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Selena Silver: Wankus/KSEX Fired Me On My Birthday
I have spent nearly eighteen months in this business building a reputation - with both industry insiders and porn fans. A reputation as a girl who is a total professional. I am counting on that reputation now. I KNOW that people will believe me.
I also believe that even in the porn industry or, as a woman I respect very much put it - ESPECIALLY in the porn industry you have to be willing to take a moral stand. No matter what that costs you - if you are involved in something that is wrong you must be willing to raise your hand up and say "this is wrong". I did just that - and doing that got me fired from KSEX.
According to the tersely worded email [that's right, Wankus didn't fire me face to face or even over the phone - he did it through an email 5 hours and 35 minutes before the show that more effort had gone into than any show we had ever done was scheduled to begin (we had to cancel 12 guests!)], the firing is due to "creative and business differences". Wankus Email #1 (August 18, 2004)
I wonder what those differences could be?
I know what those differences are not.
Those differences are not a problem of reliability or work ethic. I know that I showed up and did a new show every single week for my first 24 weeks in a row- that is a long time in porn valley! Those differences aren't a problem of my lack of promotion or support of KSEX. Not even KSEX themselves worked the web as hard as I did to drive listeners to the station or to join their website. Those differences aren't the ratings of the show...week in and week out over time the only show that had more listeners than ours was Wankus' Wednesday night show - the one that followed ours. And no show had more "unique listeners" (people who only logged in only to hear our show and didn't listen to another show); in fact, we had 2-3 times as many unique listeners as any other show). Wankus Weekly Statistics Emails
Those differences also weren't the quality or direction of the show. The very day these "differences" began Wankus was trying very hard to move us to Mondays so he could expand our show to two hours. Wankus Email #2 (August 3, 2004)
He bragged about our show.
I know by now many of you are confused.
I know what you are thinking... you are thinking if you have had someone who shows up every single week and puts on high quality shows that pulls more unique listeners than any other show on your station and tirelessly promotes joining your membership website... why would you want to get rid of them? Right?
Well, are you ready? Here is why Wankus and KSEX made that decision. Because, I dared to say that Wankus and KSEX were wrong.
About what?
I believe that if you want to use the brand name and naked body of a porn star to make a profit for yourself, you should pay her. Wankus and KSEX do not. Wankus Email #3 (August 6, 2004)
That is the "creative and business differences" between us.
THE TRUTH ABOUT THE KSEX GAMES
It all began with the filming of the KSEX Games
When Wankus approached me about the KSEX Games and asked me to participate he told me it was - and I am going to quote - "a family picnic for fun and promotion". I didn't even know there was any filming going on at all. This happened to other people as well. There is a very well-known agent who had girls booked for the event who was shocked to hear there was filming. He hadn t been told that when his girls were booked either. According to Javier C., owner along with Alex Ladd of DVSX, one of the movie companies that participated in the event, he was also told this was a fun and publicity event. He also had no idea that Wankus, KSEX, ADE, and Adam & Eve were profiting from the event.
Wankus first got girls (like me) to agree to participate by telling them it was just for publicity . But, he knew he would have to get them to sign model releases to be able to sell the footage of their naked bodies & so &
Next, I was told - by Wankus - that they were going to film it, but only so they could stream it on KSEX like a KSEX show. I paused for a second because it was different than what I was told, but I thought... it is for KSEX...okay. Wankus even went out of his way to tell me there would be NO DVD made of the event. Maybe if a lot of people watch this one, next year we can film one and sell it on DVD, he said.
Was that true?
No. It wasn't. Why would he go out of his way to tell me there was no DVD ?
I think it was because he didn t want anyone to know he was making a regular for profit porn movie if anyone found out, they would want to be paid!
I feel bad for AdultDVDEmpire, the KSEX partner in the event they were very honest in their promotion (unfortunately, which began AFTER the filming was completed). They said, we are going to charge you to watch this on the web or we are going to sell you a DVD of it. No games. No bullshit. No bush league "do it for the publicity" crap. Just an honest - we are making and selling a for-profit adult DVD.
For the record, I am a member of AdultDVDEmpire.com and have purchased several movies from them (yes, really!). I think the world of them. I don t have any evidence that they attempted to mislead anyone at all and I hope that they are not lumped in with KSEX in this indictment. I also hope when they read how KSEX handled things, they will put some pressure themselves on KSEX to make things right.
