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#13800 - 01/16/04 06:30 PM The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on KSEX
The Outsider Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 08/06/03
Posts: 214
Loc: Calipornia
Here is a copy of a letter I've sent to Mr. Luke Ford.

Apparently, Chasey Lain is supposed to appear on the KSEX radio show on Monday night.

Since many of you suggested Mr. Ford and I are the same person, it might be a good idea to put this rumor to rest.

I'd also like to show my support for Ms. Lain.

If I get a chance to call in, I'm sure KSEX's call board will blow up due to the response. I apologize in advance.

THE LETTER:

Mr. Luke Ford:

As I'm sure you've noticed, there seem to be a number of people who think the two of us are the same person.

I have a solution for this that would prove both educational and entertaining.

Chasey Lain is supposed to appear on the KSEX radio show Monday night.

Using your magical powers, it would be wonderful to appear with you on the show.

I'd love to show my support for this young woman, who has been treated so unfairly by the industry that made her.

I can assure you, my comments will anger most, if not all, of the general listening porn public, and should garner a very good rating for the time slot of the show.

If we appear at the same time, we could also put the speculation to rest that we are the same person.

Please tell Mr. Wankus, if you speak to him, that I will call in when he asks me too.

Problem is, I've never listened to his show, so I don't have the number and don't know when he's on.

Is KSEX on the internet, or AM radio?

I'm going to post this email in a new thread on xxx.porntalk.com so Gen Padova can get all fired up for Monday night.

She loves me, ya know.

But more importantly, I'd love to show my support for Chasey Lain, and, in a calculated way, castrate all the amoral creeps in the business who enable her behavior, and then try to write her off.

If your magical powers prove effective, it would also be nice to talk to you.

You happen to be the only person I respect in the industry, and I would be honored to tell you that, live and on the air.

Sincerely,

The Outsider

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#13801 - 01/16/04 07:17 PM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on KSEX
Owen S Mouth Offline
Gay For Pay

Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 1043
Loc: Warsaw, Poland
Outsider,
Nobody thinks you're Luke Ford. It was a mere thought for a nano second, yet it passed like a fart through a gaping asshole.
While I don't dislike you, I certainly wouldn't give much in the way of credibility....especially after your first thread - the one I'll always remember you for:
http://www.xxxporntalk.com//ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=talent&Number=3970&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1
Whatever happened to the 'reality' show that you and your wife were supposed to star in?

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#13802 - 01/16/04 07:41 PM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on
zenman Offline

Porn Jesus

Registered: 08/26/03
Posts: 8160
Loc: Roma, Repubblica Italiana
LOL I remember that thread!! That wanksta came in with some ho cake thinkin he was hardcore wreckin....and got schooled yo.
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#13803 - 01/16/04 08:43 PM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on KSEX
Ozzie Offline
AC Cream Wannabe

Registered: 12/29/03
Posts: 538
Loc: Australia
Oh no, not this again.....
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#13804 - 01/16/04 09:43 PM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on KSEX
Owen S Mouth Offline
Gay For Pay

Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 1043
Loc: Warsaw, Poland
Sorry Aussie Dan, but it is 'this' again. It is now obvious to me that The Outsider is in dire need of attention and is now trying to parlay his 'controversial' posts into some sort of publicity stunt on KSEX.

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#13805 - 01/16/04 09:49 PM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on KSEX
Steven Millan Offline
Bukkake Boy

Registered: 04/18/03
Posts: 706
Loc: Las Vegas
Hey,Outsider,I thought that you were no longer going to be posting here on this board.
As far as yourself wanting any massive attention,Gen's trashing of you a few days ago just got posted at your dream buddy Lukey Ford(Duke Floored)'s new site adultbeat.
Hope you're joyfully happy about this news,pal!!!

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#13806 - 01/16/04 11:04 PM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on KSEX
Ozzie Offline
AC Cream Wannabe

Registered: 12/29/03
Posts: 538
Loc: Australia
Quote:

Sorry Aussie Dan, but it is 'this' again. It is now obvious to me that The Outsider is in dire need of attention and is now trying to parlay his 'controversial' posts into some sort of publicity stunt on KSEX.




