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#77861 - 01/06/05 06:37 PM Rude Awakening To Bush's Missile Defense Dreams
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On Christmas Eve 2004, the Russian Strategic Missile Force test fired an advanced SS-27 Topol-M road-mobile intercontinental ballistic Missile (ICBM). This test probably invalidated the entire premise and technology used in the National Missile Defense (NMD) system currently being developed and deployed by the Bush administration, and at the same time called into question the validity of the administration's entire approach to arms control and disarmament.

From 1988 to 1990, I served as one of the American weapons inspectors at the Votkinsk Machine Building Plant in Russia, where the SS-27 and its predecessor, the SS-25, were assembled. When I started my work in Votkinsk, the SS-25 missile was viewed by many in the US intelligence community as the primary ICBM threat facing the United States. A great deal of effort was placed on learning as much as possible about this missile and its capabilities.

Through the work of the inspectors at Votkinsk, as well as several related inspections where US experts were able to view the SS-25 missile system in its operating bases in Siberia, a great deal of data was collected that assisted the US intelligence community in refining its understanding of how the SS-25 operated. This understanding was translated into several countermissile strategies, including aerial interdiction operations and missile-defense concepts.

The abysmal performance of American counter-SCUD operations during the Gulf War in 1991 highlighted the deficiencies of the US military regarding the aerial interdiction of road-mobile missiles. Iraqi Al-Hussein mobile missiles were virtually impossible to detect and interdict, even with total American air supremacy. Despite all the effort put into counter-SCUD operations during that war, not a single Iraqi mobile missile launcher was destroyed by hostile fire, a fact I can certify not only as a participant in the counter-SCUD effort, but also as a chief inspector in Iraq, where I led the United Nations investigations into the Iraqi missile program.

The rapid collapse of the Soviet Union did not leave much time for reflection on the American counter-mobile missile launcher deficiencies. In mid-1993, the Department of Defense conducted a comprehensive review to select the strategy and force structure for the post-cold war era. With the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the threat to the US from a deliberate or accidental ballistic missile attack by former Soviet states or by China was judged highly unlikely. In Votkinsk, US inspectors observed a Soviet-era defense industry in decline. SS-25 missiles were produced at a greatly reduced rate, and the next generation missile, a joint Russian-Ukrainian design, was scrapped after a few prototypes were produced, but never launched.

After the resounding Republican victory in the midterm 1994 congressional elections, a new program for missile defense was proposed covering three distinct "threat" capabilities ranging from "unsophisticated threats" (an attack of five single-warhead missiles with simple decoys), to highly sophisticated threats (an attack of 20 single-warhead SS-25 type missiles, each with decoys or other defensive countermeasures). Funding for this program ran to some $10.8 billion from 1993 to 2000.

When President Bush came to power in 2001, there was a dramatic change in posture regarding ballistic missile defense. The administration announced it was withdrawing from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, clearing away development and operational constraints. At the same time, the administration laid out a comprehensive plan that envisioned a layered missile-defense system. After studying the SS-25 missile for years, the US military believed it finally had a solution in the form of a multitiered antiballistic missile system that focused on boost-phase intercept (firing antimissile missiles that would home in on an ICBM shortly after launch), space-based laser systems designed to knock out a missile in flight, and terminal missile intercept systems, which would destroy a missile as it reentered the earth's atmosphere.

The NMD system being fielded to counter the SS-25, and any similar or less sophisticated threats that may emerge from China, Iran, North Korea, and elsewhere, will probably have cumulative costs between $800 billion and $1.2 trillion by the time it reaches completion in 2015.

However, the Bush administration's dream of a viable NMD has been rendered fantasy by the Russian test of the SS-27 Topol-M. According to the Russians, the Topol-M has high-speed solid-fuel boosters that rapidly lift the missile into the atmosphere, making boost-phase interception impossible unless one is located practically next door to the launcher. The SS-27 has been hardened against laser weapons and has a highly maneuverable post-boost vehicle that can defeat any intercept capability as it dispenses up to three warheads and four sophisticated decoys.

