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#88260 - 02/28/05 04:48 PM Another Religious Fuckhead, BTK Serial Killer
Jamie L. Brian Offline
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Registered: 12/02/04
Posts: 483
Funny, if they found so much as a porno mag at this guy's pad, the moralist assholes would be screaming 'Porn made him do it, it created a monster.'

Turns out this fucker is just another church-going, religious fuckhead, and strangely nobody is saying shit. Nobody's screaming, "Let's do away with religion, it creates monsters." I love how moralists can blame one, without ever blaming the other.

Well, anyways, it's good to see they got this piece of shit. I hope he gets gang-fucked every fucking night until the day he dies, hopefully, of some horrible disease.




http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6988048/



MSNBC News Services
Updated: 2:53 p.m. ET Feb. 28, 2005WICHITA, Kan. - The man arrested on suspicion of being the BTK serial killer is expected to appear in court via video on Tuesday so prosecutors can file criminal charges against him and the judge can review bail.

Dennis Rader, 59, was scheduled to appear in court so prosecutors could recite yet-to-be-filed criminal charges against him and the judge could review bail. It was unclear whether Rader had a lawyer.

Rader, a churchgoing family man and Cub Scout leader, was being held in lieu of $10 million bail in the deaths of 10 people between 1974 and 1991. Police had long linked the BTK killer to eight murders but added two more on Saturday after Rader’s arrest and said their investigation was continuing.

BTK is the killer’s self-coined nickname that stands for “Bind, Torture, Kill.”

A source close to the investigation told the Associated Press on Sunday that Rader had confessed to at least six slayings.

‘The guy is telling us about the murders’
“The guy is telling us about the murders,” the source said on condition of anonymity.

Investigators also are looking into whether he was responsible for another three killings — including at least one that occurred after the restoration of the Kansas’ death penalty in 1994, the source said.

Now, the source said, police are looking whether Rader was responsible for the deaths of two Wichita State University students, as well as a woman who lived down the street from another known victim of BTK, the killer’s self-coined nickname that stands for “Bind, Torture, Kill.” It was unclear when the three slayings occurred, but the source said one of them took place while Kansas’ death penalty was in effect.

Prosecutors had said initially they could not pursue the death penalty against Rader because the 10 murders linked to BTK occurred when Kansas did not have the death penalty.

The AP report and other media reports drew a stern rebuke Monday from Wichita Police Chief Norman Williams.

‘Assumptions and speculations’
“These types of assumptions and speculations have and will continue to complicate an already complex investigation,” Williams said.

Williams said he would ask prosecutors if they can take legal action against members of the media who report “speculation, inaccurate and irresponsible information.” But he did not go into specifics and refused to take any questions.

District Attorney Nola Foulston, asked Sunday about the source's comment that Rader had confessed, said, “Your information is patently false.”

Police spokeswoman Janet Johnson also declined to comment specifically on the accuracy of the source’s statements.

Though they have remained tight-lipped about specifics of the case, authorities have expressed confidence that Rader’s arrest will bring to an end 30 years of fear about the BTK strangler.

Parts of the profile released earlier by police seemed to match up with Rader. Investigators said they believed the killer was familiar with a professor at Wichita State University. Rader graduated from the university in 1979.

In the 1970s, Rader worked at a nearby Coleman camping gear plant where two of his alleged victims were employed.

But as they pored over news of a suspect’s capture, many residents here were left with an unsettling feeling — that he had been hidden among them all along.

Active in community
Charlie Otero, whose parents and two siblings were BTK’s first victims in 1974, said Sunday that he was “waiting with anticipation” to learn more about the DNA evidence that has been credited with helping crack the case.

Otero believes his family was targeted, although the rest of BTK’s victims were likely chosen at random. He isn’t sure why the family was targeted but said it’s interesting that Rader and his father served in the Air Force at the same time in the 1960s. “I’m sure this will all come out during the trial,” he said.

The BTK killer re-emerged over the last year, taunting police with letters and packages sent to media outlets.

Rader, an active member of a Lutheran church, was anything but a recluse.

His job as a city code enforcement supervisor required daily contact with the public, and he even appeared on television in 2001 in his tan city uniform for a story on vicious dogs running loose in Park City.

'By-the-books' employee
Before becoming a municipal employee, Rader worked for a home-security company, where he held several positions that allowed him access to customers’ homes, including a role as installation manager. He worked for ADT Security Systems from 1974 to 1989 — the same time as a majority of the BTK killings.

Mike Tavares, who worked with Rader at ADT, described him as a “by-the-books” employee who would often draw diagrams of houses and personally make sure technicians installed systems correctly.

While Rader was known as a blunt person and rubbed some people the wrong way, it never struck co-workers as anything other than businesslike.

“I’ve spoken to some co-workers who were around then, and everybody is very numb,” said Tavares, who left the company in 2001.

'Disbelief, absolute disbelief'
At his church and around town, many expressed shock that Rader was accused of being the BTK killer.

“Disbelief, absolute disbelief,” said a tearful Carole Nelson, a member of Christ Lutheran Church, where Rader was an usher and the president of the church council. “I never would have guessed in a million years.”

The church’s pastor, Michael Clark, said Rader’s wife, Paula, was in a state of shock when he visited the family, who remained in seclusion Sunday.

“Her demeanor and voice indicated she was suffering,” Clark said.

