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#20970 - 04/16/04 10:27 AM The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
Mike Meatmaster Offline
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Assumptions have been that this HIV outbreak started with Darren James. But who's to say he didn't get it from Lara Rox?

Have they gone backwards at all to search or are they just going forward?
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#20971 - 04/16/04 10:33 AM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
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I have been thinking the same thing. I think they are still waiting on some results.
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#20972 - 04/16/04 11:52 AM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
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If they do find out that it was Roxx that started it all, will they publicly announce that?

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#20973 - 04/16/04 12:16 PM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
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I think it started with Lara Cox...SUPPOSEDLY she didn't have an AIM test...it was a Elisa test from a regular doctor...

But there are so many rumors swirling around you dont know what to believe. I think its a bit fucked that some of the girls are getting together donation funds for this girl and no one is for Darren. If you ever met this girl you wouldnt of liked her much. she wasnt very nice or personable what so ever. But from what I hear about Darren is that he is a great guy. No one can say a bad thim about him...And thats rare for male talent.
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#20974 - 04/16/04 12:33 PM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
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Has she been tested after the announcement?

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#20975 - 04/16/04 12:36 PM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
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Registered: 04/20/03
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Darren is a down right awesome guy. I've never had much luck with canadian girls, they're all rude and I think the sad part is they don't realize it. It's probably their culture or something...

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#20976 - 04/16/04 01:57 PM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
Vukmir Vukmir Offline
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Registered: 04/21/03
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It's much to soon to jump to conclusions. I bet any scenario is possible, just that Brazil is the most obvious given the risk factors there ...

However, one thought, if Brazil is so bad, why didn't this happen sooner? It's not like US porn guys don't shoot there often. Maybe it DID start with Lara -- time will tell.

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#20977 - 04/16/04 06:08 PM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
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If you are suggesting Lara Roxx had the HIV virus first then who was the Producer/Director letting her perform on set with NO TEST? That is the bigger issue.

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#20978 - 04/16/04 06:26 PM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
krell vid user Offline
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who gives a fuck. why would anyone want to live a life in porn anyway? aside from being a pathetic piece of shit outcast that cant find any other meaningful work.

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#20979 - 04/16/04 07:29 PM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
tomcat Offline
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who gives a fuck. why would anyone want to live a life in porn anyway? aside from being a pathetic piece of shit outcast that cant find any other meaningful work.




Why so much hatred? Did you try out for it & got rejected?

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#20980 - 04/16/04 08:14 PM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
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who gives a fuck. why would anyone want to live a life in porn anyway? aside from being a pathetic piece of shit outcast that cant find any other meaningful work.




Porn has been very good to me $$$

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#20981 - 04/16/04 10:46 PM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
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who gives a fuck. why would anyone want to live a life in porn anyway? aside from being a pathetic piece of shit outcast that cant find any other meaningful work.



They do it because otherwise Trolls would find no purpose in their lives.
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#20982 - 04/17/04 02:59 AM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
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trolls live on grassy knolls

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#20983 - 04/17/04 04:12 AM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
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I would be almost certain Darren James contracted HIV in Brazil then infected Lara Roxx before he had his next test which showed he was HIV positive. I think if performers go overseas for work then they should have a test as soon as they come back BEFORE they even think about working again - NOT just when their next test is due. Obviously Darren James has not done this and has put so many people at risk by not doing so. I feel so sorry for Lara Roxx who has only been working in porn for 3 months

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#20984 - 04/17/04 07:36 AM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
krell vid user Offline
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why would anyone feel sorry for laura? she was dumb enough to get into this biz.

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#20985 - 04/17/04 09:50 AM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
MrPoo Offline
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people arent getting something here. Lara Cox is a street walker turned pornstar. I know of 3 people she fucked bareback, not in the biz, just early last week. Yeah those guys were fucking retards to be boning herand have officially signed their own death certificate, but i still believe she is ground zero.
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#20986 - 04/17/04 10:16 AM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
JRV Offline
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people arent getting something here. Lara Cox is a street walker turned pornstar.



I doubt Lara's the only one. How many do porn as a form of advertising or promotion to drive up their "escort" rates?
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#20987 - 04/17/04 10:22 AM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
Sabre Offline
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Registered: 11/26/03
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OK now....I read this thread this morning and went and looked at every smut news website I could think of and I noticed that no one seems to have come forward with Roxxx's test from her shoot with James in Canada. Am I looking in the wrong places or has no one else found this important? Is there any documentation that she was not HIV+ when she worked with him in Canada?
Sorry if this is repetitive but AIM does seem to have jumped to the conclusion that the outbreak originated with James a bit prematurely.

And not to feed the trolls but I am not of the opinion that someone deserves this because they were "stupid enough" to get into the industry. This outbreak is an unfortunate fact of life that has happened before and will presumably happen again in the porn industry. People will look for someone to blame because when they can place blame on someone they feel that they have determined the cause of this tragedy. When we have determined the cause we can keep it from happening again and we will all be safe and live happily ever after.........right?

Shit happens. This is real life.

