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#89792 - 03/13/05 07:40 PM
Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Registered: 12/11/04
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Just watch my tivo of it and it is amazing how the bitch claims to have saved the industry. She claims to have "stopped" production last year. She claims to be looking out for the performers.
Who the fuck is she kidding? This bitch has a "degree" (and I use the term loosely) from a mail in school and this makes her a "doctor"? Fucking please. This bitch has not done anything good for this business. When she was a performer, she sucked and I dont mean in a sexy way. Now, the cunt is old and any appeal she had long gone, acts like the pron world turns on her word.
Funny how the 20/20 piece was done to make her look like a fucking a saint saying how she overcame drugs and her addiction to porn. Truth is, the bith was a paid whore then and shes a paid whore now. The difference with now is that she gives all of these performers the false sense of security while taking their cash and then when she fucks up like with the Aids thing, she acts like she has the power.
I also found it funny that 20/20 referred to AIM as the gold standard of tresting. Fucking please. If they are measuring shit from a bitch who medically doesn't know what the fuck she is talking about, they might be on to something.
Why directors and companies put up with her shit any longer is beyond me. More so, why the performers keep paying her to do tests that do not accurately reflect a true infection is beyond me. I bet she never once offered money back to the people she screwed up and quarrantined last year not to mention the money these performers/directors lost.
The best thing the bitch can do is quit and put someone with a fucking brain in charge there and restore some credibility. Her quote:"Nowadays, anyone with viagra and a Hi-8 camera can shoot porn". Fucking Hi-8? WTF? This isnt the 90s. While true a camera means people can shoot porn, the ones that know how to shoot are the ones that stick around in porn.
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#89793 - 03/13/05 07:48 PM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 01/25/05
Posts: 737
Loc: Wisconsin
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..... Wow..... And your not in the industry I take it? Please enlighten me to how the PCR DNA test is giving a false sense of security? Its one of the best tests out there for HIV. Are you saying we preformers would be better off not testing? Or is testing a waste of our time? Cause man I would love a good case of somethign itchy or drippy! She did help stop production last to year. Which probably kept many others from getting infected. Imagine had the HIV not been aim tested and allowed to work. Many more would have been infected by this horrid outbreak. She didnt fuck up... The preformer who went out of the country to do god knows what fucked up. Who fucking cares about the money that was lost for those few months. Fucking lifes were saved. How much is someones life worth to you? and btw... ALOT of amatuer guys are still shooting with SOny Digital HI 8's. More than you think. Anyhow, IMO I think your opinions are completely worthless as are you. Have a Great Day Snookums  !
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#89794 - 03/13/05 08:00 PM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Registered: 12/11/04
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Mandy, Mandy, Mandy. You missed the point obviously. Sharon is not the answer for protection. This woman is claiming to be a champion for the performer's cause. She is taking credit, credit for which she is not responsible.
Now, testing is a 100% must in this business. AIM isnt the place to get it though. Why do you think we had the problem last year? It was on AIM. The sad thing that is lost on the performers is that AIM is nothing more than a cash cow with someone who is UNQUALIFIED to lead it. Sharon is NOT a true doctor. She did NOT attend medical school which is where you get your doctor's credentials. She can NOT practice medicine in any of the 50 states.
Testing is not a waste of time however, going through AIM is just like testing with a blindfold. In the mean time, you pay for your test, get a false sense of security that its being done properly, and then have some bitch say she is doing it for your own good. Sharon is not doing this for you or any other performer. She is doing this to make money. Its a business and if she wasnt making money, she wouldnt be doing it for free. Thats what I have a problem with.
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#89795 - 03/13/05 08:14 PM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 01/25/05
Posts: 737
Loc: Wisconsin
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Yes yes She is making out like a cash cow im sure.....
Please enlighten me to as what proof that these tests are no good?
Funny I test at AIM and I also test at a prv dr in chicago and the test always say the same thing.... I dont feel these tests are compromised sorry to say
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#89796 - 03/13/05 08:26 PM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Registered: 12/11/04
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There are other tests out there that are more accurate. The name escapes me at the moment as I am not a doctor, just a simple director.
The tests are compromised if they are being administered by Sharon. She is not a licensed doctor. Not to mention she has a history of covering shit up and then turning around and selling out the very people she claims to be working to protect.
My post was not to debate testing. It was to share my thought on what a disgusting piece of work that hooker is. You did know that she still hooks right? Funny 20/20 seemed to have left that part out on their piece.
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#89797 - 03/13/05 09:08 PM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 01/25/05
Posts: 737
Loc: Wisconsin
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yea I have heard rumors of that. But I try to make up my own opinions on things.
So its not the test.. its personally her?
If AIM was run by someone else would you be entirely happy?
Do you just think there needs to be someone with more of a medical background?
