jrv-i almost jumped in, if only in defense of reason, but i figured my support would carry some stigma. i love realizing supposedly mature and thoughtful open discussions are totally stillborn in potential for anyone to change their thoughts. tweak a few things and you could maybe get a recruit for an exploding-vest in the west bank the self-righteousness is so thick in that thread.
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"She has no waist, no arse...an interesting face...but all we are really worshipping is two bags of silicone"
Martin Amis "honoring" katie price with a character bearing some of her traits