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#111027 - 07/08/05 10:32 AM
Chlamydia Outbreak Source?
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 05/06/05
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Okay I read this, and I gotta wonder: if some make-up girl is really giving it up to guys, girls, directors, crew, actors and anyone in between "on a daily basis", why isn't somebody filming her? This make-up girl sounds like a total freak ho, and not some fake Jenna Haze freak ho, but the real deal.
Why doesn't somebody get this chick in front of the camera? Just make sure to wear a condom.
Chlamydia Outbreak Source?
Ron writes: "Rumor has it the recent Chlamydia epidemic is once again originating from a certain bisexual make-up artist, well-known in the XXX industry to be offering all her bodily orifices to cast, crew and directors alike without discrimination on a near-daily basis. Isn't it ironic that the people who work behind the scenes are sometimes more promiscuous than the talent?"
From SimplyJimmyD;
According to an amateur CDC sleuth corresponding with LukeIsBack.com, porn's current chlamydia outbreak--an outbreak the writer claims has reached "epidemic" proportions--can be traced back to a single individual: a porn-set MUA.
(Note: For anyone scratching their heads in mild confusion, CDC stands for the U.S. Dept. of Health's Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and MUA--having nothing to do with captured Viet Nam War vets--is an acronym for Makeup Artist.)
Anyway, I find it interesting that--whenever there's seems to be a health problem amongst porn's talent pool--it's so often claimed that it originates from outside the domestic talent pool-- you know, like Brazilians or Canadians and, this time, MUAs.
The ACDCS (Amateur CDC Sleuth) also lays blame on the aforementioned MUA by citing bisexuality and indiscriminate and wanton "offering (of) all her bodily orifices to cast, crew and directors alike."
Whether or not any of this is true, I have no idea. But I kinda noticed that the ACDCS--who by virtue of his concerned email to Mr. L. Ford must have simply forgotten to mention it-- forgot to mention anything about cast, crew, or directors exercising any form of restraint or responsibility when being offered these allegedly disease-ridden, bi-sexual, bodily orifices. And, I might add cuz the ACDCS added, being offered them on a "near-daily basis."
So here's the deal guys: If you're unsure you should be plowing a certain furrow with your man-plow, maybe you ought to listen to your instincts. And when being offered "bodily orifices" from someone who, word has it, wantonly does so "without discrimination on a near-daily basis," you might consider thinking twice about taking that person up on their offer.
The ACDCS ended his commentary with these insightful words: "Isn't it ironic that the people who work behind the scenes are sometimes more promiscuous than the talent?"
jimmyD sez: Well, yeah... maybe... key word being "sometimes."
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#111028 - 07/08/05 12:22 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/03/03
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Loc: TX, USA
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If the guys performing in porn were particular about the state of the hole they stuck their cock into who would be willing fuck the porn whores?
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#111029 - 07/08/05 04:56 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
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The san fernando p[orn industry consists of about 900 to 1200 working performers every month. About 90% of these performers use no protection whatsoever. It's like a huge unprotected sex orgy that goes on every single day.To even speculate that one person is responsible for an "outbreak" of chlamydia is so ridiculous that it really doent even deserve comment. Not to mention that the original article by LUke ford states that HALF of the porn workers are out with STD's is BEYOND ridiculous.
As jommy d states.."when being offered bodily orfices...from someone who whatonly does so on a daily basis you might think twice before taking them up on that offer"" Wouldnt this accurately describe EVERY SINGLE PERSON who works in porn.
If you have unprotected sex with multiple partners, who in turn are having unprotected sex with multitudes of other people you are going to get STD's and there is nothing anybody can do about it.
As i've stated in posts before, I work for tha san diego county helath department sexually transmitted disease unit. I have been a fan of porn for quite some time and I love these "INDUSTRY" chat and gossip sites. But when I see stupid things like HALF of the performers have std's I just cANt help but feel sorry for the people who read this stuff and actually believe it. Your own industry reporting such bullcrap about the std situation is laughable.
Your industry clinic (AIM) has a database of test results that companies use. Any one with access to that database can tell you that there is nowhere near HALF of the performers testing positive. Based on real world statistics and the fact that people test every mont(supposedly) I would estimate the rate to be at the most 5 to 7% positive, and that may even be alittle high.
This Luke Ford charachter does your industry no favors when he prints this unsubstaniated garbage. When all of the actual FACTS about the performers test results are availabe to your industry, why does someone like this ford guy print this trash. Not to mention that others in the Los Angeles County helath deprtment might see this crap and believe it.
If there was anywhere even close to 10% positives, the health department would be in there so fast it would make your head spin. AIM, like any other clinic, by law has to report to the health department any positive std tests, as does the laboratory that performs the tests. These two reports are mathched togehter to make sure each is properly reporting.(This is the job I do for San Diego County) To state that HALF of the performers are currently positive is, like I said, so far beyond ridiculous it barely deserves comment. And to blame one person for an outbreak out of thousds upon thousands upon thousands of acts of unprotected sex really makes me question the education level of said person doing the reporting, and the people who believe it.
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#111030 - 07/08/05 05:44 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 05/06/05
Posts: 132
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The san fernando p[orn industry consists of about 900 to 1200 working performers every month. About 90% of these performers use no protection whatsoever. It's like a huge unprotected sex orgy that goes on every single day.To even speculate that one person is responsible for an "outbreak" of chlamydia is so ridiculous that it really doent even deserve comment. Not to mention that the original article by LUke ford states that HALF of the porn workers are out with STD's is BEYOND ridiculous.
As jommy d states.."when being offered bodily orfices...from someone who whatonly does so on a daily basis you might think twice before taking them up on that offer"" Wouldnt this accurately describe EVERY SINGLE PERSON who works in porn.
If you have unprotected sex with multiple partners, who in turn are having unprotected sex with multitudes of other people you are going to get STD's and there is nothing anybody can do about it.
As i've stated in posts before, I work for tha san diego county helath department sexually transmitted disease unit. I have been a fan of porn for quite some time and I love these "INDUSTRY" chat and gossip sites. But when I see stupid things like HALF of the performers have std's I just cANt help but feel sorry for the people who read this stuff and actually believe it. Your own industry reporting such bullcrap about the std situation is laughable.
Your industry clinic (AIM) has a database of test results that companies use. Any one with access to that database can tell you that there is nowhere near HALF of the performers testing positive. Based on real world statistics and the fact that people test every mont(supposedly) I would estimate the rate to be at the most 5 to 7% positive, and that may even be alittle high.
This Luke Ford charachter does your industry no favors when he prints this unsubstaniated garbage. When all of the actual FACTS about the performers test results are availabe to your industry, why does someone like this ford guy print this trash. Not to mention that others in the Los Angeles County helath deprtment might see this crap and believe it.
