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#279996 - 10/10/07 09:48 AM
Re: I wonder sometimes what people are thinking
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 02/23/05
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"...Then on Sept. 8th, my supervisor calls me into the office — this was the official ribbon cutting day — and says he wants to share this letter with me; he describes it as 'very disturbing.'"
That letter was sent anonymously, with no return address..."
If there were out-of-focus pictures enclosed with that letter, Luke better watch his back.
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#279997 - 10/10/07 11:12 AM
Re: I wonder sometimes what people are thinking
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 06/05/05
Posts: 4468
Loc: Great America
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and what hot porn chicks outside of kinzie kenner was this dude banging?
*hey candy mason is hot* 
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#279998 - 10/10/07 11:24 AM
Re: I wonder sometimes what people are thinking
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 01/09/06
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Maybe he didn’t lie but just didn’t tell.
For example, I perform at every thing from kid’s birthday parties to bachelor parties and many corporate events. When asked for references I offer only what pertains to the job I am applying for. The other references are not in the same industry so I don’t purposely hide it but I don’t offer it either. Maybe he was doing the same. Only mentioning his tennis credits because it’s a tennis job. If he has enough references and credits to his tennis career than I don’t think he mislead anyone.
Hugs and Hissessss,
Maria
Exactly. You aren't required to put every bit of your working past in your resume. In fact if you have experience in a variety of industries, its smart to have a few different resumes that reflect on each. If his tennis history is "extensive and impressive" like he said, I see no reason why he should mention any other work he's done.
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#279999 - 10/10/07 11:30 AM
Re: I wonder sometimes what people are thinking
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 10/01/07
Posts: 135
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Maybe he didn’t lie but just didn’t tell.
For example, I perform at every thing from kid’s birthday parties to bachelor parties and many corporate events. When asked for references I offer only what pertains to the job I am applying for. The other references are not in the same industry so I don’t purposely hide it but I don’t offer it either. Maybe he was doing the same. Only mentioning his tennis credits because it’s a tennis job. If he has enough references and credits to his tennis career than I don’t think he mislead anyone.
Hugs and Hissessss,
Maria
Exactly. You aren't required to put every bit of your working past in your resume. If his tennis history is "extensive and impressive" like he said, I see no reason why he should mention any other work he's done.
lol, you are so scared right now girl.
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#280002 - 10/10/07 11:50 AM
Re: I wonder sometimes what people are thinking
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 01/09/06
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Umm, not exactly. Many people might be a wee bit squeamish about someone involved in the porn industry (even just a lil ole webcam girl tht sells her used panties) working in a trust position such as at a law or accounting firm, bank, school, etc.
Point taken. But we're talking about tennis here 
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#280003 - 10/10/07 11:51 AM
Re: I wonder sometimes what people are thinking
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 08/10/05
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Hi,
I disclosed my previous work experience in the adult entertainment business with my boss prior to my being offered the job. He and I have known each other for years. He asked me about it at lunch months before I was hired. It was his opinion that it was irrelevent to my job at the tennis center. I was hired out of 150 applicants.
No, I did not specifically list any adult industry work on my resume. I did, however, list my web design company. The vast majority of the work I did in the adult business was web design. But we did lots of work, both adult and non-adult.
I love XXXPornTalk.com because it's truly a censorship free message board. I like that the moderators don't remove posts. Someone who doesn't know me, nor all the facts can come on here and call me a "clown". And that's his right to do so. However, name calling is just so... what's the word?
Do I really need to list names of other hot porn girls I've banged? Seriously people.
The message here is that there are plenty of people in the adult entertainment industry that have other professional skills, talents and emlpoyment experience. Their association with the adult entertainment industry should not preclude them from other employment, especially with the government.
It's good to have an open discussion about this. Fire away.
Important to note:
I was a low-level employee at the city tennis center. This was an administrative job. I was not employed as a tennis instructor at this particluar job. My tennis employment resume includes 12 yrs as a country club tennis director and tennis teaching pro.