Why was Wankus and KSEX not honest and upfront with female talent before the filming of the "KSEX Games" movie? Because they didn't have any money to pay them. So they lied. And, Wankus - who called me friend - lied to my face so he could use my name and naked body along with all the other porn stars to put money in his pocket without having to pay me.
The bottom line? The KSEX Games is just like any other porn movie project. It is made for profit and available for sale on VOD and soon to be DVD. According to Wankus, KSEX and ADE are splitting the money from the VOD and Adam & Eve is handling the distribution of the DVD. Why wouldn t the girls get paid just like they do when they appear in a Jules Jordan movie from Evil Angel or an Alex Ladd movie from DVSX?
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NOTE: On their own, the movie company PRIVATE did pay all of their 7 girls a $500 day rate (a fair industry rate) for their appearance in the movie. KUDOS TO PRIVATE. The rumor is that Private is handling the international distribution of the DVD. If that is true it would explain why they would spend $3500 on the event and then I applaud their honesty in paying their girls a fair rate to appear in a project they are profiting from. If it is not true and they spent the $3500 only to pay girls a fair rate for doing PR for them I applaud them even more.
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THE KSEX GAMES STORY UNFOLDS
Here are the conflicting versions offered up by Wankus & KSEX about the Games:
This is NOT for profit:
This isn t some BIG MOTHER COMPANY coming into town to take advantage of everyone and become rich of their name and images. This was a comradery [sic] builder. This was a family picnic . This was a lets see if we can make this work and get some great press for all involved kind of thing . Wankus Email #5 (August 5, 2004 )
The sole purpose of KSEXgames was to get some good promo and press for us and all the participants, not to make money on it. Seriously. Wankus Email #4 (August 4, 2004)
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The VOD version will be released first, and then this fall we will release a DVD with the entire event, including extra footage, behind the scenes, interviews, etc. Empire Man, AdultDVDEmpire AdultDVDTalk.com Thread #42209
[ It is very interesting that for profit porn companies would spend thousands of dollars to organize, film, edit, and release a VOD movie and a DVD with zero intention of profiting on the event. Perhaps the VOD movie and DVD were supposed to be given away at no cost to the fans so it really was just a great press family picnic ?]
We don t have any money to pay the girls:
This is not a high budget company where we can dish out thousands of dollars for events. We do everything on a low budget and are hoping on a return . - Wankus Email #4 August 4, 2004
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On his KSEX show,
www.ksexradio.com, Wednesday night, Wankus said that the Coliseum had been seriously considered as a venue for last Saturday s Porn Olympics. A $10,000 consideration actually, because that s how much it would have cost to retain it as a venue. And it was booked, according to Wankus. However, the money wasn t a deal breaker as much as the fact that conditions of the agreement set by L.A. City Council would have pre-empted using any of the familiar L.A. Coliseum landmarks as backdrop. AdultFYI.com article ID# 5151 (August 5, 2004)
[ Hmm &we can spend $10,000 on the venue and not pay the girls a fee? I am not following either the budget (the movie ended up being filmed in a back yard of a private home) or the rationale here. It is the girl s brand names and naked bodies making KSEX money, not the venue the movie was filmed in. But, I guess this is proof that KSEX had the budget to make this movie.
Beyond that, Wankus & KSEX decided to pay Wankus a fee for producing the movie, they payed their tech crew and cameraman, they paid Quaserman & Ginger Lynn to provide the play by play , they paid Michelle Lay and Katie Morgan to do sideline interviews , and they paid Guy Capo to edit the movie. They paid everyone from KSEX just none of the actual female talent in the movie. Wankus Email #5 (August 5, 2004)
Why would they pay their own KSEX staff (and Wankus himself) if it was just a family picnic for fun and promotion ?]
It isn t our fault the girls didn t get paid; it is ADE and the movie companies fault:
AdultDVDempire.com came to us with idea for a show that featured girls doing Olympic style events in conjunction with the summer games. I said to them, hey &if you re gonna do it, do it right.
ADE has a relationship with all the movie companies and they said they would contact them and see if they could get competitors to be in the event. It was agreed that if the movie companies scored the talent to be in the events, it was up to THEM to pay the girls or give them their own incentives to be on their team. KSEX did not provide any of the talent. The movie companies did.
