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Of course there's a ban on male-male action in straight porn. In fact, blind Freddy could tell you it exists. You sleazy bullshit artists can keep dreaming because nothing you say changes the simple basic fact that male-male erotic interactions are banned in straight porn.

The straight porn industry is an industry that tells lies about human sexuality, basically.

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Milton: We use only the finest baby frogs, dew picked and flown from Iraq, cleansed in finest quality spring water, lightly killed, and then sealed in a succulent Swiss quintuple smooth treble cream milk chocolate envelope and lovingly frosted with glucose.

Praline: That's as maybe, it's still a frog.

Milton: What else?

Praline: Well don't you even take the bones out?

Milton: If we took the bones out it wouldn't be crunchy would it?

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The straight porn industry is an industry that tells lies about human sexuality, basically.

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Think of it as selectively bisexual.

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bad_bad,

You know full well that what I'm saying is true. The reason you won't admit it is because my views are potentially revolutionary. They have the potential to change the straight porn industry forever. You're scared of the revolution, basically.

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I know full well that you're full of shit, if the main customers of Porn wanted Male-Male action in their Porn, the Pornographers would put Male-Male action in the porn.

NOT ONE PERSON OTHER THAN YOURSELF HAS STEPPED FORWARD TO SUPPORT YOUR ARGUEMENT.

The People who make porn, put the content in their porn that is most likely to sell volumes, make them money.

Mammon in their God, there is no Ban, no Homophobia.

You go ahead Kate and Make porn with Male-Male action in it and see how well it does on the commercial market.

If more people wanted to see it, the people who produce the product would put it in.

But since the demographic says they don't want to see it, guess what, it's a Niche market.

You continue to argue your point, you only support your ascertations with your arguments, which are only supported by your opinion.

You tell all the other posters here they are wrong, all the while insisting you are right.

You won't even acknowledge that other people have offered other perspectives and you refuse to provide evidence to support your argument, as a matter of fact you've made several statements that contradict your own argument.

Despite all this you persist with a pig headed stubbornness that goes well into obsession!

Most of the Male Actors have done GAY porn, they are WHORES as well, they do what they get paid to do, people pay them to do what sells.

Take your revolutionary views to the bank, tell them you believe that there isn't enough gay porn on the market and see if they'll loan you the money to start a company which makes adult films that is predicated on male-male action, and see how well they sell so you can repay your loan.

I'll be surprised if you get a lone, there are a lot more "Metrosexuals" folks love that "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" TV Show, hell there's even a Gay Cable Network now.

Let the market prove you're right, because that is the only place that matters.

Somehow though I believe you'll limit yourself to continuing to spout your idiotic, unsupported argument on this forum.

I forget are we at Am Not or Are Too?

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bad_bad,

I haven't provided evidence? LOL. If anyone hasn't provided evidence, it's you. You talk about this supposed mass of people who buy straight porn on the condition that it excludes male-male action. Yet you don't give any figures or any documentation as to who this mass is. You're clutching at straws, pal. You're like the rooster squawking away when he finds that his domain is being challenged.

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hahahahahahahahahahahahha. It's your argument, I have challenged you to provide evidence. Not one other poster in this thread has come to support your views. I suggested that if you're so convinced you're right then you need to go to a bank and get financing to start your own company and produce the porn you believe the masses desire.

You want to prove people will buy Porn if it features Male-Male action, then prove it. You haven't all you've done is put finger to keyboard and type unsupported foideral.

You make claims you have no evidence to support, you haven't posted any evidence in support of your claims.

You make statements and you defend your position only with your statements.

As I've repeatedly said, there has been no other poster on this forum to come forward and support your argument, even the Gay men and Bi-Sexual Men, and Male Porn Whores have said that your argument is specious, that is unsupported by facts.

Your argument is so weak Kate, you've resorted to trying to use my argument against me to fluff up the ethereal quality of your namby-pamby opinion.

Heterosexual Men are not homophobic because they don't desire to see homosexual sex, they are attracted to women, they like seeing women having sex and fantasizing that they are the male partner of the young ladies. Heterosexual Men are homophobic when they hate and fear homosexual men and act out against homosexual men. Not being desirous of seeing male-male action doesn't make someone Homophobic.

You have repeatedly made statements and failed to support those statements with any evidence; and persist in making your specious argument despite the resoundingly negative response to your argument on this forum.

BTW The first Hit on Google sayd 2.4 Billion in Porn Sales in the U.S. for 2005, $486 Million of that in Gay Porn.

Gee that's a little more than 20%

Got anything to say that ACTUALLY supprort your arguement like a documents that show that the majority of Porn Studios don't do Male-Male Movies because of their hatred of Male Homosexuals?

Perhaps a University Study that shows more than 51% of American Males want to see some Male-Male Action in their Porn?

Come on Kate put your money where your fingers are.



I don't know why when people say something stupid I like to repeatedly point out how stupid what they say is, and why I particularly enjoy it when they keep saying the same stupid thing over and over?

I recall reading in "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy" that pointing out the obvious is a human condition, I guess that makes me human.

If Kate doesn't support her arguement with some evidence, documentation, something factual, lock the thread and ban black-hole brain.

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bad_bad,

Not only are you unable to cough up the evidence, you're also prone to misrepresenting my position. My position is that selective homophobia exists at the very top of the straight porn industry - i.e. with the editors, the directors and the company heads.

