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#267511 - 08/15/07 02:12 PM
You Are All Individuals
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 01/19/04
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You are all different. I don't want you to follow me. I interviewed today Julie Simone. http://lukeisback.com/bloglukeisback/?p=1034Julie spent 1980-1984 in Germany (from kindergarten to fourth grade) before coming home to Washington D.C. "grudgingly." "I don’t really like this country. If I had my way, I would go back to Europe. It’s a much simpler way of life. I didn’t know about such things as racism until I moved here. I lived in a farming village. I went to the butcher, the baker, and you could walk there." Luke: "What do you love and hate about America?" Julie: "I hate the hypocrisy." "It’s supposed to be so democratic, which I don’t buy. The Religious Right is trying to tell people what they should and shouldn’t do, meanwhile they have mistresses and dominatrixes…. People should be allowed to make their own decisions. Overseas, they teach people to think for themselves while here they teach people to follow like sheep. Thinking for yourself is strongly discouraged here." "The educational system here. There are different standards depending on where you live. Why is it ok for people in the South and Mid-West to be stupid? It seems like the system is intentionally keeping certain segments of the population down." Julie loves the "freedom" in Europe. "It’s just so beautiful there." "I lived there as a child. I’ve been there as an adult but I haven’t lived there. Other than Checkpoint Charlie which I visited when it was still up, it just seemed more relaxed. Here people live to work and there people work to live." [Afterwards, Julie praises by email "the lack of homeless in Europe, centralized health care, and lower crime rates (depending on where you are, of course)."] Luke: "Why do you choose to live here?" Julie: "I live here for work. Unless I find some European to marry, I’m stuck here." Simone has lived in Los Angeles since 2003. "The people here are passive-aggressive. I’m from the East Coast where people say what they think." As a Jew, I must agree with Julie and wish that America were more like that non-racist peace-loving cultured Germany.
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#267512 - 08/15/07 02:22 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/22/06
Posts: 6557
Loc: 2004 - the glory days
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sounds like she'd be unhappy no matter where she lives
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#267513 - 08/15/07 03:00 PM
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Registered Sex Offender
Registered: 07/09/06
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Loc: St. Louis
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Europe is so free, Germany was going to prohibit Tom Cruise from filming a movie there simply because he's a Scientologist. I have no use for religion, particularly Scientology, but can you imagine the federal government prohibiting Tom Cruise from working here because of his fucked up religious beliefs?
If you observe the European media, it is incredibly subjective and ideologically homogenous. Europeans have always been servile sacks of shit and always will be.
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#267514 - 08/15/07 03:02 PM
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Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 07/31/07
Posts: 817
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As a european I can say that your description is spot on. I don't know what that girls has been smoking but it must be good.
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#267515 - 08/15/07 03:20 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 08/09/07
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Julie spent 1980-1984 in Germany (from kindergarten to fourth grade) before coming home to Washington D.C. "grudgingly."
Grudgingly? If I knew where that girl lived, I'd sit outside her window at night with a boom box playing go-go. Old school. Loud.
DC rocks, bitch.
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I didn’t know about such things as racism until I moved here. I lived in a farming village.
That's why she didn't know about racism. If she had lived in an urban area with an immigrant population, she'd have known all about racism. The Germans hate the Turks, the Italians hate the Albanians, the French hate the North Africans, the Dutch and Danish hate Muslims in general, the Swedes hate the Gypsies, the Norwegians hate the Pakis, and the English hate any nationality with darker skin from a former colony.
I'm not saying that everyone in Europe is bigoted, but they do have their white supremist groups and less extreme political parties that use more moderate language. Le Pen, the leader of the National Front in France, almost got elected president in 2002.
I remember reading an essay by James Baldwin where he talked about finishing the novel Go Tell It On The Mountain while living in a small village in Switzerland. When someone started stealing firewood, the locals blamed it on the schwartzer.
So basically she didn't know about racism because she lived in areas where there was no one to be racist against.
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#267516 - 08/15/07 03:37 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 08/09/07
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Europe is so free, Germany was going to prohibit Tom Cruise from filming a movie there simply because he's a Scientologist. I have no use for religion, particularly Scientology, but can you imagine the federal government prohibiting Tom Cruise from working here because of his fucked up religious beliefs?
Germany & Scientology
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The German Federal Government maintains that Scientology is an organization which has primarily economical interests. This idea has been reinforced by a ruling of the Federal Labour court (which is not connected to the government in any way). After having reviewed several Scientology books, the judges concluded that Scientology is not a religion, but a commercial enterprise.
Furthermore, the German government maintains that Scientology tries to distribute its ideas as widely as possible, ideally leading to a society where humans life together according to Scientology rules. A closer look at Hubbard's writings shows that this is not desirable since Scientology is structured in a totalitarian, anti-democratic fashion. Attempts to establish itself in a leading position in society have taken place in Rhodesia (1966, described by Russell Miller in chapter 15 of "Bare-Faced Messiah"), Corfu (1968, described by Major John Forte in his book The Commodore and the Colonels), and Morocco (1972, described by Russell Miller in chapter 18 of "Bare-Faced Messiah"). More recently, similar attempts were discovered during a raid on the Scientology headquarters in Greece (and Scientology was consequently closed). Possibly, the same has happened in Colombia.
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#267518 - 08/15/07 10:52 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 05/16/07
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Loc: Sun Diego
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I hardly call spending K through 4th in Germany enough to judge a country, let alone a world. Hypocrites exist everywhere; there isn't a square mile inhabited by human beings on this planet where actions don't conflict with principles. Its not Euro-centric or exclusive to America. Its everywhere; from the Communists to the Capitalists. Most of the fun I've found living has come from conflict; it's survival of the fittest and that principle reigns over human beings as much as it reigns over the natural world. Find some fun in actively opposing the hypocrites and being open about it. You'll live a bit more in the end rather than being satisfied in a comfortable living situation among your own species. Conflict is about the only sign humans are still evolving and haven't reached an evolutionary dead end. 
