM. This is just one example of how the elders of porn control what goes on in Porn Valley. They all control the testing process through their insistence that all performers test through the AIM system in order to work in Porn Valley.




of course they run it, who better to run our industry than people who have intimate and extensive knowledge of how things are in this biz.

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o Stop production now and test every single worker in Porn Valley so we can start with a clean slate going forward.





not a bad idea in theory, but no one is going to stop production and who is going to pay for everyone's test? the performers themselves? don't be silly.

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o Effective immediately, there should be mandatory testing for all workers in porn, not just performers! This testing should be allowed at any accredited medical testing center and laboratory. The only way to assure compliance of proper reporting is to spread the testing to different facilities so no one person can decide who knows what when as the current situation with Sharon Mitchell being the Pope of Porn Testing and Reporting has proven how easy coverup and deception can occur.




am i missing something? what does the test of a lighting guy have anything to do with anything? And you keep going on and on about a coverup by Sharon Mitchell. You do realize that she can't tell everyone the names of the performers BECAUSE DARREN JAMES SUED HER AND WON FOR RELEASING HIS NAME.

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o Testing should include HIV, Hep C, Syphilis, Gonnereah, Chlamydia and HPV on a monthly basis with weekly testing when there is an outbreak of any of these to knock it out quickly.




i agree totally.

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o Positive results of HIV, Hep C and Syphilis should result in a 6 month quarantine for all performers involved plus all other exposed performers regardless of level of exposure (2nd and 3rd generation is not enough). All industry workers should be notified immediately through approved media venues and by email of all outbreaks and given the number of people in quarantine. AIM had all our emails, they notify us of test results this way. They could've let us know there was an outbreak immediately through email blasting. All industry workers should also receive weekly updates on the progress of containment.





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o Condoms should be mandatory for all scenes involving oral sex and all vaginal and anal intercourse. This cannot be voluntary because production companies will "blacklist" those performers who chose condoms! The industry has the software to remove the condom digitally, they can use that if so desired for their finished product.




thats just retarded. and your use of the word mandatory gets more and more ridiculous. porn is and always will be the haven for the rebel. someone will figure out a way to shoot non condom scenes and make a boatload of money doing it. Get this through your skull - nothing in this industry is ever 100 percent pervasive. There will ALWAYS be someone who in non-compliant, because they make money in this non-compliance.

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o There should be an educational seminar or class that is mandatory to attend before getting into porn outlining the risks, going over what is acceptable at a set and what is not and what agents responsibilities are to their performers.




um, there is a video at AIM that all new performers watch before their first test.

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A license should then be issued for the performer just as any other occupational license is given after this course has been taken. That would allow for better tracking of those performing in Porn Valley and they can use this for ID in their shoots. A photo should be included on this ID and all IDs and test results should be shown to each performer before any work begins on the set.





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o All performers should be 21 years of age or older. I find it disgusting that due to the current age of 18 for consent to work in porn, these kids cannot drink alcohol but they can chose to work in porn which alters their life options forever!




but you are okay with sending them off to war to fight and get killed for our country? please. 18 is a legal adult, let them make money like anyone else.

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o No females should be allowed to shoot while on their periods. This is a very hazardous common practice in the industry exposing everyone that works with these girls to a very high risk of contracting HIV, Hep C and/or Syphilis if these girls are diseased..




thats not a bad idea actually.

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o All new performers, when entering the Biz and then on an annual basis, should have a background check done and no one with felony convictions of assault, theft, rape or any other sexually related charges should be able to work in the industry. That includes charges of illegal prostitution! If a performer is caught escorting illegally, they are out of porn!




thats an unbelievably self serving comment considering what you are doing now. seriously? lol

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o Agents cannot be talents. This is the biggest form of abuse an agent can exercise against their performers. A few months ago, I saw a photo in AVN Magazine of Derek Heys and Lisa Ann doing a young girl in a scene. The girl was on her back while Derek fucked her and Lisa Ann sat on her face. This is not acceptable for agents to be doing with the performers contracted through their agencies!




you just eliminated every agent except for Spiegler. Nice.