It seems clear to me that middle city management fired me in a knee jerk reaction. Wanting to avoid negative press for the cities new 7 million dollar facility.
No hard feelings, it's just wrong. I'm already working on a new web site project that I am sure you will all enjoy.
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#280005 - 10/10/07 12:22 PM
Re: I wonder sometimes what people are thinking
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 02/23/05
Posts: 3724
Loc: Paddling my canoe in the wild
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Don't get me wrong, I feel real sympathy for you. You found a job that you have a real passion for and by all accounts have some aptitude for it as well. Then you got the rug pulled out from under you by some jackass who thought it would be easier on him to fire you then stand up to the letter-writer (I still think it might be Luke). My comments were related to whether or not the porn career is relevant to a job application. Unfortunately, the answer to that is "yes." In your case, there was disclosure because your superviser knew about it before hiring you, so you could not be canned for misrepresenting your experience (a common position taken by management). Does AZ really let employers fore someone, without cause, with no severance? Crazy. The rules up north are a lot more labour friendly, but the tennis season is also shorter. Sadly, my sympathy and $3 will get you a coffee at Starbucks, you might want to consider sellig real estate though.  Best of luck.
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#280006 - 10/10/07 12:22 PM
Re: I wonder sometimes what people are thinking
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 02/23/05
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Loc: Paddling my canoe in the wild
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Don't get me wrong, I feel real sympathy for you. You found a job that you have a real passion for and by all accounts have some aptitude for it as well. Then you got the rug pulled out from under you by some jackass who thought it would be easier on him to fire you then stand up to the letter-writer (I still think it might be Luke). My comments were related to whether or not the porn career is relevant to a job application. Unfortunately, the answer to that is "yes." In your case, there was disclosure because your superviser knew about it before hiring you, so you could not be canned for misrepresenting your experience (a common position taken by management). Does AZ really let employers fore someone, without cause, with no severance? Crazy. The rules up north are a lot more labour friendly, but the tennis season is also shorter. Sadly, my sympathy and $3 will get you a coffee at Starbucks, you might want to consider selling real estate though. Best of luck.
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#280008 - 10/10/07 12:36 PM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 08/10/05
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I feel real sympathy for you...
I'm not seeking sympathy, thanks though. Just want to get people thinking and talking about the issue of people that are seeking employment, even in government, that have employment history in the adult entertainment industry
My comments were related to whether or not the porn career is relevant to a job application. Unfortunately, the answer to that is "yes."...
How is it relevent in this case?
Does AZ really let employers fore someone, without cause, with no severance?...
Yes, AZ is an "at-will" work state. Unless there was discrimination based on age, race, gender, sexual orientation. They can fire you for any reason. The official reason for firing me was that they didn't have to have a reason under state law.
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#280009 - 10/10/07 12:49 PM
Re: I wonder sometimes what people are thinking
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 11/04/06
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Tough break, Jeff. What, did they think you were going to initiate some kind of porn tennis? "Hey, let's replace the racket with a fucking dildo! Awesome!"
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#280010 - 10/10/07 12:58 PM
Re: I wonder sometimes what people are thinking
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 08/10/05
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Tough break, Jeff. What, did they think you were going to initiate some kind of porn tennis? "Hey, let's replace the racket with a fucking dildo! Awesome!"
It's my strong belief that either my boss' boss, middle city management took a "run for the hills" approach to this anonymous letter, or he (my boss' boss) has a personal, moral, religious or other ideological opposition to porn. Everything happens for a reason. No big deal in the big picture. The job didn't pay that much but it was a passion of mine and a labor of love. That being said, I am going full steam into my next adult project, fuck it. Look for a press release announcing the launch, coming soon.
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#280011 - 10/10/07 04:13 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 08/30/07
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Tough break, Jeff. What, did they think you were going to initiate some kind of porn tennis? "Hey, let's replace the racket with a fucking dildo! Awesome!"
