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#336178 - 06/08/08 05:59 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Ummm.. that was Fatty. I'm the one quoting dead Lutherans.

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#336179 - 06/08/08 06:15 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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It doesn't take 15 miles of screen scroll to ask Fatman to clarify what he means by countries controlling their populations.

=Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
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#336180 - 06/08/08 06:29 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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It doesn't take 15 miles of screen scroll to ask Fatman to clarify what he means by countries controlling their populations.





Chuck Rocks.

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#336181 - 06/08/08 07:05 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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The ultimate joke is that after his conviction is thrown out on appeal....is that not only after the government has misused taxpayer funds to persecute a businessman...operating a legitimate business…...that has also paid his and his companies taxes as well..... That the government that doesn’t want to glorify any aspect of the adult industry has just paid for free advertising for max hardcore for several decades....

The harsh reality is that for all of the government’s effort for any of their so called “wars” is that it just exacerbates the issue more and that finally there is no such thing as bad publicity.

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#336182 - 06/08/08 07:58 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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More attacks by the cross bullies on anything "sexual!"
http://thereporter.com/ci_9500406

Not-so 'Secret' shoppers
Pastor to put store's visitors on YouTube
By Melissa Murphy
Article Launched: 06/06/2008 05:55:53 AM PDT

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Jeremy White, of Vacaville, stands outside the Secrets store with his video camera and a sign...

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"Smile - You're on YouTube."

That's the greeting some customers receive as they are about to enter the new Secrets: Lingerie Boutique on East Monte Vista Avenue.

The new lingerie/adult store captured plenty of media attention in opening last Friday, just moments before the City Council passed an ordinance enacting a moratorium on adult businesses and the sale of adult products.

Since that time, however, it is Vacaville resident Jeremy White and a handful of others who have kept a spotlight on the store - literally. The group periodically sets up a video camera in front of the store to tape people walking into the business.

"We are not here because we're against sex or lingerie," White said. "I'm a happily married man and I love both of those things. We're here because the gateway to our city is not the location for a porn shop."

White's "YouTube" sign on a black board with white lettering also says "Sex Good, Porn Bad."

"I'm not trying to embarrass anybody," White said. "If you have absolutely no question of conscience about entering this store, then by all means shop away. However, if even only one of the dozens of customers we've deterred from entering is a married person about to do something shady behind their spouse's back then - mission accomplished."

Secrets District Manager Jim Lukes said Vacaville residents don't have anything to worry about because his store isn't like the Secrets chain stores in Fairfield and Vallejo.

"The reality is we're
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not adult," Lukes said. "We're a lingerie store and we're different than those other stores."

The group against the business has received mixed reactions in regard to its taping - some by people entering while making obscene gestures to the camera, others by those giving thumbs up and honking in support.

On Tuesday afternoon, a handful of Vacaville residents from several different churches gathered together to pray outside the business.

"We live in a blessed community," said Kelly Hamilton. "We want to keep it that way."

Hamilton and others explained that they've been prayin

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#336183 - 06/08/08 08:00 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Registered: 02/15/07
Posts: 259
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Quote:

More attacks by the cross bullies on anything "sexual!"
http://thereporter.com/ci_9500406

Not-so 'Secret' shoppers
Pastor to put store's visitors on YouTube
By Melissa Murphy
Article Launched: 06/06/2008 05:55:53 AM PDT

Click photo to enlarge
Jeremy White, of Vacaville, stands outside the Secrets store with his video camera and a sign...

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* 1
* 2
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"Smile - You're on YouTube."

That's the greeting some customers receive as they are about to enter the new Secrets: Lingerie Boutique on East Monte Vista Avenue.

The new lingerie/adult store captured plenty of media attention in opening last Friday, just moments before the City Council passed an ordinance enacting a moratorium on adult businesses and the sale of adult products.

Since that time, however, it is Vacaville resident Jeremy White and a handful of others who have kept a spotlight on the store - literally. The group periodically sets up a video camera in front of the store to tape people walking into the business.

"We are not here because we're against sex or lingerie," White said. "I'm a happily married man and I love both of those things. We're here because the gateway to our city is not the location for a porn shop."

White's "YouTube" sign on a black board with white lettering also says "Sex Good, Porn Bad."

"I'm not trying to embarrass anybody," White said. "If you have absolutely no question of conscience about entering this store, then by all means shop away. However, if even only one of the dozens of customers we've deterred from entering is a married person about to do something shady behind their spouse's back then - mission accomplished."

Secrets District Manager Jim Lukes said Vacaville residents don't have anything to worry about because his store isn't like the Secrets chain stores in Fairfield and Vallejo.

"The reality is we're
Advertisement
not adult," Lukes said. "We're a lingerie store and we're different than those other stores."

The group against the business has received mixed reactions in regard to its taping - some by people entering while making obscene gestures to the camera, others by those giving thumbs up and honking in support.

