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#348120 - 07/28/08 01:46 PM
Re: Serious Question
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Are you giving or receiving?
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#348121 - 07/28/08 02:04 PM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 01/16/07
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the most danger is always to the receptive partner. the partner giving has a much lower risk always, minus any open sores on his cock. so technically... male-male, and male female carry the same lowered risk to the pitcher and the same extremely heightened risk to the catcher.
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#348123 - 07/28/08 02:29 PM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 01/16/07
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well, assuming a control factor of both choices in partners are HIV+, then the risk is equivalent. No difference in the chances of infection, which are... while greater than none.. still small in the great scheme of infectiousness. Its still like playing russian roulette, you just have have one bullet rather than the 4-5 you would have on the other end. Now if you had an open sore on your cock, which would then guarantee direct bloodstream contact with the infected persons blood... your risk increases exponentially.
now if you were asking amongnst general population, and assuming an unknown partner status, then statistically your risk would be higher with the male as gay males are a demographic with a higher rate of infection. Of course we can also break that down into race too, as african americans also have a higher rate of infection, and locality can be a issue as well. Unprotected anal sex with a black woman from haiti vs a white male from Phoenix... youre safer statistically with the guy.
of course your question was based on a known status... so that last paragraph was irrelevant, but just used to answer a possible followup hypothetical in that particular vein, and point out the many different factors at play.
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#348124 - 07/28/08 02:54 PM
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Whoremaster
Registered: 10/21/05
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Medically or biologically, there's no difference. An ass is an ass is an ass.
But as has been pointed out, especially with regards to work, you are crossing over into (or have previously been active in) talent pools which have a higher potential risk/incidence of HIV transmission.
Of course, when we factor in circus acts like double anal with internal popshots, then the risk of anal tears which greatly facilitate transmission are much greater as well, regardless of the gender or orientation of the performers. Added to this, when you are going to 'developing' countries to shoot so that you can lowball your production costs, then you might as well be playing Russian Roulette with five rounds and one empty chamber.
What is bizarre to me is this: John Stagliano caught HIV after being anally creampied by a tranny in Brazil.. Ergo, Evil Angel banned the shooting of anal creampies by the directors it distributes (which is why there was much rejoicing from anal creampie enthusiasts when Erik Everhard made the leap over to JJV, where no such restriction is in place). Yet bizarrely, no such edict was made about shooting trannies or shooting in Brazil.
The act in and of itself is not risky (if both performers are HIV free), but when the factors of tranny talent pool (a pool which can both pitch and catch, hence the raised risk) and third world location are figured in, the risk goes through the roof...that's why nobody is in a rush to go and shoot bareback double anal creampies in Uganda or Mozambique.
The short answer is: The map is not the territory. It's all very well to indulge in blue sky hypothetical arguments along the lines of 'All things being equal...', but the fact of the matter is that all things are not equal...there are mitigating circumstances to be taken onboard, hence the quasi-pariah status of active crossover performers such as yourself.
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#348125 - 07/28/08 03:00 PM
Re: Serious Question
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The map is not the territory.
Nor is the menu the meal. 
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#348130 - 07/28/08 04:13 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/23/04
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your uneducated opinion on ... well anything just isnt desired.
Hey Rob, who's your favorite NBA star, past or present? 
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#348131 - 07/28/08 04:16 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 07/07/08
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your uneducated opinion on ... well anything just isnt desired.
Uneducated people watch PBS documentaries?
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#348136 - 07/28/08 04:32 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 07/07/08
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i'll just say Larry Bird, only white guy i could think of.
And I'm the uneducated one?
Listen jackass. I was being serious on this thread about a serious subject. I don't have to be starring in porn or producing or directing or even be a fucking insider or live on a forum to have an opinion on it. Anal sex with anyone who aren't both virgins is more riskier than vaginal sex. So fuck off.
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#348140 - 07/28/08 04:43 PM
Re: Serious Question
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You seem to have an obsession with rape. Sounds like you need a good dicking.
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The pw's I fuck are tested routinely, when was the last time your infected ass was tested for anything (including intelligence)?
BH, in the future, I'm going to have to ask you to limit yourself to just one sig-worthy comment per post. Thanks.
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#348143 - 07/28/08 04:49 PM
Re: Serious Question
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Poodle Killer
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Jesus fucking Christ,,,,,Now this place a fucking medical forum..Fucking hilarious,,  Your asking this group of fucking retards,,,Six posts in and these fucking tards are arguing about something that has nothing to do even with topic.. Why don,t you tell us in about two-three years when your down to 80 pounds and have one foot in the grave..Whether it was man-ass or not.... What a stupid fucking question,,give the noodle a shake buddy 
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#348144 - 07/28/08 04:54 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 07/07/08
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Loc: Hell
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Condoms sometimes fail, testing works, end of story.
