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#126783 - 11/02/05 11:07 PM This is Not Funny
Ashley Blue Offline
Rob Black's Crack Pipe

Registered: 06/15/04
Posts: 68
It's common sense to not date/fuck a person that is HIV positive, especially when you are doing porn scenes!
There is a male performer that is currently doing scenes that has an HIV positive girlfriend. It makes me fucking pissed off!
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#126784 - 11/02/05 11:10 PM Re: This is Not Funny
It Was Fun Offline
aka Gen Padova
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/20/03
Posts: 4517
Why dont we be the real blunt Ashley Blue and state a name of the person... that'd be very helpful miss sexy brat.

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#126785 - 11/02/05 11:28 PM Re: This is Not Funny
fuck off and die Offline
AC Cream Wannabe

Registered: 09/14/05
Posts: 467
Loc: in a place where I can kill u ...
damn that really is not funny at all!!!
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#126786 - 11/03/05 05:50 AM Re: This is Not Funny
Smartt Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 5869
Loc: Instead of looking at the girl...
You could help people even more by saying the name of the person AND said person´s girlfriend´s name. This omission can only lead to more deaths.

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#126787 - 11/03/05 07:04 AM Re: This is Not Funny
gia jordan Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 14160
Loc: NYC
WHO IS HE?
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#126788 - 11/03/05 08:58 AM Re: This is Not Funny
Maldini Offline
Rob Black's Crack Pipe

Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 111
Loc: Ireland
Luke Ford and AVN have it up

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#126789 - 11/03/05 09:12 AM Re: This is Not Funny
Sir Greenly Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 12/03/03
Posts: 255
Loc: DoodyVille
who's Shane?

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#126790 - 11/03/05 09:29 AM Re: This is Not Funny
It Was Fun Offline
aka Gen Padova
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/20/03
Posts: 4517
Shane Diesel and Jessica Dee.

I actually would have never expected this from Shane at all unless he plans to play this wise and get out of the industry while he is having condom involved sex with her. Or there's no intercourse involved at all. But that's hard to believe.

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#126791 - 11/03/05 10:24 AM Re: This is Not Funny
The Ghost Is Toast Offline
Whoremaster

Registered: 10/21/05
Posts: 2710
IIRC, Shane has been with Jessica since before she was infected with HIV, so how come this is only being discussed now? It's kind of closing the stable door after the horse has bolted, y'know?

That said, it is a very valid point that Ashley makes on the subject, and an issue which needs to be speedily addressed...paging 'Dr.' Mitchell!

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#126792 - 11/03/05 12:04 PM Re: This is Not Funny
Profeus Offline
Ed Hardy Wearing Loser

Registered: 03/20/05
Posts: 33
Oooooooh the My daughters fucking a Nigga guy! lol this guy shouldnt be working. He should just stay behind the camera. Its funny how this is being brought up now almost 3 years later...

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#126793 - 11/03/05 12:17 PM Re: This is Not Funny
lance69 Offline
Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer

Registered: 02/18/05
Posts: 1138
Loc: British Colombia
Holy Shit, I admire his stance sticking by his girl and all, but Jesus that's just fucking wrong to be in Porn at the same time. If your fucking people for a profession you have a responsibility to everyone you work with! Time to find a new job bud. Condoms break and a porn couple who says they aren't fucking is lying.
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#126794 - 11/03/05 12:32 PM Re: This is Not Funny
helpme Offline
Rob Black's Crack Pipe

Registered: 12/08/04
Posts: 80
Exactly who is everyone angry with in this situation? Is it the individual who has the hiv infected girlfiriend, is it the companies that hire him(knowing full well his situation) is it the other performers who still choose to work with him(thus putting everyone else at a higher risk).

Why dont I see any anger pointed in the direction of those who still hire this guy. They are the ones who are increasing the risk for everyone. Do these compamies let the other talent(possibly newbies in the biz) know of this guys situation. (I bet NOT!!!)