On Tuesday afternoon, a handful of Vacaville residents from several different churches gathered together to pray outside the business.

"We live in a blessed community," said Kelly Hamilton. "We want to keep it that way."

Hamilton and others explained that they've been praying and that they don't wish harm on the employees of Secrets, but that they would like to see the business close.

"We hope everybody involved will come out of this with a clean heart," Hamilton said.

Resident Laura Granzella agreed.

"I don't want us to be seen as a threat," she said. "This isn't personal to the employees, but rather we're a concerned community.

"Hopefully the community can grow together through this," Granzella added.

Others believe that an adult store next to the highway could damage Vacaville's reputation.

"Vacaville is one of the few cities to be known as a family oriented community," said Tim Bittle, a youth pastor at The Father's House. "We don't need businesses like this. If we add stores like this into the equation, we'll turn into other cities. The entrance of Vacaville is not a place for this."

White said that although he is a pastor of student ministries at Valley Church, he is peacefully protesting on his own time as a concerned resident.

"I think the video is a fun way to talk about an issue that's important to us," he said. "I am aware of youth that struggle with sexual addiction so there is a personal element of heartache - pornography sends a false message to boys and girls."

White said the tape will take a little while to edit, but will be posted on YouTube soon.




how are they not hurting the employees if they are trying to put them out of a job in a fucked up economy.The fear of being like other citys is pathatic even pensacola has titty bars.

They are'nt the only ones in the country doing shit like this depriving people of there freedom of expression.
In Texas there is a pastor taping people coming out of a porn shop the scary part is he works with the police so he finds out what addresses of the customers then sends them mail hoping if they're married they get busted. no one likes a snitch

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#336184 - 06/08/08 08:03 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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#336185 - 06/08/08 09:57 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Ummm.. that was Fatty. I'm the one quoting dead Lutherans.





my bad lutherans are DANGEROUS people. Im Catholic, or could you have guessed. have a good day

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#336186 - 06/08/08 10:08 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Yeah, man. I totally feel ya. Just last week, a van full of Lutherans drove down my block, pulled in front of the Presbyterian church and squeezed off about a dozen rounds before hightailing it out of there.

I, for one, was scared.

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#336187 - 06/08/08 11:53 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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It doesn't take 15 miles of screen scroll to ask Fatman to clarify what he means by countries controlling their populations.

=Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy




By "clarify" do you mean backpeddle, and try to explain how depriving other peoples reproductive rights in poor developing countries is somehow going to protect those very rights we have here. Total freedom for us lucky americans, and "population control" for others. Very Libertarian indeed. Sounds a little more Talibanish to me. Oh, wait, GWB is the taliban,right.

It is people with that type of mentality that pose much more danger to the "erosion" of our rights than the bible thumpers ever will. In my opinion.

A "LIBERTARIAN" advocating 'population control". Now to anyone who TRUELY understands Libertarianism, thatis the funniest thing I've ever heard. If there were such a thing as a card carrying libertarian,,the party would ask for your card back.

Yes, the right wing is full of shit. I just dont fear them as much as everyone here, adn I dont believe they have the power that many here give them credit for.

Or perhaps the Fatman can explain, or CLAIFY, for all of us how wonderfully that communist china "population control" program is working out.




Like any vice, taken too far its gets dangerous,and can take a toll physically and mentally on people. I am not advocating taking the choice to do those things away, I'm just being honest by saying that YES, these things are bad for you. Go ahead and do it, but dont tell me it doesnt cause any problems for individuals and society in genereal.(gambling,drugs,porn,etc.etc.)


Edited by misterz (06/09/08 12:03 AM)

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#336188 - 06/09/08 02:16 AM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Then you describe yourself as LIBERTARIAN To deny people the right to have children is is the grossest human rights violation there is.


How can you possibly reconcile those two positions. You cant tell the U.S. government to stay out of your bedroom, and at the same time INSIST that other governments do exactly that before they recieve your money.

Or is it that your true position is more like, I want everyhing i want and i deserve evverything I want, and to hell with everyone else because I want it.





No. If your rights require financial subsidy it's not your "right". If it requires my money for you to express your "rights", I should get a say in your actions.

You want 50 kids and it won't cost me a dime? Great!

If you cannot afford a lifestyle choice, why should I be required to subsidize it?

I don't think you have the right to have children if you cannot support them. Sorry. Once again, that's someone else's "right" that compels for my compliance. It interferes in my Life.

Their "right" directly costs me money I'd rather spend elsewhere. That's sticking their hand directly into my pocket to pay for their choices.

If you can't afford a kid and you elect to have one anyway, I can choose not to help you. If others feel that you should, they set up foundations, put up their money and leave me out.

