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#430151 - 06/14/09 11:51 AM
Can Someone Help Me Understand AIM Testing?
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Ok, this is a serious post. I have talent I need to film and I'm part of a husband/wife duo who is expanding to include other women for our site. We didn't need AIM testing before because we're a monogamous couple. Now, we have several new girls we are shooting and need to protect ourselves from all the scary stuff floating around out there.  Here are the questions: 1) AIM uses a viral level test for HIV. This has a result called "undetectable" which can still allow HIV virus to be present, even if it shows up as "undetectable." How is this safe testing for HIV prevention? 2) We aren't going to be shooting double anal or bareback or anything like that... in fact, we plan to have some boring, vanilla porn with handjobs and blowjobs and that's the extent of it with these other girls. Given these tame acts, what are the diseases we have to worry about if one of these girls does a blowjob or eats out the wife in the couple? Sorry to ask such a stupid question as "what STDs can be transmitted from oral sex", but everything I read says something different. Some say "nothing", while others say "everything." Any help? How do we go about this testing stuff? Thanks.
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#430152 - 06/14/09 11:59 AM
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Gay For Pay
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Oral sex? Off the top of my head...herpes..gonorrhea, chlamydia, HIV.....in fact..most STD's can be passed orally. Make sure everyone involved gets full panel tested.
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#430153 - 06/14/09 12:45 PM
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Thanks... I'll be sure to get us all panel tested.
But what about the incubation period? Isn't it 2 weeks? I really can't be sure my talent hasn't been out catching diseases for the 2 weeks AIM can't test for, right?
I guess what I'm asking is: Is there always a risk of infection, even if you have everyone tested?
Again, I'm sorry to be such an idiot here. I've just read too much stuff online and it all seems to contradict. I mean seriously... I've seen sites with MDs who say not to worry about oral sex. That's where I got confused.
Specific STD Window Periods
Gonorrhea
The incubation period for Gonorrhea is usually 2 to 7 days.
Chlamydia
The incubation period for Chlamydia is usually 2 to 6 weeks, but can be longer.
Syphilis
The incubation period for Syphilis is usually 10 to 90 days.
HIV
The window period for HIV is usually 2 weeks to 3 months, but could be up to 6 months.
Hepatitis A
The incubation period for Hepatitis A is 15 to 50 days.
Hepatitis B
The incubation period for Hepatitis B is usually 45-180 days, with an average of 60 to 90 days.
Hepatitis C
The incubation period for Hepatitis C ranges from 2 weeks to 6 months - commonly, 6 to 9 weeks.
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#430154 - 06/14/09 01:15 PM
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Gay For Pay
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Loc: FL
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Industry standard for testing is every 28 days. Tests expire after 30 days. And yes,people can catch something and spread it on within that time. Most of the time they dont even know they are doing so since it often takes more then 28 days for symptoms to present themselves.
Unfortunately...thats the chance you take in this industry. Condoms will help a bit,but some things can be passed even WITH condoms. Plus...condom scenes dont sell nearly as well.
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#430155 - 06/14/09 02:55 PM
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Bottom line is the bottom line....and then again there actually is NO bottom line…. Some companies "go by the month" Month is 28 days, 29 days 30 days or 31 days then that’s what it is..... Next one for you is testing or condoms it doesn’t matter..... Sell or don’t sell as far product....neither one remedy as we all know is bulletproof..... Human error in testing and condoms that simply break are merely two of over a thousand of "what if" style scenarios. So it doesn’t matter if you go to- AIM- http://www.aim-med.orgOr TTS- http://www.talenttestingservice.comSHIT HAPPENS.....hell you may just get hit by a bus today......weirder things have happened.
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#430156 - 06/14/09 06:12 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 04/02/09
Posts: 1541
Loc: Mississippi
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Any help? How do we go about this testing stuff?
Thanks.
There are two basic approaches to this question:
The first is to feel young and invincible, stay intoxicated, engage in high risk sexual practices, trust your life to former prostitutes and whores to oversee your health care records and trust in the power of statistical probability and the reassuring comfort of blind ignorance to protect you.