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#89798 - 03/13/05 10:26 PM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 01/12/05
Posts: 76
Loc: hollywood
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DR. sharon mitchell put a DEAD HAULT to production last spring? what a laugh!!! i know for a FACT that there was production going on during that period. in this industry, i highly doubt there will be a situation that puts the brakes on production...even for ONE DAY!!! there is too much money to be made in this industry!! someone saying "all production must cease for X amount of days" isnt going to stop people in this industry from making $$$! (dr. or no dr.)
mandy: everyone has their opinion about aim and the accuracy of the tests offered there. everyone has an opionion about sharon mitchell and how she runs aim. it depends on who youve talked to in the industry, your experiences at aim, the publications youve read regarding aim and the situation last spring, etc.
if you feel that you are in good hands at aim, then continue to go there with comfort. actually you have NO choice but to get tested at aim if you work in this business; so no matter how a performer feels about sharon mitchell or aim, everyone has to go there.
its a tough topic to discuss.
personally, ive never had an issue with aim, but i know MANY people who have. like i said, its a tough topic, but we have to go to aim to work...so we deal with it and go every 30 days.
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#89799 - 03/13/05 11:48 PM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 01/25/05
Posts: 737
Loc: Wisconsin
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I dont understand why there is doubt in the accuracy of the tests? Did somethign happen in the past where a test wasnt?
And ur right production never came to a screeching halt. At the time I was in the midwest enjoying my home life and plenty of people were shooting but some companies did halt production.
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#89800 - 03/14/05 12:24 AM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
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Why do you think we had the problem last year? It was on AIM.
Nonsense. Completely idiotic.
The outbreak last year happened because T.T. Boy decided to take some talent (Darren James) to Brazil to shoot bareback scenes with local talent known to do bareback scenes with other locals (and trannies). AIM had nothing to do with this decision.
To look at it another way: what organization would have caught the outbreak quicker? Certainly not the professional medical community – no other organization tests with such frequency or uses such definitive tests initially as AIM (outside of porn the standard is antibody tests, maybe every three to six months or so where an infection is suspected).
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Sharon is NOT a true doctor.
This is true. Her degree is in “sex†(seriously) from a diploma mill of some sort: this has been discussed before at length.
On the other hand, as long as she acts as an administrator and not a doctor this is not a problem. She may or may not always remember this fine point.
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going through AIM is just like testing with a blindfold.
OK, I'm calling you on this one. Present some facts for your case otherwise I claim you're a troll making things up.
AIM has been operating for 7+ years as I recall. There were no outbreaks in porn in this time prior to the T.T. Boy / Evasive Angels outbreak. That's plenty of time to get complacent and sloppy. Instead it appears that the AIM tests did indeed catch the outbreak at the first chance, the first time people came in for testing. It's true there was some muddle in tracking things down and that an epidemiologist would have done better, but that's not a question of quality of testing (and AIM probably can't keep an epidemiologist on the staff anyway).
The standard test for HIV in the professional medical community, as recommended by the CDC and everyone else, is an antibody test with a PCR/DNA to confirm positive results (often only after repeated antibody tests continue to yield a positive result). AIM cuts right to the medical “gold standard†test by using PCR from the start.
There may be newer tests in development that are more definitive that PCR but I'm not aware of them. Most of the effort appears to be going into improving the antibody tests, not into something that may be more accurate than PCR. Some new antibody tests hold out the hope of being able to do day-of-shoot testing and/or getting better early sensitivity, which would be a good thing, but these are as yet unproven and should not replace PCR (you still have to have PCR to weed out false positives anyway).
It is possible to choose the amount of amplification used in a PCR test and hence trade off cost vs. sensitivity. I've never heard anyone even mention the amount of amplification done by AIM – it's likely AIM just sends the samples to a lab, which follows the CDC and test machine manufacturer's recommendations.
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She is doing this to make money. Its a business and if she wasnt making money, she wouldnt be doing it for free.
Well, OF COURSE!
Don't you have rent due every month, maybe a car payment? If you weren't making money would you keep doing your job for free? Even with those bills due? 
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#89801 - 03/14/05 12:37 AM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 01/12/05
Posts: 76
Loc: hollywood
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I dont understand why there is doubt in the accuracy of the tests? Did somethign happen in the past where a test wasnt?
i am in no position to comment on this topic, at most i can voice my opinion.
to my knowledge, there have been "incidents" that have raised questions to sharon mitchell/aim concerning the accuracy of the tests that are administered at aim facilities. i am the wrong person to ask what these "incidents" are and what they concern.
like i said, if you feel that you are in good hands at aim and you are confident in the services they provide, then dont question going to aim to get tested.
everyone is going to have an opinion or a story to tell about this, that and the other. dont let it bother you. its good to be informed, but dont let words of others weigh too heavily on you.
if you are really concerned with sharon mitchell and aim, dont waste your time dwelling on opinions and stories from other people. take it upon yourself to do some research and draw your own conclusion from there.
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#89803 - 03/14/05 01:55 AM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 01/12/05
Posts: 76
Loc: hollywood
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to my knowledge, there have been "incidents" that have raised questions to sharon mitchell/aim concerning the accuracy of the tests that are administered at aim facilities.
I don't think the tests are done at AIM? It would be hard for them to get a license to do it. I thought AIM merely collected samples to be tested elsewhere.