I would hope that KSEX are above that kind of juvenile crap.
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#13807 - 01/16/04 11:07 PM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on KSEX
M Lyons Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 237
Loc: UNPAID MODERATOR
Who is Luke Ford?
M Lyons.
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#13808 - 01/17/04 12:26 AM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on KSEX
Sergio T. Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 07/20/03
Posts: 5256
Loc: CSW Wrestling - Gracie Academy
How can you ask to be on KSEX when you dont even know the URL? Here, I'm making it easier for you, www.ksexradio.com
I do hope you can actually get on, just for the comic relief.
www.exquisitemenu.com
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#13809 - 01/17/04 12:53 AM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on
The Outsider Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 08/06/03
Posts: 214
Loc: Calipornia
Thanks for the link, Chico.

I'm sure I'll be entertaining.

I have a surprise up my sleeve, too, if they actually invite me on.

It's something wonderful.

Of course, I'll have to keep it a secret until then.

For the moment, I'll be saying a prayer for Chasey.

She's the one who needs the attention, not me.

I'm just here to help.

The Outsider

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#13810 - 01/17/04 06:03 PM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on
Owen S Mouth Offline
Gay For Pay

Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 1043
Loc: Warsaw, Poland
The only 'suprise' with you is the fact that you have the balls to post here.
I'll ask you again, what happened to the reality show that you and your pear shaped wife were supposed to star in?

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#13811 - 01/17/04 11:34 PM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on
The Outsider Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 08/06/03
Posts: 214
Loc: Calipornia
Owen:

After finding out that most porn people have herpes, my wife and I freaked out, since it is isn't even tested for.

Thus, the movie we were going to do fell by the wayside.

I'm not going to tell you who the company was, because you could get my personal information from them.

You'll just have to trust that I'm telling you the Truth.

If you folks in porn valley ever make Full Panel Tests, including a test for Herpes, the norm, and it is accepted and enforced by all major studios...

...then my wife and I might decide to give it a whirl.

Until then, we will do what we have always done.

We find a girl, get tested together, share our results, and have a monogamous three person relationship.

Sorry Owen...

...I happen to enjoy my very low health care premiums, since neither of us have, or have had, any diseases.

If you can find us a movie studio that asks for, and requires Full Panel Tests, and a very pretty girl who can pass one, we'd think about doing a movie.

I'd fucking love to do porn. I really would.

But I also like putting my underwear on without any burning, bleeding, or itching sensations.

If the rules of porn ever change, or a new company comes along that advertises 'Disease Free Porn Stars'...

...we'd love to give it a shot.

UPDATE ON THIS THREAD:

Luke has informed me that he'd rather stay in the background, and won't be appearing on the KSEX Radio show.

It also looks like, from the KSEX site, that Chasey Lain isn't booked on Monday night. There's no story, or ad, about her being scheduled for an appearance.

Maybe you'll get to hear my voice some other time.

The surprise I had for all of you was going to be my wife.

We were going to say hello together, so you'd all finally realize that she actually does exist.

By the way, that girl I know...

She thought it was HYSTERICAL that all of you thought I was lying about the existence of my beautiful wife, and our lives. She laughed her head off.

She thought the dude that kept calling her my 'invisible' wife, or my 'blow up doll wife' was hysterical.

That guy is Jeff Steward.

Just thought I'd let ya know.

The Outsider



Edited by The Outsider (01/17/04 11:37 PM)

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#13812 - 01/18/04 09:33 AM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on
It Was Fun Offline
aka Gen Padova
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/20/03
Posts: 4517
YOU KNOW WHAT??

Even if you did have herpes you wouldn't test positive for it unless you have an outbreak...!!!!

SO YOU CAN TAKE YOUR LOW PREMIUM HEALTH COVERAGE AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR MOTHER FUCKIN ASS AND ENJOY IT TIL DEATH DOES YOUR PARTING WITH YOUR PISS HOLE WIFE!

YOU ARE WALKING BACTERIA AND THATS A FACT SO FUCK OFF SOME MORE YOU IGNORANT PIECE OF INFESTED SHIT!

GOOD BYE!

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#13813 - 01/18/04 09:45 AM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on
Steph the Whore Offline
Rob Black's Crack Pipe

Registered: 05/10/03
Posts: 55
Loc: In Drews Ass
Quote:

YOU KNOW WHAT??

Even if you did have herpes you wouldn't test positive for it unless you have an outbreak...!!!!

SO YOU CAN TAKE YOUR LOW PREMIUM HEALTH COVERAGE AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR MOTHER FUCKIN ASS AND ENJOY IT TIL DEATH DOES YOUR PARTING WITH YOUR PISS HOLE WIFE!

