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#11934 - 12/12/03 12:42 PM Watch out for PhotoHudson
jacelin Offline
ADT regular

Registered: 11/21/03
Posts: 4
Loc: Tampa Fla
Well just to imformed the board since this is where this guy found me at from PhotoHudson.com or D Hudson. The reason why i am putting him on here is because he contacted me yesterday and I would like all the females to watch out for him. Here are the emails listed below Thank god for emails you know.
----- Original Message -----
> From: "D. Hudson" <photo@photohudson.com>
> To: <jacelin@jacelinfyne.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 11:08 AM
> Subject: magazine work
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > saw your post on xxxporntalk and checked out your site. I'm a freelance
> > photographer for men's magazines. Alas, you say you've already been in
> > "Big Black Butt". I'll ask the editor if she wants more of you.
Meanwhile,
> > would you be interested in trying for "Juggs"? I do have possibilites of
> > some other butt magazines from other publishers who are more explicit
than
> > "Big Black Butt".
> >
> > Here is a sample of what I did for "Big Butt" (same editor as "Big Black
> > Butt"):
http://www.photohudson.com/newframeset.html?elektralatextest5.html
> >
> > I am in NYC.
> >
> > --
> > http://www.photohudson.com
> >
>
Jacelin,
There are other magazines. The pay will be a potential issue,
Pat R pays $500 model fee with a separate reasonable layout fee.
The other magazine lumps it all in and pays less overall.
Keeping to the same fair split of the pot -- 1/3 for model 2/3
photographer (who pays hair/makeup, etc. which takes ~ 1/3 )
reduces the model fee to potentially $300-$400.

There is a possibility of another mag from same publisher
which is a tit mag rather than a butt mag. I will investigate.
You can help by forwarding me the usual set of sample pictures.
- face pic
- full length frontal standing, hands well away from breasts
- full length rear standing, hands not covering ass and do not lean over
to exaggerate your ass (we will do such in the layout no problem but
these are for the editor).

The other publishers want more explicit stuff. B/G hardcore would
increase the payout for us all. This still is magazine, not video,
work so its much more of a 'setup'. I think you understand, if not I'll
explain but the main thing is to get our ground rules in order.
If you will consider g/g or b/g hardcore magazine style, please let me
know otherwise it is solo girl.

I think that in one day of work we can get out 2 layouts so that makes it
worth our while overall. To do that I need to line up 2 clients .

I don't think it possible we could do this before February.

----- Original Message -----
From: "D. Hudson" <photo@p...>
To: <jacelin@j...>
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: my pics Jacelin Fyne


> Hi,
> Got the pics. Um. Are these what you sent the photographer for "Big
Black
> Butt" to get that job?
>
> I know the editor. I can't imagine she accepted you based on these
pics.
> One is almost right except you are holding a Buccaneers flag in
front of
> yourself.
> At least they are all clear and exposed acceptably.
> The headshot is great, thank you.
> so lets go over this once more.
> Nude means no clothes, no banners just your bare bod completely
uncovered.
> There is no need to spread your pussy open. We know what's inside
and it
> distorts everything when you do that. Remember, you are not showing
pics
> to your fans I am not here to jerk off over these pictures I'm
trying to
> sell YOU to someone with $$$ to spend (because they will sell the
pics
> to indidividuals to jerk off over).
> I need to show 'the merchandise'.
>
> While you don't need pro makeup in these nude pictures, it would be
> helpful if your hair didn't look quite so awful.
>
> I don't say these things to insult you. I'm trying to help you help
me
> make money for us both. I'm a bit blunt sometimes, but this is
business.
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.photohudson.com
>
----- Original Message -----
From: "D. Hudson" <photo@p...>
To: "Jacelin Fyne" <jacelin@j...>
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 10:36 AM
Subject: guidelines