It's my strong belief that either my boss' boss, middle city management took a "run for the hills" approach to this anonymous letter, or he (my boss' boss) has a personal, moral, religious or other ideological opposition to porn. Everything happens for a reason. No big deal in the big picture. The job didn't pay that much but it was a passion of mine and a labor of love. That being said, I am going full steam into my next adult project, fuck it. Look for a press release announcing the launch, coming soon.
Arizona is about as conservative as a state can be. Remember they were one of the last states that refused to recognize Martin Luther King Day. Public Enemy wrote a thing about that.
I'm thinking that Christian is wondering why ANYBODY who chooses porn as a vocation would EVER try to make it as a "civilian" and not EXPECT his or her past to come back and FUCK THEM. I'm sure the other poster who wrote, "are you scared", is trying to convey the same thing.
Christian has written many times about how this thing or yours is "like the mob". You can “NEVER GET OUTâ€. I'm sure a guy like him, who had MANY alternatives career wise, thinks about that often and then just makes the best of the current situation. What else are you people going to do?
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#280012 - 10/10/07 04:15 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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#280015 - 10/10/07 07:02 PM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 08/10/05
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first of all, i apologize for calling you a clown needlessly, it was a mistake.
Thanks, no worries.
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but i still dont understand how you can be incredulous about getting fired from a normal job when for the past 8 years you have been knee deep in the adult industry.
I'm not surprised by it. Never stated I was surprised. What I am surprised about my firing is that my boss knew about my history in the adult entertainment industry before I was hired. Then the anonymous letter shows up. It becomes a different story.
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I am just curious why peter warren thinks that this story is newsworthy in any way shape or form.
I think it's just another example of hypocricy and government vs. free speech.
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p.s. i am going to ignore the not so subtle dig at me and my career in this business.
I don't recall making any stabs other than a remark about people that resort to name calling.
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just like i am not going to relate about what your main claim to fame is, pimping/dating a certain porn chick.
I've never made any claim to fame. Others dish out that label. But I can safely say that I am not, nor have I ever been a pimp.
Peace to all!
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#280017 - 10/10/07 09:25 PM
Re: I wonder sometimes what people are thinking
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/23/04
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People throw around the phrase "freedom of speech" a lot.
There is no freedom of speech except when you are dealing with government censorship and of course that is debatable.
There should never be any expectation of "freedom of speech" within a private entity.
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#280018 - 10/10/07 09:59 PM
Re: I wonder sometimes what people are thinking
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 08/10/05
Posts: 42
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There should never be any expectation of "freedom of speech" within a private entity.
What about a government entity?
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#280019 - 10/10/07 10:12 PM
Re: I wonder sometimes what people are thinking
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/23/04
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Nope, not as a gov't or gov't agency employee.
You don't get mulligans for your past.
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#280020 - 10/11/07 11:00 PM
Re: I wonder sometimes what people are thinking
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/25/06
Posts: 4470
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Maybe he didn’t lie but just didn’t tell.
For example, I perform at every thing from kid’s birthday parties to bachelor parties and many corporate events. When asked for references I offer only what pertains to the job I am applying for. The other references are not in the same industry so I don’t purposely hide it but I don’t offer it either. Maybe he was doing the same. Only mentioning his tennis credits because it’s a tennis job. If he has enough references and credits to his tennis career than I don’t think he mislead anyone.
Likewise.
And Christian, if you EVER have the yearn to teach again, you'll do the same. I highly doubt you'll EVER get another teaching gig if you decide to post your adult credentials ~ which I'm sure you're well aware of.
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Does AZ really let employers fore someone, without cause, with no severance? Crazy. The rules up north are a lot more labour friendly, but the tennis season is also shorter.
Grizz, many states in the US are like this, but obviously not those in the northeast US. I don't know about too many parts of the country, but Oklahomo, Kentucky, Kansas, & Idaho all ring bells as "right to work" states, IIRC. Of course, "right to work" meaning you have the right to work here, not the priviledge, in that sense.
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