YOU ARE WALKING BACTERIA AND THATS A FACT SO FUCK OFF SOME MORE YOU IGNORANT PIECE OF INFESTED SHIT!

GOOD BYE!




I love you Gen

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#13814 - 01/18/04 10:54 AM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on
The Outsider Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 08/06/03
Posts: 214
Loc: Calipornia
Walking bacteria?

Isn't that a bit backwards?

You're the one who's done a gazillion films in an industry that has 66% of it's performers infected with Herpes.

At least, that's the figure according to Sharon Mitchell.

As for not testing positive unless there's an outbreak...

There's a brand new test getting ready to make it's debut that can show whether or not a person has Herpes, even if they don't have an outbreak.

Of course, that test won't amount to a hill of beans since none of you want to implement it. Job protection will beat out safety, most likely, at least until the State moves in to enforce it.

Are you under the impression that Herpes is only transmittable when an outbreak occurs? If you are, you're simply dead wrong, by the way. You may need to go check the latest Herpes research to update your antiquated theology.

From the AIM home page:

"Talent will now be required to test monthly not only for HIV, but for also chlamydia and gonorrhea, with the majority of the industry already on board for the proposal. When talent goes in for their HIV testing, they will also be asked to give a urine sample for chlamydia and gonorrhea testing. Test results will available for all three tests within a day or two. The discounted price to talent for all three tests is $100.

Syphilis testing will be required of all new people entering the industry, and will be required every six months after that. Syphilis testing will be free, a service provided by the County.

The new requirements are a result of an investigation launched by the County Board of Supervisors regarding the dangers of STD's in the adult industry.

AIM is endorsed by the Los Angeles County Health Department and is working diligently with them and the Industry. There will be more regulations to come and it's AIM's goal to make sure the Industry will make the transition into meeting state regulations effortlessly."

Nothing in there about Herpes, unfortunately.

By the way, Gen, I made a new thread, just for you.

I called it 'Just For The Record...my take on Gen Padova'.

Please feel free to attack and slander me there.

The Outsider



Edited by The Outsider (01/18/04 10:59 AM)

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#13815 - 01/18/04 11:36 AM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on
It Was Fun Offline
aka Gen Padova
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/20/03
Posts: 4517
Even if you don't have an STD, Disease or cancer you still have bacteria within your body. Get a fuckin clue. I thought you were smart enough to know that.

This second method for determining a herpes infection that you're talking about so highly called the Immunigloben Herpes Virus Detection isn't as effective as you think.

It's much more expensive which costs up to at least a couple hundreds of dollars that your medical insurance usually won't cover.

It's a blood test to check for certain levels of antibodies in the blood. The specific tests involve checking titer levels of each immunoglobin, with each being representative of either an old infection or a relatively new infection.

The test includes Herpes Simplex Virus, IgG and IgM (immunoglobin)and serology tests. And more than 50% give misleading results and not only that but it's hard to distinguish an old or new infection. Especially when you can't necessarily determine what qualifies as an old infection and a new one.

You're sole purpose to throw this bullshit is to make you look like you know it all especially with herpes because you solely believe there's a 100% way around herpes simplex and you're wrong. You're so caught up in making yourself look good when you dont know shit. Other than what you read, why don't you do some experiments yourself and see if you really trust everything that you read.

NOW YOU WONDER WHY I HAVE SO MUCH HOSTILITY TOWARDS YOU?! OR ANY ONE THAT IS FLAT OUT STUPID? JESUS CHRIST, BY ALL MEAN PLEASE JUST JUMP TO THE CHASE AND KILL YOURSELF ALREADY! YOUR LITTLE SELFISH SELF WOULD BE DOING YOURSELF A FAVOR MORE ThAN ANYONE OF US.

I SUGGEST YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP AND KEEP FUCKING THOSE NEW WHORES EVERY WEEK CAUSE I CAN GUARANTEE AT LEAST A FEW OUT OF THOSE MANY YOU NAILED HAD HERPES.

SO YOU"RE NOT SO DIFFERENT FRON THE REST OF US IN THE BUSINESS. ITS JUST TOO DAMN BAD I COULDN"T CAPTURE YOUR LAME ASS ON FILM FUCKING THAT ONE GIRL THAT GAVE YOU HERPES. THE MEMORIES WOULD HAVE BROUGHT TOO MUCH JOY TO MY LIFE.