Will other talent refuse to work for the companmies that hire him, will they refuse to work with performers who work with him, or will there be nothing but empty words on a chatboard with NO ACTION to back them up. This is another great opportunity for the talent in this industry to say we're not gonna take this crap anymore, but its alot easier to just do nothing and HOPE "it" doesn't happen again.

I've read alot of ASHLEY's posts on this board and she always seems to speak her mind. Maybe she will step up and saY "I'm not working for or with anyone that uses this guy"


If it is not true that this individual is doing this then I offer my apologies. If it is true then the TALENT in this industry needs to do something to protect themselves form those who are willing to put them at such a heightened risk.


Edited by helpme (11/03/05 12:47 PM)

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#126795 - 11/03/05 12:41 PM Re: This is Not Funny
lance69 Offline
Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer

Registered: 02/18/05
Posts: 1138
Loc: British Colombia
Very Good point, oh and does anyone have a link to the sites confirming this? I couldn't find it on AVN or Luke Ford like someone suggested.
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#126796 - 11/03/05 01:38 PM Re: This is Not Funny
Smartt Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 5869
Loc: Instead of looking at the girl...
Does Sharon Mitchell knows about that? Or she´s just looking the other way, just like she did with Marc Wallice?


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#126797 - 11/03/05 01:49 PM Re: This is Not Funny
Smartt Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 5869
Loc: Instead of looking at the girl...


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#126798 - 11/03/05 02:00 PM Re: This is Not Funny
helpme Offline
Rob Black's Crack Pipe

Registered: 12/08/04
Posts: 80
Who is to blame here?
1) The companies who hire this guy(who know full well of his situation, and probably dont inform the other performers)

2) The talent who continue to work with this guy?

3) The agents and 'managers" who continue to book their talent to work with this guy?

4) This individual himself who could care less about the risk he is putting others at.

5) And of course when all logic fails the blame can then be put on AIM and Saharon Mitchell.

When will the agents stand up and say "We are not going to book our talent with anyone who works with or for this guy?"

Are any agents, production companies, or talent willing to take a stand here? Unfortunately the answer is probably no.


Well good luck, and see you all on the next quarantine list.

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#126799 - 11/03/05 03:24 PM Re: This is Not Funny
Random Offline
Sex Slave Trader

Registered: 01/12/05
Posts: 1342
If true, this proves once and for all that black men really will fuck any white girl. Morbidly obese? Looks like Charles Bronson? Stricken with an infectious, potentially fatal disease? Who cares, she's white.

And before anyone says this is racially insensitive, you should all know I'm black. It's just by strange coincidence that I look Irish-Italian.
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#126800 - 11/03/05 03:43 PM Re: This is Not Funny
2cums Offline
Registered Sex Offender

Registered: 04/16/04
Posts: 2415
Loc: On the Mia Rose bandwagon
Is he web content only? Either way that is so fucked up.

Its not a matter of IF but a matter of WHEN the next bout of HIV positive shows up in the industry.

Thanks Dr Mitch
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#126801 - 11/03/05 03:45 PM Re: This is Not Funny
GUAPO Offline
Pervert

Registered: 04/21/04
Posts: 2204
Just goes to show you how a white girl is a black mans kryptonite.

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#126802 - 11/04/05 12:25 PM Re: This is Not Funny
Grant_Michaels Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 11/09/04
Posts: 277
Loc: LA
Are there any updates on this story? Has AIM looked into it?

I know this guy works a LOT!!! What Gives?
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#126803 - 11/04/05 01:39 PM Re: This is Not Funny
Willie D Offline

Porn Jesus

Registered: 09/20/05
Posts: 9181
You know what else isn't funny...ADT has locked every recent thread with "Shane Diesel" in the text. Seems Stepwhore is inventing her own reality.

And you should read the post by Isabel Ice. It has got to be the absolute proof that Gov. BlackPlowman should pardon Dr. Kevorkian immediately and whisk him to Chatsworth, CA for a new project.