Basically, this is their event. [Emphasis added is mine.] Wankus Email #4 (August 4, 2004)
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KSEX was the creative force behind the whole thing , Wankus said, we came up with the contests, organized the events from chalking the fields, placing the cones, bringing up the emcees to making signs, creating detailed RULES handbooks and scoring the awesome venue we used . AdultFYI.com Article #5436 (August 19, 2004)
[ Javier C, co-owner of DVSX (a major KSEX advertiser by the way) denies that Wankus and KSEX explained the event to them. He denies that DVSX is making ANY money from the event. He states that he was told it was just for press and promotion as well. When the truth about the event was explained to him, he immediately put in several phone calls to Wankus to get an explanation since he didn t understand why KSEX, ADE, and Adam & Eve would be profiting by the use of the DVSX brand name and trademark and DVSX wasn t. At press time of this release, Wankus had still not returned any of Javier C s phone calls.
Javier explicitly states that ANY time DVSX makes a movie and profits from it, they pay their talent. Javier states he was never offered an opportunity to buy the DVD at wholesale and sell it at retail like Wankus promises that he was (which just sounds like a way for Wankus to make more money). Javier pointed out the total lack of logic in that promise if Private, Adam & Eve, DVSX, Red Light District, and Wicked all tried to sell the DVD to their distributors, they would be selling to the same exact distributors. They all sell to the same people! The only people making money would be KSEX.
As far as the awesome venue the event was filmed in a backyard of a private home with only 1 toilet for 80 + people. That toilet ended up breaking halfway through the event and I personally secured a bucket of water that could be used to manually flush the toilet the rest of the day. The girls were there in the hot sun for about 7 hours, and there was some water provided (they ran out) and some snacks.]
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Wankus states that If you don t like the fact that some girls didn t get paid to have a day of fun and great press [Emphasis mine], then your anger should be at the movie companies, NOT KSEX . Wankus Email #5 (August 5, 2004)
Why would the movie companies pay the girls to appear in a KSEX movie when KSEX wasn t even sharing the profits with the movie companies?
The only people we know for a fact are profiting are KSEX and ADE. We are told by a source very close to Adam & Eve that Adam & Eve is handling the DVD distribution and is expecting to make a killing on it. (If and when that becomes guaranteed fact, I will upgrade the strength in that comment). Shouldn t the only people profiting on the event be the ones to pay the people they are exploiting? Not the movie companies who are also being exploited?
Wankus states that I thought you knew the KSEX philosophy . Wankus Email #5 (August 5, 2004).
Yes, I do. Wankus comes from an internet sex radio show background. In radio, people make appearances unpaid in exchange for promotion. Clearly, Wankus & KSEX haven t grasped that making a for-profit VOD movie and DVD is NOT a for promotion event and they won t be able to get away with that in the porn world. If you make a movie, you have to pay your girls.
When Jules Jordan of Evil Angel asked on the AdultDVDTalk.com thread what do the girls make from all this? , Wankus got very upset. In fact, his reply to me was:
The problem in any career field, but more obviously in the porn world, is once a very closed minded moron [Emphasis mine] throws out a comment, that comment builds unwarranted animosity . Wankus Email #5 (August 5, 2004)
So Jules Jordan is a moron because he thinks girls should get paid for appearing in porn movies?
If Jules Jordan or Joey Silvera of Evil Angel books you for a movie you will get paid.
If Alex Ladd or Guy Capo of DVSX books you for a movie you will get paid.
If Brandon Iron or Michael Stefano of Platinum X Pictures books you for a movie you will get paid.
If Wankus and KSEX tell you that they have an event where you will get great promotion , know that they really mean they will make money off of your naked body and your brand name but they won t share the money with you.
THE TRUTH ABOUT WANKUS, KSEX, & MONEY
Jules Jordan specifically asked about the following KSEX events: - (AdultDVDTalk.com Thread # 42209)
Porn Star Karaoke
Wankus replied: The club makes the money. That s it. We go just to have fun .
It is true that KSEX doesn t make money from PSK. Wankus forgot to mention that he was personally getting a nightly promotion fee and free drinks to keep bringing the porn crowd in.
KSEXRadio
Wankus replied: Our hosts get paid, we get membership and advertising money. The fans get paid in great entertainment, the guests get paid in good promo.