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#13816 - 01/18/04 12:53 PM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on
Owen S Mouth Offline
Gay For Pay

Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 1043
Loc: Warsaw, Poland
Outsider,
I remeber in your old threads how you used to boast about sharing your bed with countless women - including porn stars. Were you testing these women? Did you take them to a clinic prior to bedding them?
You're a fake. You have zero credibility and the real reason Luke Ford won't appear with you is becuase your worthless and have nothing of interest to say.

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#13817 - 01/18/04 12:59 PM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on
Owen S Mouth Offline
Gay For Pay

Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 1043
Loc: Warsaw, Poland
In This Post Outsider Talks About How He And His 'Wife' (a wife he married at 16) Have Bedded Quite A Few Honies.
Again, Were You Testing Here Buddy?

----------------------------------------------------

Hi there...

PLEASE SEE ATTACHED PICTURE.

This is a real, sincere letter from a real couple living in Huntington Beach, CA.

We have been married almost ten years.

We got married when she was 16, and he was 26, in Las Vegas, NV.

As a couple we have had well over 300 girls share our bed.

300 BEAUTIFUL girls, that is.

For a long, long time, we have declined offers to shoot porn. Yes, we have had offers.

However- recently, a girlfriend of ours entered the jizz biz...

...and it really, really, really fucking PISSED US OFF.

Yeah, we liked her a lot. So should we forgive, and forget?

Nah, fuck that.

We want REVENGE.

Revenge, as you know, is a highly motivating factor...especially in sex.

Do we know how to fuck?

You bet your ass we do.

Do we know how to fuck pretty girls?

You bet your ass we do.

Are we exciting to watch with other girls?

You bet your ass we are.

We can't include shots of us with other girls, because the other girls we know don't want to do porn.

We shot a set of 9 pics for a couple of very nice people named Nicole Sheridan and Voodoo.

Yes, they liked them, and we hope you will like them too.

We don't have any diseases. We don't have any addictions. We are both well educated...

...and we would like to use USE OUR REAL NAMES AND REAL INDENTITIES.

Why would we like to use our REAL NAMES?

1)We want revenge. 2)We have nothing to hide. 3)We fuck pretty girls so well that they ask if they can move in. 4) We do not lie.

Besides all that...

...we have a damn interesting story to tell.

Just wait until you hear about the careers we have, and have had...

...These ain't no dummies here, yo...

...Our story is a story that would SELL...with a real couple that likes to FUCK PRETTY GIRLS.

...and does it WELL.

Shit, just translating a few of our real life encounters into videos would sell buttloads of tapes...and that ain't no bullshit.

We aren't crazy- we just want revenge.

And what better way to get it- than to fuck pretty girls-

...in every position- and every way possible...on VIDEO.

A real couple, using their real names, available to do interviews with MAINSTREAM MEDIA and hiding NOTHING.

No fear, baby... no fear at all.

Excited yet?

Think about the press...

Yummy, huh?

We look forward to hearing from you soon...

We are only interested in working with MAJOR directors, for MAJOR studios.

Thanks...

Michael
email: friends@vzavenue.net
Huntington Beach, CA

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#13818 - 01/18/04 02:33 PM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on
keiko Offline
Rob Black's Crack Pipe

Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 122
Loc: the valley
*applauds Gen.

this guy is totally whacked in the head, and has no idea what hes talking about... not to mention being an uber-creepy stalker.

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#13819 - 01/18/04 02:49 PM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on
The Outsider Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 08/06/03
Posts: 214
Loc: Calipornia
Yes Owen, that was a pretty stupid post on my part.

I've learned a lot since then.

First, we definitely don't want to get 'revenge' any more.

That was just me being a moron.

Second, the girl we know is now out of the industry, dating, and getting back to having a somewhat normal life.

Luckily, she came out of it without any problems.

Of course, I can't verify that, and I have to go by what she tells us.

About the 300 girls...

...that isn't a lie.

That post was written in about July of 2003, and yeah, you folks here have certainly taught us a lot.

Back then, I had this really silly idea that porn was a safe place to have sex on camera with other attractive people, with little or no long-term side effects.

Man was I wrong.

Thank God I took the time to do some research before I jumped in with my wife, who probably would have cut my nuts off if we'd done a movie, like Marey Carey, and got Herpes our first time out. At least that's the rumor about Ms. Carey, so I don't know if it's true.