If there was anywhere even close to 10% positives, the health department would be in there so fast it would make your head spin. AIM, like any other clinic, by law has to report to the health department any positive std tests, as does the laboratory that performs the tests. These two reports are mathched togehter to make sure each is properly reporting.(This is the job I do for San Diego County) To state that HALF of the performers are currently positive is, like I said, so far beyond ridiculous it barely deserves comment. And to blame one person for an outbreak out of thousds upon thousands upon thousands of acts of unprotected sex really makes me question the education level of said person doing the reporting, and the people who believe it.
Hey Sharon.
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#111031 - 07/08/05 06:12 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
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Jaimie, I guarenntee You I anm not Sharon Mitchell. Read some of my previous posts on this board and you will see that I am not her. But as usual on these boards, when someone offers up facts and/or insightful educated opinions, people begin to question the source and as usual ignore the substane of the post if favor of gossip and inuendo. I guess the actual facts about something as serious and contagioous std's is not as much fun or as entertaining as lies, gossip, innuendo, and outright bullshit.
That being said Jamie, what do you think of the actual information in my post? Would you mostly agree, or disagree or wou7ld you rather just try to fan the flames of gossip by attempting to pass me off as someone who I am not?
Specifically, what do you think about an industry "reporter'(luke), and i use the term "reporter" very loosley, who, when all of the facts are availabel to him, decides that he would rather print completely false information, hiding behing the cover story of "somebody sent this to me in an e-mail?
I dont know how to prove to you I'm not sharom mitchell, but if you're ever in san diego come to 3028 w. 5th street and ask for "helme" Everybody here knows who I am. I'd be more than glad to speak with you.
And Jamie, I do not mean to imply here that you attacked me in any way, but I would be interested in your opinion about what I put in my post, whether you believe i am sharom mitchell or not.
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#111032 - 07/08/05 06:44 PM
Re: Chlamydia Outbreak Source?
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 05/06/05
Posts: 132
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Jaimie, I guarenntee You I anm not Sharon Mitchell. Read some of my previous posts on this board and you will see that I am not her. But as usual on these boards, when someone offers up facts and/or insightful educated opinions, people begin to question the source and as usual ignore the substane of the post if favor of gossip and inuendo. I guess the actual facts about something as serious and contagioous std's is not as much fun or as entertaining as lies, gossip, innuendo, and outright bullshit.
That being said Jamie, what do you think of the actual information in my post? Would you mostly agree, or disagree or wou7ld you rather just try to fan the flames of gossip by attempting to pass me off as someone who I am not?
Specifically, what do you think about an industry "reporter'(luke), and i use the term "reporter" very loosley, who, when all of the facts are availabel to him, decides that he would rather print completely false information, hiding behing the cover story of "somebody sent this to me in an e-mail?
I dont know how to prove to you I'm not sharom mitchell, but if you're ever in san diego come to 3028 w. 5th street and ask for "helme" Everybody here knows who I am. I'd be more than glad to speak with you.
And Jamie, I do not mean to imply here that you attacked me in any way, but I would be interested in your opinion about what I put in my post, whether you believe i am sharom mitchell or not.
I was kidding. Sharon, as far as I know, doesn't generally keep that in touch with her fans ever since that crazy fuck nearly killed her outside of that club a few years ago. Relax, easy breathing. Yes, helpme you are very intelligent and yes, you got all your factual ducks lined up in a row. Nice and neat. But you are not Sharon Mitchell. I got it.
In your reply you were generally saying that everybody fucks everybody in porn sometimes outside of the regular piss pool, and more often than not, without a condom. Then you generally said that guys like Luke run presumptious stories (from fake e-mails from fake guys with fake handles -- wink wink helpme) placing the blame where it sometimes isn't warranted.
Uhm, that's not news!!!!!
A lot of people in porn are doing escort work on the side, and many others are fucking their fans, shooting up, using any and every drug out there, having one night stands, shooting 65 man creampie videos etc. -- this isn't news. As for the stats on that, I don't have them, but hey, I don't mind venturing a guess that it's over 50 percent of the performers working.
As for Luke not being a real journalist, I think he was once a very good journalist. His claim to fame, blowing the lid off the MW AIDS scandal in 97, definitely had its 'journalistic' merits. Now, I think he's grown bored with porn because nothing big has happened in awhile (minus the Darren James nightmare) and has generally impacted his writing. He doesn't care, and more often than not, neither does anybody else. This is porn! Hot nasty degrading sick meatholes gag factor slap happy porn. The same porn where girls are forced to vomit up their breakfast, get choked out, or take two and three dicks at one shot, all for our, the viewing audience's, pleasure.
Was the article Luke probably cut and pasted done in a sensationist fashion? Of course, that's what Luke does! He makes big things out of little things. And, honestly, that's what I want him to do. If I want straight ahead facts I'll head over to AVN where they can spoonfeed me the watered down nicey nicey stuff.
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#111033 - 07/08/05 07:51 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
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Thanks for the reply Jamie. And i do agree that Luke does serve a pupose, that being entertainment. And yes, he does 'sensationalize' things> But when he prints things that are outright untrue (...about half of the porn women in l.a. and alot of the men are out because of std's like chlamydia and gonnorea) it goes beyond 'sensationalizing' and moves into the realm of outright lies.
Good gossip stories, and tales of what goes on at real porn shoots are one thing, and yes we do find his tales to be entertaining, but when he prints outright lies about such improtant things as the health and wellbeing of people, and insinuates that somebody is intentionally infecting other people, that is going to far, in my humble opinion.
And I do agree with you about the escorting, drug abuse, alcohol abuse, and unprotected sex. Which is even more reason to believe that it is ridiculous to try to put the blame for an std outbreak on one person. SENSATIONALISM IS ONE THING, OUTRIGHT LIES ARE ANOTHER. In this case I believe luke has opted for the latter.
But hey this is porn, so who really gives a shit.These people obviously dont care about the risks they're taking so why should anyone else. And to any porn performer here who disagrees with this statement just answer this question to yourself honesly. Would I ENCOURAGE my own daughter to become a gonzo porn star? If your answer is yes, I sincerely hope you never have any children.
(I am sure there are porn performers who are very good, loving, parents, who would never encourage their daughters to do porn)
Have a nice evening Jamie, and thanks for the exchange of opinions. Your points are well taken.
Edited by helpme (07/08/05 07:58 PM)
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#111035 - 07/08/05 11:05 PM
Re: Chlamydia Outbreak Source?
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 12/10/04
Posts: 261
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And Jamie, I do not mean to imply here that you attacked me in any way, but I would be interested in your opinion about what I put in my post, whether you believe i am sharom mitchell or not.
I'm not Jaime so I can't speak for him but.....
Don't let facts get in the way of fun! Man shake out of it! ABC,NBC,CBS and FOX learned this a long time ago.
