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#384689 - 12/29/08 03:22 PM
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what'z "mainstream" means?? hollywood'?
her' dvd'z aren't selling? she shoul'd be hire top'h talent like cristian three ex and tone capon'e
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#384690 - 12/29/08 03:24 PM
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#384694 - 12/30/08 06:00 AM
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I'd much rather a mainstream to porn incident would happen. Say Sharon Stone loses her mainstream appeal and starts doing MILF dp vids. Now that would be entertaiment. I have no desire whatsoever for any pw to go mainstream. Destroys their appeal to me.
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#384695 - 12/30/08 07:16 AM
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Human Garbage
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she is the most successful mainstream porn person in decades
You've got to be kidding? You've never heard of Traci Lords or Ginger Lynn? Traci Lords won a best actress award for her movie Chump Change, had a top selling techno album where her songs were featured in movies and commercials, was up for the role Sharon Stone had in Casino, was a Guess Jeans model, and worked along side many of the biggest actors in Hollywood. I don't know why so many in porn look down on Traci. It's because of her that the Sasha Grey's of porn can get their foot in the door in mainstream Hollywood. She's been a successful working mainstream actress for 22 years.
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#384697 - 12/30/08 08:11 AM
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Sasha Grey has broken through to the mainstream. Between a Steven Soderbergh movie, another Hollywood film (starring role) after that, American Apparel ads she is the most successful mainstream porn person in decades. She may not be household name now, but will be once the Soderbergh flick is released.
I agree. I'd say that based on the Soderbergh project alone she has now trumped all other crossover claimants and leaves them in the dust.
Traci Lords' role in "Cry Baby" was indie underground, particularly at the time though it looks influential now, and that's about as close as anyone else has come. In my opinion, crossover status should be based on actual major JOBS rather than the highly dubious "name recognition" factor, which leaves the other claimants with some film/tv roles as extras (read "streetwalkers") and their marriages to minor celebrities.
BTW, Traci's award was an HBO/Comedy Arts Festival award. While still an award, no one really knows or cares what it is. Her 1000 Fires cd was critically acclaimed, but didn't sell all that well. Andrea True was the first crossover disco star anyway, and she had legitimate hits, along with a porn career that lasted as long as Traci's.
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#384698 - 12/30/08 08:16 AM
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Human Garbage
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I thought people in porn had some resentment towards traci lords because he set them up. She worked underage then went public with it after she turned 18 and shot one legal porn flick for a big payday while hanging out the people involved in her underage body of works to twist with the authorities. 
Set them up? She lied about her age but so did many back then and even today. She wasn't the first. She was just the most famous underage star.
She never went public. Porners say she went to the FBI herself. But what do you expect them to say? She says the FBI had a file on her for three years. She was in porn for three years! The FBI don't arrest anyone right away after finding out information. They sometimes take years. Many people knew she was underage. Her family for starters. And a few others.
The scandal broke after that one movie of hers was done after she turned 18. But many in porn think it was this grande scheme of hers so she can sell it. She did sell it but was suppose to get back the master copy after I think 5 years. She never got it back. She spent many years and about a million dollars going to court trying to get back that master copy so she says she could burn and put her past behind her.
Many theories have floated around as to who tipped off the FBI. Traci, her family, the stepfather who brought her into Jim South's studio when she was 14, the boys at school who brought a porn magazine to school and asked her (Nora) if Traci Lords is really her, a rival porn star, a rival porn company, or MAYBE it was just the FBI all along.
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#384699 - 12/30/08 08:22 AM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 07/07/08
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In my opinion, crossover status should be based on actual major JOBS rather than the highly dubious "name recognition" factor
22 years of mainstream work in Hollywood on television, feature films, and behind the camera like directing doesn't count? And there is so much to Traci Lords than just Cry Baby. You people obviously don't watch much television or movies, do you.
Jenna Jameson is more mainstream than Sasha. I do see Sasha as possibly achieving stardom in Hollywood. But it's just wait and see.
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#384700 - 12/30/08 08:36 AM
traci lords as director.
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 11/27/07
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I was only able to find one instance of Traci Lords being credited as "director" of anything:
"Sweet Pea" (2005)
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You people obviously don't watch much television or movies, do you.
What television station aired her 11 minute directing effort?
EDIT: You can supposedly watch "Sweet Pea" here if anyone is interested.
I couldn't get it to work but that is not unusual for me when trying to access US based video services (like watching NBC or South Park online).