Thus, I apologize for that extremely naive post.

Chalk it up to stupidity, which is part of the learning experience.

As for Gen's lovely comments...

You have a point.

Maybe we got lucky before.

However, the girls we have relationships with are girls we've usually known for a while. By a while, I mean months.

Through the course of months, while we're 'courting' I guess, we get to know a girl before we get together with her. In that time, girls let things slip.

And we listen.

Before we ever go get tested, we already know who she's seen, slept with recently, and whether or not she has any 'odd' symptoms. Most of the time, if a girl has something, she usually tells us before we ever go get tested. Then, we just remain friends with her.

We aren't people who just 'jump in'. You'll never see us at the Entertainium, either. We went there once, just to look around. We prefer to be safe and wait until we know someone.

When I wrote that letter, the girl we know had told us that 'in the industry' she 'gets tested' and therefore 'can't get a disease.'

That's how it was presented to her, by some of you wonderful people, at least.

So, I guess I bought into it, too.

Why would anyone mislead her, I thought?

I didn't realize until August, when the big outbreaks of Gonnorea and Syphillis and Chlamydia were going around, that she had been mislead.

When I found out how the testing REALLY works, I did the best I could to get a hold of that girl, so I could tell her.

I got a hold of her, and I told her.

She was horrified.

She'd already done a ton of movies and had a bunch of boxcovers. She is now celibate, waiting to meet the 'right guy', and when she does, wants to take him to get a Full Panel Test if things go farther.

I'm glad I made a difference in her life.

She's a great person, I'm still totally crazy about her, and she deserves all the best things life has to offer.

Anyway Gen, I have always used a condom with the girls we've been with. Knowing what I now know, however, I guess we got lucky. I never knew, until last August, that Herpes could be transmitted without detectable sores. That blew me away.

To find out that 66% of people in the porn industry have Herpes...shit man, that just scared the fuck out of us.

Talk about a sacrifice.

And all you get is a few measly thousand dollars?

Christ, I make that in a couple of transactions, and I don't have to get fucking Herpes. Ouch.

It just don't seem like a fair trade to me.

Now that I know what I know, we're smarter about who we sleep with.

So, that takes care of me, Gen.

What drives me nuts with you is that you are SUPPORTING the way the industry currently works.

If I was a performer, I'd be scared shitless about all those STD's. I'd also be pretty fucking mad at the person that got me into it, who didn't give me the whole story.

I guess once you're in the industry, and you get all those STD's, you're just sort of fucked.

You're like a vampire, it seems.

When you get all those diseases, you're stuck in the life for good now. It's like the other vampires sucker you into it, saying, 'come with us, it's eternal life, you'll love it!...'

...and then you get in, get all that shit, and realize you can't get out.

Just like vampires.

As to the suggestion that I kill myself, or that I already have Herpes...neither one are true, or will ever be.

I'm fully alive, and happy I avoided screwing up myself and my wife by jumping in to something that could have made us vampires.

More than that...

...I really, really appreciate waking up in the morning WITHOUT any sores or itching. I'm glad I didn't fuck us up. If we couldn't have had a child, our own child, I would have been really fucked us up, too.

I'm not against what you do, Gen.

I just think that instead of supporting the way things are, you should be voicing your opinion about how to change stuff.

You really don't make any sense.

It's like, you talk about how great this life is, then you acknowledge that there are terrible problems with it, then, instead of doing something about those problems...

...you go off on me.

I'm an easy target.

The Outsider






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#13820 - 01/18/04 02:55 PM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on
Rob Longshot Offline
Chronic Masturbator

Registered: 12/22/03
Posts: 1715
Loc: Everything for the people, not...
Quote:

Thank God I took the time to do some research before I jumped in with my wife, who probably would have cut my nuts off if we'd done a movie, like Marey Carey, and got Herpes our first time out. At least that's the rumor about Ms. Carey, so I don't know if it's true




get the story straight, Mary caught Gonorrhea during her first Boy/Girl scene... not herpes. by the way, if you are going to preach about disaeses... learn to spell the names.
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#13821 - 01/18/04 03:51 PM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on
The Outsider Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 08/06/03
Posts: 214
Loc: Calipornia
That's right.

I forgot.

Nobody officially has anything, or if they do, it's always something that's not Herpes.

Thanks for the correction.

