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#336228 - 06/09/08 03:09 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
Uomo Grassissimo!! Offline
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He also said that hel believes that if you cannot afford children then you should not have the RIGHT to have them. Granting basic rights only to those who can afford them. Sounds alot like the communist manifesto....."from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs'........except it is the government who decides which is which.





Actually, it's capitalism. You earn money, you survive. You don't, you perish. So the market decides, not the government.

Odd for an American to believe in capitalism, I know.

How is this communism?? You're just obsessed with allusions to China.

Yours is the socialist welfare state where we pay for others recklessly choices under the guise of "fundamental human rights".

Basically you are saying that we should provide unlimited welfare to anyone who wants to have an endless supply of kids. Sorry. I can't agree to that.

I never said third world idiots couldn't have their kids. I just believe I have the right to lobby not to reinforce their chosen wrecklessness.

If you ask someone for money they get to to set conditions. You don't want conditions? Pay your own way.

I don't believe in the "industrial world's burden".

I have no obligation to submit without protest to paying for their mistake of having more kids than they can afford.
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#336229 - 06/09/08 03:14 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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I was never a Marine, I was in an Army intelligence unit. My military bona fides were to show that I love freedom, and make it my business to protect it.

Population control is a complicated subject, way off topic here. The Chinese have made some tough choices, I've not studied the issue in depth. My hopes for most of the world would be that education and availability of birth control would go a very long way. Community health agencies need to help out here, and have classes, counseling, etc.

Folks on your side who advocate the global gag rule, and a Pope who says wearing a condom is a sin, are not helping things at all. But I don't think letting the children starve is the answer, except in a Libertarian utopia, which I don't support, either. I'm a classic liberal, with emphasis on civil liberties.

I have to go take a final exam at a Community College. I have a B.S., but I continue to learn. You should try some additional formal education, I've found it to be a lifelong joy.

-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy [/quot




Your use of the term, 'folks on you side' is completely inaccurate. I am as Far from a right wing lunatic as you can find. I think my principles are much more in line with libertarianism, or slightly right of center. I oppose censorship, think obscenity laws are ridiculous(but for now they are the law of the land), i think education is a fundamental right, and i believe in the rights to life liberty and the persuit of happiness. And just becasue somebody elses right to persue happiness pisses me off it doesnt dimish those rights of that individual. I thinks sex education and the governmets providing birth control is a good thing, i just dont think it should be MANDATORY as suggested by others.(and by withholding any aide to a country unless they control their population, you in effect make it mandatory) (kind of like that gag rule you talk about)

I think if you reread my posts very carefully you will see that i am not a right winger. Actually, what in any of my posts do you consider extreme right wing?


And my argument was never that Max's material SHOULD be illegal, I just pointed out that , as the laws are written, 12 average people found Max guilty of the law. I am all FOR changing those laws and I will use my power at the ballot box to do my part to change them. I think I have always maintained a consistant argument, wihtout resorting (too much) to the 'mostly' childish responses here.


p.s. And to try do discredit someon by applying the right wing label to them, well youre doing exactly what they do.Its a facist technique.(not that youre a facist, youre jusing one of the plays form their playbook, wheter you know it or not)


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#336230 - 06/09/08 03:21 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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On page 5 of this thread he writes...."I dont believe in providing food aid to countries that arent "controling their poplulation."


on page 6 he writes...."I think that if developing countries "controlled their population" they would get out of povery faster.



Now if you dont understand ...




I understand full well what he's saying. I also understand that he's not advocating a Chinese-Style one-child per couple policy. Rather, he's against government funding of the offspring. Big difference.

Perhaps you should take some remedial English classes.

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#336231 - 06/09/08 03:28 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Actually, it's capitalism. You earn money, you survive. You don't, you perish. So the market decides, not the government.


I agee with most of what you say, but again your contradiction is just too big to ignore. Yousay.....'so the market decides, NOT the government......yet you advocate government populaiont control....

And of course, being the (insert your own adjective) you are, you still will not answer, What means should those governments use to Control the Population, and how does that reconcile with your other stated beliefes?