Someone has to collect an uncontaminated, correctly-labeled sample and send it to a lab that puts it in a PCR machine with the right reagents and settings, etc. The test itself is highly accurate in a theoretical sense – it's the human error component that is the problem.
the samples that are collected by aim are NOT tested by aim. to my knowledge, aim has a contract healthline clinical laborotories (burbank, ca). aim collects the samples, submits the samples to healthline, healthline tests the samples and submits the results to aim.
aim is willingly under contract with healthline, therefore if these "incidents" appear to lie within the lab then why does aim continue to maintain their contract with this certain lab?
in my opinion, your statement, "it's the human error component that is the problem" carries 100% validity.
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Hospitals and doctors kill people all the time with these kinds of errors. AIM might be sloppier than some, but don't assume there's anywhere you can go that won't have these problems.
there will be errors within any medical facitlity; there is no way around error within doctors, testing procedures, test results, etc.
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#89804 - 03/14/05 08:24 AM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
Posts: 80
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The ignorance being spouted here by people with absolutely no knowledge whatsoever about the protocols of AIM is amazing.
AIM has three medical doctors on their staff. They use the most advanced tests(HIV-1 Roche Diagnostic amplicor Assay) adn the tests are done by a lab that is regarded by Roche to be the number 1 pcr technology lab in the united states.They are also the least expensive place in the entire U.S. to get theses tests and they have a NEXT day result. Healtheline lab is fully liscensed and is also CAP certified, which means they pass higher standards than necessary to be CLIA certified. That probably means nothing to the uninformed morons here but anyone with any medical backround knows that this level of accredidation is not easy to accomplish for any lab.
From the day that Darren tested positive not one single transmission of the virus occured after that. That is exactly what the AIM program is designed to do(CONTAIN ANY OUTBREAK) THe AIM program is not about prevention you idiots, its about containment, and it worked perfectly no matter how you idiots try to spin it.
I see alot of AIM bashing here but NEVER NEVER NEVER have I seen any of these AIM basheres offer any other solution. ThaT IS BECAUSE YOU DONT HAVE ANY OTHER SOLUTIONS.
and again for the record, SHaron is not the mecidal director of AIM. That is DR. COlin Hamblin. There are also tweo other md's on their staff.
The accuracy of the testing at AIM has never been called into question, except by the morons on these chatboards who know nexst to nothing about it. The l.a. county health department, cdc, fda, national institute of health are all fully aware of AIM and their procedures and have NEVER NEVER NEVER issued any type of sanction or violatin against AIM. Dont you think that if AIM wqas as bad as these morons are stating that they wouldn't have been shut down by now..
Some of ytou morons are really amazing. IF ignorance is bliss then this must be heaven.
P.S. I work for the San Diego county Department of HEalth, sexually transmitted disease unit. Several adut performers live here in the san diego area and I have personally dealt with AIM on many occasions.I have never had any problems with them
If all you know about AIM is from reading sites like thisone, Adulstfyi, mike south, and other INDUSTRY sites then you have ot consider your source before forming an opinion. AIM is subject to all of the legal inspections and laws as any other health clinic. They have NEVER recieved any tye of vilation citation in their seven plus yeaars of existence. And thouhg you wouldnt get the impression by reading these sites, the VAST VAST majority of the perfomers and producers in the adult industry support AIM completely.
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#89805 - 03/14/05 08:59 AM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 01/12/05
Posts: 76
Loc: hollywood
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The ignorance being spouted here by people with absolutely no knowledge whatsoever about the protocols of AIM is amazing.
AIM has three medical doctors on their staff. They use the most advanced tests(HIV-1 Roche Diagnostic amplicor Assay) adn the tests are done by a lab that is regarded by Roche to be the number 1 pcr technology lab in the united states.They are also the least expensive place in the entire U.S. to get theses tests and they have a NEXT day result. Healtheline lab is fully liscensed and is also CAP certified, which means they pass higher standards than necessary to be CLIA certified. That probably means nothing to the uninformed morons here but anyone with any medical backround knows that this level of accredidation is not easy to accomplish for any lab.
From the day that Darren tested positive not one single transmission of the virus occured after that. That is exactly what the AIM program is designed to do(CONTAIN ANY OUTBREAK) THe AIM program is not about prevention you idiots, its about containment, and it worked perfectly no matter how you idiots try to spin it.
i am very amused by the last statement you make in your post.
aim will always be surrounded with "talk" and controversey; there is no way around it.
your comments on how ignorant and uninformed people are concerning aim and their practices is, with no question, ludicrous! you maintain your opinion concerning aim, in turn others will maintain their conviction regarding aim.
viewing the posts contained in this thread, you appear to be the only individual whose comments contain vile and pugnacious ideas concerning peoples qualms within aim.
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I see alot of AIM bashing here but NEVER NEVER NEVER have I seen any of these AIM basheres offer any other solution. ThaT IS BECAUSE YOU DONT HAVE ANY OTHER SOLUTIONS.
if you feel that not one person on this board has raised any positive solution to any issues regarding aim, be my guest to be the first to step up to the plate. you are quick to point the finger (in aim's defense) and post such preposterous accusations (regarging opinions of others); lets see how quick you are to come up with a solution to this matter.
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#89806 - 03/14/05 11:54 AM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
Posts: 80
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Veronica, please read the posts on this thread. You have people posting here who did not even know that AIM does not run the tests, they are done by an independant lab.
Please read some of the other threads on this board and see the vile crap spewed at sharon mithcell. Read the thread right now in the SHITLIST and see some of the crap written there.