KSEX hosts are promised a $20 per hour fee (all but 2 non-Wankus hosts have 1 hour shows). I don t personally know anyone who has actually received the fee. I am submitting an invoice tomorrow (August 27) for the 26 shows we did ($1,040 owed). I will report back on whether we actually get paid that money or not.
Do the guests really get great promotion ? That depends on how big an audience you need to believe you got great promotion. Less than half of the shows on KSEX get 1,000 or more people to listen to their show. The bottom shows get just a few hundred people. Even Wankus s own shows only get between 1,000 and 2,000 a night on the best night. If you are content with getting naked on camera or having sex on camera to influence just 1,000 people then you are getting great promotion . If you thought that there were 100,000 people listening & no, there aren t. Wankus says that about 30% of the listeners have paid for memberships and are watching the live video and that 70% are just listening to the free radio feed. So if there are only 900 people listening to the show you are appearing on less than 300 people are seeing your naked breasts.
Personally, I found that I was bringing more people to KSEX from my ADT participation, my website, and my Yahoo Group than KSEX was bringing back to my website or to my Yahoo Group.
I loved doing my show because I had a chance to connect with the people that were loyal to me as porn fans, not because I was getting great promotion . Every single bit of promotion I got from my KSEX show came because I religiously press released to all the adult sites almost every single week. If you don t religiously promote yourself, your KSEX show will be one with a few hundred listening and you won t end up with an effective promotion.
I did my show for the Silent Jays, the bono-Ones, the Skronkers, the Harri Patels, the Firechases, the Young Burts &. the people that showed up every single week and the people that then on their own would promote me in other arenas. I will miss hanging with those people every Wednesday night a lot but, I will make up for it in my forum, the ADT forum, and the ADT chat Wednesday night.
I also did my show so I could give back (even if it was only in a little way) to the directors and companies that booked me for movies and promoted my name. If I could talk about a director s movie or a company and that company just got 1 extra order than I had done something.
The reason I felt great about my guests appearing on my show? Because I sent out press releases to all the adult websites which included my girls pics, website links, etc. I averaged over 10,000 reads on my own website of each KSEX show (with the top ones being read over 25,000 times!). I knew that my girls were getting website hits.
Here is what you don t know about appearing on KSEX:
KSEX makes money by charging advertisers money to advertise and by members joining its site. Fair enough, but, there are also other arrangements I found out about that made me very uneasy &
We had photographers that kept showing up to our show uninvited by us and taking hundreds of photos of our girls in action. At first we thought that they were taking pictures for KSEX, but then none of those pics ever showed up on KSEX. What we found out was that those photographers sell those photos to magazines like Oui, Cheri, etc. They are making money by taking pictures of the girls without paying the girls. Every other photographer has to book a girl for a photo shoot and pay her rate to submit her pictures to magazines but, not at KSEX.
KSEX also is selling their content. According to Wankus, KSEX itself doesn t make any money. It has lost money all 4 years it has been in business. According to Wankus, it is the KSEX content company that keeps it in business. I don t know what the content company sells. I do know that the KSEX shows right now are airing on Asian satellite. KSEX invested in a new T-1 to get higher quality streaming to allow that deal to go through and hope it will be very profitable so they can invest in better equipment, higher pay for staff, etc. Someone (are you reading this Luke Ford this one is made for you) should investigate exactly how many places KSEX content is showing up.
If you are a porn star considering appearing on KSEX, you should know the following:
a) your audience reach will be between a couple hundred and approximately 1,500 people depending on the show and the night;
b) if the photographers are shooting your pictures, they will be sold to adult magazines and you will not be reimbursed (apparently the KSEX appearance model release is all the photographer needs to sell them);
c) your footage may be sold to everyone from satellite companies to websites without your being reimbursed.
If reaching a couple hundred people is worth that trade of your naked body and your sex acts, then by all means do it. If you are a little taken aback by how KSEX uses your appearance without telling you then don t go on a KSEX show.
These are all things that we weren t told even when we started doing our show. These are things that we found out as time went on.
If KSEX was just a true radio station like the Howard Stern show we would have no problem with the trade of free content for air promotion. I didn t get paid for my appearance on the Howard Stern show (although I did win $10,000!), but I knew that 8.5 million people listened to it. I knew that the Stern show was NOT selling my photos and video footage to magazines and satellite companies around the world. It was honest radio. There is a lot KSEX won t tell you about how they intend to make money off you.