On the other hand, what I would recommend is looking for the nearest public health clinic that provides sexual education and testing services and is affiliated with a large, well respected, well funded university medical center and staffed full time by physicians who specialize in infectious diseases. I would make an appointment in advance with a physician (not walk in to see the nurse), show up early, dress and act like you are a human being, talk honestly and plainly, pay all your bills on time or early, and once you develop a relationship, ask if you can see the Physician in his or her private clinic on a regular basis in the future. Your geographic location may make this difficult, but not impossible. The benefit is not only better care before you get infected, but better care after you get infected and a relationship with somebody you can trust to answer your questions.
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#430157 - 06/15/09 05:07 PM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 05/12/08
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On the other hand, what I would recommend is looking for the nearest public health clinic that provides sexual education and testing services and is affiliated with a large, well respected, well funded university medical center and staffed full time by physicians who specialize in infectious diseases. I would make an appointment in advance with a physician (not walk in to see the nurse), show up early, dress and act like you are a human being, talk honestly and plainly, pay all your bills on time or early, and once you develop a relationship, ask if you can see the Physician in his or her private clinic on a regular basis in the future. Your geographic location may make this difficult, but not impossible. The benefit is not only better care before you get infected, but better care after you get infected and a relationship with somebody you can trust to answer your questions.
Sounds like something from a Montel Williams show
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#430158 - 06/15/09 05:34 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 04/02/09
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Quote:
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On the other hand, what I would recommend is looking for the nearest public health clinic that provides sexual education and testing services and is affiliated with a large, well respected, well funded university medical center and staffed full time by physicians who specialize in infectious diseases. I would make an appointment in advance with a physician (not walk in to see the nurse), show up early, dress and act like you are a human being, talk honestly and plainly, pay all your bills on time or early, and once you develop a relationship, ask if you can see the Physician in his or her private clinic on a regular basis in the future. Your geographic location may make this difficult, but not impossible. The benefit is not only better care before you get infected, but better care after you get infected and a relationship with somebody you can trust to answer your questions.
Sounds like something from a Montel Williams show
Uhm, I guess I'll have to take your word for that.
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#430159 - 06/15/09 11:45 PM
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Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 03/29/08
Posts: 1991
Loc: colorado
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AIM is a mandated protocol
you COULD get hit by a bus
you CANT live life in a hazmat suit
suck it up
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#430160 - 06/16/09 12:02 AM
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AIM is a mandated protocol
pretty sweetie.....a mandated protocol or mandatory for employment is simple not true......unless they snuck a LAW in with some others.....
it is an industry standard because no one has ever challenged it and they roll over and play dead when someone askes then to do somphin.....it is however NOT a LAW!
example of an actual REAL LAW...is that you have to have a "permit" to shoot whatever type of film in LA.....that IS a LAW......and cops have busted sets before just on that law alone.
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#430161 - 06/16/09 03:12 PM
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Hey, this is a good thread. Thanks everybody. I was reading more about this online and I saw some article about Belladonna's (remember Belladonna?) policy of requiring her co-stars get their tests 3 days prior to the shoot. Here's the article: It's an interesting Village Voice read... http://www.villagevoice.com/2007-09-04/columns/danger-on-the-set/What do you guys think of that? I'd think doing the testing that way would do a better job than every month. I mean how many dudes/girls/trannies/horses/dogs can one of my hired girls sleep with in 3 days?? Ok, don't answer that! ha ha ha 
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#430162 - 06/16/09 03:14 PM
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Oh yeah... special thanks to Mr. Whormonger for helping me realize there are some odds at work here and a balance to be had. I was thinking about how to totally eliminate the risks. His post made me realize you can't, but you can manage it pretty well... I think?
Good ideas about the local clinic too..
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#430165 - 06/17/09 03:48 AM
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Porn Jesus
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Cheap Skank wrote: Quote:
I'd be happy to get re-tested any time...IF the person requesting it paid for it. Otherwise..I'm not wasting my own money when I have a recent clean test.
