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#111077 - 07/16/05 05:40 PM
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Porn Jesus
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interpreting them correctly takes intelligence. my screename is jamesn and it's spelled "actually"-or do i need to check my facts?
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#111078 - 07/16/05 05:41 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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I guess the truth and actual facts are a little hard to take here in fantasy land. You may call it bullshit, but every single thing I have written is true, like it or not. I dont see a single person here(except Luke with his bullshit) disagree with me. The people on this board who actually work in the biz know that I am right. Just ask them.
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#111079 - 07/16/05 05:44 PM
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Porn Jesus
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ok, enough with the insults. i apologize for them. can i ask whether you work for AIM or have any affiliation with them to warrant the degree of faith you seem to have in their efforts? i'm not for porn performers dying either, just posters named smartt.
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#111080 - 07/16/05 05:45 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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And if we want to get picky coochie, you wrote "Maybe you should OF checked your facts." Shouldnt that be "maybe you should HAVE checked..) Why didnt you point this out jamesn?
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#111081 - 07/16/05 05:48 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 04/06/05
Posts: 959
Loc: The Outer Labia of Jenna Haze
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Im just a dirty negro, thats how we speak in da hood. I was just axin you a question. Why you so hostyle? Dont be crimpin the crampin on my stilo.
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#111082 - 07/16/05 05:48 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
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As is stated jamesn, I work for the san diego county health department sexually transmitted disease untit. Several performers live in the san diego county, so AIM must report their positives to us. I deal with them every month. I have full confidence in their testing procedures and the accuaracy of their reporting. If they were not repoerting acuarately, we would know because the lab that performs the tests also must report the positives. Their reports are ALWAYS checked against one another to insure accuracy.
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#111083 - 07/16/05 05:49 PM
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Gay For Pay
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Whats Repoerting? Is that like Re-operating and Reporting?
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#111084 - 07/16/05 05:51 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
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GEE WHIZ, I'm sorry that I make spelling mistakes when typing, but if thats the best you can do to refute what I've written then I guess you agree with me.
Like usual on this board, responding to the substance of the post is less important than maintaining the proper level of bullshit.
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#111085 - 07/16/05 05:53 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 04/06/05
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Actually im too busy jacking off to visual images aka porn to be reading your precious unabomber manifesto that you just published in 50 minutes.
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#111086 - 07/16/05 05:58 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
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And yet again coochie proves me right. No intelligent response to the substance of the post.
Now here's a tissue to clean yourself off with, and dont look now but your mommy is coming down the hall so you better turn off the computer.(I couldn't resist)
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#111087 - 07/16/05 06:00 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
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you're right, you've been wrong so often in the past i didn't read what you wrote with an hour of your life. i'll take my chances rolling the dice and working with incomplete information since, well, i'm usually right. do they let you near those cool rubber hammers they hit your kneecapes with or just make you dump the biohazard-containers near elemantary-schools?
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Martin Amis "honoring" katie price with a character bearing some of her traits
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#111088 - 07/16/05 06:06 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
Posts: 80
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Jamesn, please point out anything I have ever written that was wrong. And actually it dindnt take me 50 minutes to write. I wrote it about 45 minutes after talking to AIM. So you're wrong againg. But please, point out anything I have written that is wrong, and try to be specific so I can respond to it and make you look even more uninformed. If you notice, I dont think a single "performer" on this board has ever disagreed with what I've posted.
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#111089 - 07/16/05 06:24 PM
Re: Chlamydia Outbreak Source?
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
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you can't figure out the cost of a test i wouldn't have the job i do if i couldn't throw rough numbers together for aim's overhead and support expenditures to basically maintain homeostasis. they're overcharging for testing-not by much to their credit. but not charging like a business with competition or making efforts to improve the quality and qualifications of their employees with the admittedly-small leftover portion of what they take in. and yes, i did look at comparable spaces for lease, what comparably-certified workers earn, etc. aim's not crooked, but not an amazingly well-oiled machine. exactly what qualifications do you have that i couldn't get in a year of noncompetitive-study?