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#384702 - 12/30/08 08:39 AM
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Someone's really going to break through and be both porn and mainstream one day. Might be her?
No.
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Sasha Grey has broken through to the mainstream. Between a Steven Soderbergh movie, another Hollywood film (starring role) after that, American Apparel ads she is the most successful mainstream porn person in decades. She may not be household name now, but will be once the Soderbergh flick is released.
I will wait for the reviews to come in before I jump on this bandwagon.
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#384704 - 12/30/08 09:02 AM
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Porn Jesus
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Andrea True was the first crossover disco star anyway, and she had legitimate hits, along with a porn career that lasted as long as Traci's.
Wow talkabout a throwback, More, More More. Good call. 
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#384705 - 12/30/08 09:11 AM
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#384707 - 12/30/08 09:53 AM
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Sex Slave Trader
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We are discussing a topic, Darrah, so it is fine.
I mentioned above that, in my opinion, "name recognition" means nothing. Ron Jeremy, albeit a known personality, has the same name recognition factor as a serial killer. Despite all the "porn crossover" hype, virtually no one has made it out of the porn industry. They're all still known as whores, former whores, man whores, and worse. And that's the truth.
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#384708 - 12/30/08 10:02 AM
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Porn Jesus
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This doesn't fit into this discussion in a major way but I still think it'll be amusing for those who don't already know. Ron Jeremy was in "Ghostbusters".
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#384709 - 12/30/08 10:04 AM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 07/07/08
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Despite all the "porn crossover" hype, virtually no one has made it out of the porn industry. They're all still known as whores, former whores, man whores, and worse. And that's the truth.
I've said in the past that I spent many years being active on many mainstream celebrity blogs and forums. Yes the porn stars that do make it on are called "whores" and they all have AIDS and worse things about Jenna Jameson's twins. She took down her Myspace pictures because of a couple Hollywood blogs were making fun of her and the twins. But the only porn star that gets treated nicely is Traci. Even when they announced she was pregnant, I was expecting the worst but the bloggers and even the comments section were 99% nice to Traci.
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#384710 - 12/30/08 11:30 AM
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Porn Jesus
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she is the most successful mainstream porn person in decades
You've got to be kidding? You've never heard of Traci Lords or Ginger Lynn?
Sure... Ginger Lynn is drinking her own piss on wankus tv, That is definitely mainstream 
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#384712 - 12/30/08 12:05 PM
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Sex Slave Trader
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My mom wouldn't know any of them. She only knows Paris Hilton. The only pornstars she even possibly knows the name of are Linda Lovelace and Marilyn Chambers. She isn't much of a porn person but she's seen "Deep Throat" and "Devil in Miss Jones"
Yeah, moms over 55 or 60 would generally only know Lovelace. And Chambers, if they can even recall the name. The younger moms would know many, many more, which is why we have more PWs today than ever. Yes, blame the moms. 
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Because she's considered an under-aged victim of the porn industry.
Bullseye!
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btw, I had no idea that the Andrea True of disco was the porn star. That is COOL!
She seems to have been cut from the same cloth as Robin Byrd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTsTIS-8III
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#384713 - 12/30/08 11:52 PM
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Katie Morgan was shooting an Indie down here in Palm Springs.
They even shot with Red ONE cameras.
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#384716 - 12/31/08 04:07 PM
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#384717 - 12/31/08 04:17 PM
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I have nothing against Katie or Sasha. I wish them the best in Hollywood and with all their new found fame. But you have to look at the past in your industry and give credit where credit is due. Traci Lords did a lot to make porn stars be accepted more in Hollywood. She took acting lessons, dance & vocal lessons and showed up on time and went to all the auditions. She said for years she got many call backs but quickly found out that many of those call backs were not real jobs and they just wanted to meet Traci Lords. But she still persisted. While the director of Jenna Jameson's movie Zombie Strippers said Jenna would not show up at all for readings, run-throughs, and rehearsals. She only showed up on the day of filming. Jenna is suppose to be the "Queen of Porn" but she is shining a bad light on porn stars who want to work in mainstream Hollywood. Here is the rest of what Wankus said: www.adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=30851 Here is the director of Zombie Strippers talking about Jenna. He praises her but he had to because he was promoting the DVD release: www.mrskin.com
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#384719 - 12/31/08 04:56 PM
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Traci Lords did a lot to make porn stars be accepted more in Hollywood.