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#111036 - 07/08/05 11:44 PM
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Whoremaster
Registered: 01/25/04
Posts: 2742
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I didnt read all those words but i fucked her and Im a year with no std hahaa
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#111039 - 07/09/05 09:06 AM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 05/06/04
Posts: 951
Loc: IL
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I didnt read all those words but i fucked her and Im a year with no std hahaa
you're just a lucky whore.
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#111040 - 07/09/05 10:12 AM
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Whoremaster
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I didnt read all those words but i fucked her and Im a year with no std hahaa
Not sure why but that just sounds really hot.
it has been caught on film I do believe as an easter egg
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#111042 - 07/09/05 11:02 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/28/04
Posts: 4450
Loc: The Planet Houston
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I didnt read all those words but i fucked her and Im a year with no std hahaa
Not sure why but that just sounds really hot.
it has been caught on film I do believe as an easter egg
You're killin me if it's who i think.... 
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#111043 - 07/09/05 11:27 AM
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Registered: 05/31/03
Posts: 2211
Loc: TX
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anyone got a pic of this whore to share?
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#111044 - 07/09/05 12:11 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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#111045 - 07/09/05 02:09 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 05/06/04
Posts: 951
Loc: IL
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I don't care what she looks like, that cunt needs to be quarantined.
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#111047 - 07/09/05 09:01 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 01/19/04
Posts: 249
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Helpme doesn't have a clue. For starters, he should take a class in English as a Second Language.
Re: "The san fernando p[orn industry consists of about 900 to 1200 working performers every month. About 90% of these performers use no protection whatsoever. It's like a huge unprotected sex orgy that goes on every single day.To even speculate that one person is responsible for an "outbreak" of chlamydia is so ridiculous that it really doent even deserve comment. Not to mention that the original article by LUke ford states that HALF of the porn workers are out with STD's is BEYOND ridiculous."
During months like July, there are about 100 members of the talent pool working in the San Fernando Valley porn industry. For last week, perhaps there were about 60 different porn actors working. About 30 of those were women. I reported that about half of them were out because of STDS. That means about 15 women were out. For the one set I was on, five of their top choices for female talent were out with disease. Is it that hard to believe that another ten women in the Valley were out with disease?
"About 90% of these performers use no protection whatsoever."
Not at all clear. Studios such as Vivid are condom-only and some other talent are condom-only.
"It's like a huge unprotected sex orgy that goes on every single day."
That's nonsense. Many porners are highly selective who they work with and what they do. They check for test results. Many require condoms.
"If you have unprotected sex with multiple partners, who in turn are having unprotected sex with multitudes of other people you are going to get STD's and there is nothing anybody can do about it."
There are weeks where STDs are rife and there are weeks when they are rare. Your generalization is not accurate.
"As jommy d states.."when being offered bodily orfices...from someone who whatonly does so on a daily basis you might think twice before taking them up on that offer"" Wouldnt this accurately describe EVERY SINGLE PERSON who works in porn."
Nope. Almost everyone in porn has various things that they won't do or people they won't do.
"And to blame one person for an outbreak out of thousds upon thousands upon thousands of acts of unprotected sex really makes me question the education level of said person doing the reporting, and the people who believe it."
We've looked for patient zero in HIV outbreaks. It is not unreasonable to do the same here.
Helpme, with your shoddy thinking, spelling, and punctuation, you've obviously had only limited education. You might want to consult a dictionary before posting again.
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#111048 - 07/09/05 09:29 PM
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Registered: 07/09/05
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So, who is this bisexual makeup chick and why isn't she doing it on film?
She goes by 'Red Velvet'. It's porn veteran Captain Bob's daughter.
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#111051 - 07/09/05 10:25 PM
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You're killin me if it's who i think....
Disappointed? 
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#111052 - 07/09/05 10:36 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 05/06/04
Posts: 951
Loc: IL
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Crewwwguy, did you fuck her? If you did I suggest getting on anti-biotics ASAP!
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#111053 - 07/09/05 10:38 PM
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Registered: 07/09/05
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Crewwwguy, did you fuck her?
Man, everybody does... 
Red Velvet interviewed in AVN: "[I get hit on] by the actors and by everybody, because the make-up artists have this thing: they're the only ones who have their clothes on. Every make-up artist will get harassed," she says. "You know, I think I counted the amount of times I was hit on the other day: 11 times in one day. I don't really care, because it's all fun and nobody's ever serious, but there have been jokes about making a porno called 'Make-up Artists Go Bad,' because there's just this thing about the make-up artists always being the ones who are harassed on the set, even though there's, like, gorgeous women walking around naked." 
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#111054 - 07/09/05 10:41 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 05/06/04
Posts: 951
Loc: IL
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Crewwwguy, did you fuck her?
Man, everybody does...
yikes! I recommend everyone who has been within 50 feet of Red Velvet go to the clinic Monday morning.
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#111059 - 07/10/05 09:40 AM
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Registered: 07/09/05
Posts: 6
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I've seen a thousand porn chicks fucking in a gizillion scenes, but for whatever reason, this make-up chick just blows my mind. HOT!
Yeah, Jamie L Brian, that chick in your pic is hot, but it ain't Red Velvet. Red Velvet isn't nearly as good looking. Unless you're into that pasty 'heroin addict' look.
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#111062 - 07/10/05 11:52 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/28/04
Posts: 4450
Loc: The Planet Houston
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Unless you're into that pasty 'heroin addict' look.
You almost sound bitter crewguy. Did she shoot you down or something?
No shit. I'm glad you pointed that put as I was about to...
I know XPT-ers can be rather perceptive but crew guy is just spouting bile at the broad liberally .
She must have ditched him at the prom or something. But it's kool...share the grief.
we're here for you.
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#111067 - 07/14/05 12:03 PM
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ADT regular
Registered: 07/14/05
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anyone got a pic of this whore to share?
Sure. Here you go: Red Velvet website
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#111068 - 07/14/05 12:22 PM
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Porn Jesus
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this is great, i've never seen luke so mad. it's already been established that helpme is just smart enough to have an opinion and find facts but not quite where he needs to be to find the right ones or interpret them.
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#111070 - 07/16/05 12:04 PM
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Registered: 07/15/05
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yikes! I recommend everyone who has been within 50 feet of Red Velvet go to the clinic Monday morning.
Edited by frussen (07/16/05 01:07 PM)
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#111071 - 07/16/05 04:56 PM
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Porn Jesus
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ooooh, helpme's making a new reply! pay attention to this young man, he's going places. i could see him high-up in the ministry of lies, maybe even taking over the iraqi information-minister's old gig.
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#111072 - 07/16/05 04:57 PM
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Porn Jesus
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i'm wet with anticipation, it's taken him over 20 minutes!!!!
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#111073 - 07/16/05 05:29 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
Posts: 80
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Luke, lets set the FACTS straight.
