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#175857 - 06/26/06 05:41 AM Ray Guhn got popped?
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Did anyone hear about Ray Guhn getting arrested? I heard it was on some racketeering bullshit and prostitution and the like.
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#175858 - 06/26/06 06:18 AM Re: Ray Guhn got popped?
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Yes, although I've no idea what the charges are...perhaps the racketeering/prostitution angle could be something to do with the fact he uses members of the site as male talent in his content? Some young turk in the DA's office probably thinks he can make some tenuous connection between the fact that members of the site get to interact with the girls (by splooging on them), but have to pay for it (via purchasing a membership to COHF.com) as opposed to an American Bukkake shoot where Jeff pays the guys to perform. Whether a case can be proven is neither here nor there right now...it just means that COHF are going to be involved in a lot of costly and time/energy sapping legal wrangling for the forseeable future. A conviction may not be the goal here, rather the authorities are just looking to fuck with him and his business/cashflow until he can no longer keep doing business.

Of course, having said that, it could be something entirely unrelated to COHF.com, but when you look at the two guys fingered by the law on this one, I'd tend to doubt it.

What will be interesting to see is how the industry reacts...remember, the general industry consensus seems to be that Rob Black and Jeff Steward deserve everything they get because they make 'extreme' porn, so it's okay to just say 'fuck 'em, they we're asking for it' and turn your back on them. Ray Guhn, as far as I can see, doesn't make particularly 'extreme' porn outside of the fact it's group sex/bukkake...will the industry be rallying around him, or will he be getting the sanctimonious cold shoulder?

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#175859 - 06/26/06 06:22 AM Re: Ray Guhn got popped?
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Article
Here's a link to an article.
This so far beyond fucked up. Fuckin Bible thumpers should go after thier own sick fuck priests instead of just about everything else they are doing.
Another Article


Edited by lance69 (06/26/06 06:28 AM)
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#175860 - 06/26/06 06:28 AM Re: Ray Guhn got popped?
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First They Came for the Jews

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.


Pastor Martin Niemöller





Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


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#175861 - 06/26/06 06:36 AM Re: Ray Guhn got popped?
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Article
Here's a link to an article.
This so far beyond fucked up. Fuckin Bible thumpers should go after thier own sick fuck priests instead of just about everything else they are doing.
Another Article




Ah Yes, Florida, Scarburough Country, Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris, the new law where you can shoot someone if you feel threatened, and soon to be home of that new city where it's all Christian 24/7 - 365.

Damn that Tina from COHF should have done some Commercial Porn.
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#175862 - 06/26/06 03:43 PM Re: Ray Guhn got popped?
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This sucks! Who is next?
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#175863 - 06/26/06 04:19 PM Re: Ray Guhn got popped?
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Fuckin Bible thumpers should go after thier own sick fuck priests instead of just about everything else they are doing.




+1 Then again, why they would choose to set up shop in Northwest Florida is beyond me. It ain't exactly San Francisco down there...

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#175864 - 06/26/06 04:44 PM Re: Ray Guhn got popped?
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Then again, why they would choose to set up shop in Northwest Florida is beyond me. It ain't exactly San Francisco down there...




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#175865 - 06/26/06 05:39 PM Re: Ray Guhn got popped?
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I know several people who work with them - I am very surprised by this, I have a feeling a lot more Internet companies will be investigated as result of this


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#175866 - 06/26/06 06:45 PM Re: Ray Guhn got popped?
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Damn that Tina from COHF should have done some Commercial Porn.




I always had a thing for Gabrielle myself. Also kind of liked Sandra & Brooke. Sara, Tina, and Tiffany get an honorable mention as well.
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#175867 - 06/26/06 08:30 PM Re: Ray Guhn got popped?
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All I see there are some very lucky girls.

The fucking government needs to get the hell off our backs.
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#175868 - 06/26/06 10:47 PM Re: Ray Guhn got popped?
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Within 10 minutes of meeting her in Vegas I got a BJ in the middle of the Mandalay Bay. Good girl that one! She's way hotter in person IMO.
As for the prosecution it's unfuckingbelievable!