And my solution is to support AIM. Seven years and one hiv outbreak started by someon who went OUTSIDE of the AIM testing circle. STD rates at about on fout=rth the national average for sexually active adults.
People on this board are not even aware that Sharon Mithcell is NOT the MEDICAL DIRECTOR of AIM.
Perhaps moron and idiot were harsh. I will say that they are very uninformed about what AIM does.
True, AIM will always be surrounded by 'talk' and controversy, but when people doing the talking dont even know that AIM has an independant lab doing the work, or has three medical doctors on their staff, or they use the most technologically advanced testing methods, or that it is a program of CONTAINMENT , not prevention, then the discussions are worthless.
And exactly what do you find so amusing about my last statement in my previous post. It is a factually correct statement that explains in verysimple terms what AIM's role in the industry is. What is so AMUSING about that?
And veronica, you speak of 'incidents' regarding AIMSA test yet you aknowledge you have no personal knowledge of these alleged incidents. Having checked directly with the l.a. county health department I can sya for a fact that NOBODY has ever filed any type of complaint regfarding the accuracy of AIMS tests and that healthline labs is regarded as the number one pcr technology lab in the u.s.(Member of Roche Diagnostics Center of Excellence Program, And was awarded the Rocche Diagnostics Laboratory of the YEar in 2003) (Roche holds the patent for pcr testing)
There are also others woho have written that the pcr test is not FDA approved. That it absolutely FALSE. It was approved in 1996 as a SCREENING test, not a DIAGNOSTIC test, that is why AIM follwed ALL of the correct protocols to run confirmatory tests on everyone last spring.
To try to impune the reputation on healthline labs regarding the accuracy of their tests is an excersise in futility. They are simply the best in the united states, and NOBODY in the medical field will disagree with that statement, or at least they will not put their name to it if they do.
ACID SEX, there is no other hiv test more accurate than the one AIM uses. The reason you cant think of the name of the test you purport to be more accurate is because it does not exist. Veronica, this is the type of uninformed stuff I"M talking about.
Again I apologize for using the derogitory terms. Uninformed and uneducated would be more accurate.
VERONICA, please read some of the archives on this site regarding sharon mitchell and you will see real vile and pugnacious statements.
And the original post on this thread stating that AIM is responsible for last springs outbreak, well veronica, I think even you would agree that statement is completely ludicrous.
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#89808 - 03/14/05 12:48 PM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
Posts: 80
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When AIM first started the monlthly g/c testing it was done for free by the county of l.a., the only problem was it took 5 to 6 days to get the results. They then began sending the g/c to the private lab, which gets results in 1to3 days, with the majority of results back the next day. AIM charges 25 dollars for that test. Dr. Rigg charges 75 for the same test. The percentage of g/c positive tests at AIM is about 2 to 4%.Is that what you call 'testing positive left and right?" And anyone with a labdat account can check those numbers. They are accurate.And correct me if I'm wrong JIm, but didn't world modeling fight tooth and nail AGAINST requirng monlthly g/c tests. I guess you really are concerned about the health and well being of your 'models.'
And what would have happened last spring if everyone was going to differnt places getting tested. How would you track that? NOBODY has ever answered this question everytime it has been asked. Having it all under one roof is essential to anyCONTAINMENT program. How come NOBODY from any medical association, county health, fda, cdc, has ever advocated multiple testing facilities? Because the results would be disasterous. They did have multiple facilities before AIM was formed, and we all know what happened then(Marc Wallice)
To say tests are SCREWED up when they are pending in laughable. ANyone with lab experiecne will tell you that their procedures for assuring accurate results sometimes require pepeat tests to confirm t=results.. IF you've ever seen an AIM result with a positive gonn or chlam, youj will see it usually says"Result confirmed by repeat analysis" It takes time to do that.
A few weeks ago the lab instituted a new testing procedure that held up result for several days. What most people in the adult industry don't know is that if AIM was using ANY other lab in the u.s. that the 5 to7 day turn around time would be NORMAL.
Rewgarding the 'other' clinics.. Are you refferring to DR. RIGG who charges 75 dollars for the same g/c test that aim does for 25 and it takes him 3 to 5 days ,best case scenario, to get results. Or oare you referring to USA Referrals, whose lab was running a "home brew reagent"(not roche) test, and had no validation procedures for that test?Is this where you would want your partner tested JIM? Is this where you would recommend people get tested? Or is their a financial concern that you;re not talking about here? (kickbacks like rob spallone was taking form the clinic in torrence)
Simply because they provide the best tests, at the best price, with the fastest turn around time does not make them a monopoly, it just makes them better than anyplace else.
Does anyone recall the interview with rob spall0ne that dcyper did on hardcoregossip afew months ago where he admitted to taking kickbacks of 10 dollars per patient form the clinic in torrence years ago. Now you can see why these people want a PEICE of the action.
And the only reason people loose work because of pending tests is that they wait until their current test is expired before going in and getting retested. AIM has always said the g/c results can take 1 to 3 working days.(not weekends)
ANd anyone who knows anything about running a health clinic and a clinics relationship with their lab will tell you it is not feasable to use multiple labs for testing. The equipment, procedures, and a host of other issues make that very unfeasable. If anyone here has ever worked in a clinic or doctors office they will tell you that using multiple labs is just not feasable.