Now & they think they can profit off your brand name and naked body in regular porn DVD s without paying you. Want to help stop that?
KSEXGames
Wankus replied: adultdvdempire [sic] and ksex [sic] merged together to make a fun event that brings a lot of attention to the movie companies, talent and more. The movie companies are asked to submit their rosters and if they decide to pay their girls, that s up to them. The VOD and possible DVD from the footage shoot at this event will be split with ADE and ksex [sic] and will hopefully cover the large expense we paid to make it a hot event. If it does do well and got to DVD, the movie companies will be able to buy the production wholesale and sell it for their own profits.
I am not sure if you will be able to keep up with Wankus s new porn philosophy here, Jules. I will try to translate for you. *smile*
Wankus is saying that making a for-profit porn DVD is just a fun event . Maybe in the future, you could call your movies fun events and not have to pay the girls. I mean, if she has an orgasm - why should she get paid! She is having fun! And, her name is on the box so she is getting great promotion . Hell & I think the whole porn industry is wrong and Wankus & KSEX is right! NO MORE PAYING GIRLS! If they have fun at the shoot and they get promotion , you don t have to pay them!!!! New porn paradigm thanks to Wankus & KSEX!!! Oh, but, make sure you make the filming of your movie a hot event that way the profits can cover your expenses in making it one.
Second, Jules, Wankus is saying that the movie companies who participated in the event and who were RESPONSIBLE to pay the talent can buy the movie at wholesale and sell it for a profit. So & the company who bore the expense of the movie should still have to buy it? I see & I guess, Jules in the new porn paradigm if you pay to shoot a movie you still have to buy it from Evil Angel at wholesale to be able to sell it at retail. That sounds fair to me. Of course, I am ignoring that movie companies don t sell movies at retail they sell them at WHOLESALE to the 5 major distributors who sell them to the online and the brick and mortar stores who sell them at retail, but let s not confuse facts with smoke screens! Let s ignore Javier C s comment that all 5 movie companies sell to the same exact distributors. Let s ignore that the movie companies apparently were responsible to pay the talent. Let s just focus on the new way of doing business in porn valley you pay for the movie and then pay KSEX a wholesale rate to sell the movie to the same distributors everyone else is.
KSEX DVD S
Wankus replies: The girls get paid their rate to perform in them .
I love how he confidently ignores that the KSEX Games IS A PORN DVD!!! The first project KSEX shot on their own was Sexual Frequency . Despite an A-List cast, that movie has still not been released. It was scheduled for release several months ago. According to Wankus, when he saw the finished project he was very unhappy with it. I don t know if they are still re-working it or if has been thrown in the garbage. I do know Wankus has stopped replying to questions on the KSEX forums asking about it.
Bottom line the KSEX Games IS a porn DVD and Wankus and KSEX did NOT pay the talent in the movie. And, unless public pressure is brought on Wankus & KSEX, they will continue to use the 80 s porn line on girls do it for the promotion, baby . Again, Wankus & KSEX are already planning the Tahoe Winter Games. Can you write them and tell them you will NOT support them unless they pay the girls?
SO WHY DID WANKUS FIRE SELENA SILVER FROM KSEX?
Wednesday, August 4th, Kent and Wankus were talking before our 6pm show. Right before the show began, Wankus made some direct comments about the KSEX games that Kent unwillingly had to respond to. We had planned on having a private and professional conversation with Wankus about our feelings about the Games. We fully intended on still being a part of the KSEX family; we just wanted to help Wankus see the difference between doing radio and making porn movies and hoped to see him do the right thing.
Wankus caught that something was wrong from Kent s comments, and said well, this may be a bad time to bring this up but, all KSEX hosts are required to spend 5 minutes on their show promoting the KSEX Games .
That in itself is interesting. If KSEX hosts are employees, KSEX has the right to require them to do specific things. If KSEX hosts are independent contractors, KSEX does NOT have the right to require them to do specific things. Obviously, KSEX takes the position that KSEX hosts are not employees otherwise, they would be open to a wrongful termination suit, right? Let s ignore that for a moment.
We did our show without promoting an event we believed exploited my fellow porn stars.