Look, I don't really care if you people make the choice to take what I think of as a really risky chance.

It's up to you.

What really bothers me, though, is subjecting 18 year old girls to this shit without an honest, forthright warning and explanation.

That's what sets me off.

Maybe you folks don't mind Herpes, and all the meds you have to buy. That's fine. You see it as just fine with you.

But an 18 year old, fresh out of taking her S.A.T's, is simply not as adept as some of you more experienced people when it comes to spotting flaws in the machine.

Christ, I wrote that stupid fucking post, and I'm 36. I didn't know all that stuff, and I've got a damn Masters degree.

That's really the gist of my gripe.

I think these young women need to be protected.

Sue me.

The Outsider

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#13822 - 01/18/04 04:19 PM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on
smutspov Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 10/29/03
Posts: 9489
you should start a website, hand out flyers at the conventions, put ads in the LA Xpress, go on Oprah or whatever.... I think you made your point here. I hate a lot of things about some pornographers, but people have gotta take responsibility for their own choices even naive high school dropouts or college girls. If these girls don't want to take the time to ask questions first or think about the risks involved theres' nothing you can do for them. When I was younger I thought about all the ramifications before I did my first line or dropped my first tab. Nobody could prepare me for what came next. If some dopey bimbo can't think for herself about the possible dangers that come with doing drugs and porn then it was her resposibility to herself that she neglected. Sure now I know what little I knew back then, but at least I looked before I leapt...
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#13823 - 01/18/04 05:06 PM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on
Rob Longshot Offline
Chronic Masturbator

Registered: 12/22/03
Posts: 1715
Loc: Everything for the people, not...
all i can say...
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#13824 - 01/18/04 08:43 PM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on
The Outsider Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 08/06/03
Posts: 214
Loc: Calipornia
Smutmutant:

You make a good point. Yes, people do have to take responsibility for themselves.

Problem is, there's this thing called 'morality'.

You might think that by saying the things I say, I'm somehow against porn.

I'm not.

Not at all.

Porn is wonderful. I, like so many other millions of people, happen to love porn. I'm not ashamed to admit it, and, if I had to stand up in front of a crowd, even here in my very conservative town, I'd say there are definite benefits.

That being said, it's hard for me to reconcile my love for porn with my fear for the safety of it's performers.

Oddly enough, I'm getting the crap kicked out of me on this board...

...by performers.

That's odd, and slightly wrong-headed.

I guess they come at me with knives out because they know the entire industry reads everything I post, and people love to hate me.

On the other hand, I think the performers are mad at me because I'm pointing out flaws they didn't think about when they got started. In hindsight, many of them probably wished they'd been a complete moron, like I've been, and stumbled around a bit more.

I'm glad I took the time to say stupid things, and get 'schooled'.

I'm not embarrassed at all.

The other reason I think many performers take me on is because they know directors and owners and investors and fans come here. Even though they know I'm on their side, it benefits them- in the short run- to tell me to go 'kill myself'.

I'm not a big fan of unions, as unions tend to get greedy and fat and lose sight of the real reason they exist.

But in this world, the world of porn, these people sure could use a union.

Every time she beats the crap out of me, Gen Padova gets props from the people she works for. You don't have to be a genius to figure that out.

On the other hand, privately, I'm sure that all the Gen Padova's and John Johnson's secretly hope that my rants will have an impact, so their jobs can be safer.

Of course, they aren't going to tell me that on this board, in front of their bosses.

But their bosses have something to fear, too.

It's called the 'American Class-Action Lawsuit'.

As far as I know, there is no precedent, or statute, set for safety measures in porn in the legal arena.

I don't think anyone's tried it yet.

The reason that the bosses should regulate themselves on these issues, the issues of drugs and STD's, is that they could find themselves in legal hot water years down the line if they don't.

I would hate to see that happen.

If I was running a porn company, I'd be the FIRST to implement Full Panel Tests. I'd also advertise it, right there on my lovely boxcover.

'NO PORN ANIMALS WERE HURT OR DESTROYED DURING THE MAKING OF THIS VIDEO'...it might read.

Somewhere on the back cover, I'd put a little disclaimer on it, talking about how NONE of the performers in my video walked away with any diseases or drug addictions due to the shooting of the feature.

Then, I'd advertise myself as being a 'responsible' maker of porn.

Car companies, who once HATED the idea of AIRBAGS now use the inclusion of AIRBAGS as a SELLING POINT.

