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#235376 - 04/10/07 07:23 AM Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advice...
fuckwhore Offline
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Adult FYI

After her obvious plagiarism, I hope that Veronica Rayne does not start giving legal advice on her new talk show.

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#235377 - 04/10/07 08:39 AM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advice...
Moxie Offline
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Its a talk show so its not legal advice. But I think its good having a "lay person" contribute and give the whore's perspective, since that is who the show is directed toward.

What is this obvious plagarism you speak of?
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#235378 - 04/10/07 09:34 AM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
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Its a talk show so its not legal advice. But I think its good having a "lay person" contribute and give the whore's perspective, since that is who the show is directed toward.

What is this obvious plagarism you speak of?




Scroll down mid section "Where did Veronica study law".
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#235379 - 04/10/07 10:00 AM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
pornlaw Offline
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Registered: 01/01/06
Posts: 459
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No, Veronica wont be giving out legal advice, but she does have a legal background.

She will be giving out sex advice though. Something a good whore knows a lot about.

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#235380 - 04/10/07 10:08 AM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
lance69 Offline
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Well the new boobs look hot anyway. Liked them better before but not a bad job.
And who gives a shit if she trying to spread information instead of just her legs? Sometimes sluts can be smart too.
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#235381 - 04/10/07 10:12 AM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
DuckHunt Offline
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Registered: 10/27/05
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Nigga please.

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#235382 - 04/10/07 10:14 AM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
Moxie Offline
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Registered: 06/23/06
Posts: 1557
Loc: New York
Veronica's explanation is perfectly reasonable. What did you expect, for her to go to the law library, research the cases and write an original breif for some lukeisback retard? All legal writting is plagarism.

I completely believe Veronica went to lawschool.

Edit: I completely believe her new tits look awesome.


Edited by Moxie (04/10/07 10:57 AM)
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#235383 - 04/10/07 11:57 AM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
pornlaw Offline
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She is as much of a smartass as I have ever met. She's got a quick wit to her and she's not afraid to say exactly whats on her mind. She's going to piss people off, but I dont care. She's a strong co-host.

As for the law school/plagarism issue, Moxie is correct, almost all legal writing is plagarism to some extent.

And yes, her tits are more beautiful in person.

Michael
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#235384 - 04/10/07 12:11 PM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
Dick Dastardly Offline
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She is as much of a smartass as I have ever met. She's got a quick wit to her and she's not afraid to say exactly whats on her mind. She's going to piss people off, but I dont care. She's a strong co-host.




Co-host to whom, on what show?
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#235385 - 04/10/07 12:46 PM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
pornlaw Offline
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Mine... Breaking The Law on Mondays 9-11 pm PST on

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#235386 - 04/10/07 01:00 PM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advice...
The Ghost Is Toast Offline
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Posts: 2710
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Its a talk show so its not legal advice. But I think its good having a "lay person" contribute and give the whore's perspective, since that is who the show is directed toward.





That's a quality double entendre right there...

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#235387 - 04/10/07 04:30 PM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
jamesn Offline
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there are some very smart lawyers but it's not 40 years ago. every liberal arts student at a 4-year place you stand a chance of not getting into is a potential lawyer. there are a shitload of lawschools today, many of them are available as nightschool.


if you show up to every class as an undergrad, put some level of effort into it, and pay someone at kaplan you can end up with a decent gpa and i know from teaching idiots there when i was 20 for the sat's one summer-you can get an idiot to fall pretty close to average on standardized tests. it's supposed to be a dirty-iq test but if you take it again and again in practice the scores go up pretty predictably until a percentile a little above the mean. meaning there are tons of people going from pretty ugly numbers to the 150's, but you'll rarely get someone in the 150's into the 170's.

so you can be pretty fucking average and end up sitting in a room taking the bar.

there's still an image lawyers and md's making about the same as each other and less than people in finance but being more learned that doesn't reflect the reality right now.

kids coming out of law school aren't going to live like consultants of oncologists for the vast majority, nowhere close. it's not an instant-job that makes six figures anymore.