Wankus wrote us an email during the course of our show, which he gave us a print copy to read afterwards. That email was not a harsh or bad email. We didn t react to it badly. But, it was more of the lies &. He wrote us another email at midnight that night which we did take issue with. In it he berated us for not promoting the KSEX Games telling us that whether you like it or not, you have to do it. It still wasn t a relationship breaking email. He was still calling us friends and saying we were important to him (even though he had directly lied to us about the games so he didn t have to pay me).
But, then things began to go downhill &we replied via email on Thursday, August 5 and told him what we thought about the approach KSEX was taking. We didn t know at that point if they were just inexperienced and didn t know that making a porn DVD was different from doing a KSEX show or if they were people who didn t give a fuck about the female talent and were happy to exploit them. Wankus reply answered that question.
We said in our email that KSEX needed to pay the girls. We told Wankus that we would not promote the KSEX Games on our show if he did not pay the girls. We told Wankus that if he released the DVD without paying the girls, we would consider campaigning against people buying the DVD or the VOD.
Wankus reply the next day on Friday, August 6 was mean, childish, and dogmatic. We knew at that point he had no intention on paying girls and wasn t going to change. We also started seeing the Wankus that so many people had warned us about.
After this email, we had no desire to do any more KSEX shows. He had so manipulated and betrayed our friendship by lying to us and then by treating us like such shit that we just wanted out. But, then I read on ADT a post by Silent Jay promoting my next KSEX show and a couple of posts on my Yahoo Group about it and some more comments in my KSEX forum and I just started crying. I so didn t ever want to go back to KSEX, but I had built a family with porn fans that was bigger than just me. I had promoted a show and I was about to break my promise with my fans. I emailed Wankus and told him we were still doing the show.
He wanted to get together and talk, but the only time he had (a 30 minute slot before he flew to Miami) didn t work for us. We agreed to talk when he got back.
We did our August 11th show and never mentioned or hinted at the problem we had with KSEX. I had done my August 4th SelenaSilver.com monthly chat and never hinted at it. We were handling this professionally (even as Wankus emails became more childish). I guess our August 11th show must have been good the emails I got from listeners said that it was the replay they used on August 18th the day I was fired by Wankus & KSEX.
On August 18th my birthday at 12:24pm PST we received an email from Wankus stating that they were terminating the Wednesday night, 6:00pm show, The Inside View, effective immediately. If you have guests scheduled for your show tonight, please cancel them. - Wankus Email #1 (August 18, 2004)
(Over the next 5 ½ hours before the show began, we scrambled to cancel the 12 guests Kent had booked for my birthday show that very day.)
Wankus never called us on the phone to discuss this.
Wankus never met with us face to face to discuss this.
He traded a couple emails with us and then fired us.
He fired us - both people he called his friends AND his top rated show after his - because he made a porn movie without paying the female talent and we called him on that and said he should.
There is nothing more to it. And, there is nothing less to it.
I leave you to make your own conclusions about Wankus and KSEX from that.
You know what is really sad? If Wankus had been at all remorseful in his emails back and had hinted at a solution we would still be on KSEX, I would not be writing this, and the girls would probably end up with something positive. It was his responses alone that led to this impossible to repair situation.
WHAT SHOULD YOU DO ABOUT KSEX?
I Selena Silver am calling for a boycott of KSEX and its associated products.
Everyone makes mistakes, and even though I am sure that Wankus & KSEX won t change on their own I am willing to let public pressure change them. If they a) apologize, b) make sure all the girls in the DVD were paid, c) disclose all their money making schemes (like selling the girls pictures from the show for profit to magazines) so girls know up front what they are getting into, and d) always pay the girls in the future when they make porn movies we should let them back into the porn fan world if you as porn fans want to let them back.
But, until then, I am asking that you do the following:
1. Do not buy the KSEX Games VOD or DVD if you do, you are stating that you do not care if girls are exploited in this industry.
2. Do not join the KSEXradio.com membership site and/or cancel your membership to KSEXradio.com if you have one if you are a member of that site, you are supporting the people that made the KSEX Games and you are telling them directly that you don t care if they exploit the talent in this industry.
3. Do not listen to the free broadcast of KSEX they make most of their money from their advertisers. If you listen even for free you are logged as a listener that they base their advertising rates on. You can t listen or you are directly helping them.
4. If you are an advertiser of KSEX immediately cancel your advertising. I am sure you don t want to be known as a supporter of a company that exploits young girls and I am hoping you are going to get a lot of emails from fans telling you that they will not buy your products if you continue advertising with KSEX. How much business are you really getting from them anyway?