No, SD. Every time Traci is anywhere they say, "She's the under-aged girl the porn industry abused." She helps no porn star. She's used an example of porn's worst.
There is no direct path from Traci to any porn person getting a mainstream chance.
More likely, Sasha owes more of her breaks to the likes of Jenna and, IMO, to Howard Stern and the internet mainstreaming porn. The price may be overcoming Jenna baggage. But, who knows? Little Sasha might create a bit of her own for the next flavor of the month to overcome.
I don't think I have ever heard Traci say the industry abused her. People before she got into porn, yes they abused her. But I have seen interviews with Traci saying no one ever put a gun to her head when she started doing porn. That she hated being poor, needed the money, was young, and was a drug addict. That's pretty much a large percentage of the women in porn today.
Unlike Jenna who does pity-party interviews and how she was forced to get implants and everything else that went wrong for her in porn. I saw this anti-porn Myspace page and they had a blog in it and it said how Jenna Jameson was the biggest spokesperson against porn. They took many quotes from her book and others from other interviews. But it was about 25 or so things Jenna had said and it's far worse than anything Traci Lords has ever said against porn. Sasha's two movies aren't even out yet and you guys think she's more mainstream than Traci who has a 22 year long mainstream Hollywood career. You're comparing Sasha's American Apparel ad while Traci was in a Guess Jeans print and national television campaign with actress Juliette Lewis. Guess Jeans trumps American Apparel any day.
As I said before, I have nothing against Sasha or Katie. But it's all you guys putting down Traci's accomplishments when she is by far the most successful former/porn star in Hollywood. The woman won an acting award and you guys think it's no big deal. A FORMER/PORN STAR won an ACTING award. Name anyone else who has?? She's had her songs featured in major motion pictures and television commercials. For fucks sake!!  What does a woman have to do around here to get noticed??
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#384720 - 12/31/08 05:11 PM
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Porn Jesus
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I think you might not be taking into account that if she does want to get noticed it isn't as a former under age porn star.
Her post-porn career has been cultivated in a way that does not draw attention to her porn past.
Also I think the fact that nearly all of her movies are illegal makes it difficult for most folks to equate her current career with when she was a porn star. Nobody has seen it so she doesn't get recognition for it.
She is famous for doing under age porn which nobody in North America is allowed to own.
Being an underage porn star makes you noteworthy but clearly doesn't catapult you to fame stardom and success.
I hope you see my point.
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#384721 - 12/31/08 05:25 PM
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Porn Jesus
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I don't think I have ever heard Traci say the industry abused her.
Darrah. Sit down. Listen.
IT'S NOT TRACI WHO SAYS IT, IT'S EVERYBODY ELSE!!! Some with a grudge against porn. Some because it makes it titillating. Some because it's interesting trivia. But, most because that was the government's stance when they were going after the porn producers, so that's what the media reported.
You seem to be the only one not to get it. Many people don't like porn and pornstars. The ONLY reason Traci is accepted to any degree she's accepted by those people at that time is that she was [AND is] the postergirl for porn victimhood.
She's not an ex-porn star. Her porn days were "annulled" by her being "tricked by the porn industry". The fact that that might not be fact doesn't matter. It's been accepted as fact. QED.
I am NOT saying that Traci asked for this, wanted it or condones it. But, it exists and she has benefited from it.
Bottomline, I see no evidence of Traci Lords opening any doors for anyone.
Credit Ginger Lynn and Veronica Hart for things like "Cleo/Leo". Hell, even Lil Cinderella for her druggie role in "Boogie Nights". The softcore actresses of the early 90s going lezzie hardcore, like Jacqueline Lovell and Lorissa McComas, which made it easier for real hardcore actors and actresses to get Cinemax roles in this century, and thus make a path to some kind of mainstream. There are many examples.
But, not Traci. Her path was unique. And, god bless her, she made the most of it.
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#384722 - 12/31/08 05:31 PM
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Registered: 03/29/08
Posts: 1991
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please
what sashas done already surpasses anything anyone else has as far as mainstream goes- i dont care that jennas way richer or traci was on a tv show
its a fuckin academy award winning directors film fer chrissakes
thats a big fucking deal
shes the shit
and the girl with the most cake
fer sure
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#384723 - 12/31/08 05:32 PM
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Human Garbage
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I think you might not be taking into account that if she does want to get noticed it isn't as a former under age porn star.
Her post-porn career has been cultivated in a way that does not draw attention to her porn past.