and you didn't get into yale and you didn't make the NBA, and getting a gig at cravath where you wear a fancy suit isn't going to happen. most lawyers pay for their own gym-memberships, don't belong to country-clubs and they might never make six-figures in their lives. better chance in ny, chicago, boston, etc.


so remember kids, there may be VERY smart lawyers, but there are so fucking many of them now there are some pretty fucking stupid ones not making much money.

it's possible some of the better-written porn chicks could have gone to law school.
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#235388 - 04/10/07 04:36 PM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
Pussy is good food Offline
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Registered: 01/19/07
Posts: 465
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there are some very smart lawyers but it's not 40 years ago. every liberal arts student at a 4-year place you stand a chance of not getting into is a potential lawyer. there are a shitload of lawschools today, many of them are available as nightschool.


if you show up to every class as an undergrad, put some level of effort into it, and pay someone at kaplan you can end up with a decent gpa and i know from teaching idiots there when i was 20 for the sat's one summer-you can get an idiot to fall pretty close to average on standardized tests. it's supposed to be a dirty-iq test but if you take it again and again in practice the scores go up pretty predictably until a percentile a little above the mean. meaning there are tons of people going from pretty ugly numbers to the 150's, but you'll rarely get someone in the 150's into the 170's.

so you can be pretty fucking average and end up sitting in a room taking the bar.

there's still an image lawyers and md's making about the same as each other and less than people in finance but being more learned that doesn't reflect the reality right now.

kids coming out of law school aren't going to live like consultants of oncologists for the vast majority, nowhere close. it's not an instant-job that makes six figures anymore.

and you didn't get into yale and you didn't make the NBA, and getting a gig at cravath where you wear a fancy suit isn't going to happen. most lawyers pay for their own gym-memberships, don't belong to country-clubs and they might never make six-figures in their lives. better chance in ny, chicago, boston, etc.


so remember kids, there may be VERY smart lawyers, but there are so fucking many of them now there are some pretty fucking stupid ones not making much money.

it's possible some of the better-written porn chicks could have gone to law school.




Well put, getting through law school is not the difficulty these days, it's passing the bar where the real "standards" are. If one can get through first year law, one can graduate. The bar can take a number of times to complete though. John Kennedy was a good high profile example, took several times for hime to get his skin. All that is the easy part, then you have to put in 90 hour weeks for years to become the holy grail "partner." That's when the ducats start rolling in.
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#235389 - 04/10/07 04:52 PM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
Holly Randall Offline
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I've heard that 80 percent of people who take the bar exam fail the first time. My brother is graduating from Georgetown Law next month, and then he's coming back to California to take the bar. Ugh.. I'm sticking to porn, thank you very much!
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#235390 - 04/10/07 05:01 PM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
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Registered: 01/19/07
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I've heard that 80 percent of people who take the bar exam fail the first time. My brother is graduating from Georgetown Law next month, and then he's coming back to California to take the bar. Ugh.. I'm sticking to porn, thank you very much!




As you should Holly. That's something your good at as witnessed by your site.
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#235391 - 04/10/07 07:58 PM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
Moxie Offline
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Posts: 1557
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I've heard that 80 percent of people who take the bar exam fail the first time. My brother is graduating from Georgetown Law next month, and then he's coming back to California to take the bar. Ugh.. I'm sticking to porn, thank you very much!




Holly, I don't think its quite that bad. I know that 79% PASS the NY bar and it is one of the toughest.

James is absolutely correct though. The life style of those that go to a T14 law school (Georgetown being one of them) and those that don't is remarkable. T14 grads are guaranteed a starting comp of $200K and partners average 750k & up in profits, whereas the rest can be making in the range of 50-75K and 200k as a partner. The advice I always give prospective students is if you don't get into a T14, don't go, its just too expensive (50K yr) these days to go to a lesser ranked school.
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#235392 - 04/10/07 08:53 PM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
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#235393 - 04/10/07 09:10 PM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advice...
Moxie Offline
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Registered: 06/23/06
Posts: 1557
Loc: New York
Even those of us who went to the right school and got the right job have our issues.Working 12-14 hrs day after day, weekends ..ect, arguing the most important Multinational Sub-Lateral Quantified Bi-Monthly Prospectus Agreement case
takes its toll. As a partner you get increased pressure and administrative tasks which make the hours longer still.

