axl was already lost to being axl by then-but lies was fucking amazing. nobody's put together 8 songs 15 years later or ten years prior that suceeded in being rock done correctly. nasty blues-based lead guitars and whacked out vocalists are more endangered than those silly fake chinese bears but it was the same shit that makes zepplin, keef and mick, even aerosmith make the radioheads seem disposable a year after they release something. i'm obviously talking in a popular sense-there are exceptions out there but you're not going to catch them on your way to work on fm. most rock bands aren't even doing a good job as cover bands-when kyoto goes on his killing frenzy it better be near the white stripes and the rest of the ripoff artists propped up by arista and co.