Max isn't asking for federal subsidy or tax breaks to make his porn. The federal government should not be under any obligation to provide him with money to pursue his "art". They should not pay for DVDs for people who want to watch his porn.

If such things existed, in my opinion opponents of this lifestyle choice could rightfully say "I don't want to pay for that".


Can you understand the difference, at long last?




I said I was Libertarian on free speech. As was evidenced in the array of canidates I've supported, my views are not contrained to any one ideology.

Having kids isn't speech or art or expression.

I think that if developing countries controlled their population, they would get out of poverty faster. At this rate, they'll never get out of poverty. Controlling population is being mature and responsible.

Most middle-class Americans limit the number of children to what they can afford. There's no reason that cannot happen in the third world.


EDIT: btw, I'm not FORCING them to stop having kids. I'm just not going to pay for them. They can still "express themselves" and have as many as they want ... WITHOUT MY MONEY.

They can do what they want ...
I can do what I want ...

Perfect.
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#336189 - 06/09/08 07:31 AM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Fatman, please "CLAIFY" for us, and post it on YouTube. We'll determine if it meets community standards.

-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
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#336190 - 06/09/08 11:12 AM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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So, my question to the good pastor & his wholesome minions of the lawdy god...

Where exactly DO these businesses belong, if not on a stretch of highway where they can attract patrons?

Would they be better suited in a warehouse district, or some dirty old city, a ghetto? Please, suggest. This is the problem with media today. No one ever has a solution other than "close 'em down". My question is "where should we relocate, and are you do-gooders willing to pay the costs associated with moving us (moving, new building, sale of the old one, etc.)?"

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But next you say..."I dont believe in providing food aid to countries WHO ARE NOT CONTROLLING THEIR POPULATIONS."

While you worry about a womans right to seek an abortion, you at the sasme time SEEM to advocate that OTHER governments control the very rights that you and I hold so dear in this country, and will kill or die to defend.




I didn't get that out of Fattie's post whatsoever. Showing how differently you read that proves how fucking stupid you are.

I understood it to mean that THEY can fuck like jackrabbits until their balls turn bruise purple. However, WE shouldn't be funding their ignorance of continually producing new mouths to feed. Obviously, hunger is going to be a problem in a country where they are getting pregnant just for the hell of it.

I'd rather they kill themselves off through starvation, maybe than they'd get a fucking clue. By enabling them (with funding for food), they're just useless niggers utilizing the good samaritaism of others like those same parties take advantage of the welfare system within our own borders.
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#336191 - 06/09/08 11:49 AM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Registered: 04/09/08
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Then you describe yourself as LIBERTARIAN To deny people the right to have children is is the grossest human rights violation there is.


How can you possibly reconcile those two positions. You cant tell the U.S. government to stay out of your bedroom, and at the same time INSIST that other governments do exactly that before they recieve your money.

Or is it that your true position is more like, I want everyhing i want and i deserve evverything I want, and to hell with everyone else because I want it.





No. If your rights require financial subsidy it's not your "right". If it requires my money for you to express your "rights", I should get a say in your actions.

You want 50 kids and it won't cost me a dime? Great!

If you cannot afford a lifestyle choice, why should I be required to subsidize it?

I don't think you have the right to have children if you cannot support them. Sorry. Once again, that's someone else's "right" that compels for my compliance. It interferes in my Life.

Their "right" directly costs me money I'd rather spend elsewhere. That's sticking their hand directly into my pocket to pay for their choices.

If you can't afford a kid and you elect to have one anyway, I can choose not to help you. If others feel that you should, they set up foundations, put up their money and leave me out.

Max isn't asking for federal subsidy or tax breaks to make his porn. The federal government should not be under any obligation to provide him with money to pursue his "art". They should not pay for DVDs for people who want to watch his porn.

If such things existed, in my opinion opponents of this lifestyle choice could rightfully say "I don't want to pay for that".


Can you understand the difference, at long last?




I said I was Libertarian on free speech. As was evidenced in the array of canidates I've supported, my views are not contrained to any one ideology.

Having kids isn't speech or art or expression.

I think that if developing countries controlled their population, they would get out of poverty faster. At this rate, they'll never get out of poverty. Controlling population is being mature and responsible.

Most middle-class Americans limit the number of children to what they can afford. There's no reason that cannot happen in the third world.


EDIT: btw, I'm not FORCING them to stop having kids. I'm just not going to pay for them. They can still "express themselves" and have as many as they want ... WITHOUT MY MONEY.

They can do what they want ...
I can do what I want ...

Perfect.




You seem tovequate exercising fundamental human rights with having money. Personally, I think we should stop all forieghn aid, but thats another issue.

But nowhere in your reply do you answer the question, What sould those other governments do to "control their population" as YOU say. Forced steriliZation, forced abortions(welcome to china,fatman)....As a matter of fact, in your reply you dont evenmention YOUR phrase,"control the poplulation'

I'm sorry, but in my book your position on any FREEDOM issues is hugely compromised when you even suggest that government should 'control the poulaion.'