Just days before his arrest, Rader brought spaghetti sauce and salad to a church supper, even though he was unable to attend himself, church member Paul Carlstedt said.

“The guy that walked in here was not the face of evil,” said Bob Smyser, an usher at the church.

Still, a sense of relief was palpable around Wichita after the apparent capture of the killer who had sent taunting letters to the media since the 1970s.

“Hallelujah, praise the Lord,” Gaylene Brown said over breakfast Sunday at Don’s Restaurant, where Rader’s face was a common sight.

The Associated Press contributed to this report

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#88261 - 03/01/05 12:29 AM Re: Another Religious Fuckhead, BTK Serial Killer
Too Damned Ugly Offline
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Registered: 12/10/04
Posts: 261
I agree we should register all Christians and put them on the same site with child molesters. They are all about the same in my book.


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#88262 - 03/01/05 01:40 AM Re: Another Religious Fuckhead, BTK Serial Killer
Jamie L. Brian Offline
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Registered: 12/02/04
Posts: 483
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I agree we should register all Christians and put them on the same site with child molesters. They are all about the same in my book.







Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I'm not talking about grouping people together. I'm just talking about the moralists that like to play the blame game.

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#88263 - 03/01/05 07:54 AM Re: Another Religious Fuckhead, BTK Serial Killer
Smartt Offline
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Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 5869
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Nah, just the practicioner Christians are pedophiles.


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#88264 - 03/01/05 08:28 AM Re: Another Religious Fuckhead, BTK Serial Killer
Cleetus VanDamme Offline
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Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 7888
Loc: Carpathian Mountains
What does being christian have to do with this killer? Did he he say that god told him to or what? Just because he belongs to a certain subset of society does show adversely on that group as a whole and as far as his church people defending him -that happens all the time when they catch killers- the people in the neighborhood say he was a kind and quiet man, never bothered anybody or in some neighborhoods they refuse to believe he did anything- instead maybe he was framed by the Man. So to besmirch a whole religion based upon the actions of one lunatic who should be given the death penalty makes little sense to me.
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#88265 - 03/01/05 08:33 AM Re: Another Religious Fuckhead, BTK Serial Killer
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#88266 - 03/01/05 08:39 AM Re: Another Religious Fuckhead, BTK Serial Killer
Evil Klown Offline
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Registered: 02/04/05
Posts: 1024
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Nah, just the practicioner Christians are pedophiles.




Hey, does your scrotum get all tight when you hear Janet Reno's name mentioned

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#88267 - 03/01/05 11:16 AM Re: Another Religious Fuckhead, BTK Serial Killer
have2cit Offline
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Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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Nah, just the practicioner Christians are pedophiles.




No, thats just you brazilians.

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What does being christian have to do with this killer? Did he he say that god told him to or what? Just because he belongs to a certain subset of society does show adversely on that group as a whole and as far as his church people defending him -that happens all the time when they catch killers- the people in the neighborhood say he was a kind and quiet man, never bothered anybody or in some neighborhoods they refuse to believe he did anything- instead maybe he was framed by the Man. So to besmirch a whole religion based upon the actions of one lunatic who should be given the death penalty makes little sense to me.




I think Jamie is just trying to point out the hypocrisy of some christians who blame porn and drugs for all the worlds evil. I don't think I would even call this guy a christian he was just hiding among them.

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Hey, does your scrotum get all tight when you hear Janet Reno's name mentioned




His scrotum only gets tight when he sees street children. Also his big fat belly rumbles.

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#88268 - 03/01/05 01:18 PM Re: Another Religious Fuckhead, BTK Serial Killer
Cleetus VanDamme Offline
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Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 7888
Loc: Carpathian Mountains
Quote:

Quote:

Nah, just the practicioner Christians are pedophiles.




No, thats just you brazilians.

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What does being christian have to do with this killer? Did he he say that god told him to or what? Just because he belongs to a certain subset of society does show adversely on that group as a whole and as far as his church people defending him -that happens all the time when they catch killers- the people in the neighborhood say he was a kind and quiet man, never bothered anybody or in some neighborhoods they refuse to believe he did anything- instead maybe he was framed by the Man. So to besmirch a whole religion based upon the actions of one lunatic who should be given the death penalty makes little sense to me.




I think Jamie is just trying to point out the hypocrisy of some christians who blame porn and drugs for all the worlds evil. I don't think I would even call this guy a christian he was just hiding among them.

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Hey, does your scrotum get all tight when you hear Janet Reno's name mentioned




His scrotum only gets tight when he sees street children. Also his big fat belly rumbles.




Yeah, i kinda thought that is what Jamie meant but the following comments are what annoyed me namely smartt's anti christian sentiment. Damn communist
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#88269 - 03/01/05 03:56 PM Re: Another Religious Fuckhead, BTK Serial Killer
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Registered: 02/04/05
Posts: 1024
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Yeah, i kinda thought that is what Jamie meant but the following comments are what annoyed me namely smartt's anti christian sentiment. Damn communist




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#88270 - 03/01/05 04:26 PM Re: Another Religious Fuckhead, BTK Serial Killer
Smartt Offline
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Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 5869
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Looks like I have to come here more often just to tell you all to fuck off.


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#88271 - 03/01/05 05:53 PM Re: Another Religious Fuckhead, BTK Serial Killer
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Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 7888
Loc: Carpathian Mountains
yes
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