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Martin Amis "honoring" katie price with a character bearing some of her traits
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#111090 - 07/16/05 06:28 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
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coochie, this is great! we've got a live one here! see how angry he gets being challenged. i'm so turned on, i could care less about valid arguments as long as he keeps thrashing! enjoy your saturday-night you sexy phlebotomist you and remember not to have a stroke composing your next opus!
hot kisses,
slutwife
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#111091 - 07/16/05 06:35 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 04/06/05
Posts: 959
Loc: The Outer Labia of Jenna Haze
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Hey Dr. Kevorkian, I just read through your manifesto and I want to know much longer you have to use the internet from the prison tonight? You actually make several valid points, the only problems with those points are that they are completely logical and that any third grader who has taken a basic health class could come to the same conclusions as you. Why dont you do us all a favor before you short circuit tonight and have to go back to spooning with Skeeter, please try and come up with some possible solutions instead of bitching about problems you walking herpes virus.
Jamesn, "Fish on!" 
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#111092 - 07/16/05 06:39 PM
Re: Chlamydia Outbreak Source?
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
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Acually, AIM charges 'civilians' a more than the performers. But I dont see anything wrong in the post you cited other than the cost being 85 or 90 dollars for an hiv test.
Where do you get the notion that they are overcharging for tests. It is a fact that you CANNOT GET THESE TESTS FOR LESS COST OR FASTER TURN AROUND TIME ANYWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES AND POSSIBLY THE WORLD. That is a fact. And i guarantee you will not be alble to refute that.
But exactly what in the post you cited is incorrect.
Do you know how much aims rent is? Do you know how much the employees are paid? Do you know how much therir workers compensation bill is every month, insurance for the employees, salaries for the doctors,utilities, supplies, etc.
P.s. So far it has taken me 10 years of "after high school' education to get all of the degrees that I have and I am still in schoool. In about 18 months I will be one of only about 100 certified bioanalysts in the state of california, and one of about 750 in the U.S. How much education do you have?
And when I work I am much more careful about my spelling and puncuation just in case that was going to be the best you could come back at me with.
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#111093 - 07/16/05 06:45 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
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Are you guys kidding, Playing with morons like the two of you is great. I dont often socialize with people with such low intelligence. Its fun to make you look like the idiots you are.. You couldnt make me angry if you tried. That would be like getting angry at a six month old baby because he's crying. You guys are a riot. You take yourself way to seriously. I was just trying to point out some facts about the porn industry because,well, the porn industry is too stupid to do it themselves.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but you guys arent worth getting angry over. I thought we were all just having fun and taking a few little shots at eachother...
But I still havent seen anyone show me where i've ever been wrong.
Jamesn, I am actually impressed that you know what a phlebotomist is. Maybe you did graduate sixth grade.
And since you asked what I do for a living what do you do?
Edited by helpme (07/16/05 06:51 PM)
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#111094 - 07/16/05 06:55 PM
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Porn Jesus
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wow dog, so it's taken you over 11.5 years to gain a bs and field experience? or are you doing one of those nightschool phD programs? thassalottaschool for $20 an hour, which is what i'm seeing that job start at.
yes, i figured in all of the things you axed about, it's not particuarly hard to find near-identical square-footage, standard insurance plans, or median-compensation figures.
i be edumacated yo.
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Martin Amis "honoring" katie price with a character bearing some of her traits
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#111095 - 07/16/05 07:29 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
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Jamesn, earlier in this thread i posted where i can be found any day monday through friday. Stop by anytime, it would be a blast to meet you. As far as $20 per hour, my salary from the county is $9,600 per month. I also teach at UCSD,(very limited{$18,460 total compensation last year}, and I have investments,(real estate holdings of about 3.3 mil) and a very diversified stock porfolio worth approx 800,000 to 950,000). And I'm the poor one in my family.(our combined net worth is probably about 17 to 20 mil) Or stop by the LOEWS CORONODO BAY RESORT in San Diego.MYself, two of my brothers and one of my sisters own it. I;ll comp you a room for the night because I doubt if you could afford it.
Like I stated before, I told you where I can be found. Feel free to stop by any time. I will be more than willing to put my money where my mouth is.
And yes i did get most of my money the old fasioned way, I inherited it.