Your definition of 'recent' may not be the same as other people's definition. For all I know, you run around with 34-year old test results, while your snatch and other orifices are slowly rotting away.
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#430166 - 06/17/09 08:22 AM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 06/16/09
Posts: 39
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Take me to your leader. I will be making demands, as soon as I receive orders from my leader.
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#430167 - 06/17/09 08:35 AM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 06/16/09
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Whether my team and I decide to pillage your industry and take your women as trophy slaves, I will soon let you know. We may also settle for a cash money settlements. To be continued.....please take to your leader, Sir longhair.
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#430169 - 06/17/09 10:36 AM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 06/16/09
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Who are you working for, Ms. Keys? Do you think I'd be as stupid as to share classified information with you? My leader may like to have a talk with you. I will let you know.
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#430170 - 06/17/09 10:54 AM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 06/16/09
Posts: 39
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While I await my master's orders, will you be as so kind as to converse with me, Ms. Keys.
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#430171 - 06/17/09 11:00 AM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 06/16/09
Posts: 39
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Ms. Keys, if you have any demands, we'd like to consolidate them with our demands. State your purpose.
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#430173 - 06/17/09 12:51 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Cameron, I think it's Donny Long's gf crying for help in a secret code.
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#430174 - 06/17/09 12:55 PM
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Anonymous
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Cameron, I think it's Donny Long's gf crying for help in a secret code.
STOP! YOUR KILLING ME!!!!
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#430176 - 06/17/09 01:17 PM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 06/16/09
Posts: 39
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Good day, my lady. So what is the purpose of your AIM questioning?
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#430177 - 06/17/09 01:22 PM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 06/16/09
Posts: 39
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If it is what I believe this string has been started for, I hereby place my first claim on this issue for my leader. Any further demands, must come to us for consolidation purposes. There is strength in numbers, madame.
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#430178 - 06/17/09 01:29 PM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 06/16/09
Posts: 39
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Hear ye, hear ye. By orders of my lord, the Queen of the Damned, I hereby declare any demands for booty and the such, subservient first to our 100% claim. My lord would like to offer franchise opportunities in exchange for any claim you may so kindly forward to our loyal steward and gate keeper, Nbdy move Nbdy gets hurt.
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#430179 - 06/17/09 05:41 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/01/08
Posts: 9782
Loc: Hillbilly Holler
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You .....are fucking nuts ! and not in a good way !!!
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#430180 - 06/17/09 05:56 PM
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Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 03/29/08
Posts: 1991
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lol
what happened here?
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#430182 - 06/17/09 06:06 PM
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Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 03/29/08
Posts: 1991
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lol
i mean with the alien guy?
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#430183 - 06/17/09 06:55 PM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 06/16/09
Posts: 39
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Mi lady, the Queen of the Damned, is soon about to hold a council on this great stage, if so be that her royal wishes and demands. The date is forthcoming (excuse me if anyone found that offensive), so please share this most royal wish to all castle wenches and the like peasants of this wretched state. Good day. See how the sun shines off my sword?
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#430184 - 06/18/09 09:13 PM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 06/16/09
Posts: 39
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From today's news, peasants.
Diane Duke, executive director of the Free Speech Coalition, a porn industry advocacy group, disputed the AIDS Healthcare Foundation's arguments.
"Currently, we are not required to have condoms on sets," she said. "We know that government regulation does not work, and the industry's self-regulation has worked and is working very well."
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#430186 - 06/18/09 10:25 PM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 06/16/09
Posts: 39
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Will someone please explain how that mumbling idiot of your counsel that I just quoated, above, understands the procedures for sucking horse dick on camera? Is anyone coming down off of any non prescribed medication? Has anyone checked into a cash money reimbursement system, yet? Get it? Idiot fools, Gia, would you like to submit a claim? Or are they sending you to come with a white flag and my booty.
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#430188 - 06/19/09 12:01 PM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 06/16/09
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Excuse my regression, you heathen. Standing my post here on your forum, one begins thinking as you do. According to my duke, the Honorable Lord Windsor VII, your pathetic mosh-pit pillages over $13 billion per year driven by a piddly 11000 annual scenes with an equally astonishing mere 1200 castle wenches. According to our statisticians, a wench rakes in 10 million dollars. Then why are so many living in poverty posting notes on billboards? Just polite conversation Dear Sir. As await mi lady's orders.
