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#289878 - 12/07/07 04:04 PM Hugh Hefner: Naughty or not?
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Hugh Hefner helped make the world of porn possible, but has he outlived his usefulness?

http://www.thenaughtyamerican.com/2007/Entertainment/TV/12/07/Hugh-Hefner-Naughty-Or-Not-884.html

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#289879 - 12/07/07 04:14 PM Re: Hugh Hefner: Naughty or not?
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Hefner (Hugh) as well as Flynt (Larry) have BOTH surpassed any usefulness to the adult industry.


They are but remnants of a bygone era.

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#289880 - 12/07/07 04:19 PM Re: Hugh Hefner: Naughty or not?
Willie D Offline

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Registered: 09/20/05
Posts: 9181
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Behind the walls of his fabled Playboy Mansion, he is as close as you can get in this country to royalty.




"Royalty" doesn't have to pay rent on their pad. From PEI's most recent annual report.

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Under a 1979 lease entered into with Mr. Hefner, the annual rent Mr.
Hefner pays to us for his use of the Playboy Mansion is determined by
independent experts who appraise the value of Mr. Hefner's basic accommodations
and access to the Playboy Mansion's facilities, utilities and attendant services
based on comparable hotel accommodations. In addition, Mr. Hefner is required to
pay the sum of the per-unit value of non-business meals, beverages and other
benefits he and his personal guests receive. These standard food and beverage
per-unit values are determined by independent expert appraisals based on fair
market values. Valuations for both basic accommodations and standard food and
beverage units are reappraised every three years and are annually adjusted
between appraisals based on appropriate consumer price indexes. Mr. Hefner is
also responsible for the cost of all improvements in any Hefner residence
accommodations, including capital expenditures, that are in excess of normal
maintenance for those areas.




http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1072341/000116923207001453/d71200_10-k.txt

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#289881 - 12/08/07 11:02 AM Re: Hugh Hefner: Naughty or not?
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Hugh Hefner helped make the world of porn possible, but has he outlived his usefulness?




No.

A long time ago, Charles Schulz created the "Peanuts" comic strip. He was very innovative: He created child characters who spoke intelligently and had real problems. He came up with animals who think and created the convention where somebody writes on paper and the words appear at the top of the panel.

In time, his innovations were adopted into comics in general and "Peanuts" was no longer a trendsetter.

Hugh Hefner is in the same situation. The girl-next-door as nude model was Hefner's innovation, and so was the casual sexuality that he encouraged. We all caught up with Hef -- and for most people reading this, the job was done before you were born -- so he doesn't seem innovative any more.

And maybe he isn't.

But as a pioneer in the sexual revolution, he deserves our respect. Because without him, things could have developed in a completely different direction.

--t
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#289882 - 12/08/07 11:21 AM Re: Hugh Hefner: Naughty or not?
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Quote:

Quote:

Hugh Hefner helped make the world of porn possible, but has he outlived his usefulness?




No.


But as a pioneer in the sexual revolution, he deserves our respect. Because without him, things could have developed in a completely different direction.
--t




Like what direction? It's not like people didnt fuck or debauchery was never invented prior to Hef...girl next door? Before TV and radio People fucked their neighbors, their neighbors pets, their sisters, aunts, etc because that was all there was to do besides plow fields and build shit...Hef perhaps was a pioneer in the publishing arena in making money off nude women via the relatively new media known as magazines. But I dont give him much credit for anything else ....
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#289883 - 12/08/07 11:38 AM Re: Hugh Hefner: Naughty or not?
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Registered: 10/26/07
Posts: 538
Loc: Canada
The man is a legend from times past and deserves our respect and praise .
In my opinion all the lines he crossed at his time were far more important then sometimes he is given credit for. Especially in such a sexually ass-backwards country as the u.s.

Of course hes gone a little soft and just drifts around in a fantasy world surrounded by bimbos, yet we are still envious lol
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#289884 - 12/10/07 02:02 PM Re: Hugh Hefner: Naughty or not?
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Registered: 12/28/05
Posts: 662
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The man is a legend from times past and deserves our respect and praise .
In my opinion all the lines he crossed at his time were far more important then sometimes he is given credit for. Especially in such a sexually ass-backwards country as the u.s.

Of course hes gone a little soft and just drifts around in a fantasy world surrounded by bimbos, yet we are still envious lol




Still???

Dude that's WHY we're envious. Oh to be a financially secure geriatric, living in a mansion and pampered by hot girls!!!
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#289885 - 12/10/07 05:02 PM Re: Hugh Hefner: Naughty or not?
Willie D Offline

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Registered: 09/20/05
Posts: 9181
The dislike for Hef is not that he's old and can afford enough Viagra to bang three stupid whores, it's that his "empire" is so transparent. Hef lived like a hermit for the first 20 years of the mag's run, partly because he had to shovel all the profits back into it to keep it growing. Hef didn't start "living large" until he took the company public and made that jack off the investing public. When the company was bleeding money a few years ago, he gave some of it back to them as a debenture, only to have to covert the debt back into stock, which he again is doling out to the investing public.

PLA is a horribly run company whose vision can only stare back onto its past achievements. In the early 90s, PLA traded for around $9.50/share. It closed today at $9.65. Adjusting for 3% inflation annually, it's now worth about $4.30 and pays no dividend. Hefner is the Jeff Bezos of porn.

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#289886 - 12/10/07 05:10 PM Re: Hugh Hefner: Naughty or not?
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Registered: 08/26/03
Posts: 8160
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I read an article a year or two ago about some reporter's visit to the Playboy mansion, and she said it was pretty sad. She talked about the dirty 70s style shag carpet, and how Hef still has the room full of old pinball machines...a Norma Desmond for our times.
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