You say your "views are not constrained to one ideology" I agree. It alson seems that you embrace the ideology of communist china when it comes to 'population control." Then in your response you ssy,"Im not forcing them to stop having kids......." Well genius, what do you think government population control is?


1. Why did you not mention population control in your backpeddle response?

2. What means do you suggest ohter countries take to control their population?(criminalize people for having too many childre, forced sterilizations and abortions)


3. Does anyone here agree with Fatman, that governmetns should 'control the populaion'?



Hey fatman, should MY tax dollars pay for some other kids education? I dont have kids, so should I have to give MY money to public schools to educate other peopls kids?

I think the overall selfishness, and ME first at all costs, of your so called political ideology, as unsustainable as it is(freedom for ME poulation control for you), is typical of the extreme left, and you would be better suited to explore YOUR own hypocrisy.


And regarding "sticking their hands into my pockets<' we all play for things we dontl like with our taxes,, Did you ever have a kid in pulic schools, or did you or anyone you know ever go to public schools? How do you feel about the people who pay for their own kids to go to private school, but also have to pay for your kids to go to public school?Heck, according to your belief, if they cant afford to educate their own kids then, like YOU said, I DONT THINK YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE CHILDREN IF YOU CANT AFFORD THEM." Ah yes, the more money you have, the more rights you have. Who here agrees with that? And who makes that desicion? YOU!!!! Oh wait, you want the government to make that decision.(population control).


Oh wait, Im sorry, you did mention population control in your reply..."I think that if developing countries CONTROLLED their population they would get out of poverty faster? (how does this statement correlate to your statement.."I;m not forcing them to stop haveing kids.) Again I ask you, o mister libertarian defender of freedom, exactly how should these governments 'control the population? Should they use 'any means necessary?'

Freedom and human rights for all(that is all who can AFFORD it according to fatman) The last time I cheked the Constitiution didnt have a pricetag. YOUR ideology is far scarier than the religious right, in my opinion. By any chance, do you speak chinese?

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#336192 - 06/09/08 11:55 AM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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my bad lutherans are DANGEROUS people. Im Catholic, or could you have guessed. have a good day




Any they're any better? Have any little boys over for lunch today, pastor?

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#336193 - 06/09/08 11:57 AM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Registered: 04/09/08
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I didn't get that out of Jim's post whatsoever. I understood it to mean that we should be controlling their population, rather that we just shouldn't be funding their ignorance of continually producing new life. [/quote


To suggest any type of 'population controlby the government' ours or any other,is patently offensive to anyone who believes in any freedom at all. If you think any government whould in any way 'control the population" then I guess i really dont know how to argue with that. How could you possibly advocate giving any government that type of authority. It boggle my mind.

Stay out of MY bedroom, but dont say out of theirs. A very very veryvery very hypocritical philosophy. And you all say you want to defend freedoms? What a joke.

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#336194 - 06/09/08 12:00 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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my bad lutherans are DANGEROUS people. Im Catholic, or could you have guessed. have a good day




Any they're any better? Have any little boys over for lunch today, pastor?






Those pesky Lutherans, always running around nailing things to doors...much worse than the Catholics molesting boys.
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#336195 - 06/09/08 12:00 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Touche fucker, it's already been edited to clarify what I meant.

What's up with your inability to 'quote' properly anyway?
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#336196 - 06/09/08 12:04 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Fatman, please "CLAIFY" for us, and post it on YouTube. We'll determine if it meets community standards.

-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy




Genius.
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#336197 - 06/09/08 12:06 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Is it just me, but...?

Misterz seems good with words (when he can edit them), but his typographical grammer sucks turgid moose penis?

BTW, do you even understand the concept behind the public school system? It's an opportunity for EVERYONE to get an education, not just those who can afford it. If the government didn't assist, we'd have a nation full of dummies. The bigger problem is, those who CAN afford a private education are usually leaching off the system, and thus their children become the average dummy, too.
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#336198 - 06/09/08 12:08 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Registered: 04/09/08
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Touche fucker, it's already been edited to clarify what I meant.

What's up with your inability to 'quote' properly anyway?




What a great comeback. I'm speechless. You've obviously got some great intellectual insight that few here could ever dream of matching. The only problem is, you wouldnt dare say that to someones face, but behind a keyboard you're a real warrior. I now third graders who have more insight inot the harsh realities of real life than you. But why am I talking about reality here in fantasy land. After al, this is the place where people dont think Max Hardcore vidoes are obscene. Talk about denial. You guys crakc me up, youre like the clowns on the bicycle at the circus, always peddling backwards.

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#336199 - 06/09/08 12:13 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
misterz Offline
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Registered: 04/09/08
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Quote:

Is it just me, but...?

