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Desi Foxx writes on www.desifoxx.com : When it rains it pours. The problems with TheFoxxs.com was in reality our web design guy, Stefan Avalos, who has changed the ownership of our domain illegally to him and has decided he will keep our domain TheFoXXs.com until we pay the expenses and buy them out. He and our other partner, Patrick Hasson, are also holding all of our content hostage.

Patrick is one of the documentary guys that we have spent the past 2-3 months letting he and Juan Carlos into our homes and our lives. This is how they repay us. Patrick and Stefan are aware that we are working with a new partner to get them the money for the expenses. What they have done is both unethical and illegal. Our contract specifically states Elli and I retain ownership of everything. Their only participation is the expenses to be recouped from sales and a percentage of net profits from sales not from us. Their active roles per contract are over but they won’t let us continue building the website until we give them an undisclosed amount of money to give my own domain back to me.

They also do not have a release from us to show those pictures in the gallery. So the regulators will be knocking at their doors shortly. In the meantime, I recommend that no one purchase the DVD. I cannot guarantee that you will receive your purchase as Monday, we will be obtaining legal counsel, contacting regulators, and whatever governmental department handles domain theft and the whole project will have to be shut down until resolved.

Elli and I apologize for any inconvenience this causes any of you. All I can say is I guess we can’t trust anyone. This guy forged my authority to do this. Don’t do business with Stefan Avalos or Patrick Hasson, they are scam artists. This is what they will do if you give them any information. They will steal your stuff and then want money to get it back. I have actual communications from them as proof of this theft. You can get their names and addresses from the website, DVD and through reviewing the domain ownership registry.

We will also no longer participate in the documentary and suggest no one get involved i this project either. We will not support anything they try to get from the documentary after this theft!

PS. Patrick Hasson has a project in to Tera Vision, Tera Patrick’s company. If anyone knows how to get in contact with them, please tell them to beware of these scam artists.

Background: I write this entry with a heavy heart and tears in my eyes. I’ve worked it in my head several times and in several ways and the answer is still the same. Elli and I must leave the porn world!!

Even though everything is set up and we made our first DVD as promised, the sales we’ve had do not even cover the expenses. We thought we were giving what everyone said they wanted but looks like we were wrong.

Too many in the industry have been against us to sustain any longer under the current conditions. We are about to be without a house or a car so decisions have to be made now. In an earlier entry on 9/9, I mentioned the argument with Derek at LA Direct. Here’s the whole story of what happened so you can see there’s truly many who have been planning and working hard for this day to come. I’m sorry to say that they have won!!

Since Elli has been with LA Direct, they have scheduled her 1 b/g scene which was through one of their own production companies. There has been a few other scenes, g/g, solo and the mainstream role which pays an average of $500 a scene. She has turned down a scene or two due to the content wanted such as 8 girls sticking lollipops in each others pussies and asses. Disease waiting to happen so she declined. The thing about b/g scenes is that’s where the money is, we get paid most for them (unless you start adding more guys or anal, etc.). So anyway, she’s been averaging a net profit of about $800 a month since signing a contract with LA Direct.

So after a talk with one of their agents while Derek was out of town, I got the okay to schedule Elli for a few scenes myself to help get our bills paid and get money to move. In stopping by Jim’s office to settle up on a shoot, he asked how Elli’s schedule was going. We told him it sucked which surprised him since he still gets calls on her regularly and had been sending them to LA Direct (cuz that’s the kind of agent Jim is, he cares about us). So I tell Jim I got the ok to schedule her outside her agency for now anyway and he said he would start taking the calls. I sent him new pics and he sent them out. This is where you’ll see how we’re treated here . . and by the main company making money off my scenes currently out there.

Laura from Naughty America gets the pics from Jim. We both shot with NA in January and have been trying to get back in ever since with no luck. I’ve even emailed her at her personal work email (given to me by more than one person) more than once trying to get us on the schedule . . . separately, we understand NA doesn’t want the m/d thing. Not even a response from this woman, not even an acknowledgement. I know members of their club and employees of the company who all wonder why we haven’t shot for them again. I explain my dilemma and they can offer no help. Everyone says it’s Laura’s decision who shoots for NA so we have to talk to her. We’ve even stopped doing interviews with them, stating we cannot continue to promote ourselves there if they aren’t going to shoot us. We’re only helping them to sell our current work with these interviews. I have great reviews there!!