> This are the official photo guidelines from the publisher of the
> other butt magazine. I have removed the name of the firm and the
name of
> the magazine to prevent you from contacting them, not only have I
had
> trouble in the past with people contacting this firm (which annoyed
them)
> but your agent's attitude is perilously close to putting you on my
> blacklist. I'm a nice guy. Really. My objective is to make money
for
> myself and the models. In order to do that I have to comply with
the
> procedures set forth by my clients in both the inquiry stage and the
> nature of the content I produce. Failure to do so means no sale.
> Payment is made for the work which is mutually agreed upon in
advance.
> Only.
>
> SUBJECT NEEDS [title of busty magazine from this publisher removed]
The
> magazines showcase very busty, nude models. Models must be
extremely large
> breasted (minimum DD-cup bustline). Bikini sequences are also
recommended.
> Plump models are acceptable if they project strong sex appeal. We
are in
> need of hardcore girl-boy sets for this title. The use of sex toys
or
> fingers for insertion is accepted and encouraged.
>
> SUBJECT NEEDS FOR [butt magazine]: This title features studio or
outdoor
> sets of plump, rubenesque girls who project strong sex appeal, with
> emphasis on their overall bodies and not just their breasts. The
use of
> sex toys or fingers for insertion is encouraged. We are in need of
> hardcore boy-girl sets for this title.
>
> Payment: I offer the model 1/3 of the gross since that sum is
inclusive of
> the layout fee and the model fee. Therefore the range of pay for
the model
> is $333 - $450. The high end is for hardcore b/g and represents the
female
> portion of my talent budget (I have to pay the guy $150). I have
guys who
> will meet approval (tall, handsome, beefcake boys). You can supply
your
> own but they, too, are subject to approval (and if you get them to
work
> for free, you get their $150 model fee for yourself). BTW, do not
attempt
> to argue with me on the model fee. The split is fixed at a fair
> apportionment and the pot of money is determined by the publisher
and/or
> editor. Note that I'm open to reasonable discussion on many things
but
> arguing with me cancels any interest. I am not open to discussion on
> compensation, however please note that these fees are per layout.
If we do
> two layouts in one day (for different magazines) you get two model
fees.
>
>
> TEST SHOTS: We need to see nude, head-to-toe, front, back and side
shots.
> We also need to see a waist-up, front-on photo with the model
smiling, and
> obvious emphasis on her breasts.
>
>
>
> Before going off to discussion of the nature of a hardcore b/g set
for
> these magazines, I think it is best to simply yes/no the concept
and get
> approval from the editor. Having obtained said approval, a dialogue
can be
> established as to what sort of b/g acts they would like to see and
which
> of those acts you are willing to do for the money they offer.
>
>
> --
> http://www.photohudson.com
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacelin Fyne" <jacelin@j...>
To: "D. Hudson" <photo@p...>
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: just in case


> One I would like refs on people that want to work with me. Now I
have talked
> to Patrica as well as RL has and I will not want to work with
someone who
> has lied. I will contact the people with MMG and just to let you
know that
> Patrica is over JUGGS magazine bc its apart of Jiffy FulFillment
also. I
> will let other girls on the net know what you are up to and even
if I
> wanted to do the shoot for you I would like to know what magazines
these
> would of been for but since you lied do not contact me again and RL
has
> stated to you that my pictures are copyrighted.

----- Original Message -----
From: "D. Hudson" <photo@p...>
To: "Jacelin Fyne" <jacelin@j...>
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:16 PM
Subject: you've fucked up bigtime


> You are an ignorant idiot. You and your 'manager' "RL" do not
> know how to conduct business in professional manner.
> People like you give models a bad name.
> I have no interest in your photos and have erased them.
>
> YOu should long ago have learned to shut up and listen
> to people who know things you don't. Your misunderstanding
> of the magazine business in general and the corporate structure
> of Mavety Media Group is laughable.
> I never, ever, misrepresent myself. Rather it is ingorant twits
> like you who go misrepresenting my statements. This, however,
> is the beauty of email: I can readily prove what I said
> and that YOU are making trouble where there could have been profit.
>
>
> If you make any public statemnts of a negative nature about me to
anyone
> in a verbal or written manner you will find that I have a very
hungry and
> litigious attorney. You will find yourself slapped with a very
expensive
> slander suit if you have the stupidity to go around badmouthing
other
> people. I suggest you never, ever, mention me to anyone at any time.
> That includes other editors, photographers or models. Word gets
around.
> Also note that your attempts to smear my name with editors and
models
> is tortuous interference with business. Another expensive lawsuit
> which will require your presence in a NYC courtroom if you
transgress.
>
> You have been warned.
>
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.photohudson.com
>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacelin Fyne" <jacelin@j...>
To: "D. Hudson" <photo@p...>
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: just in case


> and dont threaten me at all you are the one that is not looking
like a
> business man here now are we
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacelin Fyne" <jacelin@j...>
To: "D. Hudson" <photo@p...>
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: just in case


> Thats ok with me do what you have to do bc one I am not crazy and
the truth
> always comes out.
_________________________
Jacelin fyne www.jacelinfyne.com jfyne ent jacelin@jacelinfyne.com

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#11935 - 12/12/03 03:24 PM Re: Watch out for PhotoHudson
Owen S Mouth Offline
Gay For Pay

Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 1043
Loc: Warsaw, Poland
That Son Of A Bitch!!
Hey, you should list yourself with the fine folks at www.Modelgig.com Robert (Modelgigs owner) loves big tits! He even tried to suck on my man boobs one day behind a local 7-11. Sadly, I had no milk to nourish his aching body.
However, we did find a crack ho that recently gave birth to a litter of coke hungry mutants. She approached us begging for money. We asked what we could get in return. She said all she could give us is some cocaine riddled teet juice. She lifted up her old, stained Garfiled t-shirt to reveal two huge white breasts. Man, they were fucking huge like albino watermelons!! Robert began salivating and made what I think were rude comments because he was only saying them in Italian. We gave the mattress back $3.00 and Robert slipped on his favorite tit drinking bib. It was really adorable to watch a 30 something guy drink himself silly from an addicts soiled milk bag.
When he finally finished we went in the 7-11 bought beef jerky and went home.
I wish I would've taken a picture.