And guess what?

The public LOVES IT, and is now more prone to buy cars that are SAFE, than cars that are NOT SAFE.

Thus, given my logic, for a slight up-front investment, any given porn maker would eventually reap PROFITS from selling a SAFELY MADE PRODUCT.

The public, yes, even the porn public, pays attention to stuff like this.

If I had the option of buying a video that had my disclaimer on it, so I could watch my porn GUILT FREE...

...I would buy it in a heartbeat.

If, and when, porn makers adopt these ideas, porn will also enjoy a REVOLUTION, which would also be profitable.

Could you imagine how much America, and the world, would love a porn industry that takes care of it's performers?

If they'd stop yelling at me, and listen to what I'm saying, they'd see I'm not some jerk trying to bring people down.

I'm actually on their side.

I don't want to see porn makers get sued, and I don't want to see the lovely 18 year olds get hurt.

Is that so wrong?

Are those the ramblings of a lunatic?

The Outsider

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#13825 - 01/18/04 08:53 PM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on
Pornstar2pac Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 380
Loc: ADT 24/7
Quote:

Smutmutant:

You make a good point. Yes, people do have to take responsibility for themselves.

Problem is, there's this thing called 'morality'.

You might think that by saying the things I say, I'm somehow against porn.

I'm not.

Not at all.

Porn is wonderful. I, like so many other millions of people, happen to love porn. I'm not ashamed to admit it, and, if I had to stand up in front of a crowd, even here in my very conservative town, I'd say there are definite benefits.

That being said, it's hard for me to reconcile my love for porn with my fear for the safety of it's performers.

Oddly enough, I'm getting the crap kicked out of me on this board...

...by performers.

That's odd, and slightly wrong-headed.

I guess they come at me with knives out because they know the entire industry reads everything I post, and people love to hate me.

On the other hand, I think the performers are mad at me because I'm pointing out flaws they didn't think about when they got started. In hindsight, many of them probably wished they'd been a complete moron, like I've been, and stumbled around a bit more.

I'm glad I took the time to say stupid things, and get 'schooled'.

I'm not embarrassed at all.

The other reason I think many performers take me on is because they know directors and owners and investors and fans come here. Even though they know I'm on their side, it benefits them- in the short run- to tell me to go 'kill myself'.

I'm not a big fan of unions, as unions tend to get greedy and fat and lose sight of the real reason they exist.

But in this world, the world of porn, these people sure could use a union.

Every time she beats the crap out of me, Gen Padova gets props from the people she works for. You don't have to be a genius to figure that out.

On the other hand, privately, I'm sure that all the Gen Padova's and John Johnson's secretly hope that my rants will have an impact, so their jobs can be safer.

Of course, they aren't going to tell me that on this board, in front of their bosses.

But their bosses have something to fear, too.

It's called the 'American Class-Action Lawsuit'.

As far as I know, there is no precedent, or statute, set for safety measures in porn in the legal arena.

I don't think anyone's tried it yet.

The reason that the bosses should regulate themselves on these issues, the issues of drugs and STD's, is that they could find themselves in legal hot water years down the line if they don't.

I would hate to see that happen.

If I was running a porn company, I'd be the FIRST to implement Full Panel Tests. I'd also advertise it, right there on my lovely boxcover.

'NO PORN ANIMALS WERE HURT OR DESTROYED DURING THE MAKING OF THIS VIDEO'...it might read.

Somewhere on the back cover, I'd put a little disclaimer on it, talking about how NONE of the performers in my video walked away with any diseases or drug addictions due to the shooting of the feature.

Then, I'd advertise myself as being a 'responsible' maker of porn.

Car companies, who once HATED the idea of AIRBAGS now use the inclusion of AIRBAGS as a SELLING POINT.

And guess what?

The public LOVES IT, and is now more prone to buy cars that are SAFE, than cars that are NOT SAFE.

Thus, given my logic, for a slight up-front investment, any given porn maker would eventually reap PROFITS from selling a SAFELY MADE PRODUCT.

The public, yes, even the porn public, pays attention to stuff like this.

If I had the option of buying a video that had my disclaimer on it, so I could watch my porn GUILT FREE...

...I would buy it in a heartbeat.

If, and when, porn makers adopt these ideas, porn will also enjoy a REVOLUTION, which would also be profitable.

Could you imagine how much America, and the world, would love a porn industry that takes care of it's performers?

