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#37743 - 07/15/04 06:08 AM Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
smutspov Offline
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Sheesh, does this turkey have an ego problem or what? He can barely act, rap,& be black. Has he done 1 decent flick? MIB 1&2 were crapola, his Ali performance was disgraceful & all the other movies he plays the Fresh Prince thinking he can act his way out of garbage bag.
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#37744 - 07/15/04 07:28 AM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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Sheesh, does this turkey have an ego problem or what? He can barely act, rap,& be black. Has he done 1 decent flick? MIB 1&2 were crapola, his Ali performance was disgraceful & all the other movies he plays the Fresh Prince thinking he can act his way out of garbage bag.




Well, I am white, but I would say that he is not an uncle tom, just a man trying to make it in the world, & doing quite well at it. But, hey, everyone is entitled to his own opinion.
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#37745 - 07/15/04 07:33 AM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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I am hoping that I, Robot will be decent. There hasn't been any decent Scifi out in a while.

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#37746 - 07/15/04 07:42 AM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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Can't think of the last really good sci-fi flick, but so far the robots I see in the commercial look cheezy as hell. I wish Hollywood would quit relying on lame comp effects.
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#37747 - 07/15/04 02:06 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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There was of course a much better Ali bio-pic back in the 1970s. With an ego the size of several midwestern states, Ali would entrust the starring role to no one other than himself:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076111/
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#37748 - 07/15/04 03:36 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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Yeah, that one was pretty good... Ali lookin' all shaky at this years MLB All-Star Game was cooler than Will Smith'll ever be. Plus, the only way the Rotten Prince resembles Ali is in the ego dept, but at least Ali earned the right to call himself "the Greatest."
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#37749 - 07/15/04 08:30 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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The best line in The Greatest was when they were planning Ali's comeback fight against Jerry Quarry. I can only really remember the last line, but it went something like:

Angelo Dundee: "He's big. He's a contendah."

Ali: "And... hey, he's white!"

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#37750 - 07/16/04 02:27 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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I liked Enemy of the State with Will S. and I Robot has gotten some positive reviews for his performance.

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#37751 - 07/16/04 05:35 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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I remember when Ali came out he really thought he was a boxer.5 months of training for a movie role,does not make you a boxer. What a fucking ego.
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#37752 - 07/16/04 05:38 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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I remember when Ali came out he really thought he was a boxer.5 months of training for a movie role,does not make you a boxer. What a fucking ego.
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Good point Chico, and what is his ego based on? Not a great rapper or actor
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#37753 - 07/16/04 10:48 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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I remember when Ali came out he really thought he was a boxer.5 months of training for a movie role,does not make you a boxer. What a fucking ego.





Mickey Roarke Disease, I think it's called.
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#37754 - 07/17/04 02:27 AM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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I remember when Ali came out he really thought he was a boxer.5 months of training for a movie role,does not make you a boxer. What a fucking ego.





Mickey Roarke Disease, I think it's called.




You hit the nail right on the head there!
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#37755 - 07/18/04 06:42 AM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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What's even more sad, the guy thinks he's an actor. Don't get me started on his
(c)rap.
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#37756 - 07/18/04 07:32 AM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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I forgot about his shitty music . I wonder what DJ Jazzy Jeff really thinks of him?
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#37757 - 07/18/04 08:22 AM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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He is the Fresh Prince of that Tv show nothing more or less, his movies are Ok but nothing that 1500 other actors couldn't do- and for him to think he is all that and a bag of chips is ridiculous.
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#37758 - 07/19/04 07:42 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
DiamondDave Offline
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What a bullshit thread. Period.
I think he's a stand up guy. Maybe you don't
like the guy as a musician/actor...whatever.
But to play the fucking race card & call him an Uncle Tom?
WTF? Thats bullshit.

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#37759 - 07/19/04 07:54 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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I'm curious about the movie. The ads look really, really bad - the Asimov stories seem to have gone right over their heads.
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#37760 - 07/19/04 09:02 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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I thought he did a great job in Six Degrees of Seperation. Still,most of his movies suck.Remember Wild Wild West?
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#37761 - 07/19/04 09:17 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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I have no problem saying a movie sucked.
I do have issues with calling him an "Uncle Tom"

What fucking year are we in?
Why are there issues with interacial scenes?

Because of posts like this.

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#37762 - 07/20/04 02:25 AM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
have2cit Offline
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I went and saw I, Robot Saturday. Disappointed. They could have done a lot better job. Plot was over simplified. Characters development was weak. Effects to CG looking. Will Smith played the same character he plays in most of his movies.

Six Degrees of Separation was an exception for him. I just don't think they give him those type of roles anymore.

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#37763 - 07/20/04 08:50 AM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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I have no problem saying a movie sucked.
I do have issues with calling him an "Uncle Tom"

What fucking year are we in?
Why are there issues with interacial scenes?

Because of posts like this.




It's obvious you have issues because brothas I'm friends with also think he's a sell-out Uncle Tom & don't give a fuck if I agree or not... They also wish they were banging Jada Pinkett. Plus, it's a free country if someone doesn't like interracial scenes or doesn't want to do them that's their right as an individual. I know a Thai chick who doesn't like blacks & I know brothas who don't like Mexicans & there's white people who hate them all. Sadly, people can be as ignorant as they want, but if you think this thread is ignorant then that's your perogative... I disagree & I brought the idea up after having a discussion w/ people who were both black & white & comfortable with themselves, so what's your excuse? Typical bleeding heart white guilt?
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#37764 - 07/20/04 11:45 AM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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I brought the idea up after having a discussion w/ people who were both black & white & comfortable with themselves, so what's your excuse? Typical bleeding heart white guilt?