And there are many other labs that do these tests, and any other clinic can have any of these labs run their tests. The real reason nobody has opened a new clinic is because when they see the actual WORK involved they run for the hills, and they know that they cannot compete with AIM regarding price, turnaroundtime or accuracy.
Regarding monolplies, aren't there alot of people who used to say that World Modeling was a monoploy? I do not mean to impune world modeling. JIM south is a legend in this buissness and this industry would not be what it is today without him. My hat is off to the success that jim south has had in this industry for many many years.
Jim, can you imagine what it is going to be like when the state of california decides to implement REQUIREMENTS for testing. They will most likely model the reqwuirements after the state of nevada testing program..weekly testing, not monthly, at STATE approved facilities, not INDUSTRY approved facilities. ALL names of performers going into STATE of California databases for tracking. Be careful what you alk for, you might just get it.
One final questin Jim Jr., what would be tha advantage of having multiple testing facilities? BE specific please.(does anyone here think he'll answer this question?)
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#89809 - 03/14/05 01:47 PM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
Posts: 80
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ACID SEX, regarding your statement about giving money back to performers whose tests were 'screwed up last april.. First of all nobodies tests were screwed up andf all of the people on the q lists were tested FOR FRFEEEEE, repeat FOR FREE using a multitude of different tests just to be sure. Statements like this show that you know absolutely NOTHING avbout how AIM operates. You are a troll who is just making this shit up. You have no facts at all to back up any of your statements. Nice try though, better luck next time.
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#89810 - 03/14/05 01:50 PM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 01/12/05
Posts: 76
Loc: hollywood
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Veronica, please read the posts on this thread. You have people posting here who did not even know that AIM does not run the tests, they are done by an independant lab.
i find it ridiculous that individuals do not pay attention to their test results to see that aim is the "collection agency" and the name and contact information of the "testing agency" is listed at the top of the result page.
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And my solution is to support AIM. Seven years and one hiv outbreak started by someon who went OUTSIDE of the AIM testing circle. STD rates at about on fout=rth the national average for sexually active adults.
People on this board are not even aware that Sharon Mithcell is NOT the MEDICAL DIRECTOR of AIM.
one way is to support aim. the majority, that voice their opionions regarding aim, appear to not want to support aim.
i believe, the reason people are not aware that sharon mitchell is not the medical director of aim falls within the way sharon mitchell represents aim. she seems to always push the fact that she is indeed a "dr.", as well as never fully clairfing that three other practicing medical doctors are present at the facilities.
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Perhaps moron and idiot were harsh. I will say that they are very uninformed about what AIM does.
i agree with you.
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And exactly what do you find so amusing about my last statement in my previous post. It is a factually correct statement that explains in verysimple terms what AIM's role in the industry is. What is so AMUSING about that?
simply, i am amused by the facts you are stating.
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And veronica, you speak of 'incidents' regarding AIMSA test yet you aknowledge you have no personal knowledge of these alleged incidents.
(earlier in your post) you directed me to view other threads regarding sharon mitchell/aim and to take notice of what is being said in these threads. i think you were directing me towards these other topics so that i may gain some sort of clairification of your side on this subject...correct?
let me direct you on to something...NOT ONCE did i state anything related to: "aknowledge you have no personal knowledge of these alleged incidents."
please, instead of spending your time making comments on how people are "idiots", maybe you should spend your time carefully reading the posts in which you reply to (with such confidence). please read below and find that the following quote is EXACTLY WHAT I POSTED.
to my knowledge, there have been "incidents" that have raised questions to sharon mitchell/aim concerning the accuracy of the tests that are administered at aim facilities. i am the wrong person to ask what these "incidents" are and what they concern.
HELPME: have you ever stepped foot into the aim clinic in van nuys? regardless if you have or have not, you will see that there is a massive bird cage in the waiting area. with all other issues (concening aim/sharon mitchell) aside, please explain to me how that is not of any health violation. sharon mitchell carries the title of "dr.", hence she should know that the presence of a live animal (especailly a BIRD) in a medical facility where samples are being taken is HIGHLY AGAINST ANY HEALTH CODE!!!!!!!!!
may i add that the bird is not present at the facility at ALL TIMES, regardless the bird cage is present at all times. im sure that cage is NOT cleaned every time the bird is taken out of the facility, therefore the germs of the bird remain on the cage and in the waiting area of the van nuys aim clinic.
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#89811 - 03/14/05 02:18 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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"The percentage of g/c positive tests at AIM is about 2 to 4%.Is that what you call 'testing positive left and right?"
No... I was saying when they first introduced it and it was free all was good. Then they started charging and people were testing positive left and right at the time. Nowadays it is lower but it is certainly not 2%-4% with the jobs we have to cancel with the positives.
"And anyone with a labdat account can check those numbers"
Sure if they "donate" a few hundred dollars to them each month to have an account for piece of mind.
"didn't world modeling fight tooth and nail AGAINST requirng monlthly g/c tests."
We fought to prevent one center testing everyone.