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o Agents cannot charge performers kill fees unless a performer simply doesn't show up to a shoot scheduled for them. This charge essentially forces a performer to do a scene even if not comfortable with the type of scene, the company shooting it or the performers they have to work with. If you turn down a scene at LA Direct, they will charge you a $300 kill fee (Elli was charged twice) even if the scene is not theoretically scheduled yet. Their rule is "if I can schedule a scene for you, you must do the scene or pay this fee". That is a form of white slavery and must be stopped!




she evidently didn't read her contract. when they call you and tell you that you have a shoot booked for whatever day, when you answer the phone and acknowledge that they booked the shoot, you are giving your guarantee to show up for that shoot.

o All production companies should have a mandatory annual meeting with all employees to discuss sexual discrimination and harassment. This meeting should be mandatory and given by a third party to assure attendance and compliance with the material presented. This course should also be part of the mandatory class for new performers. This is no different than continuing educational requirements for any other industry where there are risks involved in your work!

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o A hotline for abuse issues should be set up so that whisleblowers can safely and anonymously report such abuses. All reports should be investigated by a third party company and a formal report made on each incident. Performers currently have no means to report abuse or to seek damages for such abuses. A system for discipline progressing from warnings, fines and then loss of license to do business for all confirmed cases of abuse should be set up and adhered to no matter who the offender is.




sure you do, you don't have to be in this business, its strictly voluntary. and remember our biz is on the fringe of the law and justice system, we don't exactly want more government scrutiny, we want less.

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o A commission should be set up to include members from each area of the industry and from the general public to meet weekly to go over industry issues, disease outbreaks and containment, deal with abuse reports and handing down penalties for abuse. The alternative to this commission is to bring in a union for the performers. TAKE YOUR PICK!




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o A program for all industry workers that need rehabilitation, education, legal advise and contract negotiations or to leave the industry should be set up and funded by the agencies and production companies who bring them in and shoot them, their contributions to be determined by their profits. All fines for abuses would also go into this fund to help the victims of abuse in porn. The agencies who bring these workers into the industry and the production companies who shoot them should have a responsibility to these workers to be sure they are physically and mentally healthy, getting fair and eqitable contracts and they should be responsible for helping performers move back into the real world when they no longer want to use these workers.




i have thought about this one for a long time and its a great idea, but you are forgetting that most girls get into this business because they have no alternative in life because of drug, financial, educational, marital, emotional problems BEFORE porn. Why should porn shoulder the financial responsibility of curing pre-existing conditions?

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I think that's a good start and would clean the industry up in a huge way. The main point here is these young people who get pulled into Porn Valley should be educated as to what they're getting into and what the ramifications are to doing porn. Knowledge is power!! For now, you all know who has the knowledge thus who has the power. Porn is an extreme industry. No one discounts that fact. It's why there's so much that needs to be done to be sure these performers are not victims but instead willing performers who made an educated decision to make this their career!

I'M TIRED OF HEARING HOW THE INDUSTRY CAN'T AFFORD TO PROVIDE SAFE AND EQUITABLE CONDITIONS FOR THE WORKERS. THIS IS A BILLIION DOLLAR A YEAR INDUSTRY. THEY CAN AFFORD ANYTHING THEY WANT!! THE PROBLEM IS THE WANT. THEY DON'T CARE. SOMEONE HAS TO MAKE THEM RESPONSIBLE! HIT THEIR BOTTOM LINES, I CAN GUARANTEE, THEY WILL CARE!!!!


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#434700 - 07/07/09 10:18 AM Re: 16 Performers Come Off of Quarantine TODAY!!
Barry the Pirate Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 12/09/08
Posts: 8433
Loc: Great Pacific Northwest
To make "mandatory" rules is simply pissing in the wind. The fact is that anybody with a vidcam, a hacked editing suite and some willing participants can shoot, edit and distribute porn. Porn Valley is a location, and there's no rule book that says scenes have to be shot there. If a company chooses not to belong to your governing board, which would be voluntary, who would stop them? If it were state mandated, who would stop them from moving their productions to Nevada or Arizona or Connecticut or North Dakota? The only way your governing body would even begin to work would be for it to federally mandated. Good luck on that one. But let's assume for a sec that the Fed mandates your governing body. What keeps companies from moving to Mexico or Canada or Europe? Not a damn thing.

