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#400148 - 02/16/09 06:44 PM TER board owner charged
aminkia Offline
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TER board owner charged with hiring hitmen to murder well-known hobbyist

http://www.sexwork.com/terbad.html
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#400149 - 02/16/09 07:46 PM Re: TER board owner charged
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What is the backstory?
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#400150 - 02/16/09 07:56 PM Re: TER board owner charged
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#400151 - 02/16/09 08:00 PM Re: TER board owner charged
Da Burglar Offline
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"hobbyist"? WHAT THE FUCK????


Let's try this out in typical social conversation context.


Person #1 (normal): So what Hobbies do you have?

Person #2 (Pervert Deluding himself on the advice of attorney to call himself a "hobbyist"): I like to pay whores to allow me to stick my weiner in their holes and then compare and contrast the various weiner stickings on the internet. I also like Yahtzee and lawn darts.
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#400152 - 02/16/09 09:12 PM Re: TER board owner charged
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Maybe Fast Eddie, a mod a TER, can give us some insight. I think he's registered here.
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#400153 - 02/16/09 09:18 PM Re: TER board owner charged
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Quote:

What is the backstory?




Ask pornlaw,





I cannot comment on the back story. It is still an active investigation. The Phoenix District Attorney and Detectives I have talked to are still working the case. Elms, from what I understand, remains in a Phoenix jail facing serious multiple felonies.
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#400154 - 02/16/09 09:33 PM Re: TER board owner charged
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I wonder if advertising on Sirius has hurt or helped his business. I imagine he gets many more hits, but there are probably plenty of people that are going to run from the attention.
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#400155 - 02/16/09 11:23 PM Re: TER board owner charged *DELETED*
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Post deleted by gia jordan
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#400156 - 02/16/09 11:37 PM Re: TER board owner charged
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Hahahah genius reply I love you Baby G!

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#400157 - 02/17/09 01:50 AM Re: TER board owner charged
gia jordan Offline
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Hahahah genius reply I love you Baby G!




Referring to the post I deleted due to too much Belvedere and making snarky comments about what if Sirius had an escort channel. Then I actually read the article and learned about a horrible guy, David Elms, brought down TER with police attention due to his shady actions and business practices. It's all ironic because he owned TER with the purpose of it being a safe underground community for escorts and johns to talk shop and review their experiences.
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#400158 - 02/17/09 03:46 AM Re: TER board owner charged
Da Burglar Offline
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Burg's rule of thumb (or penis) when it comes to whores: Do your own homework....dont endorse or recommend, or even BLAB about real specifics with anyone unless you know and trust that person on more than a casual level. And likewise, only accept recommendations or endorsements from people you trust emphatically. TOO much shit can go wrong or happen in this sordid business (and in this fucked up world in general.)

Let me try again......I would never drop $$$ (or a load) on a bimbo based solely on something I read on a website. Just do your own homework, scouting, reconnaisance, bloodwork/tests, etc....

And I swear, the first real bonafide asshole I ever meet who actually declares himself to be a "hobbyist" to me, I'm going to stab him in the heart with a number#2 pencil. Be a fucking man about your perversions and deviant desires, dont spoil it with euphemisms.
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#400159 - 02/17/09 02:45 PM Re: TER board owner charged
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Registered: 12/26/07
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And I swear, the first real bonafide asshole I ever meet who actually declares himself to be a "hobbyist" to me, I'm going to stab him in the heart with a number#2 pencil. Be a fucking man about your perversions and deviant desires, dont spoil it with euphemisms.




Dude, there are actually escort boards out there where you get banned if you refuse to call whores "courtesans" or "companions". No joke.


Edited by Crocodile (02/17/09 02:46 PM)
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#400160 - 02/17/09 03:53 PM Re: TER board owner charged
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^^^ Ahhh, the ADT of hooking!
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#400161 - 02/17/09 05:17 PM Re: TER board owner charged
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And I swear, the first real bonafide asshole I ever meet who actually declares himself to be a "hobbyist" to me, I'm going to stab him in the heart with a number#2 pencil. Be a fucking man about your perversions and deviant desires, dont spoil it with euphemisms.




Well done!!!
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#400162 - 02/17/09 06:56 PM Re: TER board owner charged
aminkia Offline
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Registered: 01/23/08
Posts: 176
Quote:

Quote:

And I swear, the first real bonafide asshole I ever meet who actually declares himself to be a "hobbyist" to me, I'm going to stab him in the heart with a number#2 pencil. Be a fucking man about your perversions and deviant desires, dont spoil it with euphemisms.




Dude, there are actually escort boards out there where you get banned if you refuse to call whores "courtesans" or "companions". No joke.




The reason for this is that most of the escort agency or "pimps" are paying to advertise on these review site thats how they survive, so if you do a bad review of a girl and you call her slut or she has a stinky pussy, the review is deleted or you get banned. Just like burg said the best thing is to do your homeworks if you whant to "hobby"...lol
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#400163 - 02/17/09 07:06 PM Re: TER board owner charged
gia jordan Offline
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Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 14160
Loc: NYC
Quote:

Quote:

And I swear, the first real bonafide asshole I ever meet who actually declares himself to be a "hobbyist" to me, I'm going to stab him in the heart with a number#2 pencil. Be a fucking man about your perversions and deviant desires, dont spoil it with euphemisms.