The guys that run COHF have been very good to me. I wish them all the best, I just wish I could do something. Anyone think the Free Speech Coalition may get involved? It's absolutely retarded. The silver lining may be that if the case is won then there'll be a precedent set for Florida. Like what happened here in BC with sweet. They did the industry a huge favour by fighting it.
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#175869 - 06/26/06 11:56 PM Re: Ray Guhn got popped?
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welll judging from the article its based on things already found on the net.....

you can only LEGALLY shoot porn in Cali.....

http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?Primary_Navigation=Editorial&Action=View_Article&Content_ID=232071

and you can't pay for a models travel expenses according to Mike South since it a violation of the mann act

its all based on technicalities....

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#175870 - 06/27/06 06:24 AM Re: Ray Guhn got popped?
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#175871 - 06/27/06 07:10 AM Re: Ray Guhn got popped?
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I liked Florida, I stayed along the Gulf Coast and tramped down to all those little bars along the beach that sell twelve shrimp for $1.20 and a beer for $1.25.

Bevies of nubile young females would parade around in bikinis that didn't have six square inches of material.

I don't think I'll be going back.
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#175872 - 06/27/06 11:37 AM Re: Ray Guhn got popped?
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Mike South writes.....

Ray Operates the site cumonherface.com

This is a State Charge not a federal charge and the case is going to hinge largely on whether or not hiring people to perform in adult films and for adult websites is prostitution. In California this was already decided in Los Angeles V. Freeman, and that is why shooting in L.A. is legal. In other areas it is untested.

The Racketeering charges where no doubt levelled in order to seize Ray's assets without due process.

These charges are state charges for Florida, If Ray looses this could very well be bad for anyone shooting in Florida, including all the icy porn sites, bang brothers, milfhunters etc.


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This should be an interesting event on how well Florida will handle the industry. Who knows maybe the Tampa Show won’t draw as many followers especially if producers are scared about getting busted.

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#175873 - 06/27/06 06:37 PM Re: Ray Guhn got popped?
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This is a State Charge not a federal charge and the case is going to hinge largely on whether or not hiring people to perform in adult films and for adult websites is prostitution. In California this was already decided in Los Angeles V. Freeman, and that is why shooting in L.A. is legal. In other areas it is untested.
...
These charges are state charges for Florida, If Ray looses this could very well be bad for anyone shooting in Florida, including all the icy porn sites, bang brothers, milfhunters etc.




Courts a lot of the time will look for precedence when deciding cases. Even though the case mentioned above was decided in California, it still could be viewed as precedence(possibly?). The Florida Supreme Court is a nutty bunch, very far left wing liberal(that's why they kept trying to give the state to Gore in '00). We really need Smiling Arab to weigh in the precedence issue.
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#175874 - 06/28/06 01:27 AM Re: Ray Guhn got popped?
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This should be an interesting event on how well Florida will handle the industry. Who knows maybe the Tampa Show won’t draw as many followers especially if producers are scared about getting busted.




Frankly, I'd like to see webmasters explore other locations and give Florida the cold shoulder whilst this case is ongoing.

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#175875 - 06/28/06 07:58 AM Re: Ray Guhn got popped?
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I guess it's not surprising that both cashtitan.com and cumonherface.com are now off-line...
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#175876 - 06/28/06 08:17 AM Re: Ray Guhn got popped?
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Quote:

Quote:

This should be an interesting event on how well Florida will handle the industry. Who knows maybe the Tampa Show won’t draw as many followers especially if producers are scared about getting busted.




Frankly, I'd like to see webmasters explore other locations and give Florida the cold shoulder whilst this case is ongoing.




Well like I said the Tampa show would be one thing but there also is the summer Internext in Hollywood, FL. So its really a matter of standing your ground and not being intimidated otherwise they will do to porn the same way they treat strip clubs in some areas. They just had the exxxotica miami and I didnt hear of anyone being arrested there and you know they did shoots after hours. The cold hard facts are that there only two towns the dont fuck with pornographers in Florida is Tampa & Miami

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#175877 - 06/28/06 09:19 AM Re: Ray Guhn got popped?
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I wonder if this'll affect the Miami show. It's my favourite show if the year but it'd be a great place for the fuzz to crash.
As for Ray Guhn and Cash Titans, I hope they beat this shit down and sue the Government for being stupid.
Quote:

Another confidential source told investigators that Craft, known to her as Jim,


I just noticed this in the article! Holy shit! Man I hope Jim is gonna be ok. He's always treated everyone with respect and does not deserve these charges. FUCK!