Let's be honest for a sec. For how many years has the industry skirted the bounds of legality? For all the hype of Vivid's big building and clean cut image, they are the exception not the rule. Most companies are run by and employ young people who really aren't bothered by the rule of law. We're talking about a dirty business that eats people up and spits them out, Nina Hartley aside.

So, Des, I'm curious. Who would run this governing body of yours? Would I be correct to guess it would be a well respected industry elder statesperson? Such as yourself? I ask this because I have to wonder why this has become your cross to bear. I'm not saying this to you in my normal "bash Desi" style. I'm saying it because you're little more than a blip in the history of the industry. Sure, you were the 1st mother- daughter team and all that, but your star shone really only a short time. And frankly, you have a bit of a get rich quick scheme mentality. I just have to wonder if you're simply trying to position yourself for a new career.

I'm sure I'm in the wrong and for a change your moivations are purely altruistic as always.

Barry
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#434701 - 07/07/09 11:17 AM Re: 16 Performers Come Off of Quarantine TODAY!!
cameronkeys Offline
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Registered: 12/24/07
Posts: 997
Loc: FL
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o Stop production now and test every single worker in Porn Valley so we can start with a clean slate going forward.



Yeah thats a great idea. Because we can all afford that. We get tested every 28 days..I have been tested in the past cpl weeks and everyone working has been tested since the outbreak occurred. We cant get tested every day...it just isnt feasible. Unfortunately its the risk you take in this industry. Since your customers dont get tested at all..condoms or no condoms...my risk of disease is less then yours. Clean up your own job before you worry about one you arent a part of anymore.

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o Effective immediately, there should be mandatory testing for all workers in porn, not just performers!


wtf??Because we are now controlling what people do in their personal lives?? GREAT idea.

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o Testing should include HIV, Hep C, Syphilis, Gonnereah, Chlamydia and HPV on a monthly basis with weekly testing when there is an outbreak of any of these to knock it out quickly.




whos going to pay for weekly tests?? Dennis? lol And everything but HPV (since there IS no test for men at all) is offered with full testing panel.

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o Condoms should be mandatory for all scenes involving oral sex and all vaginal and anal intercourse.



great idea...will never happen
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o There should be an educational seminar or class that is mandatory to attend before getting into porn outlining the risks, going over what is acceptable at a set and what is not and what agents responsibilities are to their performers.


or adults can take responsibility for themSELVES. Amazing thought I know.

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o All performers should be 21 years of age or older. I find it disgusting that due to the current age of 18 for consent to work in porn, these kids cannot drink alcohol but they can chose to work in porn which alters their life options forever!



I guess we should raise the driving age,military age,etc...as well...

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o Agents cannot charge performers kill fees unless a performer simply doesn't show up to a shoot scheduled for them.



I've never had anyone charge ME a kill fee. But then again I always show up for shoots I've accepted.

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o A commission should be set up to include members from each area of the industry and from the general public to meet weekly to go over industry issues, disease outbreaks and containment, deal with abuse reports and handing down penalties for abuse. The alternative to this commission is to bring in a union for the performers. TAKE YOUR PICK!




NO UNION. That would completely fuck up being an independent contractor.Unions are a BAD idea for the adult industry

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o A program for all industry workers that need rehabilitation, education, legal advise and contract negotiations or to leave the industry should be set up and funded by the agencies and production companies who bring them in and shoot them, their contributions to be determined by their profits. All fines for abuses would also go into this fund to help the victims of abuse in porn. The agencies who bring these workers into the industry and the production companies who shoot them should have a responsibility to these workers to be sure they are physically and mentally healthy, getting fair and eqitable contracts and they should be responsible for helping performers move back into the real world when they no longer want to use these workers.




Isnt that Shelly Lubbens lifes work?
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#434702 - 07/07/09 01:29 PM Re: 16 Performers Come Off of Quarantine TODAY!!
Mark_J Offline
Pervert

Registered: 10/02/08
Posts: 2058
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o Stop production now and test every single worker in Porn Valley so we can start with a clean slate going forward.