Also I think the fact that nearly all of her movies are illegal makes it difficult for most folks to equate her current career with when she was a porn star. Nobody has seen it so she doesn't get recognition for it.
She is famous for doing under age porn which nobody in North America is allowed to own.
Being an underage porn star makes you noteworthy but clearly doesn't catapult you to fame stardom and success.
I hope you see my point.
I saw her in an interview and she said something bigger has to happen in her life for the tag "former porn star" to no longer attributed to her. After porn she was getting modeling gigs but was almost sued by one when they found out who she really was. She was using a different name. They were going to sue her for fraud. So she kept the name Traci Lords, now her legal name, and said she's not hiding from her past.
I read an interview of hers and she said she and her husband, at the time, were literally run out of their neighborhood after the neighbors found out she had done porn before. Probably a bunch of jelous housewives. But porn will always follow her. She had to leave her home because people hated her for doing porn. Though she was 14 when she first started in the adult industry.
She was one of the top porn stars back then. So she was popular in her own right. If now the only reason why she is popular and still gets work is because she was an underage porn star, that novelty would have worn out 20 years ago. And if Cry Baby is the only reason why she is still getting work today, that novelty would have worn out 15 years ago. She must have something to still be getting work .... like talent. She's not Meryl Streep but so aren't 99% of the rest of Hollywood.
SHE WAS 14. Can any of you not see that?? Why such hate for a woman who was brought into porn by her stepfather? Jim South, who was put on trial because of Traci, says her stepfather brought her in to his studio and told Jim I'll get her into porn movies soon. Have you no compasion? She's didn't kill anyone or abuse anyone. Max fucking Hardcore gets more love on this board than a former porn star who was brought in when she was 14. She wasn't the only underage girl in porn and isn't the last. She was just the most famous underage star.
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#384724 - 12/31/08 05:36 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 07/07/08
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is that she was [AND is] the postergirl for porn victimhood.
Isn't that Linda Lovelace?
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She's not an ex-porn star.
Then why is she still named as one of the best performers in porn and listed in the top 5 of top porn stars in history?
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#384725 - 12/31/08 05:40 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 07/07/08
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what sashas done already surpasses anything anyone else has as far as mainstream goes- i dont care that jennas way richer or traci was on a tv show
its a fuckin academy award winning directors film fer chrissakes
thats a big fucking deal
shes the shit
and the girl with the most cake
fer sure
Steven Soderbergh hasn't been relevant in years. For all we know, this movie might go straight to DVD. While Traci has worked alongside some of the biggest names in Hollywood history on television and feature films. Sasha's two movies aren't even out yet and you guys think a 22 year long Hollywood mainstream career means nothing that includes an acting award, top selling album, and best selling book.
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#384726 - 12/31/08 05:40 PM
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Traci Lords porn movies are still in circulation on the net. Clips constantly show up on the porn tube sites and most of movies are almost always up on usenet binary groups and out on the P2P networks. I never looked but I bet they are also out on the torrent sites. So people are still seeing them and know her for porn. Some people might not realize her age in those films but they are still out there if not exactly in the mainstream but the teenaged and early 20s bracket of porn hounds are finding the stuff.
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#384727 - 12/31/08 05:45 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Why such hate for a woman who was brought into porn by her stepfather?
What I see here is not HATE. It's honesty about her lack of impact on getting porn actresses mainstream.
There just isn't a path from her. She did NOTHING to blaze the way for any of the stars. NOTHING.
I'm sure there are those in porn who might be angry at Traci. Her lying, whether or not she was put up to it by her stepfather, caused many of them to lose money and to be imperiled by the Justice System. I'm sure most did not willfully, intentionally employ an under-aged actress. There is too much to lose and NOTHING to gain.
If I were say, Suze Randall, I'd be pissed. But, knowing the Randalls, they have nice-nice things to say the whole thing. Hell, they might even have had nice-nice things to say about if filming Traci, who she had every reason to think was legal, had put Holly's mom in jail.
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#384728 - 12/31/08 05:51 PM
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Human Garbage
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I'm sure there are those in porn who might be angry at Traci. Her lying, whether or not she was put up to it by her stepfather, caused many of them to lose money and to be imperiled by the Justice System. I'm sure most did not willfully, intentionally employ an under-aged actress. There is too much to lose and NOTHING to gain.
