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#363374 - 09/28/08 06:01 PM Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
John Doe Offline
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I remember a few years ago, I use to be able to find fake, but convincing snuff porn sites. It seems like I can't find any lately. Is fake snuff porn Illegal now?

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#363375 - 09/28/08 06:28 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
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All porn is illegal where it offends community standards. Ask Max.

I'd imagine that a jury would be more likely to find "fake" snuff porn obscene than, say, a Vivid title, if that's what your asking. But the dramatic depiction of a murder, in and of itself? No.

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#363376 - 09/28/08 07:55 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
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Does anybody jerk off to that shit? I mean, can it really be called porn?
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#363377 - 09/28/08 08:00 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
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While we're on the subject, do PETA activists throw fake blood on people that wear fake fur?
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#363378 - 09/28/08 08:24 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
zenman Offline

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I believe it's red paint.
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#363379 - 09/28/08 09:24 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
RenfieldGyps Offline
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Peta sucks, they're hypocrites and yes it is red paint.

And if you want to watch snuff movies watch Vacancy w/Kate Beckinsale, it's pretty good and that's the storyline.

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#363380 - 09/28/08 09:50 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
John Doe Offline
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All porn is illegal where it offends community standards. Ask Max.

I'd imagine that a jury would be more likely to find "fake" snuff porn obscene than, say, a Vivid title, if that's what your asking. But the dramatic depiction of a murder, in and of itself? No.



Then I guess where it was filmed, is what would matter the most?

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#363381 - 09/28/08 09:57 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
JRV Offline
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Registered: 08/03/03
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I'd imagine that a jury would be more likely to find "fake" snuff porn obscene than, say, a Vivid title, if that's what your asking. But the dramatic depiction of a murder, in and of itself? No.



Hollywood does it all the time.
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#363382 - 09/28/08 09:58 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
John Doe Offline
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Does anybody jerk off to that shit? I mean, can it really be called porn?



I'm a consumer who buys porn. Regular porn got old a long time ago. I've watched allot of hardcore and forced rape / abuse porn. Personally, I'd like to see some snuff porn, if it were doable. The fake kind, of course.

But I'm not holding my breath, waiting for it to happen. I'm probably in the minority on this, so I'm sure it's not going to happen anytime soon.

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#363383 - 09/28/08 10:05 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
John Doe Offline
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And if you want to watch snuff movies watch Vacancy w/Kate Beckinsale, it's pretty good and that's the storyline.


I downloaded it yesterday, and plan to watch it tomorrow night. I think the two snuff films from the Guinea Pig Collection from Japan, were pretty convincing. But I was thinking more of combining snuff with rape/sex, when I started this thread. Those gore movies are usually just snuff, without any sexual violation.

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#363384 - 09/29/08 06:09 AM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
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Quote:


Then I guess where it was filmed, is what would matter the most?





I dunno. Where was it filmed? As noted above, Hollywood does it all the time, so if it was anywhere within the State of California, the answer is no. Anywhere else within the United States shooting porn is considered prostitution, so the addition of the "snuff" factor isn't going to matter.

Outside the US? YMMV.

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#363385 - 09/29/08 06:57 AM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
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mk-77-you have serious problems

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#363386 - 09/29/08 07:28 AM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
pornlaw Offline
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I remember a few years ago, I use to be able to find fake, but convincing snuff porn sites. It seems like I can't find any lately. Is fake snuff porn Illegal now?




It would be judged under the Miller test -- and if deemed to be obscene it would be illegal. No one would know until the jury decided. This is one area that most mainstream producers stay away from just because of the risks involved.
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#363387 - 09/29/08 02:57 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
John Doe Offline
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I think Hollywood gets away with it, because it's gore/horror/torture. In movies such as Hostel, There's no real sexual interaction involved between the perpetrator, and the victim. (Intercourse, Forced rape, Necrophilia etc..) So it's not really a porn flick, IMO. It falls more into the gore/horror genre. If forced rape, or other sexual activities were involved, then it would probably cross that invisible line of community standards.




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#363388 - 09/29/08 07:31 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
RenfieldGyps Offline
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Everyone has always told me Hostel sucked, I've never seen it for myself.

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#363389 - 09/29/08 09:39 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
Eminence Front Offline
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Registered: 07/14/06
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I thought "The Girl Next Door" was borderline snuff, very sad true story.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0830558/
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#363390 - 09/30/08 12:01 AM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
John Doe Offline
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Everyone has always told me Hostel sucked, I've never seen it for myself.



I liked the first one, but I thought the second one was pretty bad.

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#363391 - 09/30/08 12:07 AM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
John Doe Offline
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Quote:

I thought "The Girl Next Door" was borderline snuff, very sad true story.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0830558/



While I agree that it was somewhat borderline, It was also done in the context of telling the story, of a real life crime. So that doesn't qualify as snuff porn IMO.

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#363392 - 10/02/08 12:12 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
Natasha Badanova Offline
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Snuff and rape are no-no's in porn. Fisting is also considered immoral. But any state/city/locale can deem anything illegal or immoral at any time. Yep. Sad state of affairs when adults can't decide what they want to watch without Uncle F-ing Sam getting involved. And you know the Republicans watch it too. They just seize it so they can get it for free They never thought about just asking for it.

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#363393 - 10/02/08 12:54 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
Darrah Offline
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and rape are no-no's in porn.



Obviously you've never heard of Max Hardcore huh?






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#363394 - 10/02/08 04:14 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
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Quote:

Quote:

and rape are no-no's in porn.