"To say tests are SCREWED up when they are pending in laughable"
Yes it is. BUT they are not pending when they do not even send in the test/lose it. My girlfriend has had it done and I have had it done with me when I went in for a G&C. Went through the lovely procedure, the doctor guessed what I had and prescribed me something with assumption the test would be sent off. The meds did nothing and they never sent the test in.
"Rewgarding the 'other' clinics.. Are you refferring to DR. RIGG who charges 75 dollars for the same g/c test that aim does for 25 "
Riggs was one of them, can't remember the name of the other. Thing is... Riggs would be able to get the same price if he had half the volume AIM gets. More quanity, the cheaper it gets. No idea who was trying the "home brew"
"World Modeling was a monoploy?"
Absolutely not. Reb at PGI was the first, we were 2nd. We did not go to companies and tell them we would not deal with them if they took people elsewhere. We did not have people attacked and beaten like what was done to my father. People were free to hire who they wanted. How is that a monopoly?
"Jim, can you imagine what it is going to be like when the state of california decides to implement REQUIREMENTS for testing."
This IS terrible. Only reason that is becoming a reality IMO is because Sharon made it a point to be in the media of this whole last outbreak. We have had larger outbreaks in the past and no one from the state/goverment gave us bother. No one was on TV telling people that are not even involved in the situation a play by play of what was going on. Freaking people out.
"what would be tha advantage of having multiple testing facilities?"
Variety has always been the spice of life. Maybe you live closer, maybe they would be open after hours compared to AIM (6-10), open on Sundays, you don't get along with AIM for personal reasons, people screwing your arm up when they take blood.
I do agree having a cenrtal database with everyone's record incase this happens again is a good thing, but I also think with some cooperation on both parites, something could be worked out. Medicals records can be taken from one place to another. So why not consolidated when people lives depend on it?
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#89812 - 03/14/05 02:20 PM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Registered: 08/03/03
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After that AIM gets most major companies to sign a contract to only except tests from them. Last I checked monopolies are NOT legal.
Monopolies are legal. They just have extra restrictions on behavior.
Moreover, AIM is NOT a monopoly in a legal sense. You can still get a HIV test elsewhere and AIM is not in a position to prevent that. Studio X may not accept it, but that's their decision.
Certain behaviors that might lead to a monopoly are illegal but that's a different question.
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Having it all under one roof is essential to anyCONTAINMENT program. How come NOBODY from any medical association, county health, fda, cdc, has ever advocated multiple testing facilities? Because the results would be disasterous.
Epidemiologists deal with this all the time. Admittedly, there apparently weren't any involved the HIV outbreak last year...
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They did have multiple facilities before AIM was formed, and we all know what happened then(Marc Wallice)
The Marc Wallice outbreak occurred because there was no system to catch people deliberately falsifying their tests. There's no need for a single clinic or lab to deal with this, just a realization that there needs to be a means to verify a claimed test result, a strong-enough means to prevent someone from deliberately falsifying a result. Most doctor's offices aren't set up to let third-parties verify test results (medical privacy laws make this awkward).
And there are multiple testing facilities used right now. There was a recent post here by talent saying that T.T. Boy doesn't get his tests done by AIM; he has it done elsewhere. That bothers me a lot, because nobody knows if the test result is true. Maybe the other doctor and lab are honest, but they probably aren't set up to catch cheaters, and given T.T. Boy's habit of shooting bareback in South America with talent that works bareback there, I'd sure want to know that T.T. isn't the next Marc Wallice.
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#89813 - 03/14/05 02:20 PM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
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Your comments about the bird are flat out wrong. Yes i have been to AIM. Several people over the years have tried to report the bird as a health code violation. It simply is not. Call the countyyourself and see. Others have tried several times over the years.
Regarding all of these "incidents' that people always refer to, when has anyone ever had one single example. Everybody says, "IHEARD THIS SOMEWHERE" or somebodytold me etc, etc. Isn't it amazing how everybody except the proper health officials have all 'heard' of these alleged incidents..NOT ONE SINGLE CITATION OR VIOLATION IN SEVEN PLUS YEARS, but all of the 'incidents' that everyone has 'heard about. Quite strange indeed.
Jim, i recall an article on the old ADULTBEAT.com site that had the headline AIM LOOSES 15 GONN TESTS. But when asked for any specific names the author could not come up with a simgle one.(luke i think it was) Aim has processed over 90,000 tests over the years. Human error is bound to happen no matter what facility you go to. But no error at AIM has EVER been cause for any violation whatsoever.
So many PROBLEMS with AIM and no santions ever. Just maybe AIM isnt the problem and the real problem is the "INDUSTRY"
that has no form of consensus, no talent based organization, and no RULES that anyone follows. As a supposed multi-billion dollar insustry, you would think there would be some kind of organization of the simplest kind to monitor this but there isn't. But that is the last thing that any agents or modeling agencies want, the talent to be eduacated and united.
This insustry does NOTHING for the tlent regarding healthcare. Producers, agents etc, donate next to nothing to AIM. How much does world modeling donate to aim to help protect the health of their own models? Oh, wait, if you work for world modeling you pay for your own tests.