1.)You said "During months like july there are about 100 performers working in the s.f. valley..." I just got off the phone with AIM,(firday 4:50 p.m.) in june they tested roughly 950 performers,and about 450 so far in july.(quite a bit more than 100)
2.)"STudios such as VIVID are condom only and some other talent are condom only" Many many many more performers use no protesction. Vivid uses a very small stable of performers, and many of the male talent they use do not use condoms when working for other companies.
3.)I said its like a huge unprotected sex orgy and you called that nonsense. If you recall the lase hiv outbreak the first generation list was about 12 people and the second about 55. I'll let you do the math and figure out how large the third and fourth generations would have been. and again, many more perrformers are non-condom than condom only.
4.)YOU said "There are weeks where std's are rife and there are weeks where they are not" That is absolutely false. Working with the san diego helath department I have checked the stats with the l.a. county health department sexually transmitted disease unit.(Headed by Dr.Ke.. ., a close personal friend of mine{i will no print his name here but if you do your homework then maybe you will{) The rates of reporting to the l.a. county by AIM is very consistent at about 50 to eighty gonn/chlam, or about 5 to 7% just like I stated. WHERE DO YOU GET THE INFO. ABOUT THE WEEKLY RATES BEING DIFFERENT? This would be a very interesting question for you to answer, or were you just making that up too?
5.)you state "Almost every person in porn has various things they wont do or people they wont do." This may be true but the people they do work with might be doing those things and doing those very people they wont work with.... Mary wont work with john, but john worked with joe... the very next day joe works with mary. Get the picture. Everyone in porn is in effect working with everyone else.
6.) You state, "we've looked for patient zero in hiv outbreaks its not unreasonable to do the same here." Absolutely false... The positive hiv were about 4 out of the entire working pool. Other std's are much more common and are constantly floating from one person to the next. HIV can also be geno typed and pheno typed to help figure out who infected whom. Luke I would also suggest that you actually read an AIM test result. The gonn/chlam tests say right on there that follow-up tests after medications can give "false positives due to the presence of cellular debris" ( I'll leave it up to you to do your homework and figure out what this means. Without understanding this your opinions on this matter are almost useless.) These 'positive' results must also be reported so the acutal number of individual infected is even lower than the 50 to 80 positives reported each month.
Where do you get this idea that in july only 100 perfomers are working? And if this is true then why have 450 tested at AIM this month? Porn companies have access to all of aim results. Why dont you call one of your friends at one of these companies to verify these numbers? Oh wait, then you would have to report the facts, and we all know that gossip and b.s. are alot more fun than facts.
7.) as far as my shoddy thinking, every single thing I have posted is a fact(CAN YOU SAY THE SAME) Actually, several of the things written in your post are outright wrong, as I have pointed out. But of course when gossip and b.s. are arguing with facts then I guess thats as good as you can do.
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#111074 - 07/16/05 05:31 PM
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50 minutes, new record.
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#111075 - 07/16/05 05:35 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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Jameson, checking facts acutally takes time, something alot of posters here obviously dont have.
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#111077 - 07/16/05 05:40 PM
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interpreting them correctly takes intelligence. my screename is jamesn and it's spelled "actually"-or do i need to check my facts?
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#111078 - 07/16/05 05:41 PM
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I guess the truth and actual facts are a little hard to take here in fantasy land. You may call it bullshit, but every single thing I have written is true, like it or not. I dont see a single person here(except Luke with his bullshit) disagree with me. The people on this board who actually work in the biz know that I am right. Just ask them.
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#111079 - 07/16/05 05:44 PM
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Porn Jesus
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ok, enough with the insults. i apologize for them. can i ask whether you work for AIM or have any affiliation with them to warrant the degree of faith you seem to have in their efforts? i'm not for porn performers dying either, just posters named smartt.
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#111080 - 07/16/05 05:45 PM
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And if we want to get picky coochie, you wrote "Maybe you should OF checked your facts." Shouldnt that be "maybe you should HAVE checked..) Why didnt you point this out jamesn?
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#111081 - 07/16/05 05:48 PM
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Im just a dirty negro, thats how we speak in da hood. I was just axin you a question. Why you so hostyle? Dont be crimpin the crampin on my stilo.
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#111082 - 07/16/05 05:48 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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As is stated jamesn, I work for the san diego county health department sexually transmitted disease untit. Several performers live in the san diego county, so AIM must report their positives to us. I deal with them every month. I have full confidence in their testing procedures and the accuaracy of their reporting. If they were not repoerting acuarately, we would know because the lab that performs the tests also must report the positives. Their reports are ALWAYS checked against one another to insure accuracy.
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#111083 - 07/16/05 05:49 PM
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Gay For Pay
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Whats Repoerting? Is that like Re-operating and Reporting?
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#111084 - 07/16/05 05:51 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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GEE WHIZ, I'm sorry that I make spelling mistakes when typing, but if thats the best you can do to refute what I've written then I guess you agree with me.
Like usual on this board, responding to the substance of the post is less important than maintaining the proper level of bullshit.
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#111085 - 07/16/05 05:53 PM
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Gay For Pay
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Actually im too busy jacking off to visual images aka porn to be reading your precious unabomber manifesto that you just published in 50 minutes.
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#111086 - 07/16/05 05:58 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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And yet again coochie proves me right. No intelligent response to the substance of the post.
Now here's a tissue to clean yourself off with, and dont look now but your mommy is coming down the hall so you better turn off the computer.(I couldn't resist)
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#111087 - 07/16/05 06:00 PM
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Porn Jesus
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you're right, you've been wrong so often in the past i didn't read what you wrote with an hour of your life. i'll take my chances rolling the dice and working with incomplete information since, well, i'm usually right. do they let you near those cool rubber hammers they hit your kneecapes with or just make you dump the biohazard-containers near elemantary-schools?
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#111088 - 07/16/05 06:06 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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Jamesn, please point out anything I have ever written that was wrong. And actually it dindnt take me 50 minutes to write. I wrote it about 45 minutes after talking to AIM. So you're wrong againg. But please, point out anything I have written that is wrong, and try to be specific so I can respond to it and make you look even more uninformed. If you notice, I dont think a single "performer" on this board has ever disagreed with what I've posted.
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#111089 - 07/16/05 06:24 PM
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Porn Jesus
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you can't figure out the cost of a test i wouldn't have the job i do if i couldn't throw rough numbers together for aim's overhead and support expenditures to basically maintain homeostasis. they're overcharging for testing-not by much to their credit. but not charging like a business with competition or making efforts to improve the quality and qualifications of their employees with the admittedly-small leftover portion of what they take in. and yes, i did look at comparable spaces for lease, what comparably-certified workers earn, etc. aim's not crooked, but not an amazingly well-oiled machine. exactly what qualifications do you have that i couldn't get in a year of noncompetitive-study?
