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#79557 - 01/15/05 08:15 AM
Give Me Your Soul
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 12/02/04
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I was up pretty late last night watching Give Me Your Soul, that Canadian documentary produced a few years back. Ya, it was a pretty shoddily made, biased piece of crap. Luke Ford came off as the coolest mother fucker in the world though, Reservoir Ford in his suit and all. I love the way it showed JD Ram, presenting the industry as uncaring and selfish.
Fuck, every year Hollywood churns out drug addicts, some of which die (see Rodney Harvey, John Belushi). Nobody is producing these kinds of documentaries about Hollywood -- presenting the actors who worked with them as uncaring and selfish. The stuff with Kimberly Jade was a wee bit creepy.
Here's some pics for anyone who hasn't seen it.
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#79583 - 01/15/05 06:54 PM
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actually this whole thing with mom is so very creepy for so many reasons)
Is it really any creepier than any other Hollywood mom pimping their daughter for TV or movies?
Maybe not, but it's just the idea that some chick is getting pounded by some dude, and knowing that her mom can hear her in the next room.
At least in Hollywood, I'm sure, it goes on behind closed doors.
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#79584 - 01/15/05 07:29 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
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Okay, here's the deal, I was not a fan of this documentary.
The director, Paul Cowan, backed up by a mostly female crew, clearly had an agenda going in - to show the industry as evil.
He had his researchers, one of which was obviously Luke Ford, draw up the absolute worst elements of the industry, and then went about designing a story around that.
1) The drug addict - OD, clearly Cowan found that he could exploit the pain of JD's family and girlfriend, and fit it perfectly into his agenda. By bringing them along to the awards, he was able to provide proof that the industry was selfish and uncaring - forget the fact that various members of the industry did try to get JD help. Yes, maybe the industry should've given the family more attention, but clearly JD was a troubled individual who was beyond help.
2) The Marc Wallice nightmare. This was the ONLY thing that Cowan could hang the industry on. Kimberly Jade made a very good point when she talked about the day she was notified of her +HIV status, and how various industry types tried to get her to keep it under wraps. "Let's keep it in the family," Sharon Mitchell supposedly told her. When it comes to matters of life and death, that whole family thing doesn't walk damn. The industry-wide condemnation of Luke Ford for getting the let out about Marc made no sense to me. He should have been applauded, but that's just my opinion.
3)The Katie June thing with her mom bothered me, but, fuck, seriously how often does that happen, really? I think Cowan lucked out by finding Katie and her mom. I'm sure this kind of stuff goes on in Hollywood, but in this documentary, it was so matter-of-fact and it just seemed so wrong. Like I said, I can't understand it, but seriously it wasn't the industry's fault that it happened. Did the industry exploit these two women, yes, of course, but it also paid them for their services. See if Walmart will pay that much... See if Walmart cares either. At the end of the documentary there was a piece about how Randy West actually bailed Katie out of jail, after she got into some trouble with the law.
4) The lonely masturbators. I think Cowan was trying to show where a life of porn watching will lead a person. How sad, how utterly pathetic. Yes, it surely is, but don't be pointing your camera and making judgements. Cowan was clearly getting what he wanted in that room on that night. Nothing like exploiting those lonely people, then seemingly placing the blame on the industry.
The whole documentary seemed to want to place all the blame on the shoulders of the dirty immoral porn industry, but every month somebody in the music industry dies of a drug overdose but nobody blames the whole of that industry for all the problems that exists within it. They blame the individual.
Am I making any sense? Probably not, but these are my feelings on the documentary.
The fact that Cowan decided to point his camera at the darkest area of the industry, trotting out Rob Black and such, the same way every other person doing a documentary about porn has done, only showed me that he is highly unoriginal. Clearly, there are some good things that happen in porn - friendships, love stories, money, hard work, intelligent kind people, etc... Nobody EVER makes a documentary about these things.
Everybody is looking for their own Bella Donna story, and I'm so tired of it.
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#79587 - 01/15/05 09:05 PM
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Anna Malle is such a great whore. I meet her in Vegas a while back and she was really 
She looks a little different now, but I still think she's a very sexy woman.