And where do you get off misrepresenting my opinion about providing welare, I have stated.... i believe we should end all foriegn aid. But good try anyway

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#336232 - 06/09/08 03:31 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
misterz Offline
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Quote:

Quote:

On page 5 of this thread he writes...."I dont believe in providing food aid to countries that arent "controling their poplulation."


on page 6 he writes...."I think that if developing countries "controlled their population" they would get out of povery faster.



Now if you dont understand ...




I understand full well what he's saying. I also understand that he's not advocating a Chinese-Style one-child per couple policy. Rather, he's against government funding of the offspring. Big difference.

Perhaps you should take some remedial English classes.




Im reading the same thing you are Jim and i dont see any of that here. He has never said what you say he did.

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#336233 - 06/09/08 03:34 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
misterz Offline
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Registered: 04/09/08
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Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

On page 5 of this thread he writes...."I dont believe in providing food aid to countries that arent "controling their poplulation."


on page 6 he writes...."I think that if developing countries "controlled their population" they would get out of povery faster.



Now if you dont understand ...




I understand full well what he's saying. I also understand that he's not advocating a Chinese-Style one-child per couple policy. Rather, he's against government funding of the offspring. Big difference.

Perhaps you should take some remedial English classes.




Im reading the same thing you are Jim and i dont see any of that here. He has never said what you say he did. Hes talking about population to control to end povery. That is not simply saying, no government funding far far from it nice try though lets see what fatman has to say

nice try backpedalling for him




And SILL no one answers the dirct question I rest my case

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#336234 - 06/09/08 03:43 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Can we just put to rest some basic facts here before we lose touch with the core problems.

1) We (the porn fans) are deviants, we do not have proper support and representation in the political arena, please someone point out an (even possible) pro-porn politician other then the whacked out libertarians. therefore to # two...

2) Our only hope is to enforce the current interpretations of the constitution and fight the application of the loose word "obscene" and widen the current form "art" to encompass a more widely accepted term of pornography as it is today.

Sexuality and it's display is never static, these are boundaries that need to be tested by every generation.

3) The religious right is at war with us, they do not understand or care about the basic precept "live and let live," they are driven by a force to control and dominate
under the guise of "love" "children" and "freedoms" these all being buzz words like "WMD" meant to give purpose to their right to invade the sovereignty of your homes, business and bedrooms.

I'm not going to get into too much of a sissy fit over this because like JimB, I believe, that when it hits the higher courts it will be overturned.
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#336235 - 06/09/08 03:46 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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If the government didn't assist, we'd have a nation full of dummies.




We have that now. It's called no child left behind or as it actually works no child gets ahead.
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#336236 - 06/09/08 03:48 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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After all the backpedaling, name calling , and misrepresenting what I have written here, still not one person here has the COURAGE, not even our military hero, has the guts to answer, what means should these governments use to achieve the goal of population control? You want all of the freedoms that you believe you are entitled to but put conditions or prices on those same freedoms for every one else. How many ways can you say hypocrite? dodge, backpedal call names, and misrepresent, but god forbid answer one simple question. lol

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#336237 - 06/09/08 03:50 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
misterz Offline
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Quote:

If the government didn't assist, we'd have a nation full of dummies.




We have that now. It's called no child left behind or as it actually works no child gets ahead.






+1 right on look at l.a. city schools,, where lefitist liberals have been incharge for 50 years. 55% drop out rate.

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#336238 - 06/09/08 04:25 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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FATMAN NOW SAYS (insert backpedal here)




I see no backpedal. I still believe that having more kids than you can afford is not a right.

You forgot to quote my closing in the same post:

"I don't see polluting the planet with kids you cannot afford as "a fundamental human right". Sorry. "

My views have not changed.



Quote:

I wholeheartedly agree withyour post. I hate the 'welfare state' that we have created as much as the next guy.




Pure lie. You are advocating a "welfare world". Or else you believe in controlling population. There is no middle. Either you are obligated to pay for the children others cannot afford or your not.

You're big on attacking my view but you "backpeddle" to adopt mine as you see fit without expressing any solutions.

Rather convenient, no?

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But in the above statemant you say if you cant afford a kid you should choose not to have one, but earliet you said, an I quote "I dont think you have the RIGHT to have children if you cant afford them." Sounds like some major backpedaling to me. Or are you just 'clarifying your position.