To counter the SS-27 threat, the US will need to start from scratch. And even if a viable defense could be mustered, by that time the Russians may have fielded an even more sophisticated missile, remaining one step ahead of any US countermeasures. The US cannot afford to spend billions of dollars on a missile-defense system that will never achieve the level of defense envisioned. The Bush administration's embrace of technology, and rejection of diplomacy, when it comes to arms control has failed.

If America continues down the current path of trying to field a viable missile-defense system, significant cuts will need to be made in other areas of the defense budget, or funds reallocated from other nonmilitary spending programs. With America already engaged in a costly war in Iraq, and with the possibility of additional conflict with Iran, Syria, or North Korea looming on the horizon, funding a missile-defense system that not only does not work as designed, but even if it did, would not be capable of defending America from threats such as the Topol-M missile, makes no sense.

The Bush administration would do well to reconsider its commitment to a national missile-defense system, and instead reengage in the kind of treaty-based diplomacy that in the past produced arms control results that were both real and lasting. This would not only save billions, it would make America, and the world, a safer place.

-- Scott Ritter is a former intelligence officer and weapons inspector in the Soviet Union (1988-1990) and Iraq (1991-1998). He is author of 'Frontier Justice: Weapons of Mass Destruction and the Bushwhacking of America.'


http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0104/p09s02-coop.html

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#77862 - 01/06/05 06:46 PM Re: Rude Awakening To Bush's Missile Defense Dream
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#77863 - 01/06/05 08:12 PM Re: Rude Awakening To Bush's Missile Defense Dream
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The Bush administration would do well to reconsider its commitment to a national missile-defense system, and instead reengage in the kind of treaty-based diplomacy that in the past produced arms control results that were both real and lasting. This would not only save billions, it would make America, and the world, a safer place.



Nope. He's wrong. The current threat is groups, smaller than North Korea, with only a couple of missiles. Think Iran or or the Chechans once the Russian sell them some nuclear missiles. That's what the system is aimed at. Nobody expects to take on anyone like Russia or China who can simply saturate the defense.

Remember that Ritter has a political ax to grind, right or wrong. Also, missile tactics and strategies aren't his field.

He seems to think of boost-phase intercept as being within a few thousand feet of the launcher which is wrong - interception happens much higher if for no other reason than to let the interceptor maneuver outside of a thick atmosphere: you don't want aerodynamic forces to tear apart the interceptor during a turn.

He doesn't consider another possibility: the current contractors may simply be uncompetitive. Look at NASA, which is now the third, perhaps fourth in the space technology race. It may be time to open up the project to competition and get rid of the deadwood.

The defense scheme is "easily" doable if you're willing to use a nuclear-tipped interceptor. The challenge will be coming up with a non-nuclear method, and that may require invention - steerable X-ray lasers, targeting systems based on phase-conjugate mirrors, etc. Or it may just be a bunch of BB balls exploded into a debris cloud in front of the missile. Right now they're just trying to come up a reliable steerable vehicle.
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#77864 - 01/06/05 08:27 PM Re: Rude Awakening To Bush's Missile Defense Dream
ChickenMaster Offline
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Give me a break JRV, no small country at this point could have the ICBM technology to get over the ocean. The warhead itself if you get the components is easy enough to make but the Ballistic Missile technology is almost impossible to utilize without a large budget and is impossible to hide.

I could see them hitting some neighbors though.

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#77865 - 01/06/05 09:35 PM Re: Rude Awakening To Bush's Missile Defense Dream
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Give me a break JRV, no small country at this point could have the ICBM technology to get over the ocean.



No small country could make it. Buying a launcher from some Russian base commander is something else.
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#77866 - 01/06/05 09:40 PM Re: Rude Awakening To Bush's Missile Defense Dream
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No small country could make it. Buying a launcher from some Russian base commander is something else.




I could have seen that happening even 5 years ago, but no more. They are really crazy about exterminating terrorists now. Most of the boys in the Russian army have some pretty deep prejudices. Those Chechnyans haven't done much to improve there public image.

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