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#111090 - 07/16/05 06:28 PM
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Porn Jesus
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coochie, this is great! we've got a live one here! see how angry he gets being challenged. i'm so turned on, i could care less about valid arguments as long as he keeps thrashing! enjoy your saturday-night you sexy phlebotomist you and remember not to have a stroke composing your next opus!
hot kisses,
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#111091 - 07/16/05 06:35 PM
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Gay For Pay
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Hey Dr. Kevorkian, I just read through your manifesto and I want to know much longer you have to use the internet from the prison tonight? You actually make several valid points, the only problems with those points are that they are completely logical and that any third grader who has taken a basic health class could come to the same conclusions as you. Why dont you do us all a favor before you short circuit tonight and have to go back to spooning with Skeeter, please try and come up with some possible solutions instead of bitching about problems you walking herpes virus.
Jamesn, "Fish on!" 
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#111092 - 07/16/05 06:39 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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Acually, AIM charges 'civilians' a more than the performers. But I dont see anything wrong in the post you cited other than the cost being 85 or 90 dollars for an hiv test.
Where do you get the notion that they are overcharging for tests. It is a fact that you CANNOT GET THESE TESTS FOR LESS COST OR FASTER TURN AROUND TIME ANYWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES AND POSSIBLY THE WORLD. That is a fact. And i guarantee you will not be alble to refute that.
But exactly what in the post you cited is incorrect.
Do you know how much aims rent is? Do you know how much the employees are paid? Do you know how much therir workers compensation bill is every month, insurance for the employees, salaries for the doctors,utilities, supplies, etc.
P.s. So far it has taken me 10 years of "after high school' education to get all of the degrees that I have and I am still in schoool. In about 18 months I will be one of only about 100 certified bioanalysts in the state of california, and one of about 750 in the U.S. How much education do you have?
And when I work I am much more careful about my spelling and puncuation just in case that was going to be the best you could come back at me with.
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#111093 - 07/16/05 06:45 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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Are you guys kidding, Playing with morons like the two of you is great. I dont often socialize with people with such low intelligence. Its fun to make you look like the idiots you are.. You couldnt make me angry if you tried. That would be like getting angry at a six month old baby because he's crying. You guys are a riot. You take yourself way to seriously. I was just trying to point out some facts about the porn industry because,well, the porn industry is too stupid to do it themselves.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but you guys arent worth getting angry over. I thought we were all just having fun and taking a few little shots at eachother...
But I still havent seen anyone show me where i've ever been wrong.
Jamesn, I am actually impressed that you know what a phlebotomist is. Maybe you did graduate sixth grade.
And since you asked what I do for a living what do you do?
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#111094 - 07/16/05 06:55 PM
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Porn Jesus
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wow dog, so it's taken you over 11.5 years to gain a bs and field experience? or are you doing one of those nightschool phD programs? thassalottaschool for $20 an hour, which is what i'm seeing that job start at.
yes, i figured in all of the things you axed about, it's not particuarly hard to find near-identical square-footage, standard insurance plans, or median-compensation figures.
i be edumacated yo.
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#111095 - 07/16/05 07:29 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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Jamesn, earlier in this thread i posted where i can be found any day monday through friday. Stop by anytime, it would be a blast to meet you. As far as $20 per hour, my salary from the county is $9,600 per month. I also teach at UCSD,(very limited{$18,460 total compensation last year}, and I have investments,(real estate holdings of about 3.3 mil) and a very diversified stock porfolio worth approx 800,000 to 950,000). And I'm the poor one in my family.(our combined net worth is probably about 17 to 20 mil) Or stop by the LOEWS CORONODO BAY RESORT in San Diego.MYself, two of my brothers and one of my sisters own it. I;ll comp you a room for the night because I doubt if you could afford it.
Like I stated before, I told you where I can be found. Feel free to stop by any time. I will be more than willing to put my money where my mouth is.
And yes i did get most of my money the old fasioned way, I inherited it.
But i still do find your lame attempts at belittling me humorous.
p.s. As a bioanalyst I will be able to command a salary in the 500,000 to 750,000 dollar range. And my value as a professor will go up about 20 fold. I could stop working today and never worry about money.That's a fact and I invite you to come meet me face to face. You know where i can be found.
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#111096 - 07/16/05 07:34 PM
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Gay For Pay
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Must be nice to be a real self made man without getting any money from mommy and daddy. Your a joke. Go back to your Bates Motel and murder some chlamydia infested whore.
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#111097 - 07/16/05 07:34 PM
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Porn Jesus
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yes! you just picked the worst person on the board to impress with money!
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#111098 - 07/16/05 07:40 PM
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coohie, my mommy and daddy didn't put me through school, or get me the grades. And jamsesn, if you read your posts it was YOU who bought up the money not me. As usual, i just responded to bullshit with the facts. I have never mentioned my wealth anywhere on this board before your lame attempt to put me down, so go choke on that you low budget loser. You couldn't afford my dry cleaning bill every week.
And coochie it should be YOU'RE a joke, not your a joke. I earned every degree I have and I worked my ass off to get where I am today. Can you say the same? I dont know for sure, but I doubt it.
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#111099 - 07/16/05 07:45 PM
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Gay For Pay
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No I'm sure they didnt, I was just referring to the fact that you probably inherited your money from Mommy and Daddy. Theres nothing wrong with that, its just pieces of shit like you that decide to pretend like they made all of their money, and they do something important in life, when in fact they 1) didnt make their own money, and 2) are undere the delusion that you are actually significant. Hey Mr. Bio man I've got a 5 year old jiz rag you can analyze. I'll give you a shoe shine and a stick of bubble gum.
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#111100 - 07/16/05 07:45 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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yes! you just picked the worst person on the board to impress with money!
As someone who has always been fortunate enough to have money, it never ceases to amaze me how people with no money are so quick to point out that money doesn't impress them, but you'll find them at the liqour store every week buying lottery tickets so they too can be wealthy. Dream on.
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#111101 - 07/16/05 07:48 PM
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how much is your dry-cleaning? i might be able to cover it, but those dresses get expensive.
btw, my mom pays deloitte about what you're worth every few years.
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#111102 - 07/16/05 07:53 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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No I'm sure they didnt, I was just referring to the fact that you probably inherited your money from Mommy and Daddy. Theres nothing wrong with that, its just pieces of shit like you that decide to pretend like they made all of their money, and they do something important in life, when in fact they 1) didnt make their own money, and 2) are undere the delusion that you are actually significant. Hey Mr. Bio man I've got a 5 year old jiz rag you can analyze. I'll give you a shoe shine and a stick of bubble gum.