As I've said. I don't think having children you cannot afford is a "fundamental human right". If you choose to have the kid, you've chosen a bad life for yourself and your child. I'm under no constitutional obligation to assist either of you. Especially if you and your children don't live under my constitution.


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Simple question, what actions should these governments be allowed to take to control their populations as you say they should, and how does that reconcile with your...."leave me alone in my bedroom" philosophy.




I would attempt to build upon the foundation began in Kissinger's "National Security Study Memorandum 200" which the Catholic Church helped to scuttle.

I would require countries we aid to improve their "Index of Economic Freedoms" since it is clear to me that economic and property rights has an eventual impact on population since once people are established in such a system, like our urban middle class, too many children are a liability they choose against.
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#336239 - 06/09/08 04:29 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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And where do you get off misrepresenting my opinion about providing welare, I have stated.... i believe we should end all foriegn aid. But good try anyway




No. You said we should pay for these foreigner to have as many kids as they want.

You don't get to say no foreign aid. How will these people have all these kids you want their fundamental human rights to have if you're not going to feed them?

You're controlling their population!



Sorry. You lose.

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#336240 - 06/09/08 04:54 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Im reading the same thing you are Jim and i dont see any of that here. He has never said what you say he did.




Yeah, he did. HERE

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I'm not FORCING them to stop having kids. I'm just not going to pay for them. They can still "express themselves" and have as many as they want ... WITHOUT MY MONEY.

They can do what they want ...
I can do what I want ...

Perfect.





If you learned how to speak and read the English language, you might have caught it the first time. Asshole.

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#336241 - 06/09/08 07:24 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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After all the backpedaling, name calling , and misrepresenting what I have written here, still not one person here has the COURAGE, not even our military hero, has the guts to answer, what means should these governments use to achieve the goal of population control? You want all of the freedoms that you believe you are entitled to but put conditions or prices on those same freedoms for every one else. How many ways can you say hypocrite? dodge, backpedal call names, and misrepresent, but god forbid answer one simple question. lol




All right, this is it.

I never said I was a "hero", far from it. You think it takes courage to make a political rant on a fuckin' porn forum? Jesus Horatio Fucking Christ on a Christmas tree.

I said quickly, before I went to ace my final, that education, availability of birth control, and counseling and classes for those with expanding families would be a good way to approach this. Lifting things in general, so people have the ability to support children, will help. There are a lot of traditional liberal approaches to help people have and support reasonable families. Children should be looked upon with great value as individuals. I do believe it is a basic human right to carry on with another generation, but not to have a huge family.

Catholics are a big part of this problem. In the Old Testament, it says, "Be fruitful and multiply." Well, yeah, in the beginning. Not past the sustainable limits of the earth, in an exponential manner. Hey, someone here said they were Catholic, didn't they? Well, I think abortion should be safe, legal, and rare. Birth control should be encouraged. Abstinence only education does not work. To establish missionary footholds in underdeveloped parts of the world, and deny people basic reproductive freedom and sanitation because of some ancient text, is, well, obscene.

I find it hard to quarrel with the Chinese. People were starving, something had to be done. The solution respects the right to bring about another generation, but addresses the terrible overpopulation problem. No one likes rationing of anything, but there are only so many resources to go around.

This world can support a lot more folks if more were vegetarian. That would sure help.

I don't think I have ever advocated taking away rights, absent abuse or crime. Don't try to call me a hypocrite, or say I want special treatment. I've worked my balls bloody to get what I have, and now I am going to enjoy it. I've answered your tangental questions, tried to make out your sorry excuse for language, and put up with all of this I care for. It ain't fun no more. I can use the double negative because I come from the city of Paul Lawrence Dunbar, the first African American poet laureate. He wrote in colloquialisms. Kinda like CAOH. That was genius. You are just pitiful.

Again, if you don't think what happened to Max is fucked up, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground. I hope Eminence Front is right, and the appeals process goes well. He is probably also right that what will be tolerated will evolve, and the fight will go on. I stop at Gag Factor, but defend those who go further. At one time, rock and roll was obscene. Let's try to move forward, not go back to 1957.

You know what I find offensive? Violent commercials for movies, or WWE, between innings of my ball games. I'm tricked into seeing images that offend me. But, I have no desire to censor the movies themselves.

