I don't see the point of all this bickering. Each place serves it's purpose. I'll admit that sometimes when I read stuff here I think it is a little to harsh for my tastes but thats because I choose to respect these girls for the decisions they have made in their lives. They shouldn;t be looked down upon for working so hard to give us fans the entertainment we want. They should be commended. But I will admit that sometimes some stuff I read here is funny. smelly monkey made me laugh, it's too bad he's gone now. I think maybe even he got sick of the negative vibe. But like i was saying, each place is good. People can come here and vent without fear of banning or they can go to adt if they want a civilized conversation.