A good description of legal work is that its like mixing cement with your eyelashes. The people are you work with tend to be obsessive compulsive paranoid freaks. Law enforcement tends to be more rewarding, yet the compensation causes miost to go to the civil big firm side.
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#235394 - 04/10/07 09:29 PM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
Holly Randall Offline
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Posts: 1946
Loc: Outer Space
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Holly, I don't think its quite that bad. I know that 79% PASS the NY bar and it is one of the toughest.




Well I was referring to the California bar, which many of those who "would know" tell me is the hardest one. I'm sure I'll hear all about it at his graduation.
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#235395 - 04/10/07 09:42 PM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
Moxie Offline
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Registered: 06/23/06
Posts: 1557
Loc: New York
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Holly, I don't think its quite that bad. I know that 79% PASS the NY bar and it is one of the toughest.




Well I was referring to the California bar, which many of those who "would know" tell me is the hardest one. I'm sure I'll hear all about it at his graduation.




I believe 60% of first time bar takers pass. The fact that California allows students who did not attend an ABA certified law school to take the bar artifically drives the pass rate down. Its certainly one of the toughest, if not the toughest exam, but a first time taker with an history of academic success is good candidate to pass.
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#235396 - 04/10/07 09:45 PM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
Holly Randall Offline
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Holly, I don't think its quite that bad. I know that 79% PASS the NY bar and it is one of the toughest.




Well I was referring to the California bar, which many of those who "would know" tell me is the hardest one. I'm sure I'll hear all about it at his graduation.




I believe 60% of first time bar takers pass. The fact that California allows students who did not attend an ABA certified law school to take the bar artifically drives the pass rate down. Its certainly one of the toughest, if not the toughest exam, but a first time taker with an history of academic success is good candidate to pass.




That's a damn good point. I'll mention that to my brother-- if he doesn't already know that I'm sure it'll help assuage his fears. Thanks.
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#235397 - 04/10/07 09:47 PM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
Sergio T. Offline
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Holly, I don't think its quite that bad. I know that 79% PASS the NY bar and it is one of the toughest.




Well I was referring to the California bar, which many of those who "would know" tell me is the hardest one. I'm sure I'll hear all about it at his graduation.



It the hardest one to pass. My sister takes hers in November and I have a friend who took the CA one, even thou she lives in HI. She said it was very hard.
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#235398 - 04/10/07 09:53 PM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
Moxie Offline
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Loc: New York
My first bar was around 14 years ago. The wounds are still healing. People use the word miserable alot. The bar exam truly deserves that word.

My advice for those with family members going through that gauntlet is be understanding, leave them alone and just don't say anything about the exam that could possibly affect their confidence. Best luck to all of them.
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#235399 - 04/10/07 10:49 PM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
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Registered: 02/18/07
Posts: 376
CA Bar is equally difficult as a Series 7 or CPA test.

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#235400 - 04/10/07 11:04 PM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
Sergio T. Offline
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Registered: 07/20/03
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Loc: CSW Wrestling - Gracie Academy
Quote:

CA Bar is equally difficult as a Series 7 or CPA test.



Fuck, why did you have to say that? I'm going to get my Series
7 after I get Series 6/63 out of the way.
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#235401 - 04/11/07 02:53 AM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
pornlaw Offline
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Loc: California
Getting into law school isnt that hard. Staying past the 1st year is depending on the school. The harder to get in the harder it is to fail out. Average students can get in, but most fail the 1st year. If you're not coming from a solid undergrad school and have a 3.5+ gpa you're probably going to have a hard time at a decent school.

I thought law school was rather easy. There's one secret no one tells anyone -- read ahead. Professors play hide the ball, but the answers are usually found 2-3 chapters ahead of the current assignment. Once you see the bigger picture it all starts to makes sense. Dont lose the forest for the leaves.

I didnt grad from a top law school. But I was 11th in my class and on Law Review after the 1st year by simply reading ahead. Its not rocket science.

