He and his wife set the bar higher then you think. Coming up from nothing as kids, starting in sales and working their way up to starting one of the trail-blazing companies in this industry is an amazing featin it's self. Then to top that they are probably the nicest most down to earth people you could meet. (Aside from Jeff's habit of making chicks cry)
it's a high bar. Good luck
...I started out with a college degree( just like Dave Pounder
), but after I realized how worthless it was, and that I was incapable of holding a steady job...so I became a street perfomer balloon artist and stage hypnotist...hopefully these skills will be enough to competently degrade whores with