I go away now, in my motorhome, to enjoy a great summer hiking with my dog. Again, dirty movies - OK. Religious zealots making oppression, poverty and war - obscene. Conservative Catholics who can't spell or reason - dumbass assholes.

Happy trails,
-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy


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#336242 - 06/12/08 03:54 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
misterz Offline
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I find it hard to quarrel with the Chinese. People were starving, something had to be done. The solution respects the right to bring about another generation, but addresses the terrible overpopulation problem. No one likes rationing of anything, but there are only so many resources to go around.

This world can support a lot more folks if more were vegetarian. That would sure help.

I don't think I have ever advocated taking away rights, absent abuse or crime.







As someone who comes from a family that is dedicated to protecting all rights through your service in the military (very applaudable) I find it very disheartening that you would find "no quarrel" with the chinese solution to overpoplulation.

You sates "SOMETHING' had to be done. What you fail to explain is exactly what that "SONMETHING" is. You say "their solution" doesnt take away rights. Lets examine what it is that you mean by "SOMETHING" and "THEIR SOLUTION"

1.If a woman has more than one baby, she is arrested, sentenced to up to five years in prison and is sterilized by a medical procedure, whether she wants it or not.

2. The father is imprisoned for up to five years, and for a second or third offense can be sentenced to life in prison.

3. A woman found to be pregnagnt with a second or third child also undergoes a MANDATORY abortion.

THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE NO QUARRELL WITH. Government sterilization, and forced abortion. Not so pretty as just describing it as "sonmething" and "their solution." Kind of like Hitlers solution to that nasty Jew problem.

Now lets say in 50 years, or sooner, someone in the united states decides that "SOMETHING' must be done to control the population. Will you have 'no quarrell' with our government doing the same thing? Oh wait, you sasy "stay out of my bedroom." And youre not a hypocrit? LMAO

And as far as saying catholics are a big part of the overpopulation problem, I dont see many catholics in China Or India (the largest populations). Who do you blame for the overpopulation isn these countries. It existed long befor GWB became president, so he's out, theres no catholics or christions there (actually a very minute % of the population), so their out. The answer is poverty. Poverty causes overpoplulation, not the other way around. I know that is probably a difficult concept for you to accept, but it is true.

For the record, since I have now been labeled a right wing extremeist; As I have stated numerous times in this post and others in the past:

I believe ALL sex work should be legal.
I beleive the U.S. should end all foriegn aid.
I believe GWB is one of the worst presidents in recent times.
I believe the oil companies have more control over GWB than the religious right could ever dream of.
I believe VOTING is the ultimate form of free speech.
I do not share the church's stance on birth control, or our governments use of GAG rules in sex ed.
I beleive all obscenity laws, are themselves obscene.
If that makes me a right wing loony then so be it.

And Charin, that photo of the place with alot of holes in the ground, as you describe it, maybe on your headstone their they will write, "Here lies Charin, He has no problem with the Chinese government solution to overpopulation."
When they plant you in that hole take a look around, those next to you will be turning over in their graves.

Their solution doesnt look so pretty when you look at the details. Lets hope their is never a "need" for our government to control our population. I'm sure Charin and his ilk will have no problem enforcing their solution, after all as Charin states, "Something had to be done."
It seems to me that Charin is one of those who believes "the end justifies the means."

But Charin does have the solution, eat more celery.

ALL VEGANS ARE DANGEROUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Inmy poinion, your stance on this issue is OBSCENE.

And I'll ask again, how many cahtolics and christians are there in China and India? Kind of puts a little damper on that argument about catholics causing overpoplutation. But nice try.


And as far as your laughable statement about being TRICKED into watching violent and offensive commercial during your ballgame, what a load of hogwash. Just like you say about Max's material, IF YOU DONT LIKE IT, THEN TURN IT OFF. You know full well those commercials are out there when you turn your t.v. on. Do you like the viagra commercials during baseball games. I think thy're hilarious, but it sure is unconmfortable when your ten year old daughter is watching isnt it? Kind of a cath 22 dont ya think? Or would you favor the governmetn doing "something" about it?


I WAS TRICKED INTO WATCHING OFFENSIVE COMMERCIALS ON TELEVISION.......NOW I HAVE HEARD IT ALL.