No "typical bleeding heart" here. I just think using that
terminology in this day & age is wrong. I'd rather speak up for my beliefs than hope they're not noticed.

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It's obvious you have issues




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#37765 - 07/20/04 12:12 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
smutspov Offline
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No "typical bleeding heart" here. I just think using that
terminology in this day & age is wrong. I'd rather speak up for my beliefs than hope they're not noticed.

Yo Dr. Demento; who the heck hopes their beliefs aren't noticed?
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#37766 - 07/20/04 02:46 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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To put it in easy words for you to understand......

I'm simply stating that I don't like the usage of the
term "Uncle Tom". I feel better about stating it than not.

Is that clear enough?

You can type anything you want. But, toughen up & don't be suprised if some may disagree w/you from time to time.

Have a great night.

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#37767 - 07/20/04 04:54 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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What we need now is Mike South to come in and tell us all that these disagreements are what makes America the wonderful place that it is.
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#37768 - 07/20/04 05:00 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
smutspov Offline
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Just one more question....DiamondDave: Uncle Tom?
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#37769 - 07/20/04 05:13 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
DiamondDave Offline
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Quote:

Just one more question....DiamondDave: Uncle Tom?




Um, no.

But a question to you.....
Why abuse your power as moderator?

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#37770 - 07/20/04 05:16 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
smutspov Offline
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It's not an abuse of power: ANYBODY CAN RATE YOU. duh
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#37771 - 07/20/04 05:27 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
DiamondDave Offline
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Yeah, OK.

Have a great night.

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#37772 - 07/20/04 06:39 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
smiling arab Offline
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smut ain't a mod. and anyone can click on your name above your avatar here and rate you at the bottom, so even if he were, it wouldn't be an abuse of modly power.
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#37773 - 07/20/04 06:51 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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WTF happened to Smut's "M"?
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#37774 - 07/20/04 11:48 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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smutmutant is a mod in the Video Reviews forum. Mods only wear an M on their jerseys in forums they are assigned to.
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#37775 - 07/21/04 12:57 AM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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Quote:

smutmutant is a mod in the Video Reviews forum. Mods only wear an M on their jerseys in forums they are assigned to.




I never realized that.
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#37776 - 07/21/04 01:58 AM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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A mod for a forum wears an M, and a mod but not in a given forum merely gets their name in black rather than cyan(?). The Almighty wears an A in all forums.

So, smutmutant is a mod because the name is in black letters, but not in the Shit List since there is no M.

Do I have wwwaaayyy too much time on my hands?
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#37777 - 07/21/04 03:34 AM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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Right on, Jrv comes through with the anwer again. Thanks dude.
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#37778 - 07/21/04 01:19 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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Yeah, thanx fellas... Next time, I'll refrain from getting into such a mindless hassle. However, one final thing I'd like to say is that this is no place for being politically correct, but disagreements are cool.
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#37779 - 07/21/04 01:23 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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I know I wouldn't want to be here with the PC police goosestepping around.
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#37780 - 07/22/04 06:12 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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I agree. Call it a bad night. SM, I don't agree w/your opinion, but I agree w/your right to post it, & your right to disagree w/my disagreement w/your opinion.

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#37781 - 07/22/04 06:17 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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Right on DD, besides once Sammura is reinstated the honkys will probably be flying all over the forum, its all in good fun (even if not to your tastes)
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#37782 - 07/26/04 06:25 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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Quote:

I agree. Call it a bad night. SM, I don't agree w/your opinion, but I agree w/your right to post it, & your right to disagree w/my disagreement w/your opinion.




agreed. hey, we're on the same page bout somethin'
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#37783 - 07/27/04 08:34 AM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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I like Will Smith... Bad Boys was the fuckin' best!

You can't blame him for Ali. How can any writer do justice to a living legend in 3 hours? That idea should have wound up a mini-series on HBO or something.

Thank God the 80's bubblegum rap thing is over though...

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#37784 - 07/27/04 12:43 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
smutspov Offline
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I like Will Smith... Bad Boys was the fuckin' best!

You can't blame him for Ali. How can any writer do justice to a living legend in 3 hours? That idea should have wound up a mini-series on HBO or something.

Thank God the 80's bubblegum rap thing is over though...




We can blame him for the shitty performance & having the audacity attempting to portray this one-of-a-kind legend.
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#37785 - 07/27/04 05:56 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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Actors have very little to do with a finished product. They have to be directed, their best take might have been ruined by something else, things have to be cut in editing etc etc.


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#37786 - 07/27/04 06:09 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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Actors have very little to do with a finished product. They have to be directed, their best take might have been ruined by something else, things have to be cut in editing etc etc.






obviously they are at the mercy of the editing... yet the movie still sucked and he still sucked as Ali.
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#37787 - 07/27/04 08:11 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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Quote:

Actors have very little to do with a finished product. They have to be directed, their best take might have been ruined by something else, things have to be cut in editing etc etc.





Not really.Pachino can take the shitiest role and make it good. Put Steven Baldwin in the same role and it would suck.
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#37788 - 07/29/04 06:49 PM Re: Will Smith: Uncle Tom?
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i think will smith is cool. just wished he and bridget would have done the nasty in the i, robot movie. if that were a white guy the love scene would have happened.
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