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#352155 - 08/12/08 08:34 PM
Is not doing IR racist?
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ADT regular
Registered: 06/26/08
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I keep hearing this black male talent going around and saying that if a white,latin or asian chick doesn't do a scene with him then they are racist. Just wondering if anyone can get any more ignorant than him? 
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#352156 - 08/12/08 08:47 PM
Re: Is not doing IR racist?
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 06/05/08
Posts: 115
Loc: Fuckitopolis
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I always thought in America, you had something called, um, what was it? Oh, yeah,freedom of choice that's it...
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#352157 - 08/12/08 08:57 PM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 01/18/06
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And being forced to do something you're not comfortable with is called Fascist. 
Using that logic, if you don't fuck gay guys, you're a homophobe.
Um, could it be she's just not into you? 
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#352158 - 08/12/08 09:01 PM
Re: Is not doing IR racist?
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 06/05/08
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Still comes back to choices. You choose to put a pipe full of meth or crack to your lips, and then find yourself having to take a dip in the chocolate pool. Still came down to a choice.
Edited by Paranoid Opioid (08/12/08 09:05 PM)
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#352159 - 08/12/08 09:39 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/25/06
Posts: 4470
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Where's tritone when you need him? He could decypher this once & for all!
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#352160 - 08/13/08 12:51 AM
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Pervert
Registered: 12/26/07
Posts: 2056
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Seriously, this horse has been dead for a loooong time. Just stop beating it.
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#352162 - 08/13/08 05:00 AM
Re: Is not doing IR racist?
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 01/12/06
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You did realize where you posting this question, right? Starting this topic here can get you villified.
Nonetheless, I'll beat this dead horse again for you and get in before the usual litany of stormfront responses.
Not really. To be perfectly honest, I don't see why most of them would f any of those guys but a girl will definitely f someone she's not attracted to, even if its a rare thing for them to do so. Look at most porn movies. So the not attracted to them thing doesn't really hold water. Thus, I tend to believe that the primary goal is financial. They have to take advantage of the brief time they are there so they hold out on certain things that the industry will pay more for. Unfortunately, this leads to a situation where those who are just taking advantage of the system and the small percentage that are legitimately having sex with those they are attracted to look as racist as those who are generally discriminating. Then there's the fact that porn isn't communist so not everyone is gonna get the same share of the pie, you dig? Whatever, just do what you want.
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#352166 - 08/13/08 10:35 AM
Re: Is not doing IR racist?
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 01/12/06
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Jacque, you don't have to use terms like Nignog. It doesn't advance you're argument in any way. In fact, it renders it less cogent when you demonstrate a palpable desire to denigrate a race by showing a bias.
Regardless, I mean if the pay were exactly the same, the productions were exactly the same, and the relative attractiveness of the characters were the same, we would have a better argument one way or the other. However, they aren't. In fact, there have been stars that would have participated if the presentation wasn't as derogatory. Also, there are those who do but not because they like blacks but because that niche was better for them financially. It would also serve you to know that we're not exactly dealing with the best and the brightest in this business, alright?
So there's no real way to tell but you shouldn't care too much anyhow. It's a fantasy.
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#352167 - 08/13/08 10:44 AM
Re: Is not doing IR racist?
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Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 05/07/06
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If a black girl, say Jada Fire, doesn’t want to work with Ron Jeremy, Christian XXX, Randy Wet etc etc does that make her racist? I think Paranoid and Dak'kun summed it up best.  (i don't know what this is supposed to be but its fucking funny)
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#352168 - 08/13/08 02:10 PM
Re: Is not doing IR racist?
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 03/07/06
Posts: 1059
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This reminds me of Jenna Haze who for years said "I'm not attracted to black guys" as her reason for not doing IR. In the last year she worked with Mr. Marcus, Lex and Jack Napier, all of whom have been in the business for years. I guess she became magically attracted to them.
But I have to admit, each of those scenes were pretty hot. It's too bad Lex was having wood problems. How do you have wood problems when fucking Jenna Haze in the ass? I'll never forgive him for that.
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#352171 - 08/13/08 04:27 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 05/08/07
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I thought we buried all this bullshit with Tritone. I'm in an interracial marriage. I defend every whore's right to refuse to work with black talent. Think about it. It just makes sense.
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#352172 - 08/13/08 04:27 PM
Re: Is not doing IR racist?