And this leads me to the final statement of yours quoted above...... "I do not believe I have advocated taking away rights, absent abuse or crime." And this is exactly what the Chinese do. Thety make it illegal to have more children, therfore when they punish you for it they are not abusing any rights, after all, by having those children you committed a criminal act.

Which correlates very well with the original topic here. By making obscenity illegal the government can punish its producers without violating any RIGHTS because it was a criminal act. I guess its ok for the chinese to do this , according to you, but not for our government to do it to us.(for the recored, i believe NEITHER govt. should have that right)

But then again, if you cant afford your rights, you have no right to them, or so the logic goes according to others posting here. Freedom and personal choice are a double edged sword. But the problems freedom, and freedom of choice bring upon us, are miniscule compared to the "solutions' you and you ILK would have thrust upon us.

And can anyone quote anything I have ever written which would lead somebody to believe I am a right wign christiam conservative. I am catholic but I only go to church about once or twice a year, depending totally on the number of friends of mine who have either died or are getting maried.
Putting such labels on someone ino order to minimize the value of their opinion is actually a propoganda technique called 'transference." And yes, I am very good at, like MNAY here, using subtle propoganda techniques ike this. But I admit it. Will you?

Kind of like saying, "Iwas in the military, and so was all of my family"..... its a way of 'transferring" the honorable aspects of military service to the "opinion" youre representing. You try to transfer the honor and respect of the military to your opinion. It just doesnt jive. WE ALL USE PROPOGANDA, WE JUST DONT ALL ADMIT IT. At least i do.







Edited by misterz (06/12/08 05:52 PM)

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#336243 - 06/12/08 06:05 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
who Offline
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Jesus fucking Christ, you are a windmill of sad.

Take your ritalin.


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#336244 - 06/12/08 06:14 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
misterz Offline
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Registered: 04/09/08
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Jesus fucking Christ, you are a windmill of sad.

Take your ritalin.


I'd rather take a bong hit. And, as a christian, I'm very sorry that expressing an opinion that differs from the majority here is seen as such a disservice to the board. Please forgive me. I cant live without your acceptance.

P.S. If you dont like it dont read it. Nobody is forcing you. Like it or not, I have the same rights as you. The only difference is,... I respect your rights and your opinions, and i encourage you to voice them, even if i disagree. Can you say the same?
Shall I get into the propoganda technique YOU just used regarding name calling.




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#336245 - 06/12/08 06:22 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
misterz Offline
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FATMAN WROTE;
No. You said we should pay for these foreigner to have as many kids as they want.



Sorry. You lose.






Please show me where I said anything that is even remotely close to that. ANYBODY.

And Fatman, that thing about the religious right somehow being responsible for you not being able to grow HEMP, that was really funny. Now quick, make a comment on my spelling, it will make you look more intelligent. (thats called sarcasm, it too is a propoganda technique.)


Edited by misterz (06/12/08 06:24 PM)

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#336246 - 06/12/08 06:27 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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FATMAN WROTE;
No. You said we should pay for these foreigner to have as many kids as they want.



Sorry. You lose.






Please show me where I said anything that is even remotely close to that. ANYBODY.

And Fatman, that thing about the religious right somehow being responsible for you not being able to grow HEMP, that was really funny. Now quick, make a comment on my spelling, it will make you look more intelligent. (thats called sarcasm, it too is a propoganda technique.)





And if they are in their own country, they arent foreigners.

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#336247 - 06/12/08 06:39 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Can you homos go someplace else and bicker?
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#336248 - 06/12/08 06:45 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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After all the backpedaling, name calling , and misrepresenting what I have written here, still not one person here has the COURAGE, not even our military hero, has the guts to answer, what means should these governments use to achieve the goal of population control? You want all of the freedoms that you believe you are entitled to but put conditions or prices on those same freedoms for every one else. How many ways can you say hypocrite? dodge, backpedal call names, and misrepresent, but god forbid answer one simple question. lol




But you have an answer, and it's the correct one, right? That reeks alot like the 'president' of my union local, and he's a 'man of god'. Therefore, anything he does is of course, 'the right way'.

Alot of what's being misconstrued here is 'freedom of speech' -v- 'freedom to do whatever we please'.