I have no doubt that your jiz rag gets alot of attention from you. You probably even have a name for it. Most low budget losers like you guys couldnt afford anything better so you settle for what you can get. I cant imagine such a pathetic existence. And the fact is I do make my own money. I have not spent one single penny of my inheritence in oever 10 years. It's called planning for the future. When gas prices hit 5.00 a gallon i'll still be driving my SUV and you'll probably be carpooling with a bunch of other people who did'nt have the forsight to get enough education to survive in this economy.. But hey, people like me always need housekeepers and ditchdiggers to build our pools.
p.s. I pay my housekeeper almost triple what others in my neighborhood pay. I also provide helath insurance for her and her son. She's a part of my family. She works hard and that is what i respect about her.
And if you actually read my post I did say that i recieved an inheritance form my parents.
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#111103 - 07/16/05 07:57 PM
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FYI, I'm not poor I drive a limited edition 4.6 BMW X5, and live in a 2 million dollar house, but unlike you I do not feel the need to flaunt this information. Youve got to be asian, thats the only explanation for your little man syndrome and your need for building yourself up. In reference to you being Asian im referring to the fact that youve probably got a cock about half the size of Smartt's clit, and thats just embarassing.
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#111104 - 07/16/05 08:02 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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, when in fact they 1) didnt make their own money, and 2) are undere the delusion that you are actually significant.
Isnt it amazing how the 'have-nots' are always trying to put down those who have accomplished anything in their lives. If I am not actually significant as you say, then it goes to reason that you are as equally insignificant. But i bet your own family , and friends would think otherwise. You should really get some counseling regarding your low self-esteem issues. And for god's sake, get a new rag. Don't hate me just because I'm successful, hate me because I am an arrogant, selfish, pompos ass. Now do you feel better?
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#111105 - 07/16/05 08:05 PM
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Gay For Pay
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I'd feel better if you had an asshole gaping with that new KY Warm Sensation Lube dripping out of it. I'd feel better if you were able to genetically alter your dna so that you could turn yourself into a pretzel and suck your 2 inch dick. I'd feel even better if I could figure out how to upload this video of your wife and Lil Pimp onto this message board Lord knows that thing has given me weeks of pleasure, and will ultimately give you years of PAINNNNNNNNN.
EDIT:::: Instead of posting a reply everytime Ill simply respond this time to your most recent post by saying I had to use an example, with regards to the 2 million dollar house. You on the other hand began to give us an extensive tax breakdown of all of your assets. 
Edited by Coochie Monster (07/16/05 08:10 PM)
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#111106 - 07/16/05 08:07 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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FYI, I'm not poor I drive a limited edition 4.6 BMW X5, and live in a 2 million dollar house, but unlike you I do not feel the need to flaunt this information. Youve got to be asian, thats the only explanation for your little man syndrome and your need for building yourself up. In reference to you being Asian im referring to the fact that youve probably got a cock about half the size of Smartt's clit, and thats just embarassing.
Coochie, I know you can read....LIke i said before, I have never bought up my wealth until jamesn made a lame attempt at belittling me regarding how much money I make. I merely responded to his complete bullshit with the facts. I DID NOT BRING IT UP, JAMESN DID.
Then you go on to say "i live in a 2 million dollar house but i dont feel the need to flaunt it." Well what do you call what you just did? Or is hypoctrite the word I'm looking for. I'm glad you're successful.
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#111107 - 07/16/05 08:09 PM
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Coochie, you are contributing nothing here. Quit spamming the thread.
helpme made a serious post. He's allowed to do that. This isn't the Cage; if you have objections make them but don't hassle someone here for the sole reason that they made a serious post.
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#111108 - 07/16/05 08:10 PM
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Porn Jesus
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hey, 20-30/hour is what i'm seeing for starting bioanalyst salaries. if you've got an md or phd and can run a facility, you're doing a lot better. check your pm's, peasant.
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#111109 - 07/16/05 08:11 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
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I'd feel better if you had an asshole gaping with that new KY Warm Sensation Lube dripping out of it. I'd feel better if you were able to genetically alter your dna so that you could turn yourself into a pretzel and suck your 2 inch dick. I'd feel even better if I could figure out how to upload this video of your wife and Lil Pimp onto this message board Lord knows that thing has given me weeks of pleasure, and will ultimately give you years of PAINNNNNNNNN.
Is that the best you can do. Quite juvenile if I do say so myself. I thought people on this board could do better than that. Next thing you know you;ll be making mother jokes. Are you sure you;re old enough to be here? That last one was really WEAK, even for you. You shoud be ashamed of yourself. Where's the monkey when you need him?
The racist angle of your post was especially weak.
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#111110 - 07/16/05 08:18 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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hey, 20-30/hour is what i'm seeing for starting bioanalyst salaries. if you've got an md or phd and can run a facility, you're doing a lot better. check your pm's, peasant.
Jamesn, thanks for the pm. Perhaps i should have said CLINICAL BIOANALYST.(big difference) I didnt think anyone here actually checked on this stuff. And I completely agree with your message. thanks.
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#111111 - 07/16/05 08:58 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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Helpme, it was hard taking your posts seriously as the spelling and punctuation was so shoddy.
Regarding your claims, the best I can decipher them:
* AIM says they test about 1000 performers a month. That sounds like an excessive number to me but I don't know. I know that a lot of people test at AIM (such as myself) who are not performers.
* Most performers are not condom-mandatory. I agree. The percentage varies depending on such things as if there's been a recent HIV case.
* I remember AIM putting out periodic press releases about chlamydia outbreaks and the need for everyone to get tested. I find it hard to believe that the percentage is as stable as you say, but I don't know.
* I don't know much about medical testing, so I'll just have to take your word on the specifics.
Again, it's hard to take anything you write seriously as you read like someone with a third grade education.
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#111112 - 07/16/05 09:23 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
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Helpme, it was hard taking your posts seriously as the spelling and punctuation was so shoddy.
Regarding your claims, the best I can decipher them:
* AIM says they test about 1000 performers a month. That sounds like an excessive number to me but I don't know. I know that a lot of people test at AIM (such as myself) who are not performers.
* Most performers are not condom-mandatory. I agree. The percentage varies depending on such things as if there's been a recent HIV case.
* I remember AIM putting out periodic press releases about chlamydia outbreaks and the need for everyone to get tested. I find it hard to believe that the percentage is as stable as you say, but I don't know.
* I don't know much about medical testing, so I'll just have to take your word on the specifics.
Again, it's hard to take anything you write seriously as you read like someone with a third grade education.
Luke Luke Luke, where do I start?
For someone who covers the industry I find it amazing that you dont even know that AIM tests about 1000 performers a month. Have one of your buddies check the website with all the results. The facts are right there. Its that simple. Even you could do it.
YOU say the percentage of condom useres vary depending on thingsd like a recent hiv outbreak. There has only been one outbreak in lthe last seven years. And the vast majority of performers continued non-condom right through last years outbreak. Get real, please.