However, because of this shit people are probably going to die, most likely before their time. Roxx may not live happily ever after, nor will James or any of the other performers who may come up positive. And it is for that reason that many of us have expressed sorry, condolences, or offered support. Last time I checked, this kind of basic expression of warmth and kindness was a simple act of human decency-an act of which we are all capable and an act which is generally appreciated by the souls on the receiving end.

So, troll, if you still have difficulty relating to those of use who have expressed support for Roxx, James, or anyone else why don't you get off the internet, trot over to the next room and ask your mother for more lessons on compassion?


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#20988 - 04/17/04 10:29 AM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
Rob Longshot Offline
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Mr. Poo, from what i know... i am inclined to agree with you. but, we have to see.
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#20989 - 04/17/04 10:32 AM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
DukeAbercrombie1 Offline
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Registered: 10/27/03
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just because Lara Cox isnt a the friendlest person or is premiscous with her personal time doesnt mean she is automatically the Death dealer.
she could do whatever the fuck she want and fuck whomever she wanted. its all DARREN JAMES FAULT who had sex with BRAZILIAN TRANNIES who fucked the American porn community over.
just because you dont like Lara Rox or whoever doesnt mean she deserves it.
put this all on the evil fuckface that started it all.
in this business you have to look out foreach other and that one guy did not.
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#20990 - 04/17/04 10:46 AM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
Rob Longshot Offline
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dude, there is no evidence he fucked any trannies or anything like that. that is still just rumor.

what is known is that Lara Roxx worked with darren in canada BEFORE his trip to brazil, and i have heard from MANY sources that she was going to companies here bringing only an ELISA test, not a PCR test from AIM.

hence, why she didnt work much.
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#20991 - 04/17/04 10:49 AM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
JRV Offline
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I would be almost certain Darren James contracted HIV in Brazil then infected Lara Roxx before he had his next test which showed he was HIV positive.



That’s certainly possible.

But, it’s not clear that it’s any less likely that Lara infected Darren. There are rumors Lara was working with a private-doctor HIV test, not an AIM test. I haven’t heard anything about the reliability of Lara’s tests.

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I think if performers go overseas for work then they should have a test as soon as they come back BEFORE they even think about working again - NOT just when their next test is due. Obviously Darren James has not done this and has put so many people at risk by not doing so. I feel so sorry for Lara Roxx who has only been working in porn for 3 months



When Darren put his cock in Lara how different was that from putting his cock in some Brazilian girl? Why should we assume Lara is any safer than the girls Darren worked with in Brazil?

It takes some time for HIV to show up in tests after infection. If Darren is infected shortly before returning to the US, or if Lara is infected before coming to the US, tests taken when they hop off the bus can easily be negative. They may become contagious before their next test.
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#20992 - 04/17/04 11:05 AM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
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according to a friend with labdat access Lara tested at AIM negitive around march 20th. Im unsure of the exact date... Prior to that she had a doctor elisa. but that doesnt say much. the antibodys could of gone undected...confusing stuff to figure out. Sharon has her hands full. I dont know why im saying anthing at all.

Im not Doctor Poo....just Mr Poo
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#20993 - 04/17/04 11:13 AM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
Rob Longshot Offline
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its true poo... (did i really just say that?)

honestly everthing right now is purely speculation.

just everyone out there take care of your self, and if you are gonna work right now take a speculum and a can of lysol with you.
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#20994 - 04/17/04 11:43 AM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
JRV Offline
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Duke, I think the thrust of what MrPoo and others who've met Lara are saying is that it is NOT a good assumption that Lara is cleaner and safer than the Brazilian girls. Maybe she is and maybe she isn't. If she hooks on the side then I doubt she is any safer.

Darren made a mistake working bareback with foreign girls in Brazil whose tests were dubious. But he also made a mistake by working bareback with a foreign girl in the US (Lara) whose test was dubious. Hindsight is a wonderful thing to make it obvious both were dumb things to do, but we still don't know which got one him in trouble (if indeed the source isn't somewhere else).

In the 1998 outbreak Tricia Deveraux, Caroline and Brooke Ashley tested positive well before Marc Wallice; I think Tricia tested HIV+ 6-8 weeks before Marc did and suffered a lot of accusations until it was realized Marc might have been HIV+ for as long as a year, and might well have infected Delfin and Jordan McKnight the year before.

Darren might have tested HIV+ first for no other reason that he was the first to take his test: had Darren done his tests at the usual four week interval instead of three maybe Lara would have tested HIV+ first and Darren would have been first generation, and the focus might be on the stupidity of importing foreign hookers to perform.
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#20995 - 04/17/04 12:03 PM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
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exactly my point...
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#20996 - 04/17/04 12:20 PM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
JRV Offline
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its true poo... (did i really just say that?)



heh - I have no shame so I’ll say it - "Too True Mr Poo!"

My first gut guess was that Sharon & AIM would need two weeks to get a handle on the scope of the problem. I still think that’s a minimum. There’s just too much legwork needed.
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#20997 - 04/17/04 12:55 PM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
Red Light Misfit Offline
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All the finger pointing doesn't take away from the fact that two people are now infected with HIV.