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#267519 - 08/15/07 10:56 PM
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I don't want you to follow me.
What gave you the impression any of us were?
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#267520 - 08/16/07 01:44 AM
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Whoremaster
Registered: 10/21/05
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The Germans hate the Turks, the Italians hate the Albanians, the French hate the North Africans, the Dutch and Danish hate Muslims in general, the Swedes hate the Gypsies, the Norwegians hate the Pakis, and the English hate any nationality with darker skin from a former colony.
True...and the Turks, Albanians, Muslims etc. just love everybody and don't have a bad word to say about anyone or anything. 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3974179.stm
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I'm not saying that everyone in Europe is bigoted, but they do have their white supremist groups and less extreme political parties that use more moderate language.
True...there are no racist/far right groups in North America.
http://www.davidduke.com
I've been trying to find a clip from Darcus Howe's documentary 'Who are you calling a nigger?', but to no avail. Here's an article on it instead...be warned though, it might shatter your fragile illusion that all racism is perpetrated by white people.
http://www.blink.org.uk/pdescription.asp?key=4235&grp=1
It's the clip of him being threatened that I wanted to find...they tell him he has two minutes to get off their estate (block/neighbourhood in the US) or they'll kill him. Islam is the religion of peace, after all...
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#267521 - 08/16/07 07:21 AM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 08/09/07
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Here's an article on it instead...be warned though, it might shatter your fragile illusion that all racism is perpetrated by white people.
Who are you responding to? No one has posted anything to this thread that suggests that they think that all racism is perpetrated by white people.
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#267522 - 08/16/07 08:34 AM
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#267523 - 08/16/07 09:28 AM
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Whoremaster
Registered: 10/21/05
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Who are you responding to?
Well, try and figure it out...I'm quoting from your post and responding to those quotes, therefore that would narrow the field down to you and...you. 
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No one has posted anything to this thread that suggests that they think that all racism is perpetrated by white people.
Really?
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and the English hate any nationality with darker skin from a former colony.
Seems pretty cut and dried to me. Unless you had some other racial group in mind? Albinos, perhaps? 
You see, what you've done in your 'Germans hate the Turks etc.' statement is attribute a characteristic (and an unflattering one at that) to an entire nation/race. That's called 'racism'.
Just because some Germans dislike the Turks doesn't mean that all of them do. That's the equivalent of saying 'I saw some black guy dealing crack, therefore all blacks are criminals'.
You should look out for a guy who posts on here by the name of tritone...I think you and he would make fast friends.
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#267524 - 08/16/07 04:44 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 08/09/07
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No one has posted anything to this thread that suggests that they think that all racism is perpetrated by white people.
Really?
Really.
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and the English hate any nationality with darker skin from a former colony.
Seems pretty cut and dried to me. Unless you had some other racial group in mind? Albinos, perhaps?
There's nothing there that suggest that all racism is perpetrated by white people.
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You see, what you've done in your 'Germans hate the Turks etc.' statement is attribute a characteristic (and an unflattering one at that) to an entire nation/race.
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I'm not saying that everyone in Europe is bigoted, but they do have their white supremist groups and less extreme political parties that use more moderate language.
So I obviously wasn't attributing racism to an entire nation. I was attributing prejudice against certain certain groups to people who belonged to certain organizations.
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#267526 - 08/16/07 05:12 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 04/12/07
Posts: 367
Loc: WI
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wow...I wouldn't do a double take but I don't think she is too unfortunate looking...
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#267527 - 08/16/07 05:51 PM
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Whoremaster
Registered: 10/21/05
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and the English hate any nationality with darker skin from a former colony.
Seems pretty cut and dried to me. Unless you had some other racial group in mind? Albinos, perhaps?
There's nothing there that suggest that all racism is perpetrated by white people.
Then why the comment about darker skin? You are clearly implying that whites in the UK (i.e., those with lighter skin) are prejudiced.
Is English not your first language? Because you don't seem to be grasping the significance of what you're saying. 
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You see, what you've done in your 'Germans hate the Turks etc.' statement is attribute a characteristic (and an unflattering one at that) to an entire nation/race.
Immediately afterwards in the same post, I said
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I'm not saying that everyone in Europe is bigoted, but they do have their white supremist groups and less extreme political parties that use more moderate language.
So I obviously wasn't attributing racism to an entire nation. I was attributing prejudice against certain certain groups to people who belonged to certain organizations.
You were attributing racism to an entire nation. That's what you do when you generalise an entire nation in one fell swoop such as you did in your 'French hate North Africans etc.' statement. You stereotyped entire races of people on the grounds of the prejudices of a few. The very fact that Le Pen didn't get elected in France would suggest that the majority of French people are not racist, would it not?
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#267528 - 08/16/07 09:04 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 08/09/07
Posts: 52
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You were attributing racism to an entire nation.
Nope. Once again, here's who I was attributing racism to.
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I'm not saying that everyone in Europe is bigoted, but they do have their white supremist groups and less extreme political parties that use more moderate language.
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#267530 - 08/16/07 09:41 PM
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Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 04/03/07
Posts: 786
Loc: on the dark side of the moon
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Racism is everywhere. The Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act are only fairly recent accomplishments; historically speaking, it just happened yesterday.
On the upside, the US has a black (or mixed race?) candidate running for president. I don't think you will see that happen anytime soon in Europe.
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#267532 - 08/17/07 09:24 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 08/11/07
Posts: 393
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Kurt Lockwood has a better chance of becoming President than Obama.
Only if you'll be my #2, Vin! 
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