It seems like a lot of pornstars get the idea that porn is their gateway into the mainstream. Considering that there hasn't been a porn star to make the mainstream crossover umm ever (i don't count, jenna, ginger or traci nor should anyone) where do they get this idea?. Who plants this seed into their minds?. I remember reading an interview with alexa rae after her first retirement and her saying she is planning to do some mainstream work. Now Alexa isn't really that attractive, (especially around the time of her first retirement), she is porno sexy but not natural attractive. I mean even if they count ginger, traci and jenna as mainstream crossovers (which they shouldn't) thats 3 out of 2000, considering it took jenna 8 years plus of being at the top, ginger 10 years and a charlie sheen relationship and the underage media rush of the traci situation why do they think there is any chance for them to be number four 6 months into making porn?. Any thoughts?.

I'm guessing it's the proximity to Hollywood and the general behavior and values displayed by it's residents that puts the zap to their head and draws them in.
I mean, they're already a step closer to the limelight than the average Jane.
Remember, a lot of legit actresses have old nudes of themselves floating around from when they were trying to get a foot in the door.
That said, I say good luck to 'em for trying, but it's a longshot for sure.

I think this is the way they justify their actions to themselves. They get into porn for the money and get to see their selves on tape and they get to thinking. God only knows how that process works but it just may give them hope that their pathetic lives can count for something. Well something more than a place for their daddy to unload his sexual desires.
Holding onto that mainstream dream is probably the only way they can get through the long dark nights. That is until they discover it is not going to happen. Then they trade all those dreams in on a good habit that will carry them until they are shot out in a year or two, so they can move on to the escort trade and further.
But these are just my thoughts. YMMV

It could happen soon though. Hear me out.

Can you imagine if the Pamela Anderson Video or the Paris Hilton video had come out in 1985 (with obviously different performers/celebs since Paris was only what? three years old at the time. Do you remember what they did to Vanessa Williams at the time and she came back to be even more popular than any Miss America ever. (Name three others...without Google). Remember last year showed Chloe Sivigny(sp) sucking off Vincent Gallo on camera in the Brown Bunny (otherwise horrible film)

If a star can go from Mainstream to Porn and Back, I think the public will accept a Porn Star crossing over to another medium. If there was ever a time for a cross over porn star, I think it is now. Jenna and Ginger and Traci I think have opened the door.

The big stumbling block is going to be finding a porn chick with any other kind of talent

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Now, if they get the concept right AND don't fucking put it on Opposite MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL...oh wait...there is no Monday Night Football on the Networks anymore...

What's next? Cancel Hockey?



...huh?

All chicks want to be actresses , this doesn't change no matter what they are presently doing ( even sucking cocks)

There's a bit of a terminology problem. I remember Alisha Klass talking about her burgeoning "mainstream" career which consisted of a couple of featured extra spots as a stripper. Howard Stern is "mainstream" to them. Anything involving not having sex for money is "mainstream."

I've always wondered why some girls will go the slasher and sexploitation films while others jump right into the double-anal circus. And a lot of it is persistence. The shit you see on Cinemax is cut-rate and filled with more ridiculous subplots than porn but breaking in at least requires more than some seedy "agent" with a shaved head and goatee shoving his dick in your mouth for a POV "audition".

And though shorter and less explicit, the films are actually hotter than anything that the "feature directors" in XXX have shot, probably because of the tease factor. "How much am I going to see?" With porn, there's not much doubt you're going to see anything and raincoaters would burn the rental house to the ground if they didn't see it all.

With the exception of a few notoriously good looking chicas in porn, like my stalkee Taylor Hayes, most girls in softcore are better looking, too. With chicas like Maria Ford, or the ex-Playmates like India Allen or Lisa Boyle, it's like seeing a supermodel with her clothes off. And without parolees.

I'm not exactly a big fan of either, but softcore is pretty much the ceiling of "mainstream" for these girls, and most of them don't have much opportunity there, either (there was that one guy, Robert Lombard, who said he was casting them). I don't see why more couldn't do it if they could be bothered to read a script, keep from tattoooing their bodies into a Triple-A roadmap of Topeka and getting some professional headshots done. They might not be as attractive as some of the above but they're probably cheaper.

my thoughts on the nature of "the ceiling" are that it's got very little to do with pornchicks being socially stigmatized or unable to act. stigma and acting are both overrated. my state elects a guy who they based alchoholic mayor quimby on and killed a girl. if people care that little about the past, character or morals of someone they select to rule over them, i doubt they really care if a chick on a sitcom shot a few movies. acting's a fucking joke, aside from the derek jacobis where your audience knows your lines and the plots and is measuring your interpretation against another guy's. actors are stupid and usually into flaky healing and scientology and the best directors are still just another cog in an inherently compromised art form where the edgiest independant shit will need another 20 years and dumbing down to catch up to paul auster like they want to.