If they'd stop yelling at me, and listen to what I'm saying, they'd see I'm not some jerk trying to bring people down.

I'm actually on their side.

I don't want to see porn makers get sued, and I don't want to see the lovely 18 year olds get hurt.

Is that so wrong?

Are those the ramblings of a lunatic?

The Outsider






Is this thread for the who can write a longer boring post or review? I know the "M Lyons Longest Review Challenge" is next month and I want to enter it this year. So good luck everyone as I feel he has some real competition this year by reading this thread.
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#13826 - 01/18/04 08:58 PM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on
Rob Longshot Offline
Chronic Masturbator

Registered: 12/22/03
Posts: 1715
Loc: Everything for the people, not...
http://www.aim-med.org

see this link outsider... if you have any questions/concerns about our testing and safety take it up with these fine people who are in charge of it. do not post your ignorant, obnoxious statements here.
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#13827 - 01/18/04 11:12 PM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on
Owen S Mouth Offline
Gay For Pay

Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 1043
Loc: Warsaw, Poland
He loves the attention

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#13828 - 01/18/04 11:20 PM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on
zenman Offline

Porn Jesus

Registered: 08/26/03
Posts: 8160
Loc: Roma, Repubblica Italiana
Outsider is a media whore, plain and simple.
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#13829 - 01/18/04 11:31 PM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on
Sergio T. Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 07/20/03
Posts: 5256
Loc: CSW Wrestling - Gracie Academy
Ha ha! It was me who said you had a blow up doll.BTW,isnt time you inflated her again? Also, when your done,do you put her back in her box or do you shove her under the bed for esay convinience?
http://www.xxxporntalk.com//ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=shitlist&Number=5033&Forum=All_Forums&Words=201&Match=Username&Searchpage=5&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=4558&Search=true#Post5033
Quote:

Owen:

After finding out that most porn people have herpes, my wife and I freaked out, since it is isn't even tested for.

Thus, the movie we were going to do fell by the wayside.

I'm not going to tell you who the company was, because you could get my personal information from them.

You'll just have to trust that I'm telling you the Truth.

If you folks in porn valley ever make Full Panel Tests, including a test for Herpes, the norm, and it is accepted and enforced by all major studios...

...then my wife and I might decide to give it a whirl.

Until then, we will do what we have always done.

We find a girl, get tested together, share our results, and have a monogamous three person relationship.

Sorry Owen...

...I happen to enjoy my very low health care premiums, since neither of us have, or have had, any diseases.

If you can find us a movie studio that asks for, and requires Full Panel Tests, and a very pretty girl who can pass one, we'd think about doing a movie.

I'd fucking love to do porn. I really would.

But I also like putting my underwear on without any burning, bleeding, or itching sensations.

If the rules of porn ever change, or a new company comes along that advertises 'Disease Free Porn Stars'...

...we'd love to give it a shot.

UPDATE ON THIS THREAD:

Luke has informed me that he'd rather stay in the background, and won't be appearing on the KSEX Radio show.

It also looks like, from the KSEX site, that Chasey Lain isn't booked on Monday night. There's no story, or ad, about her being scheduled for an appearance.

Maybe you'll get to hear my voice some other time.

The surprise I had for all of you was going to be my wife.

We were going to say hello together, so you'd all finally realize that she actually does exist.

By the way, that girl I know...

She thought it was HYSTERICAL that all of you thought I was lying about the existence of my beautiful wife, and our lives. She laughed her head off.

She thought the dude that kept calling her my 'invisible' wife, or my 'blow up doll wife' was hysterical.

That guy is Jeff Steward.

Just thought I'd let ya know.

The Outsider




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#13830 - 01/19/04 07:27 AM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on
Jeff Steward Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/14/03
Posts: 7408
Loc: JM Productions
If I see another post from this numbskull I'm going to kill myself.
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#13831 - 01/19/04 07:43 AM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on
Pornstar2pac Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 380
Loc: ADT 24/7
Quote:

If I see another post from this numbskull I'm going to kill myself.






It was nice knowing Jeff. RIP




BTW-still waiting on thoes gag factor buttons to get you some sign-ups. let me know when it's done. I want to go whore gag factor.
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#13832 - 03/07/07 06:08 PM Re: The Outsider asks to appear with Luke Ford on
jamesn Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/17/04
Posts: 6005
Loc: travieso capital management an...
bump
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