I think that's more for legal reasons.

Dude, there are actually escort boards out there where you get banned if you refuse to call whores "courtesans" or "companions". No joke.


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#400164 - 02/17/09 08:24 PM Re: TER board owner charged
pinupmutant Offline
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Registered: 06/13/06
Posts: 611
This is so funny. On Friday I was talking shop with an old friend. She said what a shame it was that Elms got off the last time. I told her with his crack-addled brain and sense of entitlement it wouldn't be long before he was in jail again for something worse...and lo and behold, but a day later, he's in the clink.

When I was working, I lived in perpetual fear that I would get the phone call from him informing me that I would need to hop on the next plane to L.A. to retain my good TER standing. Thank God I wasn't his type. Nobody should underestimate the power of TER to make or break a girl's business. There are some women in niche markets who can do without if they're smart and have a good grasp of marketing, but let's face it, most sex workers are none too bright. And there are many men out there (500,000 if Elms's claims are to be believed) that will continue to patronize the system because it works for them. It's kind of weird to me that they're terrified of screening and agencies but have no problems turning their cc #s and IP addresses over to someone who I think would be very eager to cooperate to improve his present situation, but whatever.

I hope that this time, the charges will stick, but I'm not going to hold my breath. I suspect he has some kind of you scratch my back/I'll scratch yours arrangement with the Feds. The silver lining in the cloud is that, with each slap on the wrist further emboldening his behavior, eventually he'll go a step too far with someone who is an even looser cannon than he is. And then it will be curtains for Mr. Elms.

And to Burg's point, I don't understand the pride of hobbyists in self-identifying as such. As I've said before, it's like shooting fish in a barrel. There's no challenge, so all the high fives and back slapping is a little misplaced. They should take up real hobbies, like ikebana or building model trains.




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#400165 - 02/17/09 09:08 PM Re: TER board owner charged
Stevie Why Offline
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Registered: 05/16/07
Posts: 988
Loc: Sun Diego
I've never looked at TER closely so maybe someone can answer this:

How many current or recent porn stars were openly featured on it? How many from the big talent agencies like LA Direct and the rest?

I can't say I'm uber surprised to hear this; when news broke that the big talent agencies were joining together "to unionize" I figured it would be a matter of time before some big issue with porn stars escorting came up (I figured Federal tax evasion charges before anything with the Vitter/Spitzer scandals...but this is kind of fucked up beyond that level).

Given this news, I'm just surprised some of the agencies without strong escort ties (*ahem* Spieglers *cough*) would want to join up with those with strong ones (*cough* LA Direct *cough* Shy Love *margh*).

I know the talent agencies want to form some sort of coalition for negotiating industry rates, but it is worth getting caught up together with shit like this? Just seems like something ripe for a Federal RICO indictment with everyone joining up together and getting hit at once, despite how active each (if at all) are with escorting their starlets.
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#400166 - 02/17/09 09:40 PM Re: TER board owner charged
pinupmutant Offline
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Registered: 06/13/06
Posts: 611
Quote:

I've never looked at TER closely so maybe someone can answer this:

How many current or recent porn stars were openly featured on it? How many from the big talent agencies like LA Direct and the rest?

I can't say I'm uber surprised to hear this; when news broke that the big talent agencies were joining together "to unionize" I figured it would be a matter of time before some big issue with porn stars escorting came up (I figured Federal tax evasion charges before anything with the Vitter/Spitzer scandals...but this is kind of fucked up beyond that level).

Given this news, I'm just surprised some of the agencies without strong escort ties (*ahem* Spieglers *cough*) would want to join up with those with strong ones (*cough* LA Direct *cough* Shy Love *margh*).

I know the talent agencies want to form some sort of coalition for negotiating industry rates, but it is worth getting caught up together with shit like this? Just seems like something ripe for a Federal RICO indictment with everyone joining up together and getting hit at once, despite how active each (if at all) are with escorting their starlets.





Maybe I'm missing something here, but I don't see the connection between Elms getting arresting and adult talent agencies linking up to unionize.

To answer your questions, many current and recent porn stars are openly featured on it. As for how many are represented by LA Direct, do a search of their porn board. I think you'll find that porn stars who *don't* escort are in the minority.

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/messageList.asp?boardID=23


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#400167 - 02/17/09 10:01 PM Re: TER board owner charged
Stevie Why Offline
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Registered: 05/16/07
Posts: 988
Loc: Sun Diego
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Maybe I'm missing something here, but I don't see the connection between Elms getting arresting and adult talent agencies linking up to unionize.




Yeah, its a bit obscure, but the last thing the escort and talent agency business needed was a story like this that will probably bring a lot of heat.If everything on the original link is true, its legal, civil and criminal crap happening at the local, state and Federal levels.

You said above that you don't think it would be below him to have an arrangement with the Feds; if thats the case you don't think he wouldn't try selling someone out? Or even all the names that may come up in a criminal or civil trial from someone who already posted details like that on a website?

I just think there could easily be *a lot* of collateral damage with something like this.

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