Edited by lance69 (06/28/06 09:25 AM)
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#175878 - 06/28/06 10:09 AM Re: Ray Guhn got popped?
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SHIT!...I had a membership to cumonherface.com..Not anymore I guess. What is the world coming to? First The Fat Boys break up and now this shit!
What next..Will we all find out that Gen Padova is really an albino pygmie? These are fucked up times fo sho.

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#175879 - 06/29/06 02:42 PM Re: Ray Guhn got popped?
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Registered: 01/23/06
Posts: 44
Loc: Surrey BC
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SHIT!...I had a membership to cumonherface.com..





I did too and let my membership lapse last year...the new canadian content was neat and all, but wasn't as hard as teh stuff from a the first couple years.

I did notice that Tobi (a recent cohf regular/canadian chick) appeared on one of meatmembers sites recently...anyway, that's one less production company working/hiring up here in BC now.



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#175880 - 06/30/06 03:50 AM Re: Ray Guhn got popped?
lance69 Offline
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Registered: 02/18/05
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Loc: British Colombia
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the new canadian content was neat and all, but wasn't as hard as teh stuff from a the first couple years.

I did notice that Tobi (a recent cohf regular/canadian chick) appeared on one of meatmembers sites recently...anyway, that's one less production company working/hiring up here in BC now.




Tobi is awesome. No question.
This lawsuit has no effect on the Canadian companies, except that we have lost a valuable and respectable client to the new theocracy that used to be the free USA.
As for not being as hard, we were specifically asked to tone down our antics. As it wasn't what they wanted to convey on thier site.
I am anxious for the day they are aquitted and renew thier endeavours. Till then Ray, and everyone else that I don't want to name on this board; your welcome here in BC anytime.


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#175881 - 07/13/06 06:59 AM Re: Ray Guhn got popped?
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Registered: 06/26/06
Posts: 100
You can follow along on the case docket here:

Escambia County, Florida Clerk's Office

This is the guy defending him:

Lawrence Walters, Esq.

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#175882 - 07/10/07 08:00 PM Re: Ray Guhn got popped? - UPDATE!
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PENSACOLA, Fla. — Prosecutors have charged adult webmaster Ray Guhn with money laundering, adding to existing obscenity, racketeering and prostitution charges filed last year.
Kevin Patrick Stevens, Andrew Kevin Draft, William Lee Beach and Thomas W. Dwyer also have been charged in the case. Jane Marie Dreka is being sought by authorities for arrest.

Prosecutors also have dropped Guhn's charges in Escambia County, where the case has been ongoing for a year, and re-filed them in Santa Rosa County, an act that his attorney Lawrence Walters told XBIZ is likely an attempt at venue shopping.

"I can only imagine that the prosecutors are trying to obtain an advantage by moving to another county to get a more favorable jury or judge," Walters said. "We have been litigating for a year in Escambia and we don't think it's appropriate to start over."

Walters also said that the new money laundering charges are more serious than any of Guhn's others. He said Florida law states that if a person profits from the commission of any crime — including obscenity — then the government can claim money laundering is taking place.

"If all material is presumed to be protected by the constitution until declared illegal by the judge or jury, then how could my client have had any idea that there was any attempt to money launder?" Walters said.

Walters' next priority, he said, is to have the case transferred back to Escambia County. He said that the state constitution declares defendants have the right to choose which venue in which to be prosecuted, as long as it is available, and Escambia County clearly is available.

Walters said he has filed a motion to transfer and expects a hearing to be scheduled next month.

He said that there is no case law that recognizes that the government can add money laundering charges and move the trial location. Though it's unfortunate that the charges have reached this extent, he said, this case is becoming more important.

"It's another groundbreaking precedent issue that this case may actually resolve," Walters said.

Guhn, whose real name is Clinton McCowan, was arrested last year on charges of racketeering, engaging in prostitution and the manufacture and sale of obscene material. The arrest culminated a months-long investigation into the operations of Guhn's company, Global Technologies Inc., doing business as Ray Guhn Productions. The website that he shot content for, CumOnHerFace.com, is part of the Cash Titans affiliate program, which he owned.

Assistant State Attorney Russ Edgar did not respond to an interview request by press time.

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#175883 - 07/11/07 08:46 PM Re: Ray Guhn got popped? - UPDATE!
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Yup, I heard that the other day. County shopping to get a better result. Sounds like Justice to me.
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