But i still do find your lame attempts at belittling me humorous.
p.s. As a bioanalyst I will be able to command a salary in the 500,000 to 750,000 dollar range. And my value as a professor will go up about 20 fold. I could stop working today and never worry about money.That's a fact and I invite you to come meet me face to face. You know where i can be found.
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#111096 - 07/16/05 07:34 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 04/06/05
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Loc: The Outer Labia of Jenna Haze
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Must be nice to be a real self made man without getting any money from mommy and daddy. Your a joke. Go back to your Bates Motel and murder some chlamydia infested whore.
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#111097 - 07/16/05 07:34 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
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yes! you just picked the worst person on the board to impress with money!
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#111098 - 07/16/05 07:40 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
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coohie, my mommy and daddy didn't put me through school, or get me the grades. And jamsesn, if you read your posts it was YOU who bought up the money not me. As usual, i just responded to bullshit with the facts. I have never mentioned my wealth anywhere on this board before your lame attempt to put me down, so go choke on that you low budget loser. You couldn't afford my dry cleaning bill every week.
And coochie it should be YOU'RE a joke, not your a joke. I earned every degree I have and I worked my ass off to get where I am today. Can you say the same? I dont know for sure, but I doubt it.
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#111099 - 07/16/05 07:45 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 04/06/05
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No I'm sure they didnt, I was just referring to the fact that you probably inherited your money from Mommy and Daddy. Theres nothing wrong with that, its just pieces of shit like you that decide to pretend like they made all of their money, and they do something important in life, when in fact they 1) didnt make their own money, and 2) are undere the delusion that you are actually significant. Hey Mr. Bio man I've got a 5 year old jiz rag you can analyze. I'll give you a shoe shine and a stick of bubble gum.
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#111100 - 07/16/05 07:45 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
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yes! you just picked the worst person on the board to impress with money!
As someone who has always been fortunate enough to have money, it never ceases to amaze me how people with no money are so quick to point out that money doesn't impress them, but you'll find them at the liqour store every week buying lottery tickets so they too can be wealthy. Dream on.
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#111101 - 07/16/05 07:48 PM
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Porn Jesus
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how much is your dry-cleaning? i might be able to cover it, but those dresses get expensive.
btw, my mom pays deloitte about what you're worth every few years.
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#111102 - 07/16/05 07:53 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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No I'm sure they didnt, I was just referring to the fact that you probably inherited your money from Mommy and Daddy. Theres nothing wrong with that, its just pieces of shit like you that decide to pretend like they made all of their money, and they do something important in life, when in fact they 1) didnt make their own money, and 2) are undere the delusion that you are actually significant. Hey Mr. Bio man I've got a 5 year old jiz rag you can analyze. I'll give you a shoe shine and a stick of bubble gum.
I have no doubt that your jiz rag gets alot of attention from you. You probably even have a name for it. Most low budget losers like you guys couldnt afford anything better so you settle for what you can get. I cant imagine such a pathetic existence. And the fact is I do make my own money. I have not spent one single penny of my inheritence in oever 10 years. It's called planning for the future. When gas prices hit 5.00 a gallon i'll still be driving my SUV and you'll probably be carpooling with a bunch of other people who did'nt have the forsight to get enough education to survive in this economy.. But hey, people like me always need housekeepers and ditchdiggers to build our pools.
p.s. I pay my housekeeper almost triple what others in my neighborhood pay. I also provide helath insurance for her and her son. She's a part of my family. She works hard and that is what i respect about her.
And if you actually read my post I did say that i recieved an inheritance form my parents.
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#111103 - 07/16/05 07:57 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 04/06/05
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Loc: The Outer Labia of Jenna Haze
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FYI, I'm not poor I drive a limited edition 4.6 BMW X5, and live in a 2 million dollar house, but unlike you I do not feel the need to flaunt this information. Youve got to be asian, thats the only explanation for your little man syndrome and your need for building yourself up. In reference to you being Asian im referring to the fact that youve probably got a cock about half the size of Smartt's clit, and thats just embarassing.
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#111104 - 07/16/05 08:02 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
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, when in fact they 1) didnt make their own money, and 2) are undere the delusion that you are actually significant.