So these poor, povety-stricken people, what are they doing with all these children? Eating them? No, they are using them for WELFARE. The welfare system needs to curl up & die somewhere, or at least be limited heavily.
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#336249 - 06/12/08 07:00 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
misterz Offline
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Registered: 04/09/08
Posts: 108
Quote:

Quote:

After all the backpedaling, name calling , and misrepresenting what I have written here, still not one person here has the COURAGE, not even our military hero, has the guts to answer, what means should these governments use to achieve the goal of population control? You want all of the freedoms that you believe you are entitled to but put conditions or prices on those same freedoms for every one else. How many ways can you say hypocrite? dodge, backpedal call names, and misrepresent, but god forbid answer one simple question. lol




But you have an answer, and it's the correct one, right? That reeks alot like the 'president' of my union local, and he's a 'man of god'. Therefore, anything he does is of course, 'the right way'.

Alot of what's being misconstrued here is 'freedom of speech' -v- 'freedom to do whatever we please'.





Jack i agree, and also apologize for my name calling inearlier posts. There is a differnce betwen 'rights' and 'wants".

I have an opinion as to what I think is right. As do you and everyone else.

I'm not sure where this falls..I have th 'right' to watch max,,,,or i 'want' to watch max. I think it is a right. The overuse of propoganda on all sides only confuses the issue. Just like your unioun prez is "always right" because he is a man of god, is no more or no less insulting than ALL CHRISTIANS ARE DANGEROUS...implying that all of their opions are likewise dangerous. Its an argument for the weak, who cant justify their own opinions, so they ATTEMPT, to discredit with personal swipes the opinions thay cant refute with logic. (note my own use of sublte propoganda here, but also notice, I admit it)


Sounds like your union prez. is very good at the 'tranference' technique of propoganda.

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#336250 - 06/12/08 07:04 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Quote:


Sounds like your union prez. is very good at the 'tranference' technique of propoganda.




First of all, he's not really our 'prez' because he appointed himself to the position after no one voted anyone else in (proper ballots weren't handed out per union guidelines).

Secondly, he believe he's "right", because "the man above tells him so". So his authority is based on a fictional being telling him that the decisions he's making on behalf of the union are "OK".

I don't call it propoganda or transference, I call it delusional.
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#336251 - 06/12/08 07:41 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Registered: 04/09/08
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Quote:

Quote:


Sounds like your union prez. is very good at the 'tranference' technique of propoganda.




First of all, he's not really our 'prez' because he appointed himself to the position after no one voted anyone else in (proper ballots weren't handed out per union guidelines).

Secondly, he believe he's "right", because "the man above tells him so". So his authority is based on a fictional being telling him that the decisions he's making on behalf of the union are "OK".

I don't call it propoganda or transference, I call it delusional.




Now that kind of looks like youre doing the same thing he does. It looks to me like if someone doesnt agree with your opinion about religion they are dillusional. And actually what you just did right here is a picture perfect example of transference propoganda. At least i admit to using propoganda, while others here who do the same thing deny it even when it is pointed out to them with absolute clarity. Dillusional indeed. Call it what you want but, a rose by any other name is still a rose.

I just love to see everyone here get so upset when they get called on their bullshit, and cant, for the life of them, accept that their opinion isnt shared by everyone else. But when you are that close minded then its hard to see your own contradictions, and in my opinion, many people here are as close minded about their own opinions as they accuse the religious right of being about thier opinions. Thats why you call them dillusional, or say all christians are dangerous, or call names. To paraphrase a famous christian prayer, please forgive my tresspasses, as I forgive those who tresspass against me.....or perhaps i should use a more simple old saying for those here who cannot see past their own closed minded opinions(imho).......stciks and stones may break my bones, but douche-bags like you will never hurt me. (and for the record i use 4, count them4 differnt propoganda techniques in one post, which is actually far less than most of you use in your posts. But I have the guts to admit it.

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#336252 - 06/12/08 07:42 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
misterz Offline
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Registered: 04/09/08
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Quote:

Quote:

Quote:


Sounds like your union prez. is very good at the 'tranference' technique of propoganda.




First of all, he's not really our 'prez' because he appointed himself to the position after no one voted anyone else in (proper ballots weren't handed out per union guidelines).

Secondly, he believe he's "right", because "the man above tells him so". So his authority is based on a fictional being telling him that the decisions he's making on behalf of the union are "OK".