What testing? The testing that only tests for HIV and AIDS. But you can still work with other STDs which leads to so many future issues like infertility.
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#348145 - 07/28/08 04:59 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 12/28/07
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Infertility in porn is a God sent. Thank you. Play on.
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#348154 - 07/28/08 06:51 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 04/01/07
Posts: 717
Loc: Off the mortal coil
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But they can still work with those STDs except for HIV or AIDS.
Are you shitting me? You're attempting to be a journalist and you haven't even done the most basic research?? Fuck, I'm not even tangentially in the industry and I knew that AIM goes full-panel.
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#348159 - 07/28/08 08:30 PM
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The first thing you should learn Cameron, is not to respond to Diarrhea. It is after all something you flush and don't share with others. Amirite?.
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#348165 - 07/28/08 11:59 PM
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Tiffany Minx son is going to perform soon.... 
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#348166 - 07/29/08 12:00 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 06/05/05
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I have a serious question that I would love to know the medical answer to. As in proof or a concrete answer, rather than conjecture or prejudice. I value your opinions on this forum more so than others, because I think you guys speak more freely on the subject.
Here is my question....
is there a medical difference in the risk of transmitting HIV from male-male anal sex vs. male-female anal sex.
assuming i work with a female who is HIV positive and have anal sex vs. working with a male who is HIV positive and have anal sex....am I more likely to catch HIV from either gender or is it the exact same risk? Is that scenario clear enough to decipher?
Flame away if you wish, but I would love to hear actual factual answers if possible. Thanks for your help.
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#348167 - 07/29/08 01:24 AM
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Porn Jesus
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Any PW who reads this post is probably gonna put CXXX on the ol' "NO" list now...
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#348168 - 07/29/08 01:30 AM
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Whoremaster
Registered: 10/21/05
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So Dan I have a question? So you think that because I am a tranny that I should be "banned" like Evil Angel did anal creampies? I am having a hard time finding the logic!
I can understand your logic with shooting in Brazil but when you say "tranny" in general then I have a problem.
That's precisely my point...there is no logic. In an incident where there were three key factors to the transmission, only one of those factors gets singled out and punished. No doubt if you were a Brazilian and EA declared 'We're still shooting anal creampies and trannies, just not with Brazilians or in Brazil', you'd feel the same way.
My argument is more akin to 'Swear off of all three or don't swear off of any of them'. Personally, I couldn't give a damn whether EA shoots anal creampies or not...it's just that the logic of their decision seems flawed and arbitrary.
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As a transsexual Performer HERE IN THE U.S, I am tested via A.I.M before shooting SO with that being said its hard for me to follow the logic that because transsexuals in Brazil are a higher risk than ALL tranny shoots should be banned!
In a hypothetical situation, say if someone was holding a gun to my mother's head and ordering me to fuck a tranny, then I'd definitely have to go with the US-based, AIM-tested version rather than the one from a developing country with a test of dubious provenance and authenticity.
However, this overlooks the fact that everyone in this industry is only as safe as the weakest link in the chain. Perhaps you only work with US-based performers, but can the same be said for those performers? Some producers will fly to Brazil to shoot, some will fly Brazilian talent in, and suddenly you have a whole other talent pool to worry about. In the US, it's not difficult for a producer to know the ins and outs of the straight talent pool...people talk on and offline. You know which performers are going to be difficult to work with, which ones are likeliest to flake, which ones are likeliest to have an STD come up, which ones do privates, which ones do drugs heavily etc.
This is not so much the case with the gay and tranny talent pools, and even less so when you're talking foreign gay and tranny talent pools. Maybe people like Joey Silvera or Chi Chi LaRue might have an idea or know who to ask, but the other 99.9% of the straight industry don't.
The fact is that with the exception of the Marc Wallice outbreak, all of the more recent cases of HIV in the industry have had certain hallmarks:
1) Stagliano: Brazil, Tranny, Anal, Creampie
2) Darren James: Brazil, double anal creampie w/ performer worked w/ tranny
3) Lara Roxx, Jessica Dee, Ms. Arroyo: Anal/Double anal creampie w/ James
4) Some 'straight' male performer in E. Europe who got it doing a gay private.
Certain keywords keep popping up.
Now you can see why some people are reticent to see the talent pools crossover, even moreso with performers who are still regularly crossing over in their private and professional lives.
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Just trying to understand thats all, not here to argue or be rude!
No problem, nice to see someone capable of having a discussion without resorting to name-calling and throwing their toys out of the pram. 
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