Misterz seems good with words (when he can edit them), but his typographical grammer sucks turgid moose penis?






And As i have stated before, when you have no argument against the substance of a post, then attack the grammer and puntuation. Any time anyone does that it is just like saying, " Of course you are correct, but I dont like it and I cant intelligentyl rebut the argument, so I'll just call you a fucker and believe that I win the argument.

I think you are truely full of Jack Shit, but you sure do spell good. Oh wait, I see a "mother' comment coming.

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#336200 - 06/09/08 12:13 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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The only problem is, you wouldnt dare say that to someones face, but behind a keyboard you're a real warrior.




Wanna bet? And if I did, what recourse do you have (in mind), eh?

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I now third graders who have more insight inot the harsh realities of real life than you.




Please explain this word, I've never seen it before.

You backpedal just as much as anyone else, it shows in your 'edited by' at the end of each post. The only thing you lack, mental warrior, is your ability to spell or type correctly.

Your haste in typing out the steam you're blowing off as a result of our brow-beating is comical.
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#336201 - 06/09/08 12:20 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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The bigger problem is, those who CAN afford a private education are usually leaching off the system, and thus their children become the average dummy, too.




I understand your argument that pulci education is needed to fundamently maintain society. But to say that those who could afford private education are somehow LEECHES is absurd. Most people i know who can afford it get their kids out of public shools as fast as they can. But to call someone a LEECH for using the programs that THEIR money pays for, is ridiculous. There seems to be alot of CLASS ENVY here, and if you dont see the danger in equating exercising ones righta with the fatness of ones wallet, then i would have to think that youre a product of the public school system and are just one of those "average dummies."

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#336202 - 06/09/08 12:23 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Yup, I agree.

So did yo' mama when I asked her about you, oh carnal encyclopedia.
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#336203 - 06/09/08 12:26 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
misterz Offline
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Quote:

Quote:

The only problem is, you wouldnt dare say that to someones face, but behind a keyboard you're a real warrior.




Wanna bet? And if I did, what recourse do you have (in mind), eh?

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I now third graders who have more insight inot the harsh realities of real life than you.




Please explain this word, I've never seen it before.

You backpedal just as much as anyone else, it shows in your 'edited by' at the end of each post. The only thing you lack, mental warrior, is your ability to spell or type correctly.

Your haste in typing out the steam you're blowing off as a result of our brow-beating is comical.




I'm so hurt, youve attacked my typing skills. If you realy were that smart, you would notice that the majority of my mistakes are dyslexic in nature. For example, writing "inot" instead of "into" or hitting the "l" button when I should hit the "S". Yes, I am severely dyslexic. I'm sorry if you think that diminishes the arguments I make.As if it makes your points any more valid.

And I never changed the substane of a post with editing. Sometimes i fix grammer, spelling, or add a sentence or two, but i have NEVER changed the substance of a post by editing it. I have also used the edit to remove personal swipes Ive taken at people a few times. But, good try though. In my eyes you have truel and beyond any and all doubt proved that you are indeed the one and ony JACK SHIT
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So keep on attacking my spelling. It really does make you look smart goober. And anytime you want to get together just pm me. I will gladly fly you here to L.A. from anywhere so we can have alittle face time. Ican AFFORD it, so I guess its my RIGHT to offer it.


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#336204 - 06/09/08 12:35 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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There is that neat little email that floats around saying how you still manage to read a message even if the whole thing were misspelled.

However, El G's posts are more legible than your own. That's bad when I have to double take at your diatribes to understand them.
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#336205 - 06/09/08 01:03 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Don't attack his spelling, that's juvenile. Accept his challenge to a fist fight.

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#336206 - 06/09/08 01:06 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Quote:

There is that neat little email that floats around saying how you still manage to read a message even if the whole thing were misspelled.

However, El G's posts are more legible than your own. That's bad when I have to double take at your diatribes to understand them.




You could do double, triple, as many takes as you want, I doubt you could ever understand them. They contain thoughts that are much to complicated for you to mentally process.

And your attempted propoganda type useage of the word diatribe, to describe my posts is actually very facist in nature. When you cant argue with the substance then go after the messanger, and use dismissive comments to try to bellittle the argument that you have still neve addressed.

Maybe you should be an English teacher. Oh wait, who here would want you around their kids all day?

And from now on I am going to do my best to spell correctly. That way you willhave absolutely nothing to debate with me, because you surely cant't win on the merits of your positions.


Edited by misterz (06/09/08 01:10 PM)

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#336207 - 06/09/08 01:08 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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And As i have stated before, when you have no argument against the substance of a post, then attack the grammer and puntuation. Any time anyone does that it is just like saying, " Of course you are correct, but I dont like it and I cant intelligentyl rebut the argument, so I'll just call you a fucker and believe that I win the argument.