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#126804 - 11/04/05 01:47 PM Re: This is Not Funny
Da Burglar Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 01/02/05
Posts: 5750
Loc: ATLANTIC CITY
They nailed my "Hell on Wheels" ID

I wanted to start a fire over there "so big that god would notice again"....I suck at pyromania/playing stupid.
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#126805 - 11/04/05 01:52 PM Re: This is Not Funny
Smartt Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 5869
Loc: Instead of looking at the girl...
Quote:

You know what else isn't funny...ADT has locked every recent thread with "Shane Diesel" in the text. Seems Stepwhore is inventing her own reality.




They did the exact same thing with the Marc Wallice case.

I think yousa guys should add this image to your signatures and post at ADT, just to see what Stephwhore would do.



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#126806 - 11/04/05 02:33 PM Re: This is Not Funny
Willie D Offline

Porn Jesus

Registered: 09/20/05
Posts: 9181
Just for reference...it is now 2:32 p.m. PST. More later.
2:45 p.m. PST... Scud delivered.
3:05 p.m. PST...10 reads, no replies
3:14...1st response...a Dutchman.
3:24...not it starts in earnest.

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#126807 - 11/04/05 02:44 PM Re: This is Not Funny
Monstar Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 03/28/04
Posts: 4450
Loc: The Planet Houston
Quote:

You know what else isn't funny...ADT has locked every recent thread with "Shane Diesel" in the text.




really? ..wow. The if-i-don't-see-it-it's-not-there-manuver?

naw...you would think that's exactly something they would want to bring to light...
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#126808 - 11/04/05 02:44 PM Re: This is Not Funny
Monstar Offline
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Registered: 03/28/04
Posts: 4450
Loc: The Planet Houston
Quote:

Just for reference...it is now 2:32 p.m. PST. More later.




...it was 2:33.

...just sayin.
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#126809 - 11/04/05 03:14 PM Re: This is Not Funny
Smartt Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 5869
Loc: Instead of looking at the girl...
Quote:

OK...so a story appears on Duke Floored dot com, which was based on the reports of 2 porn actresses. Why had ADT decided to lock the corresponding threads on this board? You may think XPT is full of morons, but when two other sources are checking out the story, doesn't it deserve some play? And Stephanie, I'll make the point that Ashley Blue, for all you may think she is a cunt, at least has the balls to step out, perform at a high level and deliver the results on which your pathetic board relies. That entitles her a right to speak. That entitles you to nothing.

I realize the administrators over here hate MikeJeff or JMP or whoever. But that JM, Max and others have gone to the mat for you to defend their (and your) rights to make money on smut. You sit around and hide behind you facade of intelligence, pretending that you're the keeper or porn intelligence.

It also appears to be an ADT tradition to eliminate that which is not part of the "highbrow" porn discussion, as if there could ever be one. I dare you for even one day to allow discussion of such a topic, one which you have swept under the rug before.

'nuff said...checking out.




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#126810 - 11/04/05 03:20 PM Re: This is Not Funny
Smartt Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 5869
Loc: Instead of looking at the girl...

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#126811 - 11/04/05 03:44 PM Re: This is Not Funny
RENFIELD1 Offline
Gay For Pay

Registered: 07/04/05
Posts: 1006
Loc: The City That Never Sleeps, Tr...
It's 6:43 in NYC, is ADT down right now??

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#126812 - 11/04/05 03:47 PM Re: This is Not Funny
Willie D Offline

Porn Jesus

Registered: 09/20/05
Posts: 9181
Quote:

Just for reference...it is now 2:32 p.m. PST. More later.
2:45 p.m. PST... Scud delivered.
3:05 p.m. PST...10 reads, no replies
3:14...1st response...a Dutchman.
3:24...now it starts in earnest.



3:39...thread locked by moderator.

Enough said.

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#126813 - 11/04/05 03:52 PM Re: This is Not Funny
Willie D Offline

Porn Jesus

Registered: 09/20/05
Posts: 9181
Quote:

Try acting more like jamesn who may be acerbic at times but certainly posts some decent stuff without bullshit mixed in.



James...they paid you a deep compliment.