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 05/16/07
Posts: 988
Loc: Sun Diego
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The industry does place a certain fetish on white actresses fucking black men, and some of it can get pretty fucking ridiculous. In an industry where the certain "new acts" an actress can do and get increased pay or exposure for can quickly deplete with each new scene (especially some of the tard talent that starts with a DP), its no surprise that "Her First Scene with a Black Man!" has become such a tag line or selling point. It doesn't surprise me if there's some racist women out there who refuse to work with black male talent out of hate, but really how many porn stars out of the thousands regularly demand it? And how many have stuck with "no interracial" to the end of their careers?  If anyone's the racist, its the consumers who buy into some of this ridiculous shit...and hell, even the industry itself can even feel ashamed of it. Shit, I remember three years ago when some companies still had the balls to put "NIGGER" in their video titles. Now "negro-this"..."negro-that" is about as derogatory as it comes. 
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#352173 - 08/13/08 06:32 PM
Re: Is not doing IR racist?
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 07/12/06
Posts: 90
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 Who fucken cares!!!! So what if a chick doesn't want to fuck someone because of their skin color. For every 100 whores that don't do IR there's 100
that do. It's just funny, carry on.
1. Whore: A woman that sleeps with everyone but YOU!!!!!
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#352175 - 08/13/08 07:59 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 03/07/06
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Actually it's: A whore is a woman that sleeps with everybody. A bitch is a woman that sleeps with everybody but you.
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#352176 - 08/13/08 08:31 PM
Re: Is not doing IR racist?
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/25/06
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This reminds me of Jenna Haze who for years said "I'm not attracted to black guys" as her reason for not doing IR. In the last year she worked with Mr. Marcus, Lex and Jack Napier, all of whom have been in the business for years. I guess she became magically attracted to them.
But I have to admit, each of those scenes were pretty hot. It's too bad Lex was having wood problems. How do you have wood problems when fucking Jenna Haze in the ass? I'll never forgive him for that.
It's a fucking job, there need not be an attraction.
But if the performer / person themselves feels they will not have any chemistry with whomever; or deem that person unattractive, that's their problem - not the fucking spectator fanbois to judge or decide.
As for the PR fag who has a problem with 'nignog', I could just say 'nigger' or 'spearchucker'. I was trying to be nice by using the former. Again, if you know me & my motive, neither of those terms refers to a 'black person'. Said it once, I'll say it again, those terms refer to the lifestyle of ANY given party, regardless their color. The term has transformed itself in the past 150 years.
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#352177 - 08/13/08 10:29 PM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 01/16/07
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As for the PR fag who has a problem with 'nignog', I could just say 'nigger' or 'spearchucker'. I was trying to be nice by using the former. Again, if you know me & my motive, neither of those terms refers to a 'black person'. Said it once, I'll say it again, those terms refer to the lifestyle of ANY given party, regardless their color. The term has transformed itself in the past 150 years.
Admitting to being a little racist is fine and makes you look more honest and less weasely than saying some bullshit excuse like "those terms changed over the past 150 years. If you can find me proof of any alternate origin for Nigger or Spearchucker than referring to Blacks... please, indulge. Was it always negative? no, it wasnt... it didnt become negative till it was made negative. But saying it means everyone of a certain lifestyle is like saying "kike just means your cheap" or "Spic just means people who are really good at jumping fences" or "Irish means people who drink heavily"
Though, yesterday on my day off... i stayed in bed most of the day and my negroid roommate told me i was in nigger mortis... cause i was so lazy i might as well be dead.
I'm also drunk... so take it all with grain of coke.
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#352178 - 08/13/08 10:33 PM
Re: Is not doing IR racist?
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 01/16/07
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to answer the original question... nope, its just smart.. everyone knows burning coal may be good for a quick buck, but in the end how will you ever get a nice employed Caucasian man to ever want anything to do with you again afterword.
not racist at all, just common sense.
Besides, the aids!
hmmm i seem to be channeling he ghost of Jim Holiday tonight.
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#352179 - 08/14/08 12:16 AM
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Sex Slave Trader
Registered: 09/20/05
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At the risk of seeming uninformed, what's the association with the AIDS comments Rob?
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#352180 - 08/14/08 09:03 AM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
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higher incidence of the hiv in blacks than in whites, discussed in another thread.
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#352182 - 08/14/08 04:27 PM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
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i knew of one white porn actor off the top of my head who wouldnt do IR... which is hilarious because he had no problem doing gay films we found out.
i'm sure a few people know who i am talking about.
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#352191 - 08/15/08 03:21 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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I don't know what's the fascination is on this board with the pirating at the mm board. Do you know how many hundreds more prominent sites there are for pirating porn? If you were to google porn right now your top results would be porntube and xtube. I can assure you that they get millions more hits than the Marcus board each month.