5. Write to all KSEX advertisers (I will be adding a list shortly to this post) and tell them you will never buy their products as long as they advertise on KSEX. Then BUY products from anyone who cancels their advertising. Seriously. Report back in this thread when you have done so.
6. Write to AdultDVDEmpire.com people who are probably blameless in this and encourage them strongly to put pressure on KSEX to do the right thing and pay the girls they are trying to make money from.
7. Write to Wankus (wankus@ksexradio.com) and Chris and Allison the real owners of KSEX (chris@ksexradio.com &
allison@ksexcash.com ) and tell them what you REALLY THINK about how they treating porn girls and the actions you are taking.
8. Write to the 5 companies involved Private, Wicked, DVSX, Red Light District, and Adam & Eve - tell them what you think about the KSEX Games and ask them to put pressure on Wankus & KSEX.
9. Write to every single adult and mainstream news website and agency that you can find; post on every adult and mainstream message board that you can find. Build an overwhelming awareness of KSEX s intention to exploit young naked girls for their own profit.
10. Buy a Jules Jordan DVD. Jules was the only industry person that stood up and questioned Wankus about what KSEX was doing (and that made Wankus really, really mad!). Reward the people who stand up for what is right. Jules stood up for what? Reward him by buying a Jules Jordan DVD ASAP and email him and tell him you did just because of what he did.
ABOVE ALL DON T JUST READ THIS THREAD AND MOVE ONE. RESPOND. REPLY. ADD YOUR THOUGHTS. REPLY HERE. REPLY ON THE KSEX FORUM. TELL PEOPLE WHAT YOU THINK. TAKE A STAND.
MY MONEY WHERE MY MOUTH IS
I will personally send a FREE porn DVD to every single person (in the United States) who can prove that they cancelled a KSEXradio.com membership. I will send a FREE porn DVD to anyone outside of the United States who can prove they cancelled a KSEXradio.com membership if they will pay shipping on the DVD.
-TO The Fans
You may never listen to KSEX then this won t be hard for you. You might be addicted to KSEX - then this will. But, if you listen to KSEX you support people who exploit female porn stars. If you stop listening and are vocal to them about your thoughts & they will change. And, when they change you can go back to listening. Come on!!! Take a stand for the female talent in this business. Without them there is no porn. Do NOT listen and email them to tell them what you think about them.
-To The Porn Stars & Directors
Think before you blindly appear on KSEX. Know upfront that only 100-2000 people (MAX) are listening. Know upfront your pictures might be sold to adult magazines, your video to porn sites around the world; for sure your video can be archived in the KSEX membership site to make them money over and over and over &. Know upfront that this is a company that made a porn DVD and refused to pay the female talent in it. Know that they lied to talent (me!) to appear. Know that they are not remorseful and are instead planning on doing it again (Wankus is already promoting the Winter Games ). Cancel your scheduled appearances. Tell Wankus you will not appear on his KSEX and make him money until he pays the girls whose naked bodies he exploited in his porn DVD The KSEX Games to line his own pockets with cash.
-To the Porn Companies
Know that KSEX is your competitor. They are not only trying to sign up porn website customers to their site, they are taking dollars away from your pockets. People spend their money at KSEX instead of on your DVD s. Now they are making DVD s too! DVD s that will directly compete with yours except they aren t paying the talent. Is reaching 500 people on their show (mostly their loyal fans anyway!) worth helping give content to a company that is in direct competition with you?
-To the KSEX Advertisers
Cancel. You are financially supporting a company that is exploiting the female talent in this business. Is that what you want to be known for? What is the real return you are getting from KSEX? I have personally heard Wankus making fun of advertisers who call him saying I am not seeing a return! . He laughed to me as he related how he told them it is radio you don t see an immediate return; it is brand awareness over time . Are you making more from direct sales from KSEX advertising than you are spending? Cancel. Demand your money back. Then press release on ADT and every adult site that you canceled your advertising to take a stand against a company that refused to pay its talent. The good porn fans around the world will respond and drive business too you. Read the comments that come after my post in this thread carefully.
-A Special Message to ADT ers.
Make ADT an unfriendly place for a KSEX poster. ADT has long been a place where porn directors, studios, and stars can come because they are respected here. They are treated right here. They are safe here.