If I'm not mistaken, just about every press release AIM puts out encourages people to test. Is it possible that at times there are spikes in the number of positives? Of course, but to try to blame a spike like this on one person like you did is ridiculous.
For a supposed 'journalist"(in a recent article you posted, lara roxx asked if you were a "journalist" who coverd the adult industry. You said YES. Real journalists check their facts. The facts about AIM testing are availabel to companies online. ALL the results are there to see. Dont tell me a JOURNALIST like yourself cant verify these facts.
And its hard to take you seriously too luke, when alot of what you write is outright bullshit, especially regarding AIM.
But that is the job of a GOSSIP COLUMNIST, not a journalist. You seem to have lost site of the fact that you are a gossip writer, not a journalist. The sad fact is that some people believe the stuff you write without realizing this is a gossip,b.s., web blog.
But of course sometimes you do bring up good points and well you did hit the Marc W. incidents right on the head.
But please, when 'reporting' on something as vital as the health and well being of the performers , at least try to be semi accurate. That would be an improvement. The fact regarding these issues are easey to verify, it just takes a litle "journalistic investigating."
So what about that 'junkie phleb thing you wrote LUke. WHERE DID YOU GET THAT INFOR FROM? OR DID YOU JUST MAKE IT UP? I am referring to the short post a few months ago where you speculated that the reason they are so good with needles is because they are probably all ex junkies. WEll maybe they jjust all have YEARS of experience drawing blood. Doesnt that sound a bit more believalbe, but not as juicy as calling them junkies,right?
And of course luke is just like alot of people on this board. He cant respond with substance to the post so he attacks the typing skills and puncuation, as if that makes his owm total bullshit more beleivable. Good try Luke.
Do you have any journalism degree at all? Just wondering. I bet not, but I may be wrong. Am i wrong luke?
But I must also commend you for admitting that you know little about AIMS testing procedures(even after years of reporting about it) and little about the number of positives every month. But for a "journalist" covering this most important topic in your industry, how can you not know this stuff after so many YEARS?
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#111113 - 07/16/05 10:54 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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"I find it amazing that you dont even know that AIM tests about 1000 performers a month."
Just because there are official looking documents for something does not make them true. I am skeptical of the assertion that AIM tests 1000 performers a month.
"YOU say the percentage of condom useres vary depending on thingsd like a recent hiv outbreak. There has only been one outbreak in lthe last seven years."
There were four people in the Spring of 2004. Tony Montana in 1999. Five people in 1998. Four people in 1997.
"Is it possible that at times there are spikes in the number of positives? Of course, but to try to blame a spike like this on one person like you did is ridiculous."
I didn't blame anyone. I published the concerns of one industry person.
When someone is a "real" or not real journalist may be an interesting discussion but not one I'm going to plunge into it. It is too tiresome and there's not likely to be a clear conclusion.
"The facts about AIM testing are availabel to companies online. ALL the results are there to see. Dont tell me a JOURNALIST like yourself cant verify these facts."
Official looking documents do not necessarily equal truth. Some journos are great with documents. My skills lie elsewhere, with getting people to reveal themselves through their words.
"And its hard to take you seriously too luke, when alot of what you write is outright bullshit, especially regarding AIM."
For instance?
"So what about that 'junkie phleb thing you wrote LUke. WHERE DID YOU GET THAT INFOR FROM? OR DID YOU JUST MAKE IT UP?"
I don't make anything up unless an item is clearly identifiable as satire. I know from first-hand reports from AIM employees that some, perhaps many, of them have had histories as intravenous drug users.
"I am referring to the short post a few months ago where you speculated that the reason they are so good with needles is because they are probably all ex junkies."
I am positive I did not write it like that. I would never say "all."
"Do you have any journalism degree at all?"
Nope. Most good journalists don't.
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#111114 - 07/17/05 09:59 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/23/04
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Damn I go away for a week and this breaks out. This is the most informative thread I've read here on a lot of levels.
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#111115 - 07/17/05 10:26 AM
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Porn Jesus
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this is a candidate for second-best thread ever, it's got substance, it's got style, it's got luke angry enough to jump into a flamewar!
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#111116 - 07/17/05 10:50 AM
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Porn Jesus
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this is a candidate for second-best thread ever, it's got substance, it's got style, it's got luke angry enough to jump into a flamewar!
I agree.
I have a friend who has a similar job as helpmes', only for the State. I think he spends most of his time driving from county health department to county health department checking their records and such. I know he gets involved at times in individual outbreaks, and helps track down individuals and coerces them to be tested. For that, he was nicknamed Columbo. He says the worst cases are finding out a dad infected a child or an uncle gave it to his niece.
As far as I know there is no porn industry in our State so his job wouldn't be nearly as exciting.
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#111117 - 07/17/05 01:54 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
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"Just because there are official looking documents for something does not make them true."
Luke, are you trying to insinuate that the results availabel to the industry in AIM's online database are something less than accurate. That sure is a big accusation, if that is what you're implying.
"I didn't blame anyone. I published the "concerns" of one industry person." Correction Luke, You published the GOSSIP of one industry person.(BIG DIFFERENCE)
. My skills lie elsewhere, with getting people to reveal themselves through their words. So luke, "what did you want to be when you grew-up? Oh wait, where have I seen that same question a hundred times before?
"Do you have any journalism degree at all?"
Nope. Most good journalists don't. Actually, most good journalist do. Are you implying that you are a GOOD JOURNALIST?
A journalist is someone with a degree in journalism. Luke, you're a writer, and at times a good one, but at other times, well....." Just because I look at the stars at night does not make me an astonomer..Just because you write a web blog does not make you a "journalist"
But keep up the good work. Every once in a while you write some very entertaining stuff, and thats what we love you for.
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#111119 - 07/17/05 02:29 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
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A journalist is someone with a degree in journalism.
No. You won't find that definition anywhere. Virtually everyone would agree with the Random House Unabridged definition: "a person who practices the occupation or profession of journalism."
People may or may not think of Luke as a good journalist but that doesn't change things.
Without getting picky, websters dictionary defines journalist as "one who writes for a newspaper or periodical"
But either way , any journalist at least attempts to verify facts.
journalism, according to websters is "the writing and editing of NEWS items. Luke is a gossip columnist first and a sometimes journalist.
One measure of journalism would be if Luke has ever printend a retraction of anything that later turned out to be not true, like when he "reported" that a second generation male on the q-list last year was positive. After that proved to be false, there was never a retraction. A journalist would surely have set the record straight. Or was that gene ross who reported that. If it wasnt you luke, i apologize. Or did you just reprint the story from another site, without checking the facts.
But we love luke for what he is, an entertainer. And he is good at that.
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#111120 - 07/17/05 06:10 PM
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Porn Jesus
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A journalist is someone with a degree in journalism.