I think you are truely full of Jack Shit, but you sure do spell good. Oh wait, I see a "mother' comment coming.




Isn't that something you only do on 4th and long? Seriously dude, it's hard to follow your argument when you type like this. I just keep hearing your words in Chris Burke's voice...



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#336208 - 06/09/08 01:10 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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He's not misspelling, he's catholic, so you know he's just drunk.

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#336209 - 06/09/08 01:12 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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You seem tovequate exercising fundamental human rights with having money....


<snip>


...By any chance, do you speak chinese?




I'm sorry. I couldn't read any of that in the middle. But the parts above are one of the funniest things I've seen on XPT in months. Thank You.

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#336210 - 06/09/08 01:14 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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I didn't get that out of Jim's post whatsoever...




AGAIN: That's Fatty, not me. I just quoted from a guy who learned the hard way about speaking out.

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#336211 - 06/09/08 01:28 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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And As i have stated before, when you have no argument against the substance of a post, then attack the grammer and puntuation. Any time anyone does that it is just like saying, " Of course you are correct, but I dont like it and I cant intelligentyl rebut the argument, so I'll just call you a fucker and believe that I win the argument.

I think you are truely full of Jack Shit, but you sure do spell good. Oh wait, I see a "mother' comment coming.




Isn't that something you only do on 4th and long? Seriously dude, it's hard to follow your argument when you type like this. I just keep hearing your words in Chris Burke's voice...







Wow, you guys here get really desperate when someone comes in and shoots your arguments to hell. Is this really the BEST you can do? I guess so. I dont't really think the problem is my spelling, I think the problem is my opinion, while contrary to yours, holds more water and makes more sense than you're willing to admit. I freely admit that many opinions, and responses to my opinions have alot of merit and make some good points, I wonder if anybody here will say the same about me?

Like I said in another thread, some things are just too complicated to be intelligently disscussed here.

And while yes, my spelling and punctualtion leaves alot to be desired, you must be really mentally challenged if that is what makes the substacne of the post so difficult for you to undestand. I contend that it would be hard for you to follow my arguments regardless of the grammar.

Now that you have failed in your attempt to derail the argument lets get back to the basic question.

Do you believe, as fatman does, that GOVERNMENTS should 'control the population?" And if so, then how? And how does that position reconcile with all of the freedoms that everyone here is saying are being eroded here?


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#336212 - 06/09/08 01:31 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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After al, this is the place where people dont think Max Hardcore vidoes are obscene. Talk about denial. You guys crakc me up, youre like the clowns on the bicycle at the circus, always peddling backwards.




I'll tell you what's obscene.

My lady AA friends do it right, they never break a confidence. But they have shared with me in a general way some demons some of the new women face. There is REAL sexual and physical abuse in this community, and no doubt in yours. And I never hear about the non-alcoholic women, the single mothers who struggle because they left an abusive situation. And while resources remain very thin for these abused and forgotten women, the feds spend like drunken sailors to control what some old asshole like me masturbates to. Because there is a consensual depiction of abuse.

That's obscene.

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#336213 - 06/09/08 01:31 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
misterz Offline
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Quote:

Quote:

You seem tovequate exercising fundamental human rights with having money....


<snip>

I got to give you that one JIM.


...By any chance, do you speak chinese?




I'm sorry. I couldn't read any of that in the middle. But the parts above are one of the funniest things I've seen on XPT in months. Thank You.



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#336214 - 06/09/08 01:38 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Wow, you guys here get really desperate when someone comes in and shoots your arguments to hell.




Perhaps. But that hasn't happened here.


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Is this really the BEST you can do?




Not by a long shot, Skippy.

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I dont't really think the problem is my spelling




Ummm... yeah it is. Your grammar and syntax aren't much to write home about, either.

Quote:

I think the problem is my opinion...




If I could figure out what the hell you were talking about, I might be inclined to agree. Would you be so kind as to "CLAIFY" your position a bit?

Quote:

Some things are just too complicated to be intelligently disscussed here.




How would you know?

Quote:

And whil yes, my spelling and punctualtion leaves alot to be desired, you must be really mentally challenged if that is what makes the substacne of the post so difficult for you to undestand.






In addition to English, I speak Spanish, Porn Whore and some German. And for the life of me, I have no idea what you're going on about. It's funny as Hell, though.


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#336215 - 06/09/08 01:42 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
misterz Offline
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Quote:

Quote:

After al, this is the place where people dont think Max Hardcore vidoes are obscene. Talk about denial. You guys crakc me up, youre like the clowns on the bicycle at the circus, always peddling backwards.




I'll tell you what's obscene.

My lady AA friends do it right, they never break a confidence. But they have shared with me in a general way some demons some of the new women face. There is REAL sexual and physical abuse in this community, and no doubt in yours. And I never hear about the non-alcoholic women, the single mothers who struggle because they left an abusive situation. And while resources remain very thin for these abused and forgotten women, the feds spend like drunken sailors to control what some old asshole like me masturbates to. Because there is a consensual depiction of abuse.