Oh, and BTW, the mod blocked his message function so you can't really respond. I was not the troll in question, though I did have a rather "acerbic" take on ADT's handling of this situation. I will continue.

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#126814 - 11/04/05 03:53 PM Re: This is Not Funny
RENFIELD1 Offline
Gay For Pay

Registered: 07/04/05
Posts: 1006
Loc: The City That Never Sleeps, Tr...
Thank you Sweet Dick Wilie.

OMG that is too funny over there. Hahaha they called you a dickhead. Fuckin assholes. And Isabela's comment, well that cums with the dumb cunt mentality.

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#126815 - 11/04/05 03:54 PM Re: This is Not Funny
Smartt Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 5869
Loc: Instead of looking at the girl...
I hope Scipio and DenverDon get AIDS and die.

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#126816 - 11/04/05 03:59 PM Re: This is Not Funny
RENFIELD1 Offline
Gay For Pay

Registered: 07/04/05
Posts: 1006
Loc: The City That Never Sleeps, Tr...
Hmmm I think Scipio has joined our forum.

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#126817 - 11/04/05 04:05 PM Re: This is Not Funny
scipio Offline
ADT regular

Registered: 11/04/05
Posts: 8
Hi kids, nice to see in your posts here that it was pretty much an excersise in trolling. But on the offchance that any of you want to have a serious discussion about it on ADT at any time, here's my response to WMP's "scud".

Mod Response -

Look dickhead, I was the one who locked the last thread. You know why I locked it? Because the guy who posted it had never posted anything before, and by his fourth post is posting drivel like this, which is clearly trolling.



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Mods here are not paid and are seperate to the Admins. I don't know fuck-all about Mike Jeff or Ashley Blue or whatever fued is going on and I really don't give a fuck. No money changed hands in order to get me to lock the thread with the post quoted above.

My opinion is that if you can talk about this like a bunch of adults without trolling, then I won't touch the conversation. If you act like trolls with bullshit, clearly-trolling statements, and accusations about this site, then it's clicky-clicky time. And for that matter, if you hate this site, why are you posting here in the first place? Just to have a little bitch session? Try acting more like jamesn who may be acerbic at times but certainly posts some decent stuff without bullshit mixed in.

Act like a fucking adult when you post, and there won't be any problems.

- scipio

Oh yeah, MelbaBlue, I have no idea who you are, nor do I care, but you're acting like a bloody little kid. Ass kisser nazi? Who's ass? Silly Melba.

[quote=Da Burglar]They nailed my "Hell on Wheels" ID
I wanted to start a fire over there "so big that god would notice again"....I suck at pyromania/playing stupid.




You're right. That was a really shitty and obvious troll attempt.

Smartt, you used to be Planet Sex, right? Coming from you, mate, who I agreed with so many times, your ill wishes wound me in a way that you can't even imagine. I bow to your rapier-lke wit.

An in case anyone considers this a reply-troll post, let me make my reasoning totally clear - It's to point out that if any of you guys (well, the ones who haven't been banned for being dickheads) want to discuss the topic on ADT, then I'm sure there'll be no problems as long as you attempt to do it like adults.

WMP's scud and whatsisname's posts were pretty clearly designed to troll, so they get deleted and locked. Check out "helpme"'s posts above if you want to see an example of a non-trolling post on this topic.

cheers,

scipio

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#126818 - 11/04/05 04:13 PM Re: This is Not Funny
Random Offline
Sex Slave Trader

Registered: 01/12/05
Posts: 1342
Scipio's a decent mod there. One of the more lenient and reasonable. You XPTers are just trying way too hard to make a scene. There are ways to address a real issue and at the same time ruffle feathers without going in guns blazing. It's pointless. And believe me when I say that no matter what faults Steph has as an administrator, she probably has nothing to do with any of this. You guys made it so blatantly obvious that you were there for no other reason then to just fling shit, you were destined for failure. If you were to fight Mike Tyson, would you really try to out-box him? No, you wouldn't. Don't take the administration head on, maneuver around them. Be subtle, stealthy.
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#126819 - 11/04/05 04:16 PM Re: This is Not Funny
scipio Offline
ADT regular

Registered: 11/04/05
Posts: 8
Quote:

Thank you Sweet Dick Wilie.

