Holy shit thats a lot to read. I got dizzle two posts in and fell off my chair, i have a knot in my forehead now like jean claude van damme. So ive decided to end this once and for all, im setting up the ADT v XXXPT thread and explaining my views on each. BTW im disappointed to find out adt guy isn't real, his quote gives it away, its far too deep for a guy who is serious in what he posted a more appropriate one would be 'i like to eat cookie dough'.