Obviously you've never heard of Max Hardcore huh?




shut up cunt before you get your ass raped by a fist and no crisco

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#363395 - 10/02/08 04:19 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
Darrah Offline
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Max, is that you?



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#363396 - 10/02/08 04:44 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
ivorenginedriver Offline
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Whatchya drinkin', Darrah?

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#363397 - 10/02/08 07:15 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
Darrah Offline
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Ice tea

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#363398 - 10/02/08 07:36 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
Dirty Deadz Offline
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Registered: 04/12/08
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Star80, starring Mariel Hemingway as Playmate Dorothy Stratton, and Eric Roberts as the cuddly fun suitcase pimp Paul Snyder. That shit is HOT! You just can't put a rating on that kinda romance!

-Keep It Dirty

p.s. Hi Kitten!
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#363399 - 10/02/08 07:36 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
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Spike your iced tea with vodka. It makes all the difference in the world.

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#363400 - 10/03/08 01:22 AM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
John Doe Offline
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Quote:

Star80, starring Mariel Hemingway as Playmate Dorothy Stratton, and Eric Roberts as the cuddly fun suitcase pimp Paul Snyder. That shit is HOT! You just can't put a rating on that kinda romance!

-Keep It Dirty

p.s. Hi Kitten!



You just gave me an Idea for my next DVD acquisition. That was a fun movie, I haven't seen it in a long time.

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#363401 - 10/03/08 01:26 AM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
Darrah Offline
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Quote:


-Keep It Dirty

p.s. Hi Kitten!



Who me? Hiya back!


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#363402 - 10/04/08 09:53 AM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
The Ghost Is Toast Offline
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Registered: 10/21/05
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Come January 2009, it will be illegal in the UK, at least to possess it. The law has already been passed/signed by the Queen, and January is the beginning of enforcement.

It's all to do with a facist piece of thought-crime law called 'The Dangerous Pictures Act'...you can read more HERE. It makes me ashamed to be British, quite frankly.

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#363403 - 10/04/08 01:45 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
Dirty Deadz Offline
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Quote:

Quote:


-Keep It Dirty

p.s. Hi Kitten!



Who me? Hiya back!

WHAT?!?! You dare think that I, Dirty Deadz, would call any other woman but you Kitten? I'm shocked and appalled frankly, and I see now that you don't even know me at all. Every whore gets a different pet name, and yours is Kitten. That being said, Hi Kitten. We can change the name to something far cruder and a bit degrading even if you'd like. I'm totally down for callin' you names!

-Keep It Dirty




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#363404 - 10/04/08 06:00 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
Darrah Offline
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WHAT?!?! You dare think that I, Dirty Deadz, would call any other woman but you Kitten? I'm shocked and appalled frankly, and I see now that you don't even know me at all. Every whore gets a different pet name, and yours is Kitten. That being said, Hi Kitten. We can change the name to something far cruder and a bit degrading even if you'd like. I'm totally down for callin' you names!

-Keep It Dirty



I'm a whore?

I thought maybe you were calling Pretty that.

But Kitten sounds cute.

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#363405 - 10/04/08 08:59 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
Anonymous
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Quote:

'The Dangerous Pictures Act'




Sounds like it was written by Mahmoud Cocksnot.

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#363406 - 10/04/08 09:37 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
k1ng Offline
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Registered: 03/22/06
Posts: 6557
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Quote:

Come January 2009, it will be illegal in the UK, at least to possess it. The law has already been passed/signed by the Queen, and January is the beginning of enforcement.

It's all to do with a facist piece of thought-crime law called 'The Dangerous Pictures Act'...you can read more HERE. It makes me ashamed to be British, quite frankly.




outlawing fake snuff porn sucks, but accepting muslim sharia courts is downright scary.

The government has quietly sanctioned the powers for sharia judges to rule on cases ranging from divorce and financial disputes to those involving domestic violence.
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#363407 - 10/04/08 09:52 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
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Quote:

Rulings issued by a network of five sharia courts are enforceable with the full power of the judicial system, through the county courts or High Court.


Previously, the rulings of sharia courts in Britain could not be enforced, and depended on voluntary compliance among Muslims.





Jesus. Even the decisions of the Rabbinical Courts here in Brooklyn aren't enforceable except through the voluntary compliance amongst Jews.

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#363408 - 10/05/08 10:42 AM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
The Ghost Is Toast Offline
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Registered: 10/21/05
Posts: 2710
Looks like the shit just got real:

UK blogger in court for 'obscene' post

Here is the offending story:

Girls Scream Aloud

We are happy to live in Brown's fascist utopia (not) !!!

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#363409 - 10/05/08 11:06 AM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
cqd Offline
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@Dan: Can this law be applied to music as well? As in could Carcass (for example) get arrested for writing or performing or recording a disgusting song?
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#363410 - 10/05/08 02:39 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
The Ghost Is Toast Offline
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Registered: 10/21/05
Posts: 2710
The blogger is getting done under the OPA (Obscene Publications Act), an existing law. The Dangerous Pictures Act refers solely to visual media. One of the more interesting kinks is that if you make a screencap of a BBFC-certified work (say, the female assassin getting killed in 'Munich') and the courts decide you did it for sexual purposes, you're guilty!

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#363411 - 10/05/08 05:30 PM Re: Is fake snuff porn Illegal?
Dirty Deadz Offline
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Kitten- It's a sad fact of life...

WE'RE ALL WHORES!

...The rest is merely circumstance and negotiations.

-Keep It Dirty
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