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#89814 - 03/14/05 02:50 PM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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Veronica, you're correct. You did not say you had no knowledge of these incidents, you said you were not the person to ask regarding these incidents. And that is exactly my point. People keep claiming to have heard of these incidents but NOBODY has ever given any examples, or they 'cant remember where they "heard" it.'
So if you could please tell us where you heard of these incidents and who is the right person to ask about them it would help greatly.
You bring up these INCIDENTS and then offer nothing to corroborate, just like everyone else in the past on these boards. So for the recored, since, as you state," you are not the one to ask what these incidents are and what they concern" please tell us who is the one to ask. Where did you here of these incidents?
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#89816 - 03/14/05 03:05 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
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Post deleted by helpme
Edited by helpme (03/14/05 03:07 PM)
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#89818 - 03/14/05 03:10 PM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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Jim, i apologize for the previous post. I deleted it. The girl was not a world modeling performer. My sincerest apologies.
Jim, what do you do when you catch someone forging a test?
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#89819 - 03/14/05 03:30 PM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 01/12/05
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Veronica, you're correct. You did not say you had no knowledge of these incidents, you said you were not the person to ask regarding these incidents. And that is exactly my point. People keep claiming to have heard of these incidents but NOBODY has ever given any examples, or they 'cant remember where they "heard" it.'
So if you could please tell us where you heard of these incidents and who is the right person to ask about them it would help greatly.
You bring up these INCIDENTS and then offer nothing to corroborate, just like everyone else in the past on these boards. So for the recored, since, as you state," you are not the one to ask what these incidents are and what they concern" please tell us who is the one to ask. Where did you here of these incidents?
the reason i am not commenting on these incidents is for the same reason i have stated throughout this thread: I AM NOT THE PERSON TO ASK ABOUT ANY INCIDENT (that does not directly involve my being) CONCERNING AIM! i could go on and on regarding these "incidents" i speak of, but i choose not to. i am not directly involved in any of these "incidents" i have mention, therefore i feel that it is not my place to speak on other individuals personal business.
i am not defending anyone, i am simply respecting the privacy of others and their issues concerning aim. if i should face an issue concerning myself and aim or sharon mitchell, i will be more than willing to speak on it.
in no way am i being a "pussy" by not divulging information that concerns other persons that are not myself.
as for the bird...
i managed a hair salon for 5 years and we acquired a new owner of the salon. the new owner didnt feel that keeping her dog (its a small lap dog, similar to a mini pin) in the back office (totally seculded from any contact with clientel) was in violation of any health code nor would the presence of her dog disturb anyone. some clients became very upset concerning the new ownership and found out about the dog in the back office. one of the ill clients called the health department and shut the salon down on the sole basis that there were animals present in the salon during business hours.
im sure that you have done your research regarding the bird at aim. i find it insane that a hair salon can be closed down due to a small dog and a MEDICAL TESTING FACILITY is not violating any health code by having a bird in their office!
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#89820 - 03/14/05 03:47 PM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/08/04
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Veronica, i respect you not talking about others problems with AIM out of respect for their privacy. But it is amazing how many accusastions are made with nothing to back them up(except for jim here).
If even half of these accusations made over the years wre
true AIM would have been closed long long ago. It is my opinion that the vast majority of these "incidents" are purely fabricated for no other reason than to bash AIM and Sharon Mitchell. But for the record, you did bring it up. Perhaps you could call some of those people you 'heard' this from and get their permission to talk about it, or better yet ask them to post it here themselves. I have a feeling we will be waiting till hell freezes over before we get any more specific details of AIM fucking up peoples tests.
But i do respect you keeping the confidentiality of your 'sources' for the reasons you stated.
Now lets all give some ideas on how to improve the system. I've asked this on many other threads but the only responses i get are in the manner of 'get rid of the bitch sharon mitchell.
Anybody here have any REAL ideas on how to make the system better?
Regarding the bird, yes it is ridiculous that there are different standards for a hair salon and a medical clinic. Did you know that hte fine for falsifying a beautician liscense is more than the fine for impersonating a dentist. Ridisculous indeed. And i do agree, the bird should go. See, even I have some disagreements with AIM
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#89821 - 03/14/05 04:23 PM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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#89823 - 03/15/05 02:08 PM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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Jim, I believe World was, is, and probably will be for a long time one of the better agencies when it comes to not ripping off the talent. The fees and percentages others charge are sometimes ridiculous, but form what I've heard you guys are generally pretty good, and in this buissness pretty good is about as good as it gets.
But seeing as how this INDUSTRY offers absolutely nothing in the way of any healthcare (multi billion dollar industry my ass) managers and agents paying for tests doesnt seem like too much to ask.
If a girl gets hurt on a shoot,(a torn ass, or injuered throat) who pays for that? ANswer, the girl herself the vast majority of the time. And sometimes those bills are more than what she got paid. This is a travesty and something should be dome. Perhaps OSHA will do something.
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#89824 - 03/16/05 08:54 AM
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Perhaps if some of these"stars" would invest in health insurance instead of snorting a few lines or spending their entire earnings on new clothes then they wouldnt have these problems.
I can say this much. In the last 5 years in this biz, the majority of performers are broke the second they get paid. Ill give you an example. 2 years ago, girl did a shoot and wascryingabout getting kicked out of her apartment so kindly I kicked in a couple hundred more on top of the rate and what did she do? Called her dealer whothen showed up to my set. What did I do? Kicked the shit out of the dealer and didnt pay the bitch for putting my business at risk.