Yeah thats a great idea. Because we can all afford that. We get tested every 28 days..I have been tested in the past cpl weeks and everyone working has been tested since the outbreak occurred. We cant get tested every day...it just isnt feasible. Unfortunately its the risk you take in this industry. Since your customers dont get tested at all..condoms or no condoms...my risk of disease is less then yours. Clean up your own job before you worry about one you arent a part of anymore.




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#434703 - 07/07/09 03:34 PM Re: 16 Performers Come Off of Quarantine TODAY!!
TheBillyvassi Offline
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Registered: 10/26/07
Posts: 538
Loc: Canada
What troubles me is that some people think AIM or testing in general is actually 100% safe, transmission of hpv, herpes and many other common stds are almost unavoidable in this context.

Unless a full DNA screening takes place , every shoot every time, herpes does not show up on screens sometimes.
Nor does HPV , alot of stds do not show up unless the individual is in an active outbreak.

AIM is used solely on the basis of liability, if you think otherwise your fooling yourselves.
proof is in the hilarious 2 week rule.

go get tested on a wed, thur you get your clean papers, friday your blowing half the starting lineup of the Lakers..sunday one of them is fucking you up the ass..tuesday you shoot...
fucking use your heads

Time to come to terms that the industry your in will fuck up some people and there is nothing you can do about it.
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#434704 - 07/07/09 03:36 PM Re: 16 Performers Come Off of Quarantine TODAY!!
freestylah Offline
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Registered: 12/28/07
Posts: 4856
Loc: The 4th International
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What keeps companies from moving to Mexico or Canada or Europe? Not a damn thing.




Exactly!

For rent:

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Rate to be agreed.
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#434705 - 07/07/09 07:22 PM Re: 16 Performers Come Off of Quarantine TODAY!!
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Registered: 01/26/09
Posts: 898
I agree with:

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o Testing should include HIV, Hep C, Syphilis, Gonnereah, Chlamydia and HPV on a monthly basis with weekly testing when there is an outbreak of any of these to knock it out quickly.




and also the email blasting idea.

It's also a good idea to tell girls not to work on their periods, but it would be a hard rule to enforce.

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#434706 - 07/07/09 09:44 PM Re: 16 Performers Come Off of Quarantine TODAY!!
Nate Liquor Offline
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Registered: 06/12/09
Posts: 1
I'm so sick of hearing morons who have never sat at an editing station argue that "condoms can be digitally removed in post."
This is bullshit. Yes, the technology exists. No, it's not easy or affordable.
It wouldn't just double the budget of a standard movie, it would multiply it by 100.

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#434707 - 07/07/09 09:49 PM Re: 16 Performers Come Off of Quarantine TODAY!!
lance69 Offline
Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer

Registered: 02/18/05
Posts: 1138
Loc: British Colombia
Lol, no shit...it's not like doing the same in photoshop...
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#434708 - 07/07/09 10:04 PM Re: 16 Performers Come Off of Quarantine TODAY!!
Visaman Offline
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Registered: 01/08/09
Posts: 94
Quote:

What keeps companies from moving to Mexico or Canada or Europe? Not a damn thing.

Barry




The Canadian Government will give tax breaks to porn producers, if they call it an art film, Bubbles Galore, with Nina Hartley comes to mind.

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#434709 - 07/07/09 10:18 PM Re: 16 Performers Come Off of Quarantine TODAY!!
Barry the Pirate Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 12/09/08
Posts: 8433
Loc: Great Pacific Northwest
Quote:

Quote:

What keeps companies from moving to Mexico or Canada or Europe? Not a damn thing.

Barry




The Canadian Government will give tax breaks to porn producers, if they call it an art film, Bubbles Galore, with Nina Hartley comes to mind.




Plus the weed's cheap and plentiful. C'mon, everybody!! Northward ho!!

Teehee. I said "ho".

Barry
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#434710 - 07/08/09 03:02 AM Re: 16 Performers Come Off of Quarantine TODAY!!
electrostatic Offline
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Posts: 4257
Loc: Counting Kisses
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Teehee. I said "ho".



You, sir, you are all mermaid, no pirate! Fishy, fishy! Lay off the seaweed. Thanks.<>X
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