OMG that is too funny over there. Hahaha they called you a dickhead. Fuckin assholes. And Isabela's comment, well that cums with the dumb cunt mentality.




No, no. You see, you're failing to recognise the distinction between individual members of the site, and Mods, and the Admins. ADT isn't the Borg anymore than XPT or any other web forum is.

"they" didn't call him a dickhead. *I* did. And I did so in response for his assumption that my locking of the post was in some way related to the "feud" between the two websites when it had nothing to do with it.

scipio

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#126820 - 11/04/05 04:19 PM Re: This is Not Funny
2cums Offline
Registered Sex Offender

Registered: 04/16/04
Posts: 2415
Loc: On the Mia Rose bandwagon
Can we put scipio in the box?

So I went over to ADT to see what this is all about. You would think on a PORN BOARD that talent regularly sleeping with an HIV positive person would be news but not there.

Shiny Happy People

I'll never post there.
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#126821 - 11/04/05 04:25 PM Re: This is Not Funny
RENFIELD1 Offline
Gay For Pay

Registered: 07/04/05
Posts: 1006
Loc: The City That Never Sleeps, Tr...
Quote:

Quote:

Thank you Sweet Dick Wilie.

OMG that is too funny over there. Hahaha they called you a dickhead. Fuckin assholes. And Isabela's comment, well that cums with the dumb cunt mentality.




No, no. You see, you're failing to recognise the distinction between individual members of the site, and Mods, and the Admins. ADT isn't the Borg anymore than XPT or any other web forum is.

"they" didn't call him a dickhead. *I* did. And I did so in response for his assumption that my locking of the post was in some way related to the "feud" between the two websites when it had nothing to do with it.

scipio


Okay so YOU called him a dickhead, whoever did it, it was funny and you and they are assholes, cause the posts were legitimate and I thought they could of been answered, but instead the thread was closed.
That's the way it goes at ADT if Mods, Members, whoever doesnt agree or dont like what someone wrote they will either all join the bandwagon and jump on that person or lock the thread.
I have never seen so much ass kissing on a fuckin forum in my life. They all worship the whores on there whether they are good performers or not. Get off of their jock. Its sickening.

You cant voice your opinion over there, cause then you will get an email from STEPH....WTF???

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#126822 - 11/04/05 04:30 PM Re: This is Not Funny
2cums Offline
Registered Sex Offender

Registered: 04/16/04
Posts: 2415
Loc: On the Mia Rose bandwagon
Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Thank you Sweet Dick Wilie.

OMG that is too funny over there. Hahaha they called you a dickhead. Fuckin assholes. And Isabela's comment, well that cums with the dumb cunt mentality.




No, no. You see, you're failing to recognise the distinction between individual members of the site, and Mods, and the Admins. ADT isn't the Borg anymore than XPT or any other web forum is.

"they" didn't call him a dickhead. *I* did. And I did so in response for his assumption that my locking of the post was in some way related to the "feud" between the two websites when it had nothing to do with it.

scipio


Okay so YOU called him a dickhead, whoever did it, it was funny and you and they are assholes, cause the posts were legitimate and I thought they could of been answered, but instead the thread was closed.
That's the way it goes at ADT if Mods, Members, whoever doesnt agree or dont like what someone wrote they will either all join the bandwagon and jump on that person or lock the thread.
I have never seen so much ass kissing on a fuckin forum in my life. They all worship the whores on there whether they are good performers or not. Get off of their jock. Its sickening.

You cant voice your opinion over there, cause then you will get an email from STEPH....WTF???





Good points!

Why are you coming here to TROLL our boards and try to justify your actions?

Be gone
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#126823 - 11/04/05 04:33 PM Re: This is Not Funny
Smartt Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 5869
Loc: Instead of looking at the girl...
Quote:

Smartt, you used to be Planet Sex, right?




Wrong.