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And your proof is?

Because I've read the entire thread, and other than repeatedly stating your opinion, and looking like a complete fool, you've done little else.

How about a list of the companies that make porn, and show how they've never made gay porn, never made bi-sex porn, never hired an actor, tranny, whatever who's done male-male action.

You make a silly specious argument, unsuported by any evidence. Straight Men do not want to see male-male action in their porn, that perspective has been stated by a Gay Man, an Actor who's done Gay and Bi-Sex Porn, and all the male posters and some of the Female Porn Actors in this thread repeatedly.

Where are the Gay/Bi-Sex Porn Actors who have affidavits stating that the majority of Porn Companies won't hire them because they only do Male-Male Action?

Where are the business records that show that the majority of Porn Companies don't have a Male-Male/Bi-Sex Catalog?

What about interviews with Porn Directors, Producers, Editors who state that they will not be involved in Male-Male Action?

I've not misrepresented anything, you just skip back to the same spot on your record and insult anyone who doesn't share your perspective.

You've wriggled and wriggled and repeated and repeated.

You're arguement is that "Porn Studios have a ban on Male-Male Action in "Straight Porn."

Your Thread title "The Straight Porn Industry is Homophobic" has yet to be supported by some FACTUAL EVIDENCE.

I've stated, the Porn Industry is Guided by GREED, their God is MAMMON, if more people wanted Male-Male Action in their PORN the Companies that make Porn would put Male-Male Action in the Porn, so they could make MORE MONEY.

Where are the Polls to support your argument to influence the Producers, Directors, Editors that putting Male-Male Action in "Straight Porn" is comercially Viable?

Where is your evidence, other than they put in Porn what people want to see, that the "Straight Porn Industry is Homophobic?"

SHUT UP OR PUT UP KATE, You've failed REPEATEDLY to do EITHER.

Well Google didn't hit on "Percentage of Straight Men Who Want to View Gay Porn" gee I wonder why?

Put up or shut up Kate.
Put Up or Shut Up.

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for fuck sakes, stop feeding the troll

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I thought that this kind of pointless, circular and totally, insultingly, PERSONAL bitch-fight was the whole point of this forum? Right?

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I thought that this kind of pointless, circular and totally, insultingly, PERSONAL bitch-fight was the whole point of this forum? Right?

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Yeah, but I prefer the pithy one liners to these god-awful essays.

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I don't know about Pithy one liners, but I could try writing with a lithp.

Anyone know if were at "Am not" or "Are too!"

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I don't know about Pithy one liners, but I could try writing with a lithp.

Anyone know if were at "Am not" or "Are too!"

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Either that or "Your mother wears army boots!"

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Almost but not quite fellas.Think more like;"kate has been particularly concerned with male on male sex because-he can't have it since he zipped his cock in his fly"See?Straight to the point,demeaning and with a grain of truth which makes it personal-since kate is a man But if you engage him too long that affords him a chance to jerk his small peni to orgasm,and encourage further stimulation. Not good

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Oh Yeah! Well your moms got gaps in her teeth so wide when she eats corn she leaves rows!

It's not that I care what Kate thinks, I'm just concerned he/she doesn't.

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Bishop's criticism of me is like water off a duck's back. I can roll with the punches, basically. I know that I am right and that he is wrong.

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I'd like to punch you...
Too bad your not a real person. Who are you really? No one can be this stupid.

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Bishop's criticism of me is like water off a duck's back. I can roll with the punches, basically. I know that I am right and that he is wrong.

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Many of you are slimy, selectively homophobic cunts. You disgrace yourelves with your hypcorisy and double standards in the way you treat female homosexuality versus male homosexuality.

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Follow your leader Dworkin and die, Chickenmaster...er, "Kate".

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Follow your leader Dworkin and die, Chickenmaster...er, "Kate".

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Fuck you, you honky bitch.

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Follow your leader Dworkin and die, Chickenmaster...er, "Kate".

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Fuck you, you honky bitch.

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While I don't agree with the logic, this is probabely the reason girl on girl scenes are accepted by mainstream porn while guy on guy scenes are not:

The Christian Bible, The Torah, and the Koran all forbid male on male sexual contact and the price of such contact is death.

Nowhere in any of these books is girl on girl sexual contact forbidden.

So, according to the inerrant, verbatim word of God, lebianism is not a sin. Male homosexuality is a sin punishable by death and eternal damnation.

Nuf Said.

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I promised myself I wasn't going to partake in this thread because it is so fucking pointless, but I couldn't let this one go.

The reason male/male sex is not accepted in mainstream porn has absolutely nothing to do with religion. Straight guys buy/control mainstream porn. Straight guys like watching pretty girls fuck and kiss each other. Straight guys do not like watching two hairy apes sticking it to each other. That is why guy/guy scenes aren't accepted in mainstream porn not religion or the hypocrisy of sin in relation to girl/girl vs. guy/guy sex.

kate is a waste of bandwidth and a troll. Don't respond to any of the bait HE posts unless you accompany it with a death threat.

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Sorry for the slander. I figured Kate was someone's alter-ego and you haven't been around for a bit. Welcome back.

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I have contacts in the mainstream media to whom I will report your selectively homophobic ethos. You're toast, basically.

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Firehoses and German shepherds, baby!

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That was the best part of being in the Navy. Firehoses were great for eco-terrorists. Fucking greenpeace..