nah, the reason porn chicks don't get sharon stone's psychobimbo roles is mainly physical. i can't help but notice that most of the karaoke-type pics, while admittedly candid, depict a group of totally unexceptionally-attractive people. some of them may have great tits, but there are almost no hollywood girlies with their body-types. pam anderson is it and she's just a novelty. the reason they get cast as strippers is because they look like strippers-they've got tits, curves and often faces that serve them best in less-than-revealing light. there are exceptions-i agree with taylor hayes and i'd throw in a younger janine for having the right look in terms of having a "pretty" face which means good skin and teeth(money as a kid a lot of the time) and high cheekbones. lauren phoenix has a completely different body type than any leading actress and realistically double the bodyfat % as naomi watts or aniston. skinnier, taller women can get away with below-average chests and look great after the camera adds weight.angular, expressive features(not like alienkerrisable's) photograph well and are interesting to look at and are usually close to symmetrical/desirable. contrast that with the fetal-alchohol-syndrome-look of missy monroe. i've generally found the euro-chicks to be closest to the basingerish-ideal, mainly by virtue of body-type.

it's 4am and this is dangerously close to metastasizing into the anti-pam peaks manifesto. not a bad thing, but i need to get her as far away from my thoughts before i fall asleep or she'll haunt me.

This can all be summed up in what i like to call the "Princess Effect." Attention Attention Attention... whores want a broad range of people to love them for the various obvious reasons we all know. Daddy validation and so on a so forth. Stars supposidly set trends and are written in up in every garbage magazine when they wave or take a shit. It's all a big validation and ego trip. Plus what James said, they are the ugly ducklings turned half decent and out to make up for all the sex they thought the popular chicks in school were gettting.

Wow, i think we covered pretty much every angle to this question. It just amazes me that so many people lack common sense. If you want to be a porn star then great but it will never lead to mainstream so going in with the sole intention that it will is fucking insane, i mean i prefer good legit reasons for getting into porn like paying for your dog's vet bills (nikki tyler) or to support a loser boyfriend who doesn't want to work and doesn't mind his girlfriend having 40 different dicks through her a year as long as the cable bill is paid.

Be nice to get a few porn star quotes that can be linked to their desires to be mainstream. i'll start with this avy one.

"That's a beautiful thing. Sometimes you get a taste of what it is like to be a Hollywood star. You don't make as much money. You don't get recognized as well.

"We are like the warriors of sex. We are part of the revolution. Once the world understands that sex is something good..." Avy Lee Scott

It's just something porn producers say to get stupid whores undressed.

"I'll make you famous" - Max Hardcore

do the majority of woman in porn hope to continue into hollywood
mainstream? probably not.
there seems to be a wall up...the opposing fuckheads, fully in charge.
most actresses(from my point of view) are talented..with luck. no doubt.
it's such a brutal industry..the one common denominator, beauty. you must be beautiful to be of any longterm success. beauty is defined by media.
it's wrong, sure..but that is a fact. there have been(probably very talented)
women slip through the hollywood sift, because of stupid shit, filmed an
explicit movie, refuseed to suck the casting directors dick, damn.. you can't
win. charisma...normally can be your stake, not in hollywood. you gotta have
time and luck.

mainstream people love having porn chicks around. they normally have better drugs. Some dumb whores just dont know to take it at face value.

Well as long as we're braggin', my sorry ass got sent to a military school for a year when I was 15. Don't ask. Somehow that crap school was chosen as the film site for "Childs Play 3", and since I had a good GPA I got to be an extra and ended up in at least 3 scenes. It was a bizarre experience, and my first with weird-ass L.A. types. Met the author though, he was cool as hell. In the end the movie was terrible, of course, we stole every prop we could get our hands on and my best memories were of the awesome catering that was served. Steak kabobs, mmmmmmmm.

thats good shit. i was usually booked as 1 of four things...

Orederly
Coffee/Bagel Shop guy
College Student
Prisoner

which lead me to the one thing i wanted to swipe, I worked on Face/Off and they had these big ass boots on me. I tried to be slick but there was no way i was getting them.

pretty much the only thing i got to make off with was a few scripts which i ebayed off for a couple of bucks.

I'm not in to getting all worked up over celebs, with the exception of the cast of batman, so i could care less who was on the set, BUT one time i got all pumped to meet Brock Peters.

I was like "DOOD YOU'RE THE GUY FROM STAR TREK 6!"

"...and to Kill a Mockingbird"

"what the hell are you talking about?"

ahhh...good times.

My Levar Burton story. I was on the set of a pilot and he was there (his wife is a make-up artist) hanging out.

I thought i'd say "hey". I knew he had written a book and just wanted to congratulate him. that fucker was pretty damn rude and condescending. if I had a copy of his book I would have hit him over the head with it.

I guess he caught himself, realized he was being a dick or realized that if i was on a set i was there for a reason, whatever....he tried back peddling but i didn't see fit to be made a fool of so i kinda wandered off.

dick. I hope he burns in hell.

LOL, it's a strange world that they live in. Hey, Lavar's got a right to be pissed, he spends Roots gettin' his ass whupped, and then spends a decade wearing fucked up glasses on Star Trek. What's he doin' now anyways?

reading rainbow

fuck him. i am going to go to a star trek convention and shove a mr. worf action figure up his ass. he was the only cool one anyway.

Al Pachino "It took a whole mountin to bring down Kirk. You slap the british guy, he starts to cry."

Monstar is correct Star trek the original series kicks next gen ass