Now, Laura calls both our agents. At Jim’s, she says she wants to schedule Elli. Wow, finally, really?? But then she calls LA Direct and says “I want to schedule Elli Foxx but not sure where to schedule her since she’s on your website and Jim just sent me pics of her”. Again, Laura has been in the biz a long time so she knew the repercussions of the call to LA Direct.

She hadn’t responded to any messages about scheduling us before this though I had also sent pics to her before. It’s been 8 months since we shot for them and have lived here now almost 4 months with no new NA shoot. Does anyone out there really believe this woman had no idea she was busting on Elli. We sure don’t believe it for a second. Not sure why Laura would have anything against us since our work has brought nothing but good reviews and continued sales. My scenes with them are the top googled scenes I have out there.

So, of course, our phones start blowing up Monday afternoon about this. LA Derek says we canceled the NA shoot that Elli actually turned down due to a shoot I had scheduled us and our trip to NY that evening. So he’s charging her a $300 kill fee and he won’t cancel her contract. Not sure why he wants the contract since he’s not scheduling any work for her. He’s effectively put her out of the porn biz. You tell me what his motives are???

Now, the last of course to this story, Elli wasn’t available to shoot for NA last week and the shoot was not rescheduled for a different day even though NA shoots these scenes regularly. Hmmmm wonder why Laura had to have Elli Foxx that day but no other day???? Maybe because she didn’t really want to shoot her at all but wanted the satisfaction of shutting Elli down from making a few extra dollars to keep us from becoming homeless soon. Thanks alot Laura!!!

Meanwhile, I’m only being scheduled for interracial scenes which is fine with me but I can only fuck so many giant cocks each week. I am 48, ya know. On top of all the giant cocks I’m fucking for interracial scenes, I have been shooting for our CT scenes to provide content for our site and DVD. I’ve been handling all the marketing, my fan mail and my blog everyday. I’m basically working 10-12 hour days with no return on the majority of it since our DVD is not selling as expected. At this rate, I can work this many hours and make money in a real job that will at least cover some of our needs.

So you can see, I’m defeated. You guys win, hope it makes your day!! Elli and I are leaving the porn business as of today. Tomorrow, we have interviews for jobs in the real world. Sorry to all of you who did support our efforts. Would’ve liked to have given you a success story instead of a failure. But at least you can see what I told you is true. They weren’t going to be happy until we left.

PARTY ON!!

PS. 1and1 shut our domain down last night saying we canceled it. Yeah right, right after we set it up to sell our DVD, that makes alot of sense. Not sure what their deal is with us other than we weren’t renewing our other packages where they make the real money and we were transferring the domain to a new host. I suggest you never use this company because their answer is . . . . you can redeem it (we never canceled it) for $40 and it will take 3-5 days. We’re fighting them but not sure what good it will do. Once we get it back up, you will still be able to purchase the DVD if you’d like a copy. It will be for sale until we sell them all. There will be no more!

tl;dr

Agreed..^

I blame it on Election Season Fever(ESF). Suddenly everyone has something to say no matter if they have an audience or not.

Remember..
Opinions are like assholes except this asshole will hurt your feelings.

darrah is so jerking herself furiously right now, the thought of which makes me kind of pukey

I wonder if I will be getting a call tomorrow....

Feel free to not let us know, drone.

Your input is about as necessary as Monstars updates.

Feel free not to read my posts.

Your comments are as welcome as MSRA...

Feel free to dream a lil dream, scrotemonger.

You'll speak up, I'll beat you down.

Do you get the feeling that the Foxxes are fucking impossible to deal with? They were on Stern, for fuck's sake. And they can't get steady work? Sounds like bullshit...

They are both lame! The company I work for tried to book Elli in a foot job scene after she had her agent beg us for work then she decides she doesn't want to do the scene....Also, if they are "done with porn" then how come they were at the Anabolic porn party this past monday at the Viper Room?

I feel sorry for the guy who married that stupid whore.

Web guy fires back.

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Stefan Avalos writes: You can consider this an FYI or whatever. I've been nosing around some of the blogs and came across your site. Thought you might be interested, or at least entertained, to hear the "other side" of the Desi Foxx, "thefoxxs.com" story.

I saw that your website printed her the "Desi Foxx" rantings, so I thought
it best to respond in some way.