Isnt it amazing how the 'have-nots' are always trying to put down those who have accomplished anything in their lives. If I am not actually significant as you say, then it goes to reason that you are as equally insignificant. But i bet your own family , and friends would think otherwise. You should really get some counseling regarding your low self-esteem issues. And for god's sake, get a new rag. Don't hate me just because I'm successful, hate me because I am an arrogant, selfish, pompos ass. Now do you feel better?
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#111105 - 07/16/05 08:05 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 04/06/05
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I'd feel better if you had an asshole gaping with that new KY Warm Sensation Lube dripping out of it. I'd feel better if you were able to genetically alter your dna so that you could turn yourself into a pretzel and suck your 2 inch dick. I'd feel even better if I could figure out how to upload this video of your wife and Lil Pimp onto this message board Lord knows that thing has given me weeks of pleasure, and will ultimately give you years of PAINNNNNNNNN.
EDIT:::: Instead of posting a reply everytime Ill simply respond this time to your most recent post by saying I had to use an example, with regards to the 2 million dollar house. You on the other hand began to give us an extensive tax breakdown of all of your assets. 
Edited by Coochie Monster (07/16/05 08:10 PM)
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#111106 - 07/16/05 08:07 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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FYI, I'm not poor I drive a limited edition 4.6 BMW X5, and live in a 2 million dollar house, but unlike you I do not feel the need to flaunt this information. Youve got to be asian, thats the only explanation for your little man syndrome and your need for building yourself up. In reference to you being Asian im referring to the fact that youve probably got a cock about half the size of Smartt's clit, and thats just embarassing.
Coochie, I know you can read....LIke i said before, I have never bought up my wealth until jamesn made a lame attempt at belittling me regarding how much money I make. I merely responded to his complete bullshit with the facts. I DID NOT BRING IT UP, JAMESN DID.
Then you go on to say "i live in a 2 million dollar house but i dont feel the need to flaunt it." Well what do you call what you just did? Or is hypoctrite the word I'm looking for. I'm glad you're successful.
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#111107 - 07/16/05 08:09 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/03/03
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Coochie, you are contributing nothing here. Quit spamming the thread.
helpme made a serious post. He's allowed to do that. This isn't the Cage; if you have objections make them but don't hassle someone here for the sole reason that they made a serious post.
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#111108 - 07/16/05 08:10 PM
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Porn Jesus
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hey, 20-30/hour is what i'm seeing for starting bioanalyst salaries. if you've got an md or phd and can run a facility, you're doing a lot better. check your pm's, peasant.
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Martin Amis "honoring" katie price with a character bearing some of her traits
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#111109 - 07/16/05 08:11 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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I'd feel better if you had an asshole gaping with that new KY Warm Sensation Lube dripping out of it. I'd feel better if you were able to genetically alter your dna so that you could turn yourself into a pretzel and suck your 2 inch dick. I'd feel even better if I could figure out how to upload this video of your wife and Lil Pimp onto this message board Lord knows that thing has given me weeks of pleasure, and will ultimately give you years of PAINNNNNNNNN.
Is that the best you can do. Quite juvenile if I do say so myself. I thought people on this board could do better than that. Next thing you know you;ll be making mother jokes. Are you sure you;re old enough to be here? That last one was really WEAK, even for you. You shoud be ashamed of yourself. Where's the monkey when you need him?
The racist angle of your post was especially weak.
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#111110 - 07/16/05 08:18 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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hey, 20-30/hour is what i'm seeing for starting bioanalyst salaries. if you've got an md or phd and can run a facility, you're doing a lot better. check your pm's, peasant.
Jamesn, thanks for the pm. Perhaps i should have said CLINICAL BIOANALYST.(big difference) I didnt think anyone here actually checked on this stuff. And I completely agree with your message. thanks.
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#111111 - 07/16/05 08:58 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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Helpme, it was hard taking your posts seriously as the spelling and punctuation was so shoddy.
Regarding your claims, the best I can decipher them:
* AIM says they test about 1000 performers a month. That sounds like an excessive number to me but I don't know. I know that a lot of people test at AIM (such as myself) who are not performers.