Blame the government for that, not her. They were hell bent on destroying the industry. Traci didn't get into porn wanting to destroy it. The FBI found out that one of porn's biggest stars is underage and they went in. That's not really Traci. That's the government's witch hunt. The ones who were arrested were all acquitted because the point used was if she could lie to the government about her age by having a passport, then how would the porn industry know how old she really was. The only one convicted was someone who knowingly sold now labeled "child porn" and repackaged it and sold it after the scandal broke.
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#384729 - 12/31/08 05:56 PM
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Steven Soderbergh hasn't been relevant in years. For all we know, this movie might go straight to DVD.
WHAT?! Seriously, you are in way over your head on this subject. Even Harvey Levin and his roving army of ex-Santa Monica Blvd. male hustlers know that isn't true.
And now, thank the Lord, off to  land.
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#384731 - 12/31/08 06:11 PM
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I doubt my brother, who's two years younger and doesn't watch porn, even knows who Jenna Jameson IS. Forget Sasha Grey.
I've always said Jenna is highly overrated. She's not as famous as she thinks she is. She just had great handlers around her and Jay's money which made a mountain out of a molehill.
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I never even got to see her in "New Wave Hookers".
Traci dated Slash but they never had sex. He said she broke up with him after going to his place and he and his friend were wasted and his friend waved a copy of that movie in her face saying "That's you isn't it?". She left and he never saw her again.  www.starpulse.com
I'm going to make something to eat now and check out who is on tonight's New Year's shows and which channels will air it. So don't think me not replying back means you've won. It means I'm hungry. 
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#384732 - 12/31/08 06:14 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Blame the government for that, not her.
I'm not blaming her. I don't care. I'm telling you honestly what the perception is and you're trying to change public opinion by arguing with me.
People get blamed for things they didn't do. Porn producers are still believed by many to be the people who duped her into porn. YOU don't seem to find that a problem, though you are 100% sure it's her stepdad's doing.
But the government only went after the porn guys ... so it leaves an lasting impression.
And, as Devil's Advocate, I don't recall her saying "I'm sorry about lying about my age, porn people. It's not your fault I was in your movie" at the time they were hounded by the government. So, people who were in the industry might just have it in their heads that she sold out her interests at their expense. Could you blame them?
They are closer to it and were the ones imperiled. She was with them every day, being nice-nice and friendly and came close to having her secret landing all of them in jail for a mighty long time.
Right now, had there been convictions, Suze Randall would be a registered sex offender, IF she were allowed to even stay in this country.
So, I can see why porn people might hate her.
Honestly, if I were she, I likely would have done no different. BUT, I would have understood why some people might find that problematic.
I can't see why you don't.
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#384734 - 12/31/08 06:36 PM
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Well if an authority on making it in Hollywood like Wankus says it, that's good enough for me.
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#384738 - 12/31/08 07:57 PM
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The point of the new rules is that we don't argue with darrah about her presence here on the forums and turn every thread into a name calling mess directed at her specifically. We can still argue/debate with her on the topics at hand. We should still be able to put down her opinions as long as we back it up with a reason and not for the sole purpose of personally attacking her. Believe me I know that is very hard to do. We can all still spit venom in the cage, at least to my interpretation of things, as long as we keep the rest of the forums relatively orderly. Then again I might be wrong and I could get banned....big whoop. If thats the case then Darrah, Gia, Brandon/alts, and Gia's little cadre of sycophants can wax intellectual over unicorns and rainbow's all by themselves. I'll just spend more time on the other boards I frequent.
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#384739 - 12/31/08 08:02 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/14/06
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And you want ME to cry for you when you have Hamels calling my "Stem-s" names in your sig?
I'm sorry people picked on you.
I don't see why Stinky Dicks should get banned.
But, then again, I'm not a moderator here. In all honesty, I'd be a poor one. I don't ban. It would takes a lot more than the stuff that bothers Gia, etc., to get me to ban someone.
Short of just being a plain unrepentant nuance or spammer [or unwarranted attacks the owner, PHLOG! If you're lurking on your "anniversary"], I cannot support bans. Any bans.
It was about a year ago, I guess when my protests against a ban Monstar made helped bring Monkey out from wherever he hides [Ceara's hamper is my guess, or maybe that's where I go].
Monkey threw his feces everywhere. The end result, not one but two mods bit the dust, which was sad because I like Monstar. [Chico, not so much].
So, you're not going to get any support from me on a "banning".
Now ... if you're lobbying about putting a certain someone in the Phlog Box .. well that's 
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