I am one of the guys, S Avalos, that "Desi Foxx" is bashing in all kinds of
ways. Here's the facts on what is really going on. (at least from our side)

Quick note: P Hasson and I aren't "Porn" people. All of this developed because of a mainstream documentary that P Hasson is producing and directing, in which Desi and Elli are a part.

I helped him on it for a couple days. In the course of those days, I met Desi and - (because I'm an idiot) decided to help her with her endeavor because putting together websites, DVDs etc. was something I was familiar with. Desi had absolutely no money, and no real knowledge on how to accomplish what she wanted.

With an appearance on Howard Stern mere days away, I thought it would be a shame not to have anything to promote or sell. The Stern people were of the same opinion. I thought it might be fun to get involved and thought I could also make a few bucks in the process. I had (and still have) no intention of staying involved with any of it for longer than a couple months.

I thought it would be a win/win for everyone; I leave with a crazy story,
and a few bucks while Desi gets a website, some content, a DVD and the
start of a small company.

With that "quick" intro complete:

1. Desi's domain, thefoxxs.com was NOT stolen from her. She knows this and has been clouding or simply lying about a lot of things in order to seem like a victim.

THE DOMAIN NAME IS STILL HERS. The reason that the registrant/tech info is
currently in my name is because - well, I am (god I wish I weren't) the site admin.

I had to change the site from her isp (which doesn't allow adult content) to one that does. The changeover is still in process, though who knows what trouble she is causing. She already once caused an issue which caused the domain to fall into "redemption". Currently, I couldn't change the information if I wanted.

The domain, thanks to her screwing around, is in some limbo state. If I were able to do anything, the first thing would be to make my whois.net contact info anonymous. Makes sense, right? Assuming she doesn't cause more trouble, (haha) the site registrar info will move to the new ISP. If so, it has to stay there for 60 days. A site can't be shifted more frequently than that. But the domain name is still hers.

2. Since she is unable to pay the most basic of bills, I actually covered
the costs of all the transfers, the new web space, etc. That's actually the
main reason that the information is all currently in my name. It had to be,
for billing purposes.

I'll say it again: I AM NOT CLAIMING HER DOMAIN. I seem to be unable to get
this through her thick skull - or more likely, it is a more dramatic story
for her and her "woes that aren't ever her fault".

3. From practically day one, working with her has been a nightmare. She has
only the most basic notions about business and had/has a very inflated idea
about her worth. This has been the crux of many problems. To be honest, I've seen kids running lemonade stands with more business sense than her.

4. P Hasson and I invested quite a bit of our personal money and time into
creating the site, shooting content, authoring the DVD, creating merchant
accounts, putting duplication and shipping into place. It's been a death by
a thousand cuts situation. What was supposed to be easy and not too pricey
has been made neither - by Desi's actions. For instance: we are the ones
that actually take the processed orders and physically pack and ship those
damn discs out on a daily basis. This is but one thing that "poor stressed
Desi" just hasn't had to even think about.

5. We are supposedly equal "partners" in this venture. It was not a 'work
for hire'. Her part of the deal was to promote the DVD and website. Haha.
Funny, eh? Like I already wrote, my plan had been - set it up, work it for a while,, maybe a month or two, hopefully make a few bucks - then split and give her everything. So much for that idea.

6. Desi took a great opportunity (the Howard Stern show) and blew it - in a
way like I have never seen. I have seen bad business moves, but she takes
the cake. Instead of pricing the disc at something reasonable she had very
crazy notions about her value. P Hasson and I made the huge mistake of
staying at the crazy prices she was demanding for a little while.

Unfortunately, rather than a "we tried it your way, now let's try something
else" situation, this gave her a grandiose notion that she was 'in control'
of the partnership.

6. When the disc wasn't selling at her exorbitant price and we suggested
lowering it, she went into orbit; convinced that we were crooks, thieves,
liars and a host of other things. Almost immediately, she went to other
people to try to do a side deal. She even wrote about it on her blog. She
made no bones about cutting us out, in what would have been an illegal and
unethical move. To be honest, we would have been okay with this if she could actually have come up with money to cover our costs.

The word "Ethics" and the name Desi Foxx should obviously not be in the same sentence. How she has used Elli to try to get in the spotlight should have been an obvious clue for me on this. Call me a slow learner. Heck, call me an idiot on this one.