* Most performers are not condom-mandatory. I agree. The percentage varies depending on such things as if there's been a recent HIV case.
* I remember AIM putting out periodic press releases about chlamydia outbreaks and the need for everyone to get tested. I find it hard to believe that the percentage is as stable as you say, but I don't know.
* I don't know much about medical testing, so I'll just have to take your word on the specifics.
Again, it's hard to take anything you write seriously as you read like someone with a third grade education.
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#111112 - 07/16/05 09:23 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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Helpme, it was hard taking your posts seriously as the spelling and punctuation was so shoddy.
Regarding your claims, the best I can decipher them:
* AIM says they test about 1000 performers a month. That sounds like an excessive number to me but I don't know. I know that a lot of people test at AIM (such as myself) who are not performers.
* Most performers are not condom-mandatory. I agree. The percentage varies depending on such things as if there's been a recent HIV case.
* I remember AIM putting out periodic press releases about chlamydia outbreaks and the need for everyone to get tested. I find it hard to believe that the percentage is as stable as you say, but I don't know.
* I don't know much about medical testing, so I'll just have to take your word on the specifics.
Again, it's hard to take anything you write seriously as you read like someone with a third grade education.
Luke Luke Luke, where do I start?
For someone who covers the industry I find it amazing that you dont even know that AIM tests about 1000 performers a month. Have one of your buddies check the website with all the results. The facts are right there. Its that simple. Even you could do it.
YOU say the percentage of condom useres vary depending on thingsd like a recent hiv outbreak. There has only been one outbreak in lthe last seven years. And the vast majority of performers continued non-condom right through last years outbreak. Get real, please.
If I'm not mistaken, just about every press release AIM puts out encourages people to test. Is it possible that at times there are spikes in the number of positives? Of course, but to try to blame a spike like this on one person like you did is ridiculous.
For a supposed 'journalist"(in a recent article you posted, lara roxx asked if you were a "journalist" who coverd the adult industry. You said YES. Real journalists check their facts. The facts about AIM testing are availabel to companies online. ALL the results are there to see. Dont tell me a JOURNALIST like yourself cant verify these facts.
And its hard to take you seriously too luke, when alot of what you write is outright bullshit, especially regarding AIM.
But that is the job of a GOSSIP COLUMNIST, not a journalist. You seem to have lost site of the fact that you are a gossip writer, not a journalist. The sad fact is that some people believe the stuff you write without realizing this is a gossip,b.s., web blog.
But of course sometimes you do bring up good points and well you did hit the Marc W. incidents right on the head.
But please, when 'reporting' on something as vital as the health and well being of the performers , at least try to be semi accurate. That would be an improvement. The fact regarding these issues are easey to verify, it just takes a litle "journalistic investigating."
So what about that 'junkie phleb thing you wrote LUke. WHERE DID YOU GET THAT INFOR FROM? OR DID YOU JUST MAKE IT UP? I am referring to the short post a few months ago where you speculated that the reason they are so good with needles is because they are probably all ex junkies. WEll maybe they jjust all have YEARS of experience drawing blood. Doesnt that sound a bit more believalbe, but not as juicy as calling them junkies,right?
And of course luke is just like alot of people on this board. He cant respond with substance to the post so he attacks the typing skills and puncuation, as if that makes his owm total bullshit more beleivable. Good try Luke.
Do you have any journalism degree at all? Just wondering. I bet not, but I may be wrong. Am i wrong luke?
But I must also commend you for admitting that you know little about AIMS testing procedures(even after years of reporting about it) and little about the number of positives every month. But for a "journalist" covering this most important topic in your industry, how can you not know this stuff after so many YEARS?
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#111113 - 07/16/05 10:54 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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"I find it amazing that you dont even know that AIM tests about 1000 performers a month."
Just because there are official looking documents for something does not make them true. I am skeptical of the assertion that AIM tests 1000 performers a month.
"YOU say the percentage of condom useres vary depending on thingsd like a recent hiv outbreak. There has only been one outbreak in lthe last seven years."
There were four people in the Spring of 2004. Tony Montana in 1999. Five people in 1998. Four people in 1997.
"Is it possible that at times there are spikes in the number of positives? Of course, but to try to blame a spike like this on one person like you did is ridiculous."