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#430189 - 06/19/09 01:30 PM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 06/16/09
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Hear ye, Hear ye, by orders of my ladi, the Queen of the Damned, I hereby declare the following as ratified on this great day of the year of my lord, MMIX.
No ransom nor booty will be taken as consideration for any potential bribery, which is hereby, now, duly considered punishable.
Duly ratified by her court in the year of my lord, MMIX, all claims subordinate to her first and only claim, I stand my post and await further instructions.
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#430190 - 06/19/09 01:35 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Don't you have some Gorean chat room to spam?
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#430191 - 06/19/09 01:44 PM
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#430193 - 06/19/09 03:49 PM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 06/16/09
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You idiot fools. You will never learn. Now, go fetch me some fire. And a good whore, maybe Ms. Gordan would like to swallow some facts instead of a mouth full of your lies. Show some respect for a nobleman.
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#430194 - 06/20/09 06:00 AM
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Porn Jesus
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Your father is a hamster and your mother smells of elderberries. Now go away or I will taunt you a second time.
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#430195 - 06/20/09 10:42 AM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 06/16/09
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Hear ye, hear ye, by order of mi lady, mi lord, The Queen of the Damned, she hereby declares previous castle wench agreements voidable due to noble territory laws and systems not followed by the pond scum of your counsel and "self-regulation" (HAHA!). Our noble Queen hereby declares that each castle wenches share of the $13 billion in annual sales shall be divided equally amongst all castle wenches, current and retired, and shall be divided upon the terms of her upcoming orders. Furthermore, the 11000 annual scenes your industry produces with a mere 1200 castle wenches, will go into strict control due to agreement amendments requiring royalties paid to castle wenches for downloads and streaming and the such. Hear ye, hear ye, all claims subordinate to the claimes of my lord, mi ladi, The Queen of the Damned, this great law made in the year of our Queen MMIX
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#430197 - 06/20/09 05:20 PM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 06/16/09
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Dear sir, I am protected by God from the evil snares and wickedness of the devil, as well as here by authority of my lord, mi ladi, The Queen of the Damned.
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#430198 - 06/21/09 07:21 PM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
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Dear noblemen, castlewenches, and those coming off of methamphetimines, by orders of my lady, my lord, The Honorable Queen of the Damned in this great year of MMIX, I hereby declare any attempts at red-herring and the such punishable by anal copulation at %1500 per scene, of which will be used to generate approximately $10 millions dollars of which you will see none, until the time that my great lady, mi lord, The Honorable Queen of the Damned, decides to incinerate literally the server.
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#430199 - 06/22/09 10:24 AM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 06/16/09
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Let's see for all you math wizards out there and let's not forget of course, those of you coming down off of meth.
$13 billion ANNUAL (not anal) dollars generated by the porn industry DIVIDED BY 1200 porn stars who generate these approximate 11000 scenes. I calculate that each pornstar should be paid about $10million dollars per year. Maybe you guys could switch off, whereby the castle wench gets $10 million YEAR 1, then you guys could get it the next year, and so on. That is all, carry on, u idiot pond scum.
And for all you illumethatis out there, if each scene is grossing your industry over $1million dollars per scene (and those are the estimates based on reported dollars. God knows alot of your porn dollars go unreported in your terrible cash accounting system), is it fair to only pay a castle wench a maximum of $1500? How do you do it? $1,500 vs. $1,000,000. I included ZEROS in case any of you were from Budapest, the idiot enslavers who fucked up your industry.
Please provide your insurer's contact information, as well as FaFarosyes E&O insurance policy info, as a class action lawsuit is about to be dropped by Local 69.
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#430201 - 06/22/09 11:04 AM
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Porn Jesus
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Quote:
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...by orders of my lady, my lord, The Honorable Queen...
Who is this gay hermaphrodite? 
He just lost his summer job at Medieval Times.
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