Don t let ADT become a place where people who are known to exploit female talent are welcome. YOU own this place. I trust you to use your judgment and your power they way I KNOW you will.
I love this place &
-To KSEX Hosts
I know most of you; I love many of you. This isn't to hurt you; this is too help you. Maybe YOU need to help the female talent in this business too.
If you are currently running a show on KSEX, I would ask that you suspend your show until KSEX has made it right to the females it exploited in the KSEX Games. Tell Wankus you will not do your show again until this is resolved.
If enough people stand up for what is right - right triumps over wrong.
God, I love many of you...
MY APOLOGISE FOR HOW LONG IT TOOK FOR ME TO REPLY TO THIS
I read many emails and some posts on the KSEX forum, ADT, my Yahoo Group, and my SelenaSilver.com forum asking for the truth about what happened to my show. I am sorry I couldn t post earlier. I was on vacation for 2 weeks (my family was here from Australia) and I wasn t able to post. It truly was bad timing.
I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your support. I appreciate you, I value you, I love you. Without porn fans there are no porn stars.
I didn t want to leave you hanging. I would never have stopped my show without telling you. Wankus didn t allow me to say goodbye.
The first fight we ever had with Wankus was about an issue very related to this. We had promoted for a couple of weeks our April 14 show it was supposed to be Inside a Porn Shoot . Victoria Givens was the guest and we were going to shoot a girl/girl scene live on the air. That was the week the HIV crisis broke and we couldn t in good conscious do a porn shoot that week! We post-poned our show until May 19. We told our fans what we were doing up front and instead did a show about HIV and the porn industry.
We got a VERY stern (okay & very mean) email from Wankus ordering us to never ever tell fans again what we didn t have. He got quite childish in that exchange. (That should have been our first clue!)
We don t agree with him at all. We think honesty is the best policy. He thinks if you promote something all week to fans and you know it isn t going to happen that you shouldn t tell them. Get them to tune in anyway they might stay if you are interesting, he says. If you tell them that you don t have what you promised them, they might not come. Wankus, we think you should tell fans the truth. Don t lie to them just because you are desperate and afraid they won t tune in. Trust them more and don t insult their intelligence like that.
I got an email from a listener who said that HDalhmer posted in the KSEX Forum during the August 18th replay show the one I promoted as my B-Day show and asked why was it a replay? Why were all the stickies gone in my forum? I was told that Wankus just DELETED that post.
Wankus lies to fans like he lies to porn girls.
He said in the other thread that there are no good bye shows on radio . What a load of shit. It you did a really well promoted good bye show, your ratings go through the roof. Why are the highest rated shows on TV shows always the all-time finales??? All mainstream radio & TV shows promote the last show. They all say good-bye. Wankus doesn t like good-bye shows because he never says good-bye without bitterness and anger.
I received several emails from Europeans who said they stayed up until the wee hours of the morning to hear my August 18th B-Day show and were quite upset it was a replay instead. For that, I am truly sorry it wasn t my choice.
I am truly sorry I never got to say goodbye to you. Thank you for supporting me. Thank you for listening every week.
And, thank you in advance for the action I know you will take now.
Sincerely,
Selena Silver
P.S. THE GIRLS OF THE KSEX GAMES
Please support the following girls who were taken advantage of by KSEX they weren t paid for their appearance in the porn DVD made by KSEX (except for the PRIVATE team and probably the WICKED team). You can do that by a) joining their website, b) buying DVD s starring them, and c) booking them if you are a porn director/studio.
 Rene Pornero
 Aria
 Gauge
 Gen Pedova
 Selena Silver
 Alana Evans
 Kitty
 Victoria Givens
 Daisy Marie
 Anita Blue
 Brittney Skye
 Kira Eggers
 Chrissy Taylor
 Victoria Sin
 Tianna Lynn
 Sativa Rose
 Rayveness
 Ashley Haze
 Jessica Drake - Wicked
 Kaylani Lei - Wicked
 Julia Ann - Wicked
 Cytheria - Wicked
 Olivia O Lovely - Wicked
 Katja Kassin - Paid
 Ariana Jolle - Paid
 Ashley Long Paid
 Avy Scott Paid
 Layla Jade Paid
 Tyla Wynn Paid
& Avena 
Isn’t he nice? But Ksex is a REAL job, and you have to turn in a timecard... Say it with me TIMECARD, wasn’t that fun.
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