Every single potential "investor" that has spoken with us has run in the
opposite direction when they become aware of what Desi Foxx is really like. If only I had the same warning before I got involved with her
on this thing!

7. When she suddenly decided to "retire", she left us holding the bag. She
never told us about this; she didn't give a damn what it would mean to us
financially. We (P Hasson and myself) are into this for money, time and
effort - and she just decided to walk away.

At that point, the "contract"(actually a deal memo) had been breached by her in a number of ways. Now she was simply walking away (or trying to do some deal behind our backs, depending on the day). We realized that we had to take the situation into our own hands and do what we could to recoup some of our money. Lowering the price of the DVD was the most obvious thing. The disc simply wasn't selling at her prices. No rocket science there. However, rather than let us do our best on that - she wanted to stop everything.

In other words, she was saying, "too bad you'll lose your money, but I don't want to play anymore. Oh and you can't play either even though you bought the ball." Additionally, she wanted (hysterically demanded, actually) everything that we had created for this venture.

8. It should be noted that P Hasson's company has copyright to all the
materials on the site, the DVD, the still photos, etc. of her. She is under
the false impression that she has the copyright because of some poor wording in the deal memo we signed (the same one she breached and nullified in so many dramatic ways) Though she does own the domain. the website itself (html code, php code, etc.), the content: the DVD, etc. does NOT belong to her. All the 2257s, model releases, etc. belong to and are in P Hasson's company name.

9. In spite of her (I believe true) insanity and purely self-centered
intents, we (P Hasson and I) STILL have not done anything illegal. We are maintaining the site as best as possible IN SPITE of Desi. If and when any money is due her, believe it or not - we will actually pay it.

The bottom line is that we are in the midst of a freakin' nightmare. The
woman is a monster and I wish I'd never laid eyes on her. She is slandering us, she is printing our names. She is causing major "tortious interference" by telling people not to buy the DVD and making claims that there might be credit card fraud involved. She is the worst sort of person - a self centered sociopath who has no compunction about breaking
the law and then claiming others are doing it.

This is not mere obfuscation on her part. She is out and out lying about
many things. I cannot imagine that even in her severely delusional state
that she doesn't know what she is doing.

The truly frustrating thing about all of this is if we had put together a
business venture that didn't work out after honest effort, I would be bummed - but I would chalk up the losses as something that simply didn't pay out.

This isn't what happened here. From day one, Diana Grandmaison (Desi Foxx)
has been shooting us and herself in the feet. She has been the biggest
single liability of thefoxxs.com.

It remains my hope to soon get the hell away from her and everything "Foxx"
related. Since my name is attached to the domain theoretically for 60 more
days, and since I still am trying to recoup some money, it would seem that
this has another two months to go.

I wanted to also make clear that this really could have been an instance
where a female performer did well. This time, believe it or not, it is not a case of evil men exploiting a helpless woman.

I hope this serves as some kind of warning to others or at least clarifies
some of this idiocy.



So - there you have it. Contact me if you want and feel free to ask me any
questions.

Best regards,

Well, its very clear to me what needs to be done if they want to make some quick bucks and secure a path out of the business: Elli Fox needs to do IR.

Trust me, the phones will ring off the hook. Even better if both 'em do some double teams on a lucky black stud.

Hey, mom's already down with it. What's good for Mommy is good for her little girl too!

^^^ You've been lurking like a vulture for three weeks waiting to make that post, haven't you.

Also, the fewer scenes by Desi and Elli, the better. I want to be able to save my eyes from scarring.

After 10 pages of rambling, Darrah was right.

What about Christian XXX's hedgehogs? Do they need to do IR?

Calling them studs is a cuckold term. Oh wait, that's kinda

What exactly are you trying to accomplish right now, tritone?

Ease on down the road.

It still won't get you anywhere near jig's daughter, tritone.

Take this how you will, but I've made the observation that blacks think any car problem can be solved with jumper cables. I see it every day.

^^reminds me of chris rock saying that black people take robitussin for everything. "ya broke ya leg? Robitussin!"

:applaudingbanana:

HA....it was fake as DESI tit job.....just another publicity whore!


http://mylifeinla.com/acasting/

AAAARGH my eyes fucking hurt from the fucked up design of that page.

Just going through some of the older threads and i saw this


Web guy is this guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Avalos

Did an indie camcorder movie a few years back called the Last Broadcast, i thought it was pretty good.