I didn't blame anyone. I published the concerns of one industry person.
When someone is a "real" or not real journalist may be an interesting discussion but not one I'm going to plunge into it. It is too tiresome and there's not likely to be a clear conclusion.
"The facts about AIM testing are availabel to companies online. ALL the results are there to see. Dont tell me a JOURNALIST like yourself cant verify these facts."
Official looking documents do not necessarily equal truth. Some journos are great with documents. My skills lie elsewhere, with getting people to reveal themselves through their words.
"And its hard to take you seriously too luke, when alot of what you write is outright bullshit, especially regarding AIM."
For instance?
"So what about that 'junkie phleb thing you wrote LUke. WHERE DID YOU GET THAT INFOR FROM? OR DID YOU JUST MAKE IT UP?"
I don't make anything up unless an item is clearly identifiable as satire. I know from first-hand reports from AIM employees that some, perhaps many, of them have had histories as intravenous drug users.
"I am referring to the short post a few months ago where you speculated that the reason they are so good with needles is because they are probably all ex junkies."
I am positive I did not write it like that. I would never say "all."
"Do you have any journalism degree at all?"
Nope. Most good journalists don't.
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#111114 - 07/17/05 09:59 AM
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Porn Jesus
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Damn I go away for a week and this breaks out. This is the most informative thread I've read here on a lot of levels.
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#111115 - 07/17/05 10:26 AM
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this is a candidate for second-best thread ever, it's got substance, it's got style, it's got luke angry enough to jump into a flamewar!
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#111116 - 07/17/05 10:50 AM
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this is a candidate for second-best thread ever, it's got substance, it's got style, it's got luke angry enough to jump into a flamewar!
I agree.
I have a friend who has a similar job as helpmes', only for the State. I think he spends most of his time driving from county health department to county health department checking their records and such. I know he gets involved at times in individual outbreaks, and helps track down individuals and coerces them to be tested. For that, he was nicknamed Columbo. He says the worst cases are finding out a dad infected a child or an uncle gave it to his niece.
As far as I know there is no porn industry in our State so his job wouldn't be nearly as exciting.
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#111117 - 07/17/05 01:54 PM
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"Just because there are official looking documents for something does not make them true."
Luke, are you trying to insinuate that the results availabel to the industry in AIM's online database are something less than accurate. That sure is a big accusation, if that is what you're implying.
"I didn't blame anyone. I published the "concerns" of one industry person." Correction Luke, You published the GOSSIP of one industry person.(BIG DIFFERENCE)
. My skills lie elsewhere, with getting people to reveal themselves through their words. So luke, "what did you want to be when you grew-up? Oh wait, where have I seen that same question a hundred times before?
"Do you have any journalism degree at all?"
Nope. Most good journalists don't. Actually, most good journalist do. Are you implying that you are a GOOD JOURNALIST?
A journalist is someone with a degree in journalism. Luke, you're a writer, and at times a good one, but at other times, well....." Just because I look at the stars at night does not make me an astonomer..Just because you write a web blog does not make you a "journalist"
But keep up the good work. Every once in a while you write some very entertaining stuff, and thats what we love you for.
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#111119 - 07/17/05 02:29 PM
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A journalist is someone with a degree in journalism.
No. You won't find that definition anywhere. Virtually everyone would agree with the Random House Unabridged definition: "a person who practices the occupation or profession of journalism."
People may or may not think of Luke as a good journalist but that doesn't change things.
Without getting picky, websters dictionary defines journalist as "one who writes for a newspaper or periodical"
But either way , any journalist at least attempts to verify facts.
journalism, according to websters is "the writing and editing of NEWS items. Luke is a gossip columnist first and a sometimes journalist.
One measure of journalism would be if Luke has ever printend a retraction of anything that later turned out to be not true, like when he "reported" that a second generation male on the q-list last year was positive. After that proved to be false, there was never a retraction. A journalist would surely have set the record straight. Or was that gene ross who reported that. If it wasnt you luke, i apologize. Or did you just reprint the story from another site, without checking the facts.
But we love luke for what he is, an entertainer. And he is good at that.