I don't call it propoganda or transference, I call it delusional.




Now that kind of looks like youre doing the same thing he does. It looks to me like if someone doesnt agree with your opinion about religion they are dillusional. And actually what you just did right here is a picture perfect example of transference propoganda. At least i admit to using propoganda, while others here who do the same thing deny it even when it is pointed out to them with absolute clarity. Dillusional indeed. Call it what you want but, a rose by any other name is still a rose. Just because you dont call it propoganda doesnt mean it isnt, in my opinion.

I just love to see everyone here get so upset when they get called on their bullshit, and cant, for the life of them, accept that their opinion isnt shared by everyone else. But when you are that close minded then its hard to see your own contradictions, and in my opinion, many people here are as close minded about their own opinions as they accuse the religious right of being about thier opinions. Thats why you call them dillusional, or say all christians are dangerous, or call names. To paraphrase a famous christian prayer, please forgive my tresspasses, as I forgive those who tresspass against me.....or perhaps i should use a more simple old saying for those here who cannot see past their own closed minded opinions(imho).......stciks and stones may break my bones, but douche-bags like you will never hurt me. (and for the record i use 4, count them4 differnt propoganda techniques in one post, which is actually far less than most of you use in your posts. But I have the guts to admit it.



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#336253 - 06/12/08 07:44 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Will you please stop quoting half-a-page of text and not responding to it. Especially when its the post you just made?

Thank you.

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#336254 - 06/12/08 08:08 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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I think you meant to tell him to shut the fuck up.
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#336255 - 06/12/08 08:15 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
misterz Offline
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Quote:

Will you please stop quoting half-a-page of text and not responding to it. Especially when its the post you just made?

Thank you.




Since you asked so politely, yes.

edited for dyslexia


Edited by misterz (06/12/08 08:19 PM)

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#336256 - 06/12/08 08:18 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
misterz Offline
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Registered: 04/09/08
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I think you meant to tell him to shut the fuck up.




And since youre such a cocksucking faggot, you can kiss my god fearing ass.

see, i'm really no better than you . maybe thats what
scares ya. but i'll admit it.

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#336257 - 06/12/08 08:33 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Thanks Care Less.
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#336258 - 06/14/08 06:26 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Now that kind of looks like youre doing the same thing he does. It looks to me like if someone doesnt agree with your opinion about religion they are dillusional.




You seriously are a dumb fuck.

If everything he does is 'right' in his own life, that's fine. But the decisions he makes representing us as a whole are indeed delusional. He's ONLY entitled to practice them in his own home.

You don't admit to shit bub, it just falls in your lap like the whore at the last titty bar you may have visited. The 'propaganda' crap you're discussing is just an excuse to give you the faux vision that you yourself are correct.

You obviously missed the point, carry on with your retarded ramblings now.

Meh.
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#336259 - 06/16/08 08:33 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Registered: 01/16/06
Posts: 467
Loc: Yankee Stadium
Max is a pioneer, pushing the envelope of porn. No one was hurt in his films and if you don't like them-don't look at them. If piss,vomit,and girls acting young are crimes then what is next- anal sex? I hope Max wins on appeal.


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#336260 - 06/18/08 09:36 AM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Registered: 03/23/05
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So what happens now?
What is he expecting to get from September 5's sentence?

Prison raep on the way?



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#336261 - 06/18/08 10:26 AM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
Gigi Offline
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Registered: 05/18/06
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too bad max won't get a shot to piss on r. kelly in prison. although r. kelly would prob. like it.
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#336262 - 06/18/08 12:49 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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I'm betting Max will be treated as a hero in prison.

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#336263 - 06/18/08 01:09 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Quote:

I'm betting Max will be treated as a hero in prison.




I agree. Assuming he goes to prison at all. Given the controversial nature of his "offense," he just might be allowed out on bail pending appeal.

Even if he does go, it's not like they're going to put him in the supermax facility in Florence. He'll end up on Terminal Island or in Lompoc.

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#336264 - 06/18/08 09:22 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Quote:

I'm betting Max will be treated as a hero in prison.




Club fed will be nice to max....he will be asked for autographs...just like mike tyson....but like jim said....min to med security....someplace G. Gordon Liddy graduated from.

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