Re: the clancy games -They seem too complex for me but if you like SOCOM you just might like them. Some of my othe rfavs for the ps2 are Hot shots golf 3 ( 4 is out now haven;t played it yet)- even if you don't like golf or sports games you will probably likrethis one. Spiderman 2 is another good one with great game play as you can web sling to anywhere in NYC. Try ratchet and clank if you like shooting things in a cartoony way.n The red faction and timesplitter games are great first person shooters you might like too. I hope you like silent hill 3 I returned it because I played a demo of silent hill 4 and hated it so I figured 3 would be similar anfd returned it. As far as GTA:SA goes there is a lot of driving but it is so open ended that you can do other things until your driving skills are upgraded. That game will keep you busy for months.