Top tier law schools are only necessary if you want to work at a big firm. You will learn the same law from the same books at a 2nd tier school that students at Ivy League schools learn.

As for the Bar Exam, again, not that hard. Most people fail not because they dont know the subject matter, they just spent 3 years learing it. What happens is that they panic, they dont rest and they second guess themselves. In California its a 3 day test - a marathon. The best advice I can give people about to take it -- pace yourself. Dont burn yourself out and study too much too soon. You should peak as you go into the test and get plenty of rest while taking it. And never discuss that day's exam with friends. Its over move on.

As for salaries, law is the original pyramid scheme. Be your own boss, have your own firm. Work as an associate and the partners make all the money. Be the partner and have your associates make you the $$$.

I like being a lawyer which is more than I can say for most of my lawyer friends.

Digging ditches, loading trucks and roofing are hard jobs, not being a lawyer.

Michael

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#235402 - 04/11/07 07:50 AM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
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She could sue me. She could sue the hell outta me.

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#235403 - 04/11/07 10:09 AM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
fuckwhore Offline
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Registered: 02/18/07
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CA Bar is so difficult LA mayor took it 4 times and failed it 4 times so he abandoned law and went into politics. (Sarcasim about bar being difficult)

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#235404 - 04/11/07 11:11 AM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
testa Offline
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Registered: 12/28/05
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Quote:

I've heard that 80 percent of people who take the bar exam fail the first time. My brother is graduating from Georgetown Law next month, and then he's coming back to California to take the bar. Ugh.. I'm sticking to porn, thank you very much!




I was going to go to law school but I dropped out to make porn

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#235405 - 04/11/07 11:23 AM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
J.B. Offline
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CA Bar is so difficult LA mayor took it 4 times and failed it 4 times so he abandoned law and went into politics. (Sarcasim about bar being difficult)




It's not sarcasm if you have to explain it.
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#235406 - 04/11/07 11:26 AM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
fuckwhore Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 02/18/07
Posts: 376
Quote:

Quote:

CA Bar is so difficult LA mayor took it 4 times and failed it 4 times so he abandoned law and went into politics. (Sarcasim about bar being difficult)




It's not sarcasm if you have to explain it.




Not everyone on this board is smart enough to know I was being sarcastic

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#235407 - 04/11/07 02:29 PM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
John Floofin Offline
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Why isn't this whipsmart young lass in here debating the finer points of pornography with us? Let her know, Pornlaw!

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#235408 - 04/11/07 04:23 PM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
zenman Offline

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Jesus Jiminy Christ how many fucking lawyers are on this board?!
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#235409 - 04/11/07 06:48 PM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
J.B. Offline
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Registered: 02/11/07
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Quote:

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CA Bar is so difficult LA mayor took it 4 times and failed it 4 times so he abandoned law and went into politics. (Sarcasim about bar being difficult)




It's not sarcasm if you have to explain it.




Not everyone on this board is smart enough to know I was being sarcastic




Dipshit, you're not even smart enough to spell "Sarcasm." Sit Down.

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#235410 - 04/11/07 06:57 PM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
fuckwhore Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 02/18/07
Posts: 376
Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

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CA Bar is so difficult LA mayor took it 4 times and failed it 4 times so he abandoned law and went into politics. (Sarcasim about bar being difficult)




It's not sarcasm if you have to explain it.




Not everyone on this board is smart enough to know I was being sarcastic




Dipshit, you're not even smart enough to spell "Sarcasm." Sit Down.






typo fuckface.

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#235411 - 04/11/07 07:01 PM Re: Don't tell me this whore is giving legal advic
J.B. Offline
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Registered: 02/11/07
Posts: 3075
Loc: cleanup
Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

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CA Bar is so difficult LA mayor took it 4 times and failed it 4 times so he abandoned law and went into politics. (Sarcasim about bar being difficult)




It's not sarcasm if you have to explain it.




Not everyone on this board is smart enough to know I was being sarcastic




Dipshit, you're not even smart enough to spell "Sarcasm." Sit Down.






typo fuckface.




Yeah, okay. Seem to make a lot of those.
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