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#126824 - 11/04/05 04:39 PM Re: This is Not Funny
scipio Offline
ADT regular

Registered: 11/04/05
Posts: 8
Actually, I have to admit that Melba Blue's trolling did more to get that particular thread locked then WMP's "scud". But looking over the post itself, it's written in a completely accusatory tone, and ends with "checking out" as in "this is what I have to say, goodbye". So it wasn't off to a good start, but Melba was the one who sunk that particular boat.

And yeah, I'm personally not into the fanboi-mentality that many seem to have, but then they're not hurting anyone either. Same goes with the innumerable threads on DAP or what have you. /shrug

But hey, if you think ADT blows dead dogs, that's fine but there's nothing that says you have to post there either...

scipio

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#126825 - 11/04/05 04:41 PM Re: This is Not Funny
have2cit Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
scipio the only troll we have here is smartt, and yes he was planet sex over there, we had to endure him since he was banned there. Thanks alot.

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#126826 - 11/04/05 04:45 PM Re: This is Not Funny
scipio Offline
ADT regular

Registered: 11/04/05
Posts: 8
Hey, I had nothing to do with it. I think I was overseas at the time actually.

Oh, and 2cums, I'm sure if one of your mods considers me a troll then I'll be either banned quickly, or asked nicely to please fuck off thankyouverymuch. I'm just having a chat here to clarify a few misconceptions about ADT that members here seem to have.

scipio

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#126827 - 11/04/05 04:47 PM Re: This is Not Funny
RENFIELD1 Offline
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Registered: 07/04/05
Posts: 1006
Loc: The City That Never Sleeps, Tr...
Quote:

Hey, I had nothing to do with it. I think I was overseas at the time actually.

Oh, and 2cums, I'm sure if one of your mods considers me a troll then I'll be either banned quickly, or asked nicely to please fuck off thankyouverymuch. I'm just having a chat here to clarify a few misconceptions about ADT that members here seem to have.

scipio


Im not answering here for 2cums. Im just replying to what you just posted.

I have never seen anyone get banned here. And there has been some real assholes around here.
Maybe they have, but for as long as I been here I have never seen it.

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#126828 - 11/04/05 06:03 PM Re: This is Not Funny
JRV Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
Saying that nobody can discuss something until there is proof is a sure way of starting another HIV outbreak. Your attitude is exactly the one that got Tricia Deveraux and others HIV+.

Prior to Marc Wallice being unmasked there were rumors about him but nothing definitive. What shut Marc down was not sweeping the rumors under the rug but rather Luke Ford (yes, he deserves almost sole credit), who posted stories everywhere and wouldn't quit until Patrick Collins was forced to make Marc take an honest test. And Lo, that ended a string of HIV infections that had gone on for a year.

At the point of time of the ADT posts you already had industry participants on record on the issue in addition to whatever Luke posted: why not encourage other talent to ask questions? Isabel Ice is not well served by being told "nothing to see here; move along". You would be doing Isabel a favor to leave the thread open and asking "Orange Paddy" to carefully explain how the risks affect her, and suggesting that Isabel call or email friends to see what's up. Few seem to understand the parameters of the medical risks the talent take; situations like this are an opportunity to clear up those issues.

Ignorance is not bliss here, and prohibiting discussion on these thing falls firmly in the “encouraging ignorance” category.
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#126829 - 11/04/05 06:28 PM Re: This is Not Funny
scipio Offline
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Registered: 11/04/05
Posts: 8
Quote:

Saying that nobody can discuss something until there is proof is a sure way of starting another HIV outbreak. Your attitude is exactly the one that got Tricia Deveraux and others HIV+.

Prior to Marc Wallice being unmasked there were rumors about him but nothing definitive. What shut Marc down was not sweeping the rumors under the rug but rather Luke Ford (yes, he deserves almost sole credit), who posted stories everywhere and wouldn't quit until Patrick Collins was forced to make Marc take an honest test. And Lo, that ended a string of HIV infections that had gone on for a year.