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#11936 - 12/12/03 04:44 PM Re: Watch out for PhotoHudson
RobertF Offline
Human Garbage

Registered: 04/20/03
Posts: 1630
Loc: SoCal
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#11937 - 12/12/03 05:20 PM Re: Watch out for PhotoHudson
Owen S Mouth Offline
Gay For Pay

Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 1043
Loc: Warsaw, Poland
I'll never forget that day.

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#11938 - 12/15/03 07:40 PM Re: Watch out for PhotoHudson
photohudson Offline
ADT regular

Registered: 12/10/03
Posts: 8
Loc: NY,NY
Jacelin you were warned not to go spreadling lies.
I had a note from the editor at Big Black Butt that you contacted her with yet another lie. Fortunately, she knows me and realized that what you stated did not fit reality.

You contacted me. I offered to try to place you at magazines other than BBB of a similar nature. You sent a pile of photos that were useless save for one. I tried to explain what was needed. You flipped out and not only did you start insulting me you got this "RL" in on the act too.
I've got plenty of positive references from people who know me for years, worked with or for me or bought from me.
I never, ever, misrepresent myself. I really am annoyed by STUPID girls making up stories and then repeating those stories .

I warned you to keep your opionions to yourself and not go slandering me publicly. Now you're going to pay the hefty unpleasant price for your poor judgement.

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#11939 - 12/16/03 11:22 AM Re: Watch out for PhotoHudson
The Realist Offline
ADT regular

Registered: 12/16/03
Posts: 1
Ok Now RL is here. I dont have time to be going back and forth with someone that isnt worth it. About lies I have all copies of all your emails and the latest that you sent after being told do not contact us any more. And about that statement about contacting you first well stay in your fantasty world. And to be honest you are just mad that I informed you that the photos are copywrited and you cant use them. But thank you for all that you said and I got it all. So You have a nice day and I hope that you finally find someone that you can get to work with.

Sincerely

RL

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#11940 - 12/16/03 11:56 AM Re: Watch out for PhotoHudson
photohudson Offline
ADT regular

Registered: 12/10/03
Posts: 8
Loc: NY,NY
Quote:

Ok Now RL is here. I dont have time to be going back and forth with someone that isnt worth it. About lies I have all copies of all your emails and the latest that you sent after being told do not contact us any more. And about that statement about contacting you first well lie in your fantasty world. And to be honest you are just mad that I informed you that the photos are copywrited and you cant use them. But thank you for all that you said and I got it all. So You have a nice day and I hope that you finally find someone that you can get to work with.

Sincerely

RL



Unbelievably arrogant you stupid piece of shit.
I rejected the photos your girl sent me as unusable for purposes of getting work. did it ever cross your shit-filled brain that maybe, just maybe, I know what the editors want to see for samples because I've done this more than a few times before?
I'm sure those pics are copyrighted and you can bet that the copyright owner of that headshot is way different than the garbage you passed on. Do you in fact have a license from the copyright holder of that headshot or are you just using it because you want to?

The idea that I ever needed pictures of Jacelin for anything
but sending on to editors to get work is so pathetic its hard to even laugh. You obviously have an excessively high opinion of yourself and your girl.
Don't you see how stupid you look?
How utterly ignorant of the way that business is conducted in the real world?

You were warned. You ignored the warning. Now you'll pay the price. You think you can't be found? Surprise!
You will both be found by the process server and served.
Sure, it won't be tomorrow. It won't even be next week.
But happen it will.
I'm not going to sit back and let you run a smear campaign against me all over the Interneet. I'm going to have the court crucify you.

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#11941 - 12/16/03 06:42 PM Re: Watch out for PhotoHudson
Mike Meatmaster Offline
Pervert

Registered: 05/31/03
Posts: 2211
Loc: TX
Quote:

I'm not going to sit back and let you run a smear campaign against me all over the Interneet. I'm going to have the court crucify you.





What's the Interneet? Is that anything like the Internet?
_________________________
Formerly Pornfanintx

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#11942 - 12/17/03 05:25 AM Re: Watch out for PhotoHudson
Jeff Steward Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/14/03
Posts: 7408
Loc: JM Productions
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all women should be victims of something, because they lied. - big moose

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