That's obscene.

-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy




I agree, those resources could be used elswhere, like to help the people you mentioned. Of course if Fatman was in charge, he'd say even they shouldnt get that help because they shouldnt have had children if they couldnt afford it. Asd a matter of fact he said,, They should not have the RIGHT to have children if they couldnt afford it.

p.s. I have never worked in any way in the adult industry.

And while we're at it, after the government, who is it that most people in the situation you describe turn to? Usually family first and then, oh no, hold your hats, their local church. But wait, as stated earlier, ALL CHRISTIANS ARE DANGEROUS. (i forgot about that tidbit of wisdom from one of the resident scholars here at xxxporntalk)

And I say the oil companies control GWB a hell of alot more than the right wing.

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#336216 - 06/09/08 01:44 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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I take it you don't disagree, then.


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#336217 - 06/09/08 01:52 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Quote:

Quote:


Wow, you guys here get really desperate when someone comes in and shoots your arguments to hell.




Perhaps. But that hasn't happened here.


Quote:

Is this really the BEST you can do?




Not by a long shot, Skippy.

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I dont't really think the problem is my spelling




Ummm... yeah it is. Your grammar and syntax aren't much to write home about, either.

Quote:

I think the problem is my opinion...




If I could figure out what the hell you were talking about, I might be inclined to agree. Would you be so kind as to "CLAIFY" your position a bit?

Quote:

Some things are just too complicated to be intelligently disscussed here.




How would you know?

Quote:

And whil yes, my spelling and punctualtion leaves alot to be desired, you must be really mentally challenged if that is what makes the substacne of the post so difficult for you to undestand.






In addition to English, I speak Spanish, Porn Whore and some German. And for the life of me, I have no idea what you're going on about. It's funny as Hell, though.







THANK-YOU, THANK-YOU THANK-YOU

For proving my point in your, oh so simple way. The fact that you yourself admit that you cant comprehend the substance of my argument is all the validation I need to know that I am right. And that spelling and grammar argument, now thats funny. But if thats the best you can do, and that is all you have done, then who am I to argue with that. Did you watch the national spelling bee this weekend? I would think that someone who equates the validity of an argument with the spelling used to express it would have been glued to their tv set. Or were the words actually a bit to c.o.m.p.l.i.c.a.t.e.d for you?


Edited by misterz (06/09/08 01:55 PM)

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#336218 - 06/09/08 01:58 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Right. You win.

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#336219 - 06/09/08 02:01 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
misterz Offline
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Right. You win.




Actually Jim we all lose.(or is it loose...lol). But when as serious as a debate as this could have been gets thrown into the gutter by attacking ones syntax and punctuation, we all lose. Better luck next time.

The fact is, I agree with about 80% of what everyone else posted here, and I give them 'props' for that, and at least I will admit that. Will others do the same? Doubt it.


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#336220 - 06/09/08 02:05 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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In the middle of page 5, I handed you your ass, and a picture where there are lots of holes in the ground. You still don't know the difference. Your arguments are no better than your pitiful use of words. But I thank you, I don't want to suffer the consequences of kicking a federal prosecutor in the balls, but laughing at a complete dumbass like you is the next best thing. I feel better.

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#336221 - 06/09/08 02:07 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Edited by Jim B. (06/09/08 05:07 PM)

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#336222 - 06/09/08 02:17 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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In the middle of page 5, I handed you your ass, and a picture where there are lots of holes in the ground. You still don't know the difference. Your arguments are no better than your pitiful use of words. But I thank you, I don't want to suffer the consequences of kicking a federal prosecutor in the balls, but laughing at a complete dumbass like you is the next best thing. I feel better.

-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy [/quot

I salute you and your families sacrifices. They are honorable and truely worthy of merit. It does NOT however make your opinions any less or more valid than anyone elses.(you did not say that, I'm just pointing it out)

What do you think of 'government control" of the population?
And how come NOBODY here will answer that? Is it because your asnwer would probably be more in line (not necessarily identical) with my opinion than Fatmans. Or am I just not spelling enough words for you to have the GUTS that any marine would have and answer the question? So please, lets hear your reply to the question. It would probably be one of the more articulate and educated responses here, but you probably wont because you dont want to be seen as agreeing with me.

The freedom of speech that you and your family fought for also gives you the freedom on silence. Which do you choose?

As far as who is getting handed who's ass, I have been dishing them out left and right.

Be a MARINE, stand up, and answer the simple question above, or remain silent.

Some people stand up for the first ammendment, others hide behind it. I would expect you to stand up for it.



p.s. I have family buried their too. That DOESNT make me special.