No. You won't find that definition anywhere. Virtually everyone would agree with the Random House Unabridged definition: "a person who practices the occupation or profession of journalism."
People may or may not think of Luke as a good journalist but that doesn't change things.
Without getting picky, websters dictionary defines journalist as "one who writes for a newspaper or periodical"
But either way , any journalist at least attempts to verify facts.
journalism, according to websters is "the writing and editing of NEWS items. Luke is a gossip columnist first and a sometimes journalist.
One measure of journalism would be if Luke has ever printend a retraction of anything that later turned out to be not true, like when he "reported" that a second generation male on the q-list last year was positive. After that proved to be false, there was never a retraction. A journalist would surely have set the record straight. Or was that gene ross who reported that. If it wasnt you luke, i apologize. Or did you just reprint the story from another site, without checking the facts.
But we love luke for what he is, an entertainer. And he is good at that.
No one asked for it but here is my opinion. Luke is a journalist. He is blurring the line between blogger and journalist admittedly but I've never seen him make up anything out of whole cloth. His niche and his forte, in my view, is printing his interviews verbatim, without editorializing and with a minimum of commentary. He lets the statements of his subjects speak for themselves. I don't recall anyone ever disputing an attributed quote he published, and if they did I feel sure he has the tape to back it up.
Helpme, I'm sorry you feel it necessary to resort to braggadocio and mudslinging to support your points. It seems to me that you could more easily do that by posting links to websites that publish your stats. In this case I'm not disputing what you say but merely saying that you are arguing from the vantage point that we should all accept you as who you say you are.
Fuck none of us belive that. Jamesn isn't from Harvard or in Cambridge, Monkey didn't go to Africa, Slutwife is not someone's slut wife, Evil Klown is a clever poster, Smutmutant isn't an employee of AVN, I don't live in New fucking Jersey and Malice isn't Simp and on and on.
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#111121 - 07/18/05 04:24 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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This was not me. I always make a swift retraction whenever I am notified of a mistake. You must not have read me long. "One measure of journalism would be if Luke has ever printend a retraction of anything that later turned out to be not true, like when he "reported" that a second generation male on the q-list last year was positive. After that proved to be false, there was never a retraction. A journalist would surely have set the record straight. Or was that gene ross who reported that. If it wasnt you luke, i apologize. Or did you just reprint the story from another site, without checking the facts." That was not me. AVN's Scott Ross did a similar mistake to that last Spring causing newspapers around the world to wrongly report a porner who was negative as HIV positive. More info here: http://www.adultbeat.com/
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#111122 - 07/18/05 04:28 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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http://www.lukeford.net/Images/photos/nytimes.jpgFrom page two of the 11/14/03 edition of NYT: "Editors' Note: An article in Business Day on Tuesday reported on a federal inquiry into suspected illegal wiretapping by a private investigator in Hollywood, Anthony Pellicano. The article incorporated a paragraph about an incident in which Mr. Pellicano recovered the body of Elizabeth Taylor's third husband, Mike Todd, which had been removed from its grave at a Chicago cemetery. That paragraph was reproduced nearly verbatim from a Weblog compiled by a Los Angeles journalist, Luke Ford, who adapted it from a passage in the 2000 book "Dish," by Jeannette Walls. In February 1994, a similar account appeared in Los Angeles magazine. The Times should have credited the Weblog for its version." http://www.lukeford.net/luke_ford/clips/clips4.htm
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#111123 - 07/18/05 04:30 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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I was talking to two of the leading establishment porn journalists last night. They both estimated the number of performers in a given month in the San Fernando Valley to be about 500.
I neither accept nor reject AIM's number of 1000. I'm agnostic.
I understand there will be about 8,000 original porn movies released this year.
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#111125 - 07/18/05 05:44 PM
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Porn Jesus
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I was talking to two of the leading establishment porn journalists last night.
out of curiosity, who were they?
who do you consider journalist, porn wise?
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#111126 - 07/21/05 09:19 AM
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out of curiosity, who were they?
who do you consider journalist, porn wise?
Very good question.
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#111127 - 07/21/05 01:16 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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As Genovesa Overholster (journalism professor) recently said: Asking who is a journalist is not a useful question. It is better to ask whether a piece of writing is journalism (does it follow journalistic norms?). Some of my work is journalism and some isn't.
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#111128 - 07/21/05 01:27 PM
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Bukkake Boy
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#111129 - 07/21/05 01:51 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/28/04
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As Genovesa Overholster (journalism professor) recently said: Asking who is a journalist is not a useful question. It is better to ask whether a piece of writing is journalism (does it follow journalistic norms?). Some of my work is journalism and some isn't.
my reasoning for the questions, was that of a gauge.
Since you mentioned and used the term "Porn Journalist" I was curious to know who you applied that label to.
Until it was posted on the Wicked Website, I never referred to myself as such and still feel slightly uncomfortable with said title.
That's why I asked. based on who you call a Porn Journalist, may justify the title when applied to myself.
Realistically, I know My site is fluffy, but that is the way I like it.
I want it to be a fun romp and not all hard hitting.
but I see other people's sites as well and if they are considered porn journalist, then maybe I should be more comfortable with the title
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#111130 - 07/24/05 11:26 AM
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IMO, anyone who writes about news for a living can call themself a journalist. There is no formal criteria. Whether you have a degree or not is irrelevant. Many of the world's best journalists don't. So don't sweat it.
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#111131 - 07/25/05 12:29 AM
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Define news. Quote:
IMO, anyone who writes about news for a living can call themself a journalist. There is no formal criteria. Whether you have a degree or not is irrelevant. Many of the world's best journalists don't. So don't sweat it.
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#111132 - 07/25/05 01:23 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/28/04
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Define news.
would that fall under the "neither here nor there" category?
i say that because it's pretty subjective to the person.
what may be of interest (news) to some may not be to others.
how can you qualify it? that would then bring into question, an art journalist? a sports journalist? valid? legitimate? based on what?
...i don't give a shit about sports, would I then correct in not acknowledging a sports journalist in being legitimist?
I don't think you can just broadly question what is or isn't news...
from dictionary.com:
news
1.
1. Information about recent events or happenings, especially as reported by newspapers, periodicals, radio, or television.
2. A presentation of such information, as in a newspaper or on a newscast.
2. New information of any kind: The requirement was news to him.
3. Newsworthy material: “a public figure on a scale unimaginable in America; whatever he did was news†(James Atlas).
definition 1.1 would validate reporting, as it were, on the porn industry. For example Does Nikki leaving JKP qualify as news? I say yes.
hence, I report the news and break stories (not to suck my own dick, but in the last year, i have been on the ball) so I think I qualify as a porn journalist.
my only qualm, was "am I in league to justify calling myself that?" but then I see some cats flippantly wearing the title but, IN MY OPINION, don't really back it up.
I just didn't wanna be one of those cats.
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