That board is made up of idiots mainly - so what? Is it just because it's hypocritical to have a board devoted to fostering discussions about interracial sex that also pirates porn? Big deal. They don't do a good job at either so why keep harping on it?
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#352192 - 08/15/08 03:26 PM
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I have heard of some women who just dont do black guys...whatever reason....they will do latinos/hispanic guys....middle eastern guys...asian guys....so it really is based on your definition of WTF is an actual racist.
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#352193 - 08/15/08 04:26 PM
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I don't know what's the fascination is on this board with the pirating at the mm board.
Ummmmm... maybe because he's in the fucking business, yet he aids and abets theft from his colleagues?
Just a guess.
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#352194 - 08/15/08 04:39 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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He's never on the board. I used to be there for a bit but he's never there. I mean for a few years now. He thinks that they're ridiculous. It just carries his name.
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#352195 - 08/15/08 04:47 PM
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He's never on the board. I used to be there for a bit but he's never there. I mean for a few years now. He thinks that they're ridiculous. It just carries his name.
Exactly. It carries his name. And he's made no effort to curtail such activity. Therefore, he condones the behavior of the people who wilfully engage in piracy under his imprimatur.
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#352197 - 08/15/08 08:49 PM
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Porn Jesus
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But saying it means everyone of a certain lifestyle is like saying "kike just means your cheap" or "Spic just means people who are really good at jumping fences" or "Irish means people who drink heavily"
No, Jew means cheap, not kike. Kike would be derogatory, and I'm not even Jewish. Spearchucker, yes, would be derogatory & is meant as such when I use the term in public (and mind you, meant to piss off the motherfucker whom I'm using it toward).
Mind you, a person of color would have to get me pretty pissed off in order to say such a thing. Like road rage angry. And even then, the point of using such language is "Listen up asswipe, do I have your attention NOW?" while they bouncing from lane-to-lane on the I-75 in their jacked up Chevy Caprice with 26" rims playing rap music at top volume just to grab the attention of fellow drivers in a shitty attempt of "look at me & ma' ride".
Nigger, OTOH (and I don't give a flying fuck what you think), is a lifestyle adjective in today's society. Like it or not, prove me wrong. Where do such age-old terms like "nigger shanty", "nigger rigged", etc. come from, if you believe otherwise? It refers means unkept & lazy, which indirectly refers to the lazy, shithole style-of-life that characters like Fred Sanford (albeit only a fictional character, something to compare to) inhabited.
I know plenty of awesome & nice black folks, but I choose not to know the 'n----rs'. To say I have a problem with black people, or their race, would show how little you know me.
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Though, yesterday on my day off... i stayed in bed most of the day and my negroid roommate told me i was in nigger mortis... cause i was so lazy i might as well be dead.
That is probably one of the best fucking homemade slurs I've ever heard.
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White people are responsible for them giving it away over there.
Yeah, yeah, maaaan, it all da white man fault. I dig.
Keep blaming whitey, dumbass, it doesn't make the problem go away.
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#352198 - 08/15/08 08:54 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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That board is owned by some cracka named Londo-Cat, who is a fucking idiot. Marcus, also an idiot, really has no control over the board. Even if he were to take a stand, the domain name is still owned by Londo, so it would make no difference. And there are a billion better ways to steal porn than that shitty forum anyway. Usenet, Torrents, a million rapidshare blogs, and fucking Google.
Finally, someone who sees my point. It's just a really shitty board that's not a good source for pirating or interesting dialogue. If it were gone tomorrow, no one would notice.
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#352199 - 08/15/08 11:22 PM
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Whoremaster
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Yes, there are other piracy forums out there that are bigger than the Marcus board...however, unlike these other boards, the Marcus one is genre specific.
On an all-in board, with all the diverse genres and fetishes that are available, I'd be very surprised if IR made up 5% of the cotent...on the Marcus board, it's 100% of what's available.
What gets my goat is that the selfsame people who are bitching about certain girls not popping their on-camera IR are the same ones bleeding IR producers dry and ensuring they can't compete financially when it comes to getting holdout talent to up their levels.
If you equate the thread views on the main piracy topics on the Marcus board with a nominal 50 cent to $1 dollar loss (when in reality it is probably a lot more) then the Marcus forum alone has cost the IR genre hundreds of thousands if not millions in lost revenue.
The other reason the Marcus forum gets the beatdown is because tritone posts there (and fileshares there too), and you know what high regard we all hold him in over here.
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So why should skin color matter??? 
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