At the point of time of the ADT posts you already had industry participants on record on the issue in addition to whatever Luke posted: why not encourage other talent to ask questions? Isabel Ice is not well served by being told "nothing to see here; move along". You would be doing Isabel a favor to leave the thread open and asking "Orange Paddy" to carefully explain how the risks affect her, and suggesting that Isabel call or email friends to see what's up. Few seem to understand the parameters of the medical risks the talent take; situations like this are an opportunity to clear up those issues.

Ignorance is not bliss here, and prohibiting discussion on these thing falls firmly in the “encouraging ignorance” category.




I'll grant you that my choice of words when locking the "Hell on Wheels" thread may not have been the best, but when the poster is clearly trolling then I'm not one to give the benefit of the doubt.

I don't have a particular dislike of Luke or anything, but I know he posts anything that anyone tells him, so when someone who is clearly trolling quotes Luke as his source, I'll tend to take it with a bucket of salt. In this case, I'm guilty of judging Luke's page guilty by association with who was quoting it.

I'm not sure what you're talking about with regard to Isabel Ice asking questions and "Orange Paddy"? I've been offline for a couple of hours just now. I don't see any problems with people talking about the Shane Diesel situation on any relevent web board, and as I said earlier today, helpme's posts, on this board and in this thread are a great example of talking about the issue rationally without trolling.

I certainly think that Isabel's post in the Hell on Wheels thread is extremely naive at best, and I'd expect anyone in the industry with more than a few brain cells to be asking their agents and producers a shitton of serious questions and asking each other who they've worked with.

I just checked ADT, and Drew has started a thread where people are welcome to post on the topic as adults. I welcome anyone from XPT who's interested enough (and can post without trolling and snipes to the website) to discuss the issue, as I can't see any problems with people discussing the Shane Diesel issue maturely.

cheers,

scipio

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#126830 - 11/04/05 06:54 PM Re: This is Not Funny
JRV Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
Quote:


I certainly think that Isabel's post in the Hell on Wheels thread is extremely naive at best, and I'd expect anyone in the industry with more than a few brain cells to be asking their agents and producers a shitton of serious questions and asking each other who they've worked with.




Sadly, agents and producer's don't seem particularly well educated or informed in this industry. Contrary to popular preconception, the best sources within the industry are probably other talent with college educations & experience reading in the field (a few exist).

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I just checked ADT, and Drew has started a thread where people are welcome to post on the topic as adults.



Drew isn't the problem. He has to promise to prevent Steph from banning anyone who disagrees with her. That's the problem with posting there.
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#126831 - 11/04/05 07:22 PM Re: This is Not Funny
Willie D Offline

Porn Jesus

Registered: 09/20/05
Posts: 9181
First, I demand an apology from scipio for calling me a "dickhead." I clearly disavowed myself of the post which you attributed to me. I told you I posted on XPT under my "regular name," and virtually invited you here to check me out. I also seriously doubt you checked IP ranges or did any homework before equating me with the other poster (name escapes me).

Second, I think my point has been proven. The ADT leadership, be they moderators, administrators or the 5,000 poster club which seems so elegant, is a very relaxed and bucolic bunch until some controversy erupts in the porn world (which is usually a few times a month). If you don't think the attitude of the ADT bigwigs is not influenced by their dislike of Jeff Steward, JM Prod, XPT, etc etc, you need to get reading on some message board history. It's called lurking, though in your instance it would be better called research. I don't know you and have nothing personal against you, but you obviously have something personal against me. Sorry you're that shallow.


Third, I consider this a personal victory because gypsy called me "Sweet Dick."

damn, my emotionsare so mixed

aww screwit.

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#126832 - 11/04/05 07:38 PM Re: This is Not Funny
Al Snow w/ Head Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 10/26/05
Posts: 319
Loc: Outskirts of Parts Unknown
Ugh. Ramsey......always bet on the fanboy being a fanboy.

Although admitting you are trying to flame a message board on another message board, then complaining that the thread got locked and you got deactivated for flaming is a little, uh, retarded. Don't ever hand the ADT braintrusts the blue pill to feed to their sheep.

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