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#79588 - 01/15/05 09:31 PM
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Demon Spawn
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The naivety of Katie June made my skin crawl and I hated her mother, arrogant bag. Rob Black is antithesis of anything good, and that makes him cool in my books.
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#79589 - 01/15/05 10:02 PM
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The naivety of Katie June made my skin crawl and I hated her mother, arrogant bag. Rob Black is antithesis of anything good, and that makes him cool in my books.
Actually I thought Rob was quite generous. He kept telling Cowan to ask him more questions, which I found kinda funny.
Actually the whole sequence around the EA table was quite comical.
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#79592 - 01/16/05 06:28 AM
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Katie June was great in a couple of scenes I saw back when. She was supposed to be some kind of mad vixen in Nashville, where she beat guys up t her strip club. Canadians! They live to make docs exposing American wrongness. It's their religion. It is!
Our religion? We aren't a particularly religious nation that I know of, and if the statistics say we are, then, well, I haven't actually met these people. We, like the rest of the western world, seem to be moving away from primitive ideology such as religion. In fact, Canada is becoming much more liberal in our laws - which I'm sure angers those religious hypocrites who say they are about love and acceptance, but have no real understanding of those words.
Gay marriage is legal. Pot WILL be legal (even our Premier jokes about using it), and our obscenity laws are continuing to grow more lax. Fisting is legal, at least in Ontario.
The only true religion we have in this country is hockey.
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They are state funded. If it wasn't for comics and folksigers and documentarians and moose, Canada would not exist. OK< all that and Brandon.
As for the government funding of the arts, I totally agree with you. With the exception of maybe Atom Egoyan most of the films that get funded are dreck. It seems funding is based on how artsy-fartsy the film is going to be, and so many of the people in film school in Canada are these annoying rich kids looking for a pass through life. When they get out, they apply for funding, and strangely, usually get it. Then they produce horrible dreck that is mostly out of touch with the general public - see the CBC. Every once in awhile something original comes along like the Trailer Park Boys - produced, of course, by a bunch of guys with a video camera and a couple thousand bucks in their pocket.
As for Brandon, Peter, Vodoo, Vince and too many more to mention, yes, we produce a lot of the better male porn stars, sadly, our female talent is lacking however.
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#79596 - 01/16/05 11:08 PM
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They live to make docs exposing American wrongness. It's their religion. It is!
Our religion? We aren't a particularly religious nation that I know of, and if the statistics say we are, then, well, I haven't actually met these people.
I read that to mean that exposing American wrongness is the Canadian "religion".
Obviously that was lost on me. LOL!
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#79598 - 01/17/05 05:20 PM
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Yeah, that's what I meant.
+ 1 for all that legal marijuana and stuff.
And David Cronenberg.
Cronenberg is the shit!
Throw in Bob 'Black Christmas, Porky's' Clark and you have two of the greatest filmmakers to come out of Canada, in my opinion.
James Cameron, aside from The Terminator movies, sucks ass! I'll never forgive him for that fucking Titanic piece of shit.
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#79599 - 01/17/05 05:27 PM
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Demon Spawn
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David Cronenberg is pretty good but not great. Crash showed great creativity but he hasn't come near that with any of his other movies, though I did enjoy Spider.
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#79600 - 01/17/05 05:32 PM
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David Cronenberg is pretty good but not great. Crash showed great creativity but he hasn't come near that with any of his other movies, though I did enjoy Spider.
I thought Crash was the last 'good' movie he made.
I tend to like his earlier, more experimental, work the best. Shivers, Rabid, Videodrome etc.
Nowadays he's a got bigger budgets so, of course, his films tend to suck more.
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#79601 - 01/17/05 06:01 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Yes, Spider is definately cool. Did anyone check out eXistenZ? Amazing biological horror stuff!
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#79606 - 04/23/05 02:22 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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And if you check the national film board of Canada Web site you get to see the ultimate irony...Give me your Soul is available on VHS and DVD...and is priced $10.00 higher than any other film on the site
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