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#111120 - 07/17/05 06:10 PM
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A journalist is someone with a degree in journalism.
No. You won't find that definition anywhere. Virtually everyone would agree with the Random House Unabridged definition: "a person who practices the occupation or profession of journalism."
People may or may not think of Luke as a good journalist but that doesn't change things.
Without getting picky, websters dictionary defines journalist as "one who writes for a newspaper or periodical"
But either way , any journalist at least attempts to verify facts.
journalism, according to websters is "the writing and editing of NEWS items. Luke is a gossip columnist first and a sometimes journalist.
One measure of journalism would be if Luke has ever printend a retraction of anything that later turned out to be not true, like when he "reported" that a second generation male on the q-list last year was positive. After that proved to be false, there was never a retraction. A journalist would surely have set the record straight. Or was that gene ross who reported that. If it wasnt you luke, i apologize. Or did you just reprint the story from another site, without checking the facts.
But we love luke for what he is, an entertainer. And he is good at that.
No one asked for it but here is my opinion. Luke is a journalist. He is blurring the line between blogger and journalist admittedly but I've never seen him make up anything out of whole cloth. His niche and his forte, in my view, is printing his interviews verbatim, without editorializing and with a minimum of commentary. He lets the statements of his subjects speak for themselves. I don't recall anyone ever disputing an attributed quote he published, and if they did I feel sure he has the tape to back it up.
Helpme, I'm sorry you feel it necessary to resort to braggadocio and mudslinging to support your points. It seems to me that you could more easily do that by posting links to websites that publish your stats. In this case I'm not disputing what you say but merely saying that you are arguing from the vantage point that we should all accept you as who you say you are.
Fuck none of us belive that. Jamesn isn't from Harvard or in Cambridge, Monkey didn't go to Africa, Slutwife is not someone's slut wife, Evil Klown is a clever poster, Smutmutant isn't an employee of AVN, I don't live in New fucking Jersey and Malice isn't Simp and on and on.
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#111121 - 07/18/05 04:24 PM
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This was not me. I always make a swift retraction whenever I am notified of a mistake. You must not have read me long. "One measure of journalism would be if Luke has ever printend a retraction of anything that later turned out to be not true, like when he "reported" that a second generation male on the q-list last year was positive. After that proved to be false, there was never a retraction. A journalist would surely have set the record straight. Or was that gene ross who reported that. If it wasnt you luke, i apologize. Or did you just reprint the story from another site, without checking the facts." That was not me. AVN's Scott Ross did a similar mistake to that last Spring causing newspapers around the world to wrongly report a porner who was negative as HIV positive. More info here: http://www.adultbeat.com/
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#111122 - 07/18/05 04:28 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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http://www.lukeford.net/Images/photos/nytimes.jpgFrom page two of the 11/14/03 edition of NYT: "Editors' Note: An article in Business Day on Tuesday reported on a federal inquiry into suspected illegal wiretapping by a private investigator in Hollywood, Anthony Pellicano. The article incorporated a paragraph about an incident in which Mr. Pellicano recovered the body of Elizabeth Taylor's third husband, Mike Todd, which had been removed from its grave at a Chicago cemetery. That paragraph was reproduced nearly verbatim from a Weblog compiled by a Los Angeles journalist, Luke Ford, who adapted it from a passage in the 2000 book "Dish," by Jeannette Walls. In February 1994, a similar account appeared in Los Angeles magazine. The Times should have credited the Weblog for its version." http://www.lukeford.net/luke_ford/clips/clips4.htm
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#111123 - 07/18/05 04:30 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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I was talking to two of the leading establishment porn journalists last night. They both estimated the number of performers in a given month in the San Fernando Valley to be about 500.
I neither accept nor reject AIM's number of 1000. I'm agnostic.
I understand there will be about 8,000 original porn movies released this year.
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#111125 - 07/18/05 05:44 PM
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Porn Jesus
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I was talking to two of the leading establishment porn journalists last night.
out of curiosity, who were they?
who do you consider journalist, porn wise?
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#111126 - 07/21/05 09:19 AM
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out of curiosity, who were they?
who do you consider journalist, porn wise?
Very good question.
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