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#268412 - 08/18/07 09:31 PM If a whore gets knocked up on the set of a porn...
zenman Offline

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...can she make the dude pay child support if she can prove paternity?

Just curious.
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#268413 - 08/18/07 09:43 PM Re: If a whore gets knocked up on the set of a porn...
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Don't know about other states, but in california...unfortunately yes.
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#268414 - 08/18/07 09:48 PM Re: If a whore gets knocked up on the set of a por
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I've always wondered why the dudes who get into porn don't all have a vasectomy before getting into the business of fucking young, fertile girls for a living. That'd be the first thing I'd do.
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#268415 - 08/18/07 10:10 PM Re: If a whore gets knocked up on the set of a porn...
xvod Offline
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Don't know about other states, but in california...unfortunately yes.




Not if the models release has a 'hold harmless' clause in it indemnifying the production company and cast.

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#268416 - 08/18/07 11:05 PM Re: If a whore gets knocked up on the set of a por
Ivor Biggun Offline
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Not if the models release has a 'hold harmless' clause in it indemnifying the production company and cast.




Has this been tested in court? In most places child support obligations are treated rather different to a routine liability issue, and can't generally be signed away by the parents, except in a legal adoption (where someone else agrees to take them on.)
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#268417 - 08/19/07 01:46 AM Re: If a whore gets knocked up on the set of a por
JRV Offline
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Not if the models release has a 'hold harmless' clause in it indemnifying the production company and cast.



No, not true at all.

Child support is, in theory, on behalf of the child. What the mom does or doesn't sign away is irrelevant: the child didn't (and can't) "hold harmless" anything. Therefore the child can still claim / be eligible for support.

If a porn star is married and gets pregnant on a set and nobody knows who the father is then the husband is liable for child support. If the father *can* be determined then in many (most? all now?) states the husband can transfer child support liability to the natural father, if filed within a year or so of birth.

If the porn star is unmarried, then there's the problem of finding out who the father is. It's not likely there's only one guy from the window of opportunity ... and if she did a 50-guy cream pie then she might not be able to even find many of them, might not be able to pay for all of the testing, and might not even be able to get a court to compel testing on those she can find & afford to test.
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#268418 - 08/19/07 01:56 AM Re: If a whore gets knocked up on the set of a por
JRV Offline
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In most places child support obligations are treated rather different to a routine liability issue, and can't generally be signed away by the parents, except in a legal adoption (where someone else agrees to take them on.)



An adoption is an order from a court, not an agreement between parents. Better to say "the parents agree to seek an order from a court for the adoption". It's the court order that matters, not the parent's agreement.
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#268419 - 08/19/07 05:15 AM Re: If a whore gets knocked up on the set of a por
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Egad, JRV, like a true snake lawyer, knows his shit. The Model release would need to be totally revised to include some VERY specific language addressing the issue of potential fertilization, among other issues (and even then it is probably semi-worthless), such that to call it a "Model Release" at that point would be absurd....more like a fucking product/trade disclaimer .... (ahem):

"We the pimps Aint 'sponsible fo no bitches' buns in no motherfuckin ovens dat cum out of this here cooking show we about TWO TAPE....so if you as LIKE A STUPID BITCH AND GET YOUR ASS FERTILIZED, that be your problem. This aint the motherfuckin' Breakfast Club we be tapin', you aint Molly Ringwald and there aint no millionaire Andy Mccarthy running around or even a guy named "DUCKY" WITH FUCKED UP WHITE BOY HAIR, we aint got no Fresh Horses, and there aint nobody gonna be taking no motherfuckin' bitches to no motherfuckin' PROM, ok?"
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#268420 - 08/19/07 07:34 AM Re: If a whore gets knocked up on the set of a por
gia jordan Offline
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Never thought of three John Holmes flicks and porn whore pregnancies together. Pretty In Paternity Suits mash-up much?
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#268421 - 08/19/07 04:56 PM Re: If a whore gets knocked up on the set of a por
pornlaw Offline
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This is an interesting situation. I did some research and could find nothing remotely on point.

I image that paternity could be proven and child support would be instituted. Support can even be required of a rapist in California ...

Here's a snippet from a California case that dicusses the issue of child support being paid by a rapist.

"At oral argument, the Attorney General pointed to a 1997 Report of the Assembly Committee on Public Safety, which in discussing a proposal to require registration for persons convicted of unlawful sexual intercourse, queried: “How many [teenage] mothers would want the father of their child to plead guilty to statutory rape and be subject to a [lifetime] registration requirement?” (Assem. Com. on Public Safety, Rep. on Assem. Bill No. 1303 (1997-1998 Reg. Sess.) Apr. 22, 1997, p. 4.) The Attorney General asserts that the possibility of pregnancy distinguishes voluntary sexual intercourse from voluntary oral copulation, because requiring the father to register as a sex criminal might stigmatize both the mother and the child, and might harm the father’s ability to support his child."

It uses the word "harm" not prevent so therefore support would be required of a rapist if for some religious belief the mother did not want to terminate the pregnancy.

As for the release, its probably a good to add a clause noting that the performer waives any right to bring a claim for the unintended pregnancy.

It might also be a work comp situation since it did occur during the performance of a work related duty.

Either way, it is most likely that multiple parties would pay for the doctor's bills (the studio/insurance comp), the child support (the father) and possibly lost wages (the studio/ insurance comp).

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#268422 - 08/19/07 08:49 PM Re: If a whore gets knocked up on the set of a porn...
Snowman Offline
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Registered: 02/28/06
Posts: 137
Loc: california
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...can she make the dude pay child support if she can prove paternity? Just curious.




Of course.

Also, one cannot contract out of child support obligations. Any contract provisions or other agreements to that effect will be void as a matter of public policy. In other words, taxpayers are *not* going to pick up the tab for countless potential "Porno Love Children." Family law court is not concerned about how and why two people happened to come together to have sex that produced a child. The court *is* concerned with practical things like who is going to feed the child and keep a roof over it's head.
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#268423 - 09/02/07 02:21 AM Re: If a whore gets knocked up on the set of a porn...
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here is an interesting release---

http://www.ounique.com/site/modelreleaseHD.htm


if pornlaw could comment on the whole STD/HIV terminology

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#268424 - 09/02/07 07:08 AM Re: If a whore gets knocked up on the set of a porn...
Dick Dastardly Offline
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Registered: 01/25/06
Posts: 4470
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here is an interesting release---

http://www.ounique.com/site/modelreleaseHD.htm




A bit unrelated...

Is this typical of a model release for porn? There seems to be a fuckload of red tape as it concerns any/all rights to images. It almost appears as though the photographer is responsible for any payment due to a model in the event images/video is used in excess of it's original intent? Would this be transferred via payment TO the photographer, thence distribution to the model?

Alot of legal speak in there as well that I don't really understand. Fucking lawyers,...Jesus Christ.
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