The truth is, the major reason bitches get into porn is because they are broke and need cash. Instead of saving their earnings so they dont find themeselves in the same situation again, they blow their cash and then end up advertising blow jobs for $75 on Craigs List. Aint that right Nicole Brazzle?
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#89825 - 03/16/05 09:15 AM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 10/19/04
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well to tell u the truth no not true. i own 3 of my own sites plus an agent so money i dont need. i have plenty of it, but hell money is always good...
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#89826 - 03/16/05 09:20 AM
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Surely youre not denying sucking dicks for cash off Craig'sList are you?
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#89827 - 03/16/05 09:37 AM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 01/12/05
Posts: 76
Loc: hollywood
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Perhaps if some of these"stars" would invest in health insurance instead of snorting a few lines or spending their entire earnings on new clothes then they wouldnt have these problems.
I can say this much. In the last 5 years in this biz, the majority of performers are broke the second they get paid. Ill give you an example. 2 years ago, girl did a shoot and wascryingabout getting kicked out of her apartment so kindly I kicked in a couple hundred more on top of the rate and what did she do? Called her dealer whothen showed up to my set. What did I do? Kicked the shit out of the dealer and didnt pay the bitch for putting my business at risk.
The truth is, the major reason bitches get into porn is because they are broke and need cash. Instead of saving their earnings so they dont find themeselves in the same situation again, they blow their cash and then end up advertising blow jobs for $75 on Craigs List. Aint that right Nicole Brazzle?
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Surely youre not denying sucking dicks for cash off Craig'sList are you?
 does it really matter how nicole (or anyone in ANY industry) makes her money? is it your business how people in the industry spend their money? everyone has something that will ultimatley stray them from their "goal", its something that is unavoidable!
if you are so concerned about girls saving their "hard earned" money, why dont you become a financial advisor?\
as for the health insurance...
its a bitch to get health insurance when it is not offered through a company...actaully, its a total ripoff! if you were in the "position" that some of the talent is, would health insurance be one of your top priorites?
im not defending anyone, just passing time before i have to go to work
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#89828 - 03/16/05 10:52 AM
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You see, it is my business when performers dont do the right things with their money. Whodo you think they always hit up for cash when they are in a bind? Helath insurance should be one of the things they should get with their wages espciallyif they think they can turn around and sue companies forhealth related illneses.
As a business owner, I have to maintain insurance formycompany and those that work for me. Unlike the majority of whores who choose to do drugs with their cash instead of making sure their medical bills are paid.
Personally, I am glad with the quick turn around in porn.After a couple shoots, most are not heard from again and tons of money continues to bemade off of them.
But back to the original post,as long as whores like Mitchell continue to act is if they are looking out for porn whores, mindless numb fucks like Brazzle will continue to do stupid shit like suck dick for $75.
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#89829 - 03/16/05 12:51 PM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 01/12/05
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Loc: hollywood
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You see, it is my business when performers dont do the right things with their money. Whodo you think they always hit up for cash when they are in a bind? Helath insurance should be one of the things they should get with their wages espciallyif they think they can turn around and sue companies forhealth related illneses.
As a business owner, I have to maintain insurance formycompany and those that work for me. Unlike the majority of whores who choose to do drugs with their cash instead of making sure their medical bills are paid.
Personally, I am glad with the quick turn around in porn.After a couple shoots, most are not heard from again and tons of money continues to bemade off of them.
have you come across any "whores who choose to do drugs with their cash" that have their medical bills paid and/or have health insurance?
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But back to the original post,as long as whores like Mitchell continue to act is if they are looking out for porn whores, mindless numb fucks like Brazzle will continue to do stupid shit like suck dick for $75.
agreed...
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#89830 - 03/16/05 07:06 PM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 10/19/04
Posts: 134
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veronica jett is RIGHT, none of ur damn business how anyone spends there money or makes the money is it, or become a damn financial advisor as we say. Hell sucking cock for 5 min for $100 is faster then sucking cock and making the movie for an hour for 300. so say what you want. hell seems you need a better job if all u do is wonder where our money goes. Hell i have never did drugs and not even drink alcholo so my money is stacking hire then yours.
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#89831 - 03/17/05 12:27 AM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Registered: 12/11/04
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What the fuck ever Hoe Brazzle. Isnt it about time for you to pick anew soldier to be engaged to and then spontaneously die in the war? What kills me is you thought everyone was stupid enough tobelievethat crock of shit. You Tennessee Inbred Jedsare something else.
Shame that one of your John's didnt slit your throat. Then we could avoid all of the lies and bullshit baggage that you bring with you. Sadly enough, the girls that you try to get work for will learn soon enough that there are aton of directors that want NOTHING to do with any talent that works for/with you Nicole.
Nicole Brazzle, my nomination for the Lara Roxx of 2005. Bank on it.
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#89833 - 03/17/05 11:59 AM
Re: Sharon Mitchell on 20/20
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Registered: 04/21/04
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I'm starting to get the impression that he doesn't like her?
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#89834 - 03/17/05 06:25 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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