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#20998 - 04/17/04 01:07 PM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
2cums Offline
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JRV, you win the award for poster of the day. Most of these chicks hook and doing a few porn movies can drive their price of pussy up. Look at all the big contract girls. Nearly all of them are listed on Body Miracle.

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#20999 - 04/17/04 01:17 PM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
krell vid user Offline
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i want to know how i can get into this business so i can no longer be a "troll" and become a valuable asset to society.

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#21000 - 04/17/04 02:29 PM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
Rob Longshot Offline
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actually, in speaking with AIM today they have said looking at the viral loads it would be impossible to tell who got it first.... HOWEVER, Lara and Patrice were BOTH using ELISA tests from canada. Patrice was using one as recently as monday.....

i know other things, but i dont if you know what i mean.
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#21001 - 04/17/04 02:46 PM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
Mike Meatmaster Offline
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That is exactly what I was thinking. I hope someone has the people who are now positive or on the lists on suicide watch. You never know.

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Darren might have tested HIV+ first for no other reason that he was the first to take his test: had Darren done his tests at the usual four week interval instead of three maybe Lara would have tested HIV+ first and Darren would have been first generation, and the focus might be on the stupidity of importing foreign hookers to perform.


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#21002 - 04/21/04 06:48 PM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
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actually, in speaking with AIM today they have said looking at the viral loads it would be impossible to tell who got it first.... HOWEVER, Lara and Patrice were BOTH using ELISA tests from canada. Patrice was using one as recently as monday.....

i know other things, but i dont if you know what i mean.




I dont know why people keep on calling her PATRICE, since she's PATRICIA PETITE. She was part last summer of some sort of *Canadian Idol* for porns, but didnt win. You can see her at www.pornstaracademie.com and also on www.brunob.com.

I am not talking about myself when i say most French canadian (aka Quebecers) are all wanna-be porn stars. Most of them got no brains and are total blondes.

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#21003 - 04/21/04 06:58 PM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
Smartt Offline
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If I knew exactly who were the girls Darren fucked during his stay in Brazil, I could get the answer in like ten minutes.

But if he, indeed, fucked a tranny BAREBACK, that that´s where he got it from. In Brazil, trannies are way more aware of the HIV risks than the usual hookers.

So, if a brazilian tranny says yes to a bareback without hesitation, then he has the virus and, worse, he KNOWS that, period.

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#21004 - 04/21/04 09:11 PM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
JRV Offline
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I dont know why people keep on calling her PATRICE, since she's PATRICIA PETITE.



Most American directors are completely clueless about spelling. Patricia to Patrice is so common we don't even blink any more. Some studios are challenged to get their contract girls right.

I suspect that some of it is porn girls often not really knowing what they want.
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#21005 - 04/23/04 04:55 AM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
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It's funny cuz she never had her own website before, untill this whole HIV craze started and suddenly, i find her website, obviously of poor content.

for the curious, www.patriciapetite.com

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#21006 - 04/23/04 05:51 AM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
sammura Offline
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so do QUEST DIAGNOSTICS have 2 diffrent type of hiv testing? because i am from another state and when i get tested that where they send my blood work. isn't that the same place where aim sends their blood tests

. and if darren was a vivid or wicked, or any other top list contract performer,would his face and name been plastered all over the news and the net?

.. how long was mark wallace patient "0" untill they said who he was?

where is the real list.. i haven't seen the list with 65 names that everybody been talking about. is it the fact that some people are to scared to go in and test? hmmmmmmmmmmm. hey smelly monkey was right i am glad that companies wasn't digging my looks to much. they might had saved my life. because i know i am a good cock sucker and fuck.
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#21007 - 04/23/04 06:02 AM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
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so do QUEST DIAGNOSTICS have 2 diffrent type of hiv testing? because i am from another state and when i get tested that where they send my blood work. isn't that the same place where aim sends their blood tests




yes they do havetwo different types, but no. quest is not where AIM sneds the tests.the lab where aim does send its tests however was awarded by Roche (the company that invented the PCR test) for its advancement in PCR tachnology.

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. and if darren was a vivid or wicked, or any other top list contract performer,would his face and name been plastered all over the news and the net?





you arent trying to say this is a racial thing are you? Darren was a contract performer to Evasive Angles. and i think if it was the case and it was a wicked/vivid performer... yes they would be everywhere, probably more so.

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.. how long was mark wallace patient "0" untill they said who he was?





because it was before AIM, and marc was using a faked elisa, it could have been several years possibly from 95-98.

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where is the real list.. i haven't seen the list with 65 names that everybody been talking about. is it the fact that some people are to scared to go in and test? hmmmmmmmmmmm. hey smelly monkey was right i am glad that companies wasn't digging my looks to much. they might had saved my life. because i know i am a good cock sucker and fuck.




http://www.aim-med.org/Quarantine.html

no one is hiding it at all.... its right there to see.
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#21008 - 04/23/04 07:04 AM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
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i still didn;t count 65
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#21009 - 04/23/04 09:57 AM Re: The HIV outbreak - where'd it start?
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It's funny cuz she never had her own website before, untill this whole HIV craze started and suddenly, i find her website, obviously of poor content.



That may not be her. It may be someone else profiting from her name. That happens all the time.
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