Edited by misterz (06/09/08 02:22 PM)

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#336223 - 06/09/08 02:22 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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What do you think of 'government control" of the population?




You've said this several times. Please show me where Fatman advocates, or even suggests, "government control of the population." I can't find it anywhere. Neither can anyone else. Please explain, oh enlightened one.

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#336224 - 06/09/08 02:34 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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I was never a Marine, I was in an Army intelligence unit. My military bona fides were to show that I love freedom, and make it my business to protect it.

Population control is a complicated subject, way off topic here. The Chinese have made some tough choices, I've not studied the issue in depth. My hopes for most of the world would be that education and availability of birth control would go a very long way. Community health agencies need to help out here, and have classes, counseling, etc.

Folks on your side who advocate the global gag rule, and a Pope who says wearing a condom is a sin, are not helping things at all. But I don't think letting the children starve is the answer, except in a Libertarian utopia, which I don't support, either. I'm a classic liberal, with emphasis on civil liberties.

I have to go take a final exam at a Community College. I have a B.S., but I continue to learn. You should try some additional formal education, I've found it to be a lifelong joy.

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#336225 - 06/09/08 02:37 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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You seem tovequate exercising fundamental human rights with having money.




You believe that limiting the number of children a person can have to what he can afford is obscene. I believe that polluting the planet with kids you cannot afford and sitting with your hands out is obscene.

If you can't afford a kid, I believe you should choose not have one. Sorry. I don't believe in a welfare state. I don't see welfare as a right.

Public Education
Public education isn't a constitutionally guaranteed federal right. We've decided as a people that we don't want uneducated people, so education is compulsory.

You have every right to try to have public education eliminated. You could lobby to change that those laws* you wish.

Public education is controlled by taxes. You could lobby to end federal support. You could fight to cut state funding to schools. And, you can rally your local people to vote against school budgets. Enjoy.

The retirement community in the school district where I grew up on LI used to bus in people to defeat the school budget so that their taxes would stay low. Their kids had grown up. Their grandkids didn't live the district. It was their right to oppose paying any more than the minimum allowed by the state.

Unlike free speech, education isn't constitutionally guaranteed.


Money to afford rights
Gun ownership is a right as defined by the constitution. Should we be buying guns for everyone who cannot afford one?

Didn't think so.

Same goes for kids, as far as I'm concerned.

If you have more money can you have more guns? Can you hire a better attorney? Can you afford more paint? More clay? A better piece of marble? More paper and pencils? A better college education? More ad time for your point of view? More newspapers to push your agenda?

Same for kids.

I don't see polluting the planet with kids you cannot afford as "a fundamental human right". Sorry.





* Or amend state constitutions. Public education is a guaranteed constitution right in New Jersey, for example.
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#336226 - 06/09/08 02:41 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
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Quote:

Quote:

What do you think of 'government control" of the population?




You've said this several times. Please show me where Fatman advocates, or even suggests, "government control of the population." I can't find it anywhere. Neither can anyone else. Please explain, oh enlightened one.





On page 5 of this thread he writes...."I dont believe in providing food aid to countries that arent "controling their poplulation."

on page 6 he writes...."I think that if developing countries "controlled their population" they would get out of povery faster.


Now if you dont understand that government population control is the most dangerous concept anywhere in the political spectrum, then there is no need to go any further.

Even for the reasons espoused by fatman (ending poverty) the ends could never justify the means. And my question taht no one here has the guts to answer is "what would those means have to be in order to accomplish Fatmans goal of 'controling the population? One need to look no farther that China to get the answer.

He also said that hel believes that if you cannot afford children then you should not have the RIGHT to have them. Granting basic rights only to those who can afford them. Sounds alot like the communist manifesto....."from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs'........except it is the government who decides which is which.

Now, do you agree with Fatman or not. Or will you too exercise your right to slilence.

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#336227 - 06/09/08 02:55 PM Re: Trial Update: Max Found Guilty on 10 Counts
misterz Offline
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FATMAN NOW SAYS (insert backpedal here)
If you can't afford a kid, I believe you should choose not have one. Sorry. I don't believe in a welfare state. I don't see welfare as a righ



I wholeheartedly agree withyour post. I hate the 'welfare state' that we have created as much as the next guy.

But in the above statemant you say if you cant afford a kid you should choose not to have one, but earliet you said, an I quote "I dont think you have the RIGHT to have children if you cant afford them." Sounds like some major backpedaling to me. Or are you just 'clarifying your position.

Then you talk about governments 'controlling the population" to help end poverty.

Simple question, what actions should these governments be allowed to take to control their populations as you say they should, and how does that reconcile with your...."leave me alone in my bedroom" philosophy. Now get back on that bike an continue backpdealling.


And ive actually decided not to monitor my grammar like I said I would because I find it too